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Friday, November 9, 2018 12:46 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, November 9, 2018 3:16 PM
THG
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by second: half of Republicans deny that global warming is even taking place, and of the rest, almost half reject any human responsibility. Words fail. And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?Don't ever comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember Obama and his EPA setting rules on CO2. Don't comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember what the GOP did next or you cannot remember Trump pulling the USA out of all agreements to reduce CO2.
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by second: half of Republicans deny that global warming is even taking place, and of the rest, almost half reject any human responsibility. Words fail. And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Quote:Originally posted by second: half of Republicans deny that global warming is even taking place, and of the rest, almost half reject any human responsibility. Words fail.
Friday, November 9, 2018 4:03 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Don't ever comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember Obama and his EPA setting rules on CO2. Don't comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember what the GOP did next or you cannot remember Trump pulling the USA out of all agreements to reduce CO2.
Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:31 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by SECOND: Don't ever comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember Obama and his EPA setting rules on CO2. Don't comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember what the GOP did next or you cannot remember Trump pulling the USA out of all agreements to reduce CO2. You know what those CO2 'rules' are, SECOND? You know what those 'agreements' are, SECOND? Toilet paper. But less useful. Cosmetic words meant to cover over inaction. When OBAMA AND THE DEMOCRATS had control of the White House and Congress, and they could pass LAWS that came with the power of enforcement, what did they do about global warming? Tell me, SECOND. What did they do? And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:01 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by THG: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Quote:Originally posted by second: half of Republicans deny that global warming is even taking place, and of the rest, almost half reject any human responsibility. Words fail. And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?Don't ever comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember Obama and his EPA setting rules on CO2. Don't comment again, 1kiki, if you cannot remember what the GOP did next or you cannot remember Trump pulling the USA out of all agreements to reduce CO2. Kick her ass SECOND. You can't find bigger hypocrites that kiki jack jsf and sig. Nicely done... T
Sunday, November 11, 2018 8:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I want you to back up this statement. You can start by quoting one single instance where I've said or done anything that was hypocritical. ONE. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:00 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I want you to back up this statement. You can start by quoting one single instance where I've said or done anything that was hypocritical. ONE. Do Right, Be Right. :)Like all Republicans I know, you are hypersensitive about your honor. That's why you got all puffed up, then responded with your "ONE" when you got called a "hypocrite". You've said you were an independent. You're not. You are exactly like every Republican I know. They claim they are Independent, making up their own mind, because they have some little quibbles with certain minor details of the Republican Party platform or some detail of Trump's tweets. Details that even the GOP and Trump aren't really going to make reality, details they talk about, but are not sincere about. It's all empty talk. Nothing solid that you can depend upon. It's as if you so-called Independents are human-shaped gas bags that Trump inflates with his hot-air rhetoric. As soon as he stops blowing hard, you collapse back into a sad empty sack of air. You've got no backbone, no skeleton, no guts, no higher goals. Please get some, for your own good, and stop being an "Independent". Pick a side, act like it means something. To quote Book's dying words to Mal: "I don't care what you believe! Just... believe it. Whatever you have to..." Do you remember what happened for the rest of the movie? Mal finally stopped being blown around like a sailboat without a rudder.
Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:03 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I want you to back up this statement. You can start by quoting one single instance where I've said or done anything that was hypocritical. ONE. Do Right, Be Right. :)Like all Republicans I know, you are hypersensitive about your honor. That's why you got all puffed up, then responded with your "ONE" when you got called a "hypocrite". You've said you were an independent. You're not. You are exactly like every Republican I know. They claim they are Independent, making up their own mind, because they have some little quibbles with certain minor details of the Republican Party platform or some detail of Trump's tweets. Details that even the GOP and Trump aren't really going to make reality, details they talk about, but are not sincere about. It's all empty talk. Nothing solid that you can depend upon. It's as if you so-called Independents are human-shaped gas bags that Trump inflates with his hot-air rhetoric. As soon as he stops blowing hard, you collapse back into a sad empty sack of air. You've got no backbone, no skeleton, no guts, no higher goals. Please get some, for your own good, and stop being an "Independent". Pick a side, act like it means something. To quote Book's dying words to Mal: "I don't care what you believe! Just... believe it. Whatever you have to..." Do you remember what happened for the rest of the movie? Mal finally stopped being blown around like a sailboat without a rudder. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, November 11, 2018 9:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Why should I pick a side? I'm certainly not going to pick the Democrats. They actively stand against my ideals at almost every turn... at least the ones leading that shit-show of a party right now. Fuck you, Second.
Monday, November 12, 2018 8:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Why should I pick a side? I'm certainly not going to pick the Democrats. They actively stand against my ideals at almost every turn... at least the ones leading that shit-show of a party right now. Fuck you, Second.Look, genius 6ixStringJack, there are only two sides. There are no third parties to come to the rescue because the way the Constitution was written has made it inevitable that there will only be two major parties. Pick a side or be as irrelevant as a child who can't vote or an adult who votes for the Green Party.
Monday, November 12, 2018 8:39 AM
Monday, November 12, 2018 11:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Freedom... I Won't. Your side sucks. The other side sucks slightly less. 10 years ago, it was the other way around.
Monday, November 12, 2018 5:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Freedom... I Won't. Your side sucks. The other side sucks slightly less. 10 years ago, it was the other way around.If I were you, 6ix, knowing the results of your decisions over the last 10 years? I would not trust my judgment about decisions I am making today and where those decisions will leave me in 10 or 20 years.
Tuesday, November 13, 2018 5:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol. And you think I'm going to waste time reading the next 20 paragraphs you wrote? Go fuck yourself. I'm doing fine.
Tuesday, November 13, 2018 8:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol. And you think I'm going to waste time reading the next 20 paragraphs you wrote? Go fuck yourself. I'm doing fine.6ix, you and Trump voters in general are not doing fine. In particular, you have written a million words about yourself and "fine" does not describe what you, or Trump, or his voters, are doing. That's what you and Trump have in common, you won't stop talking about yourself long enough to fix the mess you made:
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 6:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: That's literally what I'm doing, ever since I stopped drinking nearly 2 years ago. Everything I've done for myself is hard work and all on my own. Your simple answer for solving all of life's problems is voting Democrat, and viewing everybody who doesn't as the bad guy. You're a clown with too much money who passes off opinion pieces from hack fraud blogs that plagiarize left leaning media news outlets. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 8:13 AM
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 9:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol. Yup. I'm a racist. We weren't even talking about racism, dummy. Are you just robotically going through a list of pre-programmed arguments that your masters give you or something? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol. Yup. I'm a racist. We weren't even talking about racism, dummy. Are you just robotically going through a list of pre-programmed arguments that your masters give you or something? Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, please declare that you, the Trump voter, and Trump are not racist. Trump has said he isn't time and again and that was so very believable each time.
Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Once again. Racism is still off topic. Are you stuck in a loop now, robot? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Quote:Now imagine cutting t; the figure shows a complete elimination of corporate taxes, but the logic is the same for simply reducing the rate. This should lead to inflows of capital from abroad, increasing the capital stock, which both raises GDP and reduces the rate of return. In the end the after-tax return on capital should be back where it started, with all of the tax cut passed through to wages instead. The crucial point, however, is that for this to happen you have to have a large increase in the physical stock of capital - it’s not an immaculate financial transaction. This in turn means that those inflows of capital have to enable a massive wave of real investment in plant and equipment. That doesn’t necessarily mean directly importing machinery; it could mean importing consumer goods or exporting less stuff of our own, either way freeing up resources for producing capital goods here at home. But the logic of the pro-tax cut case depends on the cut facilitating a period of large trade deficits. (I don’t think anyone told Trump about this.)
Quote:On its face, a corporate tax cut looks like a big giveaway to stockholders. Proponents of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act claimed that this was misleading, because large capital inflows would ensure that the cut went to workers instead. But there’s no sign of those big inflows, so what looks like a big giveaway to stockholders is, in fact, a big giveaway to stockholders. And about 35 percent of that giveaway is to foreigners, so the tax cut makes America as a whole poorer.
Quote: A tax cut for corporations looks, on its face, like a big giveaway to stockholders, mainly bypassing ordinary families: of stocks held by Americans, 84 percent are held by the wealthiest 10 percent; 35 percent of U.S. stocks are held by foreigners.
Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:24 AM
Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wow. That's deep man. lol Might need the help of the community to help decipher your bullshit here. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Wow. That's deep man. lol Might need the help of the community to help decipher your bullshit here. Do Right, Be Right. :)You didn't get to this part, did you? Quote: A tax cut for corporations looks, on its face, like a big giveaway to stockholders, mainly bypassing ordinary families: of stocks held by Americans, 84 percent are held by the wealthiest 10 percent; 35 percent of U.S. stocks are held by foreigners.6ix, the Trump tax cut didn't make a difference for you. Could you decipher that? Is it too deep for you? The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, November 15, 2018 7:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not true. I don't have to pay $695 for not having health insurance next year, or about 5% of my income.
Thursday, November 15, 2018 8:15 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not true. I don't have to pay $695 for not having health insurance next year, or about 5% of my income.You are betting your life by not having health insurance. Does it need more explanation that if you lose that bet you are dead? The best of luck with your gamble. I wish you good health. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, November 15, 2018 8:18 AM
Thursday, November 15, 2018 9:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sure. Everybody knows insurance is cheap. Even more cheap after the ACA was enacted. I'm just gambling. lol. I make too much money. It would cost me 2 to 3 times my property insurance costs to buy health insurance, since my work doesn't offer it. :) You can probably see the disconnect when you talk to pretty much anybody, huh rich guy?
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Besides. They'll take me in an emergency. They have too. Joke is on them if they think I'm paying a dime after the fact. That's my advice to anybody. Don't ever pay your medical bills.
Thursday, November 15, 2018 1:22 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote:84 percent are held by the wealthiest 10 percent; 35 percent of U.S. stocks are held by foreigners.
Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Sure. Everybody knows insurance is cheap. Even more cheap after the ACA was enacted. I'm just gambling. lol. I make too much money. It would cost me 2 to 3 times my property insurance costs to buy health insurance, since my work doesn't offer it. :) You can probably see the disconnect when you talk to pretty much anybody, huh rich guy?I know people who have not paid their property taxes in ten years and Harris County has not foreclosed upon them. I know people who did not pay for health insurance and they are dead. Dead is worse than being foreclosed on, in my opinion, but if you think death is not that big a deal while on the other hand being foreclosed on is the End of the World, well, go ahead and not buy health insurance. It’s your decision. At least you still have your enormous pride in your home, 6ixStringJack, when you are dead. Are you comforted by that thought? Do you have a Last Will & Testament to give your house to your favorite relative? www.lawdepot.com/contracts/last-will-and-testament-usa/?loc=US Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Besides. They'll take me in an emergency. They have too. Joke is on them if they think I'm paying a dime after the fact. That's my advice to anybody. Don't ever pay your medical bills. From Trump voters I have heard that delusion about hospitals and emergencies before. But I also heard real stories from people about their fathers without insurance being sent away without treatment then dying in the hospital parking lot. But that is Texas. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, November 15, 2018 2:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:84 percent are held by the wealthiest 10 percent; 35 percent of U.S. stocks are held by foreigners. That's, like, 119%. Definitely needs deciphering!
Thursday, November 15, 2018 8:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:84 percent are held by the wealthiest 10 percent; 35 percent of U.S. stocks are held by foreigners. That's, like, 119%. Definitely needs deciphering! Really, Signym? 35% of all stock is owned by foreigners and they get 35% of Trump's tax cut. That's easy to understand. The stock that is owned by Americans, 84% of it is owned by wealthy Americans. If it had been expressed as 84%*(100%-35%)=.84*.65= 54.6% you would have missed the idea that wealthy Americans own far, far more stock than middle-class and poor Americans. Wealthy Americans get far, far more of Trump's tax cut. The whole point of the article is to get you engaged with how the economy actually works and to knockdown Trump's dumbed-down, and false, version for GOP voters. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Friday, November 16, 2018 8:06 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not a big surprise here. I've been arguing this very point with JSF for a long time now. I'm only arguing over the peanuts with you because you get off on confrontation and your ever-present condescending tone. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, November 16, 2018 8:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Not a big surprise here. I've been arguing this very point with JSF for a long time now. I'm only arguing over the peanuts with you because you get off on confrontation and your ever-present condescending tone. Do Right, Be Right. :)6ix, you are so satisfied with your self and your progress that it makes me want to kick you until you wake up and look around at what you did this week and be awake enough to maybe stop doing it next week.
Friday, November 16, 2018 9:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Meaning what, exactly? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Friday, November 16, 2018 10:42 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, you are so satisfied with your self and your progress that it makes me want to kick you until you wake up and look around at what you did this week and be awake enough to maybe stop doing it next week.
Friday, November 16, 2018 12:04 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: That's his charm, isn't it? I'm sure you remember Frem trying something similar. For frellin' years. I see no change, no capacity or desire to listen or learn from others.
Friday, November 16, 2018 12:13 PM
Friday, November 16, 2018 12:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, you are so satisfied with your self and your progress that it makes me want to kick you until you wake up and look around at what you did this week and be awake enough to maybe stop doing it next week. That's his charm, isn't it? I'm sure you remember Frem trying something similar. For frellin' years. I see no change, no capacity or desire to listen or learn from others.
Friday, November 16, 2018 7:17 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by second: 6ix, you are so satisfied with your self and your progress that it makes me want to kick you until you wake up and look around at what you did this week and be awake enough to maybe stop doing it next week. That's his charm, isn't it? I'm sure you remember Frem trying something similar. For frellin' years. I see no change, no capacity or desire to listen or learn from others. Just what is it that I'm supposed to learn from Second here? He's not answering the question. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:18 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Just what is it that I'm supposed to learn from Second here? He's not answering the question. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Saturday, November 17, 2018 7:26 AM
Saturday, November 17, 2018 10:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Just what is it that I'm supposed to learn from Second here? He's not answering the question. Do Right, Be Right. :)What are you suppose to learn? That your judgment is no damn good. Good luck with the rest of your life, and that applies to the 42% of Americans who still approve of Trump, because you people are going to need luck if you can't understand how Trump is screwing you. You will be so very lucky if you don't get screwed by a hundred other American con-men in the same way Trump is cheating you. "There's a sucker/Trump-voter born every minute" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There%27s_a_sucker_born_every_minute Trump is not America’s first showman turned politician. One Trump role model, the 19th-century entrepreneurial egotist P.T. Barnum, parlayed his fame as a bigmouth impresario into actual political power, serving two terms in the Connecticut legislature and one term as the mayor of Bridgeport. Having labeled himself “a bit of a P.T. Barnum, I make stars out of everyone,” Trump should learn from his self-promoting predecessor. For all his shenanigans as the ultimate flimflam man, Phineas T. Barnum was one classy, downright idealistic, politician. More at "P.T. Barnum Makes Trump Look Like a Clown" www.thedailybeast.com/pt-barnum-makes-trump-look-like-a-clown The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, November 17, 2018 1:35 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Good luck with the rest of your life, and that applies to the 42% of Americans who still approve of Trump, because you people are going to need luck if you can't understand how Trump is screwing you.
Saturday, November 17, 2018 2:42 PM
Saturday, November 17, 2018 4:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: SECOND I want the democrats to be better. I want them to tell me their plan to improve not just my life, but the lives of all the people in the country who work for a living. I want them to explain how they'll move the Doomsday Clock back from 2 minutes till midnight. I want them to propose laws that demonstrate they'll buck tptb to stop global warming.
Sunday, November 18, 2018 8:54 AM
Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:54 PM
Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: lol
Sunday, November 18, 2018 2:59 PM
Quote:I remember you were expecting great things from voting for Trump.
Sunday, November 18, 2018 6:24 PM
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