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Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

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Just like he is getting more youthful looking and, any day now in order to win the general election, will be embracing Christ and throwing aside his Judaism/atheism/socialism.

here are a few exit poll results from Michigan:

Sanders won union households 49-47 percent.

Clinton won voters who think the economy is the most important issue by 51-48 percent.

Among voters who think trade with other countries takes away US jobs, Sanders won 58-41 percent.

Among voters worried about the economy, Clinton won 50-48 percent.

Sanders won a convincing victory among voters who think trade takes away US jobs. But more generally, voters concerned about the economy broke pretty evenly.

The bigger story, perhaps, is that Sanders won a whopping 83 percent of voters under 30. That's a fifth of the electorate. He also won a respectable 31 percent of the black vote. In both cases, this is better than he usually does.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I'm all for the little guy finally getting a break in this country. Minimum wage, health care, etc. But Bernie sounds more and more
like a broken record. All he continues to say is "Wall Street, Billionaires
and fixed economy."

Granted, those things matter and are part of the landscape, but the country's problems run much deeper than that. Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this
country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.


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A report on Yahoo News August 24 raises the question of “How President Bernie Sanders would handle foreign policy.” It begins by taking note of this curious fact: “Bernie Sanders, the Independent senator from Vermont, has a special ‘War and Peace’ section on his official website, detailing his views on issues like Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East peace process. Bernie Sanders, the contender for the Democratic presidential nomination … doesn’t.”

The report goes on to detail the positions that Sanders has taken on a range of foreign policy issues, based on his voting record as a congressman and senator. His profile is typical of liberal Democrats, supporting the Clinton administration’s war against Serbia in 1999 and the Bush administration’s invasion of Afghanistan in 2001, while voting against the Persian Gulf War in 1991 and the Authorization for the Use of Military Force against Iraq in 2002. Sanders criticized Obama’s bombing of Libya in 2011—mainly because he did not seek congressional authorization—but backed his bombing of Iraq and Syria in 2014.

Sanders is a down-the-line supporter of the state of Israel, repeatedly endorsing Israeli onslaughts against the Gaza Strip, most recently the savage bombardment of July-August 2014 which killed nearly 2,000 Palestinians, including more than 500 children. At an August 2014 town hall meeting, Sanders notoriously demanded that audience members “shut up” when they questioned his support for Israel’s criminal actions.

He is a vociferous opponent of China in both economic

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and foreign policy, and backed the US intervention in Ukraine to foment a coup spearheaded by fascist elements to overthrow the pro-Russian government and set up a pro-Western stooge regime. “The entire world has got to stand up to Putin,” Sanders declared last year, at a time when the warmongering campaign in the US and European media was at its height.-

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I'm all for the little guy finally getting a break in this country. Minimum wage, health care, etc. But Bernie sounds more and more
like a broken record. All he continues to say is "Wall Street, Billionaires
and fixed economy."

Granted, those things matter and are part of the landscape, but the country's problems run much deeper than that. Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this
country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.


SGG

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Which issue, that you're concerned about, has he not addressed?



Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.

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Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.

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No, she won't

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG

"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."

The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.

Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

If [Clinton] gets the nomination, I will NOT be voting for her, no matter who she's running against.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Didn't see one, so here it is.

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

Huge turnouts. A small-donor campaign fund. A reputation for consistency and decency. A truly progressive agenda.

I think he'll rout Hillary and become our next president. He also beats Trump by a larger margin than Hillary in the polls.

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How do you view him defeating his greatest opponent - the MainStreamMedia?
They cannot back him over Hilliary.
So how does he pull it off? Even if he gets more delegates, Hilliary will still be annointed the winner.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG

"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."

The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.

Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
SGG

"Yes, he has addressed fixing the country's infrastructure. Bravo! But the president has addressed this almost from the beginning of his time in office, yet nothing has been done."

The difference between Bernie and Obama, or Bernie and Hillary, is that Bernie's been walking his talk for a long, long time. His record and his rhetoric are consistent.

Now, whether he'll be able to get anything done is a different question. But I think his intentions are beyond doubt.

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SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.

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If Bernie WINS, it's a fair guess to say that the Dems would also gain seats in Congress, leading to a better possibility of things getting done.



Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:

Either the GOP will slowly fade into the sunset, or, you will see the formation of the Independent Party.......Heaven help us!

Maybe both will happen. Please Lord, let Trump win!


SGG

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Bernie is a grumpy, dogmatic scold. And his policies - and his presentation (see grumpy, dogmatic scold) - leave many Americans feeling unsettled, rather than hopeful and energized. That he's doing as well as he is is an indictment of Hillary, who I think should have otherwise been a shoe-in for the democratic nomination.

Though my hopes are for Bernie, I think Hillary will get the nomination.

If she gets the nomination, I will NOT be voting for her, no matter who she's running against.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Winning Michigan last night, in spite of polling predictions that he'd lose by 20%, has shown that Sanders' campaign is growing stronger by the day.

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Just like he is getting more youthful looking and, any day now in order to win the general election, will be embracing Christ and throwing aside his Judaism/atheism/socialism.

here are a few exit poll results from Michigan:

Sanders won union households 49-47 percent.

Clinton won voters who think the economy is the most important issue by 51-48 percent.

Among voters who think trade with other countries takes away US jobs, Sanders won 58-41 percent.

Among voters worried about the economy, Clinton won 50-48 percent.

Sanders won a convincing victory among voters who think trade takes away US jobs. But more generally, voters concerned about the economy broke pretty evenly.

The bigger story, perhaps, is that Sanders won a whopping 83 percent of voters under 30. That's a fifth of the electorate. He also won a respectable 31 percent of the black vote. In both cases, this is better than he usually does.

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Sanders didn't campaign too hard in the southern states. He was never going to do well there. Establishment dems, black religious voters who really like the Clintons, Democratic machine workings and just a touch of anti-semitism meant he would choke there even if he tried.

Michigan was different. He actually organized and spent a little money, and voila.

The Bubba vote is all counted. It's on to the blue and purple states, now. The media, of course, just ignore him and fawns over Trump and Clinton.

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
You know, I'm all for the little guy finally getting a break in this country. Minimum wage, health care, etc. But Bernie sounds more and more
like a broken record. All he continues to say is "Wall Street, Billionaires
and fixed economy."

Granted, those things matter and are part of the landscape, but the country's problems run much deeper than that. Couldn't he at least acknowledge and address some of the other issues facing the American people. Not all will be fixed by changing the economic structure of this
country. I really don't think he's aware of all that is going on here.


SGG

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Which issue, that you're concerned about, has he not addressed?



Find here the Serenity you seek. -Tara Maclay

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However, my objection to Sanders still stands: He's pretty much down-the-line supporter of DEMOCRAT'S wars of choice...

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I like Bernie. I like his policies - he wants to focus on the domestic front, and help reduce some of the squeeze on the middle class, including up and coming members of the middle class who are struggling against the current economic climate and college debt. He is the only one talking about campaign finance reform and corruption. I trust him more than Hillary, and a lot more than Trump.

I have mixed feelings though. I am not afraid of the sort of mixed economy he promotes, but I am concerned how far reaching policies which consolidate can be used by the power hungry and perpetuated even with the pendulum swinging between parties, like the PATRIOT Act. I don't know how economic and social welfare policies can look in the hands of the power hungry when misused, but I can't imagine it's pretty.

Bernie has pie in the sky dreams that I am not sure how he intends to put into action. It's basically going to be up to his advisors, who may help him or screw him over, and it's going to be up to congress, which can take a good idea and tack on so many additions that it will look like an abomination, no matter which party is the majority.

I'm also unsure about what will happen with Israel with Bernie, but then every candidate feels the pressure from that corner.

Part of me thinks Bernie is the best chance we have for someone not corrupt and insane in the office. Part of me thinks even if we do elect him (or even Trump), it won't matter, because it's other factors that are controlling the future of our society.

And part of me thinks despite the recent wins, and despite me wanting to see more wins from Bernie, he doesn't have a chance, and even back when campaigning started I'm not sure he ever did. I don't think he can steal the candidacy from Hillary. And even if he did, there's factors in Bernie's policies that aren't going to fly well with a lot of Republicans and conservative independents looking for an alternative to Trump.

I think this election is going to be a debacle no matter what happens, and that other countries are looking at us and either laughing, or feeling completely terrified, maybe both.

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Sometimes I wonder.
At what point will the history books decide: THAT was the first insane President.

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Sometimes I wonder.
At what point will the history books decide: THAT was the first insane President.

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If trump wins, it'll be this year.

Others have been crappy, and even downright evil, but Trump is a certifiable narcissist.

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Originally posted by BYTEMITE:
I think we've always given Presidents a lot of leeway in not calling them insane when they were. I mean Lincoln's wife used to do seances in the whitehouse for their dead son and Lincoln allowed it.

But if you ask me, I think the first president we will publicly recognize as insane will be an as yet unknown crazy cat lady.

The secret service will perform security detail for all 50 of them, and the UN meetings where she throws her pets at other world leaders will be a hoot.

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Those same things were said about Slick Willy, the First Black President - and also Obama, the Second Black President.

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Those same things were said about Slick Willy, the First Black President - and also Obama, the Second Black President.

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Ok, maybe Jill Stein's is slightly better. A curiosity, Signym: Of all the time you've been on this planet, who(m) is your favorite or least bad presidential candidate?

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After the Clark County Democratic Convention, Bernie Sanders has flipped his close Nevada caucus loss to a win at the convention stage. The Sanders campaign pulled out a victory in Nevada’s most populous county at this weekend’s convention at the Cashman Center in Las Vegas.

Las Vegas Sun reporter Megan Messerly confirmed the final delegate count, showing Sanders had flipped Clark County in his favor.

After realignment: 2,386 Clinton, 2,964 Sanders, & 7 uncommitted. 5,357 total.

— Megan Messerly (@meganmesserly) April 3, 2016

The other most populous county, Washoe County, ended with 1050 delegates for Sanders and 833 for Clinton. It is unclear at this time exactly how many more delegates Bernie Sanders has picked up, as the final results will not be decided until the state convention in May.

The Clark County Democratic Convention was full of controversy from the beginning. But to give the full context of the controversy, it’s important to understand how the convention process works.

Delegates come in three forms:

* Elected delegates, which were selected at precinct caucuses.
* Alternate delegates, which were also named at the precinct caucuses,
* And unelected alternate delegates, who can become official delegates in the event a precinct’s elected delegates or alternate delegates don’t show.

The Credentials Committee for the Clark County Democratic Convention determines who exactly qualifies as a bona fide delegate in the event an unelected alternate steps in to become an official delegate. The committee is made up of four members appointed by Clark County Democratic Party Chair Chris Miller, with two representatives for Hillary Clinton and two representatives for Bernie Sanders in the interest of fairness.

On Friday night, accusations of cheating came from both sides, which resulted in the attempted removal of credential committee chair Christine Kramar.

“We caught the Hillary campaign cheating, we caught the Nevada Democratic Party secretary cheating,” said Angie Sullivan, another member of the credentials committee for the Clark County Democratic Convention. “When it was apparent Bernie started winning, they really turned up the heat.”

Sullivan alleges that the Clark County Democratic Party (CCDP) was sharing information with the Hillary Clinton campaign that was not being shared with the Bernie Sanders campaign, and this is why Kramer copied a Sanders campaign contact on an email correspondence with CCDP officials and Clinton campaign officials.

However, Clinton campaign attorney Marc E. Elias told a different story in a threatening email sent to CCDP Chair Chris Miller. Elias ordered Miller to remove Kramar from the credentials committee due to her sharing allegedly proprietary information belonging to the Clinton campaign with the Sanders campaign.

But Kristal Glass, a Sanders delegate who was also a member of the credentials committee, told US Uncut that Kramar was simply acting as an independent arbiter in accordance with party bylaws by making sure all parties were included in conversations about the convention.

“It was her job to make sure everything was fair leading up to the Friday night early registration,” Glass said. “[Kramar] CC’d the Sanders campaign about a conversation happening that they weren’t included in, which was against the convention process.”

Then, Glass alleged that Michelle White, political director for Hillary Clinton’s Nevada campaign, was pressuring volunteers at the registration site to register alternates as delegates.

“We had a member of a campaign walking around with a computer showing volunteers, saying, ‘They’re approved, so go ahead and add them,'” Glass told US Uncut. “It has to be brought to the credentials committee to vet the entire thing, that’s what our responsibility is.”

“You don’t change the rules at the 11th hour to favor your candidate,” Sullivan said.

After Kramar reminded the Clinton campaign and CCDP officials of the party bylaws, all hell broke loose when CCDP officials attempted to act on the orders received from Marc Elias to remove Kramar as chair by calling an executive session.

“The Sanders campaign attorney came by and told Christine, ‘They had some meetings about you and they’re going to remove you,’ they said they didn’t like her tone, and all of these excuses, and it was just lies to get the delegate count their way,” Glass said. “They wanted all the people who came to the caucus as alternates so they could be converted over.”

Video recorded by Angie Sullivan shows the entirety of the attempted meeting, which didn’t end up occurring after sustained pressure from observers:

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