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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 4:55 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
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First of all Jack, the one thing you list is enough to prove you wrong. Follow the link and watch the video and you will see what Clinton said about Benghazi in her private emails as reported by the press.

Really Jack, get with it. Try doing some research instead of just ranting out your ignorant opinions.



I forgot about your ADD. I will try to keep my posts to you no longer than 3 sentences maximum.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



This post is only one line Jack and you make no sense at all. What are you talking about?

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You only read what you want to read. In the case of somebody that you regularly don't agree with, you find the one sentence you disagree with most and throw everything else away. I will, therefore, keep my replies to you in three sentences or less since that is the limit of your attention span.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



You can't possibly know how much of your post I read. And because you post uneducated opinions that ramble on I don't focus on every point. The first premise of your post was that it was not legal to post the contents of other peoples emails, therefore we did not see Clintons.

You were wrong. I proved you wrong, and this post is how you respond. Not by admitting that you were wrong. And even your explanation does not match up with the post I said I didn't understand. I still don't know what "I forgot your add" means.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:04 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


No one can get the White House’s story on Flynn straight — including Trump
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/14/14613220/white-house-contrad
iction-flynn


The public has to parse through a confusing non-explanation of why one of the most powerful people in Trump’s administration was fired (or decided to resign) four weeks into the presidency.

Spicer repeated that Trump “instinctively thought that Gen. Flynn did not do anything wrong”. “Instinctively.” It’s an apt choice of words for a president who has repeatedly claimed to have a prescient understanding of government and world affairs. Doesn't understand as much as he thinks he does, does he?

How Vladimir Putin won Republicans' approval
He's an authoritarian strongman, and he's never been more popular with GOP voters.



The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:41 PM

THGRRI


It's amazing SECOND. Spicer said Trump asked for Flynns' resignation because he can no longer trust him. Trump blames the press for his having to resign and Kellyanne says Flynn still has the complete confidence of the president. And they all lied to vice president Pence. It's simply amazing. This administration has the biggest set of liars I have even witnessed.

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No one can get the White House’s story on Flynn straight — including Trump
www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/2/14/14613220/white-house-contrad
iction-flynn
The public has to parse through a confusing non-explanation of why one of the most powerful people in Trump’s administration was fired (or decided to resign) four weeks into the presidency.

Spicer repeated that Trump “instinctively thought that Gen. Flynn did not do anything wrong”. “Instinctively.” It’s an apt choice of words for a president who has repeatedly claimed to have a prescient understanding of government and world affairs. Doesn't understand as much as he thinks he does, does he?

How Vladimir Putin won Republicans' approval
He's an authoritarian strongman, and he's never been more popular with GOP voters.


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:21 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's amazing SECOND. . . . It's simply amazing. This administration has the biggest set of liars I have even witnessed.

Not that amazing if you've lived in Texas and dealt with Trump-like characters ( loud, vulgar, ignorant-and-proud-of-it, greedy self-promoters ) running businesses. A Trumpish Texas businessman prefers to hire the kind of people working in Trump's White House. I should add that you really don't want to be a customer of one of the Texas Trumpish businesses because you will have to sue them and threaten them to make live up to all their oversized promises.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 6:26 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
It's amazing SECOND. . . . It's simply amazing. This administration has the biggest set of liars I have even witnessed.

Not that amazing if you've lived in Texas and dealt with Trump-like characters ( loud, vulgar, ignorant-and-proud-of-it, greedy self-promoters ) running businesses. A Trumpish Texas businessman prefers to hire the kind of people working in Trump's White House. I should add that you really don't want to be customer of one of the Texas Trumpish businesses because you will have to sue them and threaten them to make live up to all their oversized promises.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



Alternate realities, and theirs comes from where, I swear I don't know.

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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 7:56 PM

THGRRI




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SECOND, you're being hysterical. Seriously. Calm down. It's people like you who let fascists in the door because they think that the fascists will "save them".

From what? I don't know ... probably the same boogeymen that the fascists themselves concoct, just to scare people. (Referencing that list that GSTRING brought up about fascists focusing on "enemies", that's what this whole BUT PUTIN! is about.)



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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The hysterical crying is optional- SECOND
Really??? Does that mean you'll shut up soon?

Geee... tax returns versus CIA coup.... tax returns versus a CIA coup ... I can't tell which is more important.

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Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics.
then he negates what he just said ..
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But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state. — Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 14, 2017



So, SECOND, do you prefer the deep state? Or the Trump state? Think it through, because those are your choices.


Deep state?
Or Trump state?


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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:25 PM

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SIG

Geee... tax returns versus CIA coup.... tax returns versus a CIA coup ... I can't tell which is more important.



CIA coup, shit Sig is that what you're trying to sell as factual now? You're a whack job.

Cites please;




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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.



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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:45 PM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.




Cites please


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Wednesday, February 15, 2017 11:48 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.

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Originally posted by THUGGER:
Cites please

Happy to oblige. I expect a thank you.

THUGGER admits he's a troll
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61371&p=1#1
024017

here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61329&p=3
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61343
and
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:28 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



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But Putin! Invaded a sovereign nation.
So did GWB - TWICE! And so did Obama!~ But I don't see you bitching about it.
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But Putin! Hacked into and manipulated our elections
He did neither. The elections were NOT hacked, and were NOT manipulated. http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/12/opinions/russia-role-shocking-but-not-ha
cked-douglas
/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-re
view-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.7f063298de92

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But Putin! Was in contact with Trump's campaign during and after the election.
Was neither.



And look at the definitive NYTimes article! Admissions there's no evidence! Unsubstantiated claims and allegations! Anonymous sources! DISCUSSING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL WITH THE PRESS!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-com
munications-trump.html?_r=0


By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MARK MAZZETTI and MATT APUZZOFEB. 14, 2017

President Trump spoke with Vladimir V. Putin on Jan. 28. His national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, right, resigned Monday. Credit Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

Phone records ... intercepted calls (ie hacked by the US government) ... four current and former American officials (who?) ... American law enforcement and intelligence agencies (who?) ... intercepted the communications (ie hacked by the US government) ... trying ... three of the officials (who?) said ... (evidence?)... whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

But ... officials said ...

All of the current and former officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because the continuing investigation is classified.

The officials said ... The officials declined ... intercepted communications ... investigates ... according to officials ... officials said... not been charged with any crimes
Law enforcement officials did not say to what extent the contacts might have been about business.

The officials would not disclose many details ... It is also unclear whether the conversations had anything to do with Mr. Trump himself.

A report ... American intelligence agencies ... did not address ... intercepted calls ... But ... The F.B.I. declined to comment ... The F.B.I. has closely examined at least three other people close to Mr. Trump, although it is unclear ... trying to assess ... dossier ... raft of allegations ... unsubstantiated claims ...

The F.B.I. has spent several months investigating the leads in the dossier, but has yet to confirm any of its most explosive claims.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:42 AM

THGRRI



I think I'll pass. You cite firefly fan threads. Not going to prove there's a CIA coup going on that way. Hey here's a thought. Why don't you actually post some truth so you don't always have to deflect this way.


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Originally posted by 1kiki:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.

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Originally posted by THUGGER:
Cites please

THUGGER admits he's a troll
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61371&p=1#1
024017

here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61329&p=3
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61343
and
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:45 AM

THGRRI


1kiki, 1kiki. The news is reporting on this shit every day. Your crap don't float.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

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But Putin! Invaded a sovereign nation.
So did GWB - TWICE! And so did Obama!~ But I don't see you bitching about it.
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But Putin! Hacked into and manipulated our elections
He did neither. The elections were NOT hacked, and were NOT manipulated.
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But Putin! Was in contact with Trump's campaign during and after the election.
Was neither.



And look at the definitive NYTimes article! Admissions there's no evidence! Unsubstantiated claims and allegations! Anonymous sources! DISCUSSING CLASSIFIED MATERIAL WITH THE PRESS!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-com
munications-trump.html?_r=0


By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT, MARK MAZZETTI and MATT APUZZOFEB. 14, 2017

President Trump spoke with Vladimir V. Putin on Jan. 28. His national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, right, resigned Monday. Credit Jonathan Ernst/Reuters

Phone records ... intercepted calls (ie hacked by the US government) ... four current and former American officials (who?) ... American law enforcement and intelligence agencies (who?) ... intercepted the communications (ie hacked by the US government) ... trying ... three of the officials (who?) said ... (evidence?)... whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

But ... officials said ...

All of the current and former officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because the continuing investigation is classified.

The officials said ... The officials declined ... intercepted communications ... investigates ... according to officials ... officials said... not been charged with any crimes
Law enforcement officials did not say to what extent the contacts might have been about business.

The officials would not disclose many details ... It is also unclear whether the conversations had anything to do with Mr. Trump himself.

A report ... American intelligence agencies ... did not address ... intercepted calls ... But ... The F.B.I. declined to comment ... The F.B.I. has closely examined at least three other people close to Mr. Trump, although it is unclear ... trying to assess ... dossier ... raft of allegations ... unsubstantiated claims ...

The F.B.I. has spent several months investigating the leads in the dossier, but has yet to confirm any of its most explosive claims.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:47 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:48 AM

THGRRI


Cites please SIG. I've been asking for cites showing where you got the information there is a CIA coup going on in this country.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.




Cites please


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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:55 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Actually, what you asked for were cites that you're a deep state troll. I can't believe it, but you're so fucking dishonest you lie about your own posts, with quotes that disprove your own lies.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please SIG. I've been asking for cites showing where you got the information


Cites please.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:59 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Meanwhile, here are the cites about you being a troll, as requested.

I expect a thank you.


THUGGER admits he's a troll
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61371&p=1#1
024017

here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61329&p=3
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61343
and
here http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61366




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:07 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Donald Trump then spent the early morning Wednesday unhappily tweeting about this:

This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.
6:08 AM -15 Feb 2017

If in fact all of this is “non-sense,” Trump has the power as president to make that clear immediately - by declassifying all government intercepts of communications between Russian nationals and anyone in his orbit.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15/trump-has-the-power-to-declassify-
whatever-he-wants-including-the-russian-intercepts
/

Trump has the power to declassify anything he wants, right now. But I think that is as unlikely to happen as Trump declassifying his income tax returns, you know, the returns he promised to publicize to show America what a truthful businessman he is, with no hidden, dishonest dealings.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:13 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead. But he didn't do the work. We will have to wait for the posthumous biographies to find out the real reasons why he didn't.

Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating. But either Trump can't think of a way to do that (he is a very weak planner) or else he must not agree with your assessment because he has done nothing other than tweet about it. This is very unwise of Trump, assuming he actually wants to be in charge of the White House.
www.marketwatch.com/story/intelligence-officials-withhold-sensitive-in
formation-from-trump-report-2017-02-15


Maybe the office of President should be filled with somebody more decisive and with more ideas than Trump. Perhaps Pence? If Trump keeps acting like he has early onset dementia he will be run over by the bureaucracy.

From my experience with Trumpish Texas businessmen, they are loudmouth jerks, in it only for the money, who will back down if you confront them. The CIA has confronted Trump. The New York Trump doesn't appear to have more strength of character or knowledge of how to handle powerful opposition than the average Texas Trumpish blowhard out to get rich.

Maybe Trump is too old, too rich and too lazy to do the job of being President. Or too crazy.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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The hysterical crying is optional- SECOND
Really??? Does that mean you'll shut up soon?

Geee... tax returns versus CIA coup.... tax returns versus a CIA coup ... I can't tell which is more important.

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Obviously strongly prefer normal democratic and constitutional politics.
then he negates what he just said ..
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But if it comes to it, prefer the deep state to the Trump state. — Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) February 14, 2017



So, SECOND, do you prefer the deep state? Or the Trump state? Think it through, because those are your choices.


Deep state?
Or Trump state?


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Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:43 AM

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No 1kiki, that's how SIG responded to my request for cites. So I asked for them again. You know that, you're the liar here and that's nothing new.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Actually, what you asked for were cites that you're a deep state troll. I can't believe it, but you're so fucking dishonest you lie about your own posts, with quotes that disprove your own lies.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Cites please SIG. I've been asking for cites showing where you got the information


Cites please.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 8:48 AM

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The Republicans are blocking appointing a special prosecutor to investigate Trumps ties to Russia. But they want to investigate the leaks. Keeps in mind, the leak was truthful and without it Flynn would still be national security adviser. He would still be sitting in on our countries most sensitive intelligence updates. Even Trump said he asked for his resignation because he couldn't be trusted.

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Originally posted by second:
Donald Trump then spent the early morning Wednesday unhappily tweeting about this:

This Russian connection non-sense is merely an attempt to cover-up the many mistakes made in Hillary Clinton's losing campaign.
6:08 AM -15 Feb 2017

If in fact all of this is “non-sense,” Trump has the power as president to make that clear immediately - by declassifying all government intercepts of communications between Russian nationals and anyone in his orbit.

https://theintercept.com/2017/02/15/trump-has-the-power-to-declassify-
whatever-he-wants-including-the-russian-intercepts
/

Trump has the power to declassify anything he wants, right now. But I think that is as unlikely to happen as Trump declassifying his income tax returns, you know, the returns he promised to publicize to show America what a truthful businessman he is, with no hidden, dishonest dealings.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead.
Agreed

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Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

"Nobody" is not a choice. It's either the elected President of the USA, at least nominally in charge, or it's whoever the deep state chooses. You and I don't have a choice of "neither of the above".

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Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating.
And hopefully, if Trump can't figure out a way, his advisors can, and he will be smart enough to listen.

I voted for Trump for a reason. I knew ahead of time, and said so quite often, than Trump would be a loose cannon and- look!- Trump is a loose cannon! But Trump is NOT a deep-stater, or a transnational global financialist; he's far too nationalistic for that. IF I HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN BACKING INTERNATIONAL FASCISM VERSUS NATIONAL FASCISM, I'LL CHOOSE NATIONAL FASCISM. Because if the control is here, in the USA, WE (Americans) have the possibility of fighting for our future. But if the nexus of control is spread across the globe, and the USA has no more control over its own economic, environmental, energy, labor etc policies than (say) Greece, but must bend to the will of some unreachable unelected organization someplace else ... WHAT THEN, SECOND?

I thought that if Trump was elected, I - and others who feel like me- would be fighting Trump on a number of issues, either at the state level (under states rights) or at the Federal level, with every LEGAL, DEMOCRATIC means at our disposal. And in four years, or eight- depending on how quickly a viable left-of-center candidate is put forward - we will start fulfilling the will of the American people.

But a bunch of idiots- like you- who whine, bitch, moan, and riot against the FACT of the Trump Presidency - who are willing to use, approve of, and abet non-democratic means to "get rid of Trump" .... who would cheer on the deep state to fulfill your media-inflamed short-sighted temper tantrum .... are a bigger danger to our freedom than Trump himself.

So, gee thanks.


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Thursday, February 16, 2017 10:37 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And I'm not the only left-of-center person to think so* (*see above):

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"Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

In the interview, Kucinich blamed factions of the US intelligence community for wanting to end any positive relationship between Russia and the US, hoping for a return of the cold war.

"...the American people have to know that there's a game going on inside the intelligence community... at the bottom of all this is the fact that there are those that seek to separate US from Russia to reignite the cold war... wake up America!!"

Kucinich did not see this as an anti-Trump game, but rather an anti-Russia game:

“It’s not just this administration. I want to remind the views and all those who are on the panel that in the closing months of the Obama administration, they put together a deal with Russia to create peace in Syria. A few days later, a military strike in Syria killed a hundred Syrian soldiers and that ended the agreement. What happened is inside the intelligence and the Pentagon there was a deliberate effort to sabotage an agreement the White House made.”

This is like “Deep State” said Kucinich.



I'm taking a LEFT WING stance, not a RIGHT WING one. People on the left- like Glenn Greenwald, Kucinich, and Matt Taibbi - know where it's at. Obama was not a "left wing" President, any more than Hillary was a "left wing" candidate. Liberals are so used to identifying themselves ... and anyone who claims to be a liberal ... as some sort of enlightened left-of-center group that when they get criticized FROM THE LEFT they don't even recognize where the criticism is coming from - they assume it's from the right.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:59 AM

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Shit SIG, this is all quoted from zerohedge except the one regarding Flynn. Can't you ever tell the truth? Your refusal to stop lying, and posting from sources that are known to be lying, removes any doubt of you being a troll. Daily SIG, daily, you are shown to be posting lies. It also proves once again you have no intention of being an honest broker in these threads. I'm still waiting for your cites showing were you got your information on a CIA coup taking place in America. I'm sure I'll wait till hell freezes over because we both know that's a lie as well.

Content Checked For Plagiarism:

Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-16/wake-america-dennis-kucinich-
defends-tramp-issues-dire-waming-about-deep-state/span>
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And I'm not the only left-of-center person to think so* (*see above):

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"Wake Up America" Dennis Kucinich Defends Trump, Issues Dire Warning About "Deep State"

In the interview, Kucinich blamed factions of the US intelligence community for wanting to end any positive relationship between Russia and the US, hoping for a return of the cold war.

"...the American people have to know that there's a game going on inside the intelligence community... at the bottom of all this is the fact that there are those that seek to separate US from Russia to reignite the cold war... wake up America!!"

Kucinich did not see this as an anti-Trump game, but rather an anti-Russia game:

“It’s not just this administration. I want to remind the views and all those who are on the panel that in the closing months of the Obama administration, they put together a deal with Russia to create peace in Syria. A few days later, a military strike in Syria killed a hundred Syrian soldiers and that ended the agreement. What happened is inside the intelligence and the Pentagon there was a deliberate effort to sabotage an agreement the White House made.”

This is like “Deep State” said Kucinich.



I'm taking a LEFT WING stance, not a RIGHT WING one. People on the left- like Glenn Greenwald, Kucinich, and Matt Taibbi - know where it's at. Obama was not a "left wing" President, Hillary was not a "left wing" candidate. Liberals are so used to identifying themselves ... and anyone who claims to be a liberal ... as some sort of enlightened left-of-center group that when they get criticized FROM THE LEFT they don't even recognize where the criticism is coming from - they assume it's from the right.



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:13 PM

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THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.




And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

heh heh heh
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Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:46 PM

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Again you miss the point. You keep going back to the well of misinformation as your source. What you posted was written by people who HIDE THEIR IDENTIES. I check a lot of your quotes out before I read them. If they come from a bullshit source I won't read them. I'll just point that out.

The other thing is that you found someone who wrongfully believes it's our intelligence agencies that are driving the message. It's not, it's Russian activities that are driving the message; globally. And it is patriots, and Trumps own advisors who are engaged in a power struggle amongst themselves, that are leaking.

The problem you and Kucinich share is that the leaked information is true. Nothing you post changes that. Also it's worse than just Flynn. Others in Trumps campaign were in contact with the Russians during, and after, the campaign. That is also true and being investigated.

Just another negative anti-American post by SIG THE TROLL.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.

And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

heh heh heh
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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:09 PM

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Again you miss the point. You keep going back to the well of misinformation as your source. What you posted was written by people who HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES.
BUT POST LINKS TO THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. SO THAT YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT TOO LAZY OR STUPID, (you seem to be both) CAN FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.

And having had your ass handed to you on what Kucinich said ... and how he implicitly criticized deep-state tools like you ... you try to divert the conversation and bury the posts. That doesn't even deserve a "nice try", troll.




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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:35 PM

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If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead.
Agreed

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Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

"Nobody" is not a choice. It's either the elected President of the USA, at least nominally in charge, or it's whoever the deep state chooses. You and I don't have a choice of "neither of the above".

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Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating.
And hopefully, if Trump can't figure out a way, his advisors can, and he will be smart enough to listen.

I voted for Trump for a reason. I knew ahead of time, and said so quite often, than Trump would be a loose cannon and- look!- Trump is a loose cannon! But Trump is NOT a deep-stater, or a transnational global financialist; he's far too nationalistic for that. IF I HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN BACKING INTERNATIONAL FASCISM VERSUS NATIONAL FASCISM, I'LL CHOOSE NATIONAL FASCISM. Because if the control is here, in the USA, WE (Americans) have the possibility of fighting for our future. But if the nexus of control is spread across the globe, and the USA has no more control over its own economic, environmental, energy, labor etc policies than (say) Greece, but must bend to the will of some unreachable unelected organization someplace else ... WHAT THEN, SECOND?

I thought that if Trump was elected, I - and others who feel like me- would be fighting Trump on a number of issues, either at the state level (under states rights) or at the Federal level, with every LEGAL, DEMOCRATIC means at our disposal. And in four years, or eight- depending on how quickly a viable left-of-center candidate is put forward - we will start fulfilling the will of the American people.

But a bunch of idiots- like you- who whine, bitch, moan, and riot against the FACT of the Trump Presidency - who are willing to use, approve of, and abet non-democratic means to "get rid of Trump" .... who would cheer on the deep state to fulfill your media-inflamed short-sighted temper tantrum .... are a bigger danger to our freedom than Trump himself.

So, gee thanks.





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Thursday, February 16, 2017 1:36 PM

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REPOSTED
THUGR, your ability to resist the truth is amazing. You get an award for sticking your head up your ass and firmly keeping it there.

Here is Kucinich, per the link helpfully provided by Zerohedge, and he has a LOT MORE to say about this than the deep state. Much of his criticism is pointed directly at you and people like you, THUGR, for being idiots, puppets, patsies, dupes... whatever you want to call it.




And what's with posting the same link a half-dozen times? Do you think it makes you look like you did some "research"?

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Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:10 PM

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So, GSTRING, aside from making me the focus of your post (in your usual trollish fashion) do you have anything ON TOPIC to say?



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Thursday, February 16, 2017 6:50 PM

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Again, SIG THE TROLL. They alter the text to make it appear as though it is saying something else.
You ignorant bitch.

It's why they hide their identities. I've said that here at least a dozen times. You continue to ignore the truth of it. Which explains why you hold the title of Russian troll.

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Again you miss the point. You keep going back to the well of misinformation as your source. What you posted was written by people who HIDE THEIR IDENTITIES.
BUT POST LINKS TO THE ORIGINAL SOURCE. SO THAT YOU, IF YOU'RE NOT TOO LAZY OR STUPID, (you seem to be both) CAN FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF.

And having had your ass handed to you on what Kucinich said ... and how he implicitly criticized deep-state tools like you ... you try to divert the conversation and bury the posts. That doesn't even deserve a "nice try", troll.




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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
REPOSTED
Quote:

If Trump had really intended to drain the swamp, fight the deep state, make America great, he should have planned ahead.
Agreed

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Signym, that means it is not an either/or choice between "deep state? Or the Trump state." I don't think Trump has the brainpower or stamina to run the government. That leaves nobody in charge.

"Nobody" is not a choice. It's either the elected President of the USA, at least nominally in charge, or it's whoever the deep state chooses. You and I don't have a choice of "neither of the above".

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Trump could respond to your idea (certainly not mine) of the entire CIA staging a coup d'état against Trump by retaliating.
And hopefully, if Trump can't figure out a way, his advisors can, and he will be smart enough to listen.

I voted for Trump for a reason. I knew ahead of time, and said so quite often, than Trump would be a loose cannon and- look!- Trump is a loose cannon! But Trump is NOT a deep-stater, or a transnational global financialist; he's far too nationalistic for that. IF I HAVE A CHOICE BETWEEN BACKING INTERNATIONAL FASCISM VERSUS NATIONAL FASCISM, I'LL CHOOSE NATIONAL FASCISM. Because if the control is here, in the USA, WE (Americans) have the possibility of fighting for our future. But if the nexus of control is spread across the globe, and the USA has no more control over its own economic, environmental, energy, labor etc policies than (say) Greece, but must bend to the will of some unreachable unelected organization someplace else ... WHAT THEN, SECOND?

I did not vote for Trump because I am extremely familiar with the type. Texas is infested with little wannabe Trumps, little super-patriots waving their huge American flags on poles outside their businesses. The Trumps of Texas and New York state are loud, aggressive, greedy, and, when they are not looking after their own interests, lazy and ignorant. People like Trump run and hide from people who aren't profitable for them. Trump will do a terrible job for you, Signym. It is in his nature. Trump gave a press conference today and he revealed himself:
www.vox.com/2017/2/16/14640956/trump-press-conference-flynn-fired

or there is this Trump talk:

ALEXANDER: You said today that you had the biggest electoral margin since Ronald Reagan, 304, 306 electoral votes. But President Obama had 365....

TRUMP: Well, I'm talking about Republicans.

ALEXANDER: George H.W. Bush, 426 when he won as president. So why should Americans trust you?

TRUMP: Well no, I was given that information. I don't know, I was just given—we had a very, very big margin.

ALEXANDER: I guess my question is why Americans should trust you when you use information...

TRUMP: Well, I don't know, I was given that information. I was given—I actually, I've seen that information around.
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/my-job-just-got-lot-easier

Trump is a lazy ignoramus who can't talk sense. And Signym voted for him. Signym's whys for voting Trump are as bad as Trump's explanations for why he fired Flynn.




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Friday, February 17, 2017 7:36 AM

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AH, THE TRUTH WILL OUT: MARK ZUCKERBERG HATES AMERICA

Mark Zuckerberg Rejects "America First", wants something else OVER AMERICA.

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Mark Zuckerberg Rejects "America First", Calls For Global Community
First, there is no such thing as "the global community". That presumes the "global community" have a commonality of interests .... We want more food and less war ... and the means to make it happen. IF that were the case, there wouldn't be so many wars, and so many millions of displaced people. Mark Zuckerberg has yet to stop a war.

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Hot on the heels of retailers who have halted sales of Ivanka Trump's clothing line in protest against Trump (and free marketing buzz), the tech "resistance" against Trump got its lead from Facebook CEO Mark Zuckeberg who on Thursday posted a lengthy note "rebuking isolationist “America First” sentiment, and touting the merits of globalization and a “global community” working for innovation and progress."

And deliver poverty and tyranny. So, spies and software giants find themselves in the same "globalization" camp.

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In short, the CEO of the "social network", whose business model is predicated upon uninhibited globalization allowing advertisers to reach into every corner of the world with 3 second video clips, is calling for a global government. Not all that surprising.

So tell me , Mark, how has your technology made the world a better place? Other than for advertising, that is?

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As the Daily Beast, which first reported about Zuckerberg's post, summarizes:

Discouraged by the underlying suspicion of foreign entities, as seen during the 2016 election and the rise of President Trump, Zuckerberg wrote that he wants to refocus Facebook on helping people come together access products across borders.

“We have to build a global community that works for everyone me . I really don’t have much doubt that this is the right direction to go in the long term.” Part of his goal, he wrote, is to make Facebook a global community that is supportive, safe, informed, civically engaged, and inclusive. supportive of our products

Some more excerpts from Zuckerberg's sermon for globalization:

On our journey to connect the world, we often discuss products we're building and updates on our business. Today I want to focus on the most important question of all: are we building the world we all want Am I making as much money as I want?

History is the story of how we've learned to come together in ever greater numbers -- from tribes to cities to nations. At each step, we built social infrastructure like communities, media and governments to empower us to achieve things we couldn't on our own make sure that most of us were heading in the same direction, which was usually the direction that made a few people fabulously wealthy

Today we are close to taking our next step. Our greatest opportunities are now global -- like spreading prosperity and freedom poverty and powerlessness , promoting peace and understanding advertising and propaganda , lifting people out of poverty independence , and accelerating science conformity . Our greatest challenges also need global responses -- like ending terrorism, fighting climate change, and preventing pandemics. Progress now requires humanity coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community the borg.

This is especially important right now. Facebook stands for bringing us closer together me closer to total monopoly and building a global community gossip and groupthink. And while we're at it, advertizing products to captive eyeballs for the very rapacious companies that have made this planet a clusterfuck to begin with.

When we began, this idea was not controversial. successfully obscured Every year, the world got more connected and this was seen as a positive trend. Yet now, across the world there are people left behind hollowed out by globalization, and movements for withdrawing from global connection monopolization . There are questions about whether we can make a global community market that works for everyone makes money for me and whether the path ahead is to connect profit more or reverse course.

This is a time when many of us around the world are reflecting on how we can have the most positive impact still continue to make money in a fragmenting market. I am reminded of my favorite saying about technology: "We always overestimate what we can do in two years, and we underestimate what we can do in ten years." We I may not have the power to create the world we I want immediately, but we you can all start working on fulfilling my long-term vision

In times like these, the most important thing we at Facebook can do is develop the social infrastructure marketing to give corral people the power to build a global community monopoly that works for all of us. us and our advertizers.

There are many of us who stand for bringing people together and connecting making money off the entire world. I hope we have the focus to take the long view and build the new social infrastructure to create leach off the world we want for generations to come.

With the seal of criticism now official broken, we anticipate more tech CEOs will soon join the "resistance" with even louder, more dramatic statements of opposition to
Trump's "America First" policies. Because we don't believe in America.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/building-global-communi
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AH, THE TRUTH WILL OUT: MARK ZUCKERBERG HATES AMERICA,

Seriously, he hates America, Even the THOUGHT of America makes him sick, Yanno, kinda like THUGR, who can't even imagine what he's FOR about America.

Sarcasm on. Zuckerberg must hate America because, with 2 billion users of Facebook, many who are not living in the USA, Zuckerberg is in charge of the 3rd largest network in the world. The 2nd largest network is the Internet with 3.5 billion users. The largest network is Money with 7.3 billion users. Signym could argue that the Internet and Money are without net value to super-patriotic Signym because those networks extend across national borders, as does Facebook. Close the borders to save American jobs and save American lives from terrorists! Sarcasm off.

http://onlyagame.typepad.com/only_a_game/2017/02/top-ten-cybergs.html

Oh, I forgot to mention that Trump's dementia is starting to show. If you can watch his news conference all the way to the end and think he has got all his marbles, you have lost your marbles. The entire point of this press conference seemed to be directed at one thing: accusing the press of being horrible and dishonest. This came up in nearly every Trump answer. This is a great strategy for shoring up his base, of course. As near as I can tell, conservatives all thought this dumpster fire of a press conference was a terrific performance. Sad.


The nine most insane moments from Donald Trump’s reality-challenged press conference
https://qz.com/912956/real-leaks-fake-news-nine-insane-moments-from-tr
umps-press-conference
/

Here Are Your Highlights of Today's Trump Press Meltdown
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/02/here-are-your-highlights-todays
-trump-press-meltdown


Donald Trump’s explanation for why he fired Michael Flynn makes no sense
www.vox.com/2017/2/16/14640956/trump-press-conference-flynn-fired

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The first premise of your post was that it was not legal to post the contents of other peoples emails, therefore we did not see Clintons.



That is not at all what I said. The media told people that it was illegal for us to read Clinton's emails, therefore we should let them read them and tell us what was in them. Take a much needed course in reading comprehension for adults at your local community college.




Per CNN:

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remember... it's illegal to possess these stolen documents. It's different for the media. So everything you learn about this, you're learning from US.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 17, 2017 12:29 PM

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ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder.

I'm pretty sure everyone in the developed nations of the world know that except for THGGRI.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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We all remember the past year and a half and SIGs’ barrage of attacks against Hillary, and her staunch support of Trump. The same SIG who argued vehemently Trump would be a much better choice for President, is now finding ways to post how he sucks. Think about it. It’s very consistent. She bashes everything American. Trump is now the president so it’s time for her to pivot. Trump is bad, because Trump represents America. It will seem a bit Schizophrenic because she will be praising his support for Putin, until or if that changes, but Trump will now come under her attack. This is the point. Not what she will be saying against him.

As for her labeling Zuckerberg un-American, that too is obvious. When someone suggests she is heartless, she starts a thread to show she is not. Usually it’s over the top if you know what I mean. That’s all this is. She is calling Zuckerberg un-American as if to say hey, look at me, this proves I love America.

Let me be clear about what I believe gives the most insight into what SIG is about. She constantly cites untrustworthy and fake news sources to assist her in “trolling theses threads”. It would be great if she was confronted about her sourcing by others when she does that. I believe when she quotes others, who themselves are quoting others through untrustworthy sources, (by people who hide their identities), discussing anything but her source, is to argue against material she has posted that is subjective and void of the realities of the actual topic. To me it only makes sense to not discuss the topic, and instead call her out on her source.


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Originally posted by THGRRI:
The first premise of your post was that it was not legal to post the contents of other peoples emails, therefore we did not see Clintons.



That is not at all what I said. The media told people that it was illegal for us to read Clinton's emails, therefore we should let them read them and tell us what was in them. Take a much needed course in reading comprehension for adults at your local community college.

Per CNN:

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Do Right, Be Right. :)



Jack you're chasing your tail here. You'll have to do that on your own.

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Jack you're chasing your tail here. You'll have to do that on your own.



It's becoming clear that I'm wasting my time speaking with you. You suffer from some form of learning disability or something that makes it impossible to have intelligent conversation with you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, February 17, 2017 4:20 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Jack you're chasing your tail here. You'll have to do that on your own.



It's becoming clear that I'm wasting my time speaking with you. You suffer from some form of learning disability or something that makes it impossible to have intelligent conversation with you.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



Let me clear that up for you Jack. If you put forth an intelligent conversation you will get one back. So far you have yet to do so.

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Friday, February 17, 2017 6:58 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Let me clear that up for you Jack. If you put forth an intelligent conversation you will get one back. So far you have yet to do so.



I have yet to see an intelligent thing come from any of your posting since my sobriety THGGRI. When you're losing an argument, which is all of the time, you just lean back into your basket of deplorables insults or resort to calling somebody a troll or a communist sympatizer. But please, do continue to show everyone how obsessed you are with me.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Let me clear that up for you Jack. If you put forth an intelligent conversation you will get one back. So far you have yet to do so.



I have yet to see an intelligent thing come from any of your posting since my sobriety THGGRI. When you're losing an argument, which is all of the time, you just lean back into your basket of deplorables insults or resort to calling somebody a troll or a communist sympatizer. But please, do continue to show everyone how obsessed you are with me.

Do Right, Be Right. :)



What I posted Jack was relevant to the facts we were discussing. It's unfortunate but you kept shifting it as a defense. I could lay it all out, but it's not worth doing when you would only shift the point again.


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Oh look, the deep state troll just posted.





The term deep state is being used as a way to explain leaks within the White House. It's a conspiracy theory and why SIG says the CIA is staging a coup. She provides nothing to back that up.

It's the same with the Trump administration. The concept deep state is being used to deflect from and explain the investigations going on concerning Russia. As well as Trump and his aids constant lying. If they are not lying they are answering the questions of the press by changing the subject.

It's a strategy that will not work. Only 30 to 39 percent of the population is solid Trump. The other 60 or 70 percent are not. The facts already show Obama was much more successful during this time period in his presidency.

"Deep state" has historically been associated with countries like Turkey, where sophisticated shadow governments allegedly control or influence key aspects of state policy, but the term has gained attention in the United States as the Trump administration has struggled to control its bureaucracy in the face of leaks from the intelligence community.


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Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:17 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



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Oh, I forgot to mention that Trump's dementia is starting to show. If you can watch his news conference all the way to the end and think he has got all his marbles, you have lost your marbles. - SECOND


SECOND< THANK YOU for posting the link.

I listened to the entire press conference. and if there was anything in it that I disagreed with, I don't remember what it was


Yes, the press is dishonest
Yes, the leaks of confidential information are illegal
Yes, the leaks were done by the CIA/ NSA because they are the only ones with the capacity to listen in on telephone conversations.
Yes, the leaks were done by the CIA to prevent rapprochment with Russia.
YES, ALL OF THIS BULLSHIT ABOUT RUSSIA IS A SCAM
No, Flynn did not do or say anything illegal
YES, to repeat myself, this is part of a CIA plot
Yes, Pompeo and whoever is the next head of the National Security Advisor head better start firing hundreds and polygraphing thousands of staff

MAYBE CHARGE A COUPLE OF THESE CLOWNS WITH TREASON.

Did you even listen to this yourself?





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Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:21 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Oh look, the deep state troll just posted. - THUGR

The term deep state is being used as a way to explain leaks within the White House. It's a conspiracy theory and why SIG says the CIA is staging a coup. She provides nothing to back that up.

It's the same with the Trump administration. The concept deep state is being used to deflect from and explain the investigations going on concerning Russia. As well as Trump and his aids constant lying. If they are not lying they are answering the questions of the press by changing the subject.



Oh look, the Deep State Troll is defending itself.

It's no good, THUGR. You have finally outed yourself as a supporter of the deep state. You have said nothing against it, are constantly defending it and its actions, no matter how heinous. That just goes to show who you really are: a paid troll. They should get their money back.


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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


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Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:28 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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AH, THE TRUTH WILL OUT: MARK ZUCKERBERG HATES AMERICA

Mark Zuckerberg Rejects "America First", wants something else OVER AMERICA.

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Mark Zuckerberg Rejects "America First", Calls For Global Community
First, there is no such thing as "the global community". That presumes the "global community" have a commonality of interests .... We want more food and less war ... and the means to make it happen. IF that were the case, there wouldn't be so many wars, and so many millions of displaced people. Mark Zuckerberg has yet to stop a war.

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Hot on the heels of retailers who have halted sales of Ivanka Trump's clothing line in protest against Trump (and free marketing buzz), the tech "resistance" against Trump got its lead from Facebook CEO Mark Zuckeberg who on Thursday posted a lengthy note "rebuking isolationist “America First” sentiment, and touting the merits of globalization and a “global community” working for innovation and progress."

And deliver poverty and tyranny. So, spies and software giants find themselves in the same "globalization" camp.

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In short, the CEO of the "social network", whose business model is predicated upon uninhibited globalization allowing advertisers to reach into every corner of the world with 3 second video clips, is calling for a global government. Not all that surprising.

So tell me , Mark, how has your technology made the world a better place? Other than for advertising, that is?

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As the Daily Beast, which first reported about Zuckerberg's post, summarizes:

Discouraged by the underlying suspicion of foreign entities, as seen during the 2016 election and the rise of President Trump, Zuckerberg wrote that he wants to refocus Facebook on helping people come together access products across borders.

“We have to build a global community that works for everyone me . I really don’t have much doubt that this is the right direction to go in the long term.” Part of his goal, he wrote, is to make Facebook a global community that is supportive, safe, informed, civically engaged, and inclusive. supportive of our products

Some more excerpts from Zuckerberg's sermon for globalization:

On our journey to connect the world, we often discuss products we're building and updates on our business. Today I want to focus on the most important question of all: are we building the world we all want Am I making as much money as I want?

History is the story of how we've learned to come together in ever greater numbers -- from tribes to cities to nations. At each step, we built social infrastructure like communities, media and governments to empower us to achieve things we couldn't on our own make sure that most of us were heading in the same direction, which was usually the direction that made a few people fabulously wealthy

Today we are close to taking our next step. Our greatest opportunities are now global -- like spreading prosperity and freedom poverty and powerlessness , promoting peace and understanding advertising and propaganda , lifting people out of poverty independence , and accelerating science conformity . Our greatest challenges also need global responses -- like ending terrorism, fighting climate change, and preventing pandemics. Progress now requires humanity coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community the borg.

This is especially important right now. Facebook stands for bringing us closer together me closer to total monopoly and building a global community gossip and groupthink. And while we're at it, advertizing products to captive eyeballs for the very rapacious companies that have made this planet a clusterfuck to begin with.

When we began, this idea was not controversial. successfully obscured Every year, the world got more connected and this was seen as a positive trend. Yet now, across the world there are people left behind hollowed out by globalization, and movements for withdrawing from global connection monopolization . There are questions about whether we can make a global community market that works for everyone makes money for me and whether the path ahead is to connect profit more or reverse course.

This is a time when many of us around the world are reflecting on how we can have the most positive impact still continue to make money in a fragmenting market. I am reminded of my favorite saying about technology: "We always overestimate what we can do in two years, and we underestimate what we can do in ten years." We I may not have the power to create the world we I want immediately, but we you can all start working on fulfilling my long-term vision

In times like these, the most important thing we at Facebook can do is develop the social infrastructure marketing to give corral people the power to build a global community monopoly that works for all of us. us and our advertizers.

There are many of us who stand for bringing people together and connecting making money off the entire world. I hope we have the focus to take the long view and build the new social infrastructure to create leach off the world we want for generations to come.


With the seal of criticism now official broken, we anticipate more tech CEOs will soon join the "resistance" with even louder, more dramatic statements of opposition to
Trump's "America First" policies. Because we don't believe in America.


https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/building-global-communi
ty/10154544292806634?_fb_noscript=1



WHATEVER YOU THINK SUCKERBERG IS SAYING ABOUT THE "INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY" ... OF WHICH THERE IS NONE ... JUST REMEMBER THAT EVERYTHING HE REALLY WANTS IS YOUR POWER AND YOUR MONEY. All if this blather about bringing the world together, pointing to a "community" that doesn't really exist, talking about advancement and progress, is just so much bullshit.



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Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:47 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Did you even listen to this yourself?



lol no. She listened to what Seth Meyers had to say about it though.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:53 AM

THGRRI


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Oh look, the deep state troll just posted. - THUGR

The term deep state is being used as a way to explain leaks within the White House. It's a conspiracy theory and why SIG says the CIA is staging a coup. She provides nothing to back that up.

It's the same with the Trump administration. The concept deep state is being used to deflect from and explain the investigations going on concerning Russia. As well as Trump and his aids constant lying. If they are not lying they are answering the questions of the press by changing the subject.



Oh look, the Deep State Troll is defending itself.

It's no good, THUGR. You have finally outed yourself as a supporter of the deep state. You have said nothing against it, are constantly defending it and its actions, no matter how heinous. That just goes to show who you really are: a paid troll. They should get their money back.




I said deep state is a fantasy. Again SIG this is not Russia. We have three equal branches of government that work to keep each other in check. I'll bet you loved leakers when it was Snowden. I'll have to go back and see some of what you posted.

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