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Sunday, July 22, 2018 8:05 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Correction. I'm not owned by anybody. Before I got the job I'm working now, I went 2 1/2 years without working. Granted it was a total waste of time and I drank it all away, but the point is that I didn't work all that time, I didn't incur any debt and I still have a credit rating of 822. I love my current job. It pays the bills, it's given me a body I haven't had since my early 20's, I've saved nearly $5,000 since I started, and they know that I won't work more than 3 days a week at my current pay, so don't even bother asking me. They even give the two 3 day blocks all together, so I work 6 then have 8 off. I'm one of the most free mother fuckers in this country. I don't blame people like you for being afraid of people like me. Yanno... those who don't "need" to surround themselves with a bunch of new shit they don't need and can't afford. The people who aren't wage slaves and are forced to work whatever menial job they can just to pay off their debtors. I can live so far under the radar with almost zero income and a literal TON of free time. You got the wrong Prole, son. Save your elitist bragging for somebody who cares. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 22, 2018 8:08 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Correction. I'm not owned by anybody. Before I got the job I'm working now, I went 2 1/2 years without working. Granted it was a total waste of time and I drank it all away, but the point is that I didn't work all that time, I didn't incur any debt and I still have a credit rating of 822. I love my current job. It pays the bills, it's given me a body I haven't had since my early 20's, I've saved nearly $5,000 since I started, and they know that I won't work more than 3 days a week at my current pay, so don't even bother asking me. They even give the two 3 day blocks all together, so I work 6 then have 8 off. I'm one of the most free mother fuckers in this country. I don't blame people like you for being afraid of people like me. Yanno... those who don't "need" to surround themselves with a bunch of new shit they don't need and can't afford. The people who aren't wage slaves and are forced to work whatever menial job they can just to pay off their debtors. I can live so far under the radar with almost zero income and a literal TON of free time. You got the wrong Prole, son. Save your elitist bragging for somebody who cares. Do Right, Be Right. :)If you think I will hire you with your bundle of Trump neurosis, the answer is "Hell, No!" Trump voting employees are trouble and Texas employers can discriminate based on political beliefs.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 8:17 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: LOL... I wasn't aware this was a job interview. What makes you think I'd ever even consider working for a dildo like you anyhow? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 22, 2018 8:42 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: LOL... I wasn't aware this was a job interview. What makes you think I'd ever even consider working for a dildo like you anyhow? Do Right, Be Right. :)Apparently you felt yourself too superior to too many employers too often and look where you are now. Oh, it must be Obama's fault. It can't be your fault. What America needs is Trump to make it all better for lazy, stupid, dishonest, racist, alcoholic whites with money, marital, child-raising and anger-control problems.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm loving where I'm at now, brother. How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things? Yup. It's been a while.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm loving where I'm at now, brother. How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things? Yup. It's been a while.You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time.
Sunday, July 22, 2018 9:56 AM
REAVERFAN
Sunday, July 22, 2018 10:01 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm loving where I'm at now, brother. How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things? Yup. It's been a while.You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time. I think that your problem is that all you value is money. How worthless of a human being would you be without all of yours? That's a question you should probably be asking yourself, if you haven't been already. I would advise the temptation to avoid being brutally honest with yourself while making that evaluation. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Sunday, July 22, 2018 11:07 AM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Monday, July 23, 2018 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Oh, I just wanted to salt this thread with that nice quote of your, SECOND. Yanno, the one where you like it when Americans argue so that you can do as you please. (IN RED, BELOW) That way, every time you start stirring the pot, maybe people will remember WHY you're doing it. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:20 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I'm loving where I'm at now, brother. How long has it been since you've heard me bitching about things? Yup. It's been a while.You really have surrendered to your fate, 6ixStringJack. And not in a good way, such as explained in "Your Money or Your Life", where they recommend not striving for what is not worth the effort or time. I think that your problem is that all you value is money. How worthless of a human being would you be without all of yours? That's a question you should probably be asking yourself, if you haven't been already. I would advise the temptation to avoid being brutally honest with yourself while making that evaluation. Do Right, Be Right. :)As far as most people know, I don't have any money. I'm living on a pension, they think. I give the appearance of an old guy that is kind of generous. Somebody dumped a dead pitbull at the cemetery? I will pick it up. I do the stinking jobs, not hire them done. I don't want to end up like Oprah or Bill Gates, living in a multitude of big houses so that they can isolate themselves from all the greedy Americans who want a share. I live in a dinky little house in a middle class neighborhood a very short distance from the poor in Baytown. I already found out what happens when I take on other people's problems, people who create their own problems faster than even Jeff Bezos could solve them. Bezos is smart enough to put his excess money into rockets and fire it into outer space. That is less trouble.
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:25 AM
CAPTAINCRUNCH
... stay crunchy...
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it.
Monday, July 23, 2018 8:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it. Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you...
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it. Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you... What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job. Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now? Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way? Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 6:51 AM
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 7:29 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it. Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you... What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job. Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now? Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way? Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right. Do Right, Be Right. :)From long experience, I noticed that the Americans who are failing in life think that feeling bad and saying sorry is enough. It is not. That is why they are failing. They need to do more. Fix what they broke. Set right what they did wrong. Make a different decision. Saying empty words that they can take back and feeling depressed will count for nothing in the real world. That is especially true if you keep on doing what caused the trouble in the first place. You have got to do something different and bigger. There is a three way choice coming: Vote GOP, Don't Vote, Vote Democrat. The first two choices are as worthless as saying "Sorry". I am sure millions of Americans will fuck up this decision and then they will wonder until they die why things never get better for themselves. Because they voted once, it must be the government's fault! No. It is the voters' fault, all the thousands of little mistakes and bad decisions and habitual laziness during the years they waited for the next election, where hope is in their little heart that this election fixes everything instantaneously. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:00 AM
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 9:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: All I'm saying is that there is a lot more to life than money. It took me a long time to learn that lesson. I think it's one that most people actually never learn because somewhere along the way they enslave themselves to it. Riiiight like learning how to judge what a piece of sh*t your president is and why that's important to more than just you... What good would that do me? Or anybody else for that matter? The last 3 at least were all pieces of shit. I'm fairly confident at this point in my life that it's an unwritten prerequisite for the job. Sure. Trump's a piece of shit. You happy now? Did me admitting that to you change your life in any meaningful way? Hey. Maybe it put a smile on your face. Glad I could start your day off right.
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 10:39 AM
JO753
rezident owtsidr
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans. I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect. Time for a change? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 12:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect. Time for a change? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 1:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect. Time for a change? Do Right, Be Right. :)If you think Democrats can talk Republicans into changing their vote, you don’t know these Republicans...
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 1:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Bottom line: at most, there’s been a slight decline in the number of self-IDed Republicans over the past couple of years. But for practical purposes, it’s about zero. All those Republicans who say they love Donald Trump are the same ones who loved Mitt Romney and John McCain and George Bush. They’re just Republicans. I would think that the Bottom Line would be that the current tactics by Democrats are having absolutely zero effect. Time for a change? Do Right, Be Right. :)Yes! It is time for a change. It is possible to win the presidency with 23 percent of the popular vote. www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote The same is true of Senators. Wyoming (with a tiny population) has just as many Senators (both Republicans) as California. Republicans can get a super-majority in the Senate by winning those crap-hole states that have only 25% of the population. It is 154 years past time to change the U.S. constitution and fix this. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, July 24, 2018 8:49 PM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 5:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by reaverfan: The problem is collective narcissism, which is a thing. Blumpybots don't think for themselves and never have. Like Blumpy, they think of politics as a competition. If they win, they win. Yay, team! They're oblivious to what they've won, or how it affects them. When it goes to shit, it's the other team's fault. Narcissists don't have the ability to take personal responsibility or admit when they're wrong. All you have to do is listen to reichwing radio, or a Faux talking head and it's as clear as day.
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 8:24 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I agree. I just don't see how you can say anything different about the other side either. If you're going to go the path of Wishy and start handing out psychological disorders to everyone, I think Narcissism is probably the most prominant one that afflicts Americans today. Probably ANY humans that live in the "internet culture". That is all that instagram and facebook really is. En masse Narcissism. I don't think you believe me when I say that I was very much against GWB when he was president. My posts are all here. You can see the past. I'm not a Russian. I'm not a Nazi. I'm not a Blumpy-Bot. I'm not a GOP sycophant. But can you see how calling somebody all of those names everyday will push someone to lean that way over time? I'll be the first to admit that I lean a lot further Right than I'm comfortable with. It wasn't always that way. Do Right, Be Right. :)
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 9:48 AM
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 1:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by captaincrunch: But then Ocasio-Cortez spoke, followed by Bush, and I saw something truly terrifying. I saw just how easy it would be, were I less involved and less certain of our nation’s founding and its history, to fall for the populist lines they were shouting from that stage. I saw how easy it would be, as a parent, to accept the idea that my children deserve healthcare and education. I saw how easy it would be, as someone who has struggled to make ends meet, to accept the idea that a “living wage” was a human right. Above all, I saw how easy it would be to accept the notion that it was the government’s job to make sure that those things were provided. I watched as both Ocasio-Cortez and Bush deftly chopped America up into demographics, pointed out how those demographics had been victimized under the current system, and then promised to be the voice for those demographics. The movement, Ocasio-Cortez shouted, “knows no zip code. It knows no state. It knows no race. It knows no gender. It knows no documented status.”
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 1:55 PM
Quote:Ironical - who'd want those things for themselves or their families??
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Ironical - who'd want those things for themselves or their families?? Pity (or government aid) would be no more if we did not MAKE men poor. What Americans need, more than anything, are meaningful jobs at living wages. Not a government teat to latch onto, which disempowers people in their own lives. Now, there are some areas where government rightfully should step in, such as managing the "commons" and building infrastructure, issuing currency and defending the borders, managing trade and breaking monopolies. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 3:42 PM
Quote: Signym, don't you remember the Mercury/Gemini/Apollo space program? It created millions of good paying jobs. And then Nixon killed it. Don't you remember the Interstate Highway Program? Or TVA? The Superconducting Super Collider? I remember when that was idiotically killed by the GOP and then all scientists, engineers and construction workers were fired. Once you go to the moon, or build the highway, or electrify the Tennessee Valley, the Federal government could keep going farther. It does NOT have to stop. It could invent bigger goals that create more jobs that pay well. But the Federal government did not. I blame the GOP. The GOP denies it. Ha! Liars!
Quote:Now jobs are created by the top 1 percenters and they are motivated by profit for themselves, not jobs for the other 99 percent.
Quote: That is why America is the way it is today. Don't try to claim it did not happen. Don't try to claim that the GOP wasn't the motivating force. I watched this happen over the last 50 years. I was there.
Quote: The government
Quote:turned control over to the unelected, uncaring 1 percenters who let the government look after the other 99 percent of Americans while the 1 percent look after only themselves.
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 4:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you have a SERIOUSLY warped view of history, especially American economic history. Democrats have had just as much of a hand in destroying jobs in America as the GOP. . . . Name me ONE CASE since roughly 1990 when a Democratic administration actually did anything good for American jobs. I'll bet you that you can't. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
Wednesday, July 25, 2018 7:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: SECOND, you have a SERIOUSLY warped view of history, especially American economic history. Democrats have had just as much of a hand in destroying jobs in America as the GOP. . . . Name me ONE CASE since roughly 1990 when a Democratic administration actually did anything good for American jobs. I'll bet you that you can't. "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND Signym, every time you write about reality, you write bullshit. You cannot truthfully write “Well, it's a good thing that I'm not a partisan Republican, and have NO INTEREST in defending the GOP!!" You are obviously pretending that Democrats are no better than Republicans. The facts say you lied. I see an obvious trend where Democratic Presidents create more jobs than Republicans, with the exception of Reagan. Which President Created the Most Jobs? 12 Presidents' Jobs Creation by Number and Percent www.thebalance.com/job-creation-by-president-by-number-and-percent-3863218 Bill Clinton (1993-2001) added 21.5 million jobs, a 19.6 percent increase. Barack Obama (2009-2017) created 17.267 million jobs by the end of December 2016, a 12.8 percent increase. Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) added 15.9 million jobs during his eight-year term, a 17.6 percent increase. Lyndon B. Johnson (1963-1969) added 11.9 million jobs to the 57.36 million employed in December 1963. That's a 20.7 percent increase. Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933-1945) added 10.3 million jobs, a 32.7 percent increase over the 31.5 million workers since 1939. Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) added 10.5 million jobs, a 13 percent increase. George H.W. Bush (1989-1993) added 2.6 million jobs. George W. Bush (2001-2009) created 2.1 million jobs during his eight-year term. The difference between GOP Presidents and Democrats? It can be measured in millions of jobs. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Thursday, July 26, 2018 12:27 AM
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Thursday, July 26, 2018 6:42 AM
Thursday, July 26, 2018 7:11 AM
Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:13 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It is confusing. Purposefully so. I don't judge you for being confused, Second. I think it's funny now that you're talking like the 3rd party is the way to go, something that I've always said, when usually you've got your head so far up the Democrat's asses that their anal cavities are your echo chamber. Why the sudden change of heart? Do Right, Be Right. :)
Thursday, July 26, 2018 9:25 AM
Thursday, July 26, 2018 10:26 AM
Quote: I see that Signym and 6ixStringJack are doing what they can to obscure and confuse that the economic performance of the Democratic Party is very different from the GOP. - SECOND
Quote: A president's record at job creation depends somewhat on the business cycle. For example, those who inherited a recession, like Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Carter and LBJ, did better at job creation. They started with a low base, and so had nowhere to go but up. Those that created recessions, like both Bushes, Nixon, and Eisenhower, did the worst.
Thursday, July 26, 2018 1:16 PM
Friday, July 27, 2018 6:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: I see that Signym and 6ixStringJack are doing what they can to obscure and confuse that the economic performance of the Democratic Party is very different from the GOP. - SECOND Did you manage to type that with a straight face? The article that you linked had a fatal flaw ... it merely looked at the jobs at the beginning of a tenure versus the jobs at the end, without reference to what part of a "business cycle" these endpoints were at. Even that article ... the one that YOU linked ... qualified their data about that. It said, in part Quote: A president's record at job creation depends somewhat on the business cycle. For example, those who inherited a recession, like Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Carter and LBJ, did better at job creation. They started with a low base, and so had nowhere to go but up. Those that created recessions, like both Bushes, Nixon, and Eisenhower, did the worst.
Quote: A president's record at job creation depends somewhat on the business cycle. For example, those who inherited a recession, like Clinton, Obama, Reagan, Carter and LBJ, did better at job creation. They started with a low base, and so had nowhere to go but up.
Friday, July 27, 2018 7:12 AM
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Friday, July 27, 2018 2:16 PM
Friday, July 27, 2018 2:19 PM
Quote: The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes ...
Friday, July 27, 2018 2:40 PM
Quote:The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Juncker came to the meeting in Washington well-prepared, with “more than a dozen colorful cue cards with simplified explainers,” such as numbers and factoids about complex topics such as automotive trade. Each easy-to-read card had, at most, three figures, a senior European Union official told the Journal.
Friday, July 27, 2018 3:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote: The son of former President Ronald Reagan believes ... Pure speculation and unfounded opinion. Any time you talk about "belief", you're promoting a religion. So thanks for that religious interlude, SECOND. ----------- Pity would be no more, If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876
Friday, July 27, 2018 3:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that Juncker came to the meeting in Washington well-prepared, with “more than a dozen colorful cue cards with simplified explainers,” such as numbers and factoids about complex topics such as automotive trade. Each easy-to-read card had, at most, three figures, a senior European Union official told the Journal. The perpetually-drunk Juncker probably NEEDED flashcards! "The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND
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