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The Illegal Aliens Facts Thread

POSTED BY: JEWELSTAITEFAN
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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:13 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


We have gobs of threads here full of BS, and scrutinizing various facets of the issue using Minimum Resolution or Focus.

Somewhere it has been pointed out that actual data is hard to come by, largely because the info is intentionally obfuscated by Washington.
I have not been able to find that discussion, with all the piles of Troll Manure spread all over.

Recently I heard an audio clip of Trump speechifying, and he mentioned some figures which I've not heard before.
He was listing some of the Crime Stats of Illegal Aliens
One figure was 4,000 Murders perpetrated. It sounded like this could mean less than 4,000 Illegals had perpetrated, but the total Body Count was over 4,000. I didn't catch how many years this spanned.
I was surprised that this figure was suddenly available. Since valid data is hidden by Deep State Liberals, the figure surely cannot be refuted.

This number can provide us with a basis for further discussion.


We don't need to rehash here why the best policy is to shovel water uphill.


So I'm hoping for help in accumulating key pertinent information and data regarding actual results of failed Immigration Policy, such as Crimes perpetrated by Illegal Aliens, number of Illegal Aliens present, captured, deported, sanctuaries, and such.

I would be interested in how many $ are spent on Mexico Border Enforcement, and detention, Court costs.

How much is spent on Illegal Aliens, like Public Schools, hospitals, other services provided to Illegal Aliens.

And how many Points of Authorized Entry there are, along with how many or what percent of Illegal Entries are happening in each segment, or at least which States?

Plus breakdown of Asylum Seekers, whether Approved or not, whether Illegal Entry or not, etc.

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:24 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

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Thursday, January 3, 2019 7:25 AM

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 2:36 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


There are many threads on people trying to cross the border that have veered off-topic into illegal aliens within the US, but this is the only thread about that topic per se.

From the LATimes:
Quote:


ICE raids spark fear, protests and questions about who will be swept up
By Molly Hennessy-Fiske, Cindy Carcamo, Matt Stiles, Andrea Castillo and Wendy Fry

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ice-raids-fear-trump-immigra
tion-20190713-story.html

Some migrant families directly in the storm’s path said they were too scared to evacuate. Balbina, 34, a Mexican immigrant who asked to be identified only by first name, has been living south of New Orleans illegally for 12 years. ... “I worry for my kids. I can try to protect them, but it’s a risk. If we go, we don’t know if we can return,” she said by phone from her home.There’s a 10 p.m. curfew in Houma, she said, but for migrants, “It’s like a curfew all the time.”

Why am I being asked to sympathize with people who've been living in the country ILLEGALLY (as per the article) FOR 12 YEARS?
And why do they keep calling them migrants throughout these articles and fail to use the proper descriptors: illegal, undocumented, aliens?
Quote:

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ice-raids-push-immigrants
-unauthorized-legal-aid-20190713-story.html

• Advance notice of ICE raids may push immigrants toward unauthorized legal help
https://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-planned-immigration-rai
ds-20190711-story.html

• Trump’s threatened ICE raids could hearten his base, and terrify immigrants
Currently, there are about 1 million immigrants with final removal orders.




So.... About this "Caravan"
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=62745&p=1

The Government Is Detaining and Interrogating Journalists and Advocates at the US-Mexico Border
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62986






And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?
tic tac

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 4:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Thanks for bumping the thread.


SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP. Hmmmmmm. The past few months would have been pretty good time to do that, and then now is a busy time again. drat.

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:22 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
SOMEBODY has started this thread, and then forgot to construct it or finish the OP.

HA HA HA Ha ha ha ... !

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Saturday, July 13, 2019 5:23 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

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Monday, July 15, 2019 5:46 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Oh, btw, how are your log-in issues doing?

I remember January. Ambitious, then got busy. Never caught back up before login problems further strangled my post production.
No improvement on login front. I'm told that I must buy a new phone to be able to login again. The same one I've had for a couple years now. Since none of the other "solutions" have worked, and I don't know details of what failure codes there are, I'm not planning to waste that cash really soon. The problem has something to do with google or Android, or so I am told.


Some of the facets of this thread are mentioned in this other thread:
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=62901

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Tuesday, July 16, 2019 3:07 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Oh that's too bad!

FWIW my carrier decided to change their communication 'handling' software resulting in lots of fun! (not) At least they sent a warning that some functions on some phones would no longer work.

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Monday, July 29, 2019 3:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not U.S. for this story, but it seems Germany is plagued by Serbs and Iritreans murderers pushing German citizens into oncoming trains, including children.


https://ca.news.yahoo.com/boy-eight-killed-being-pushed-114524220.html

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Wednesday, October 16, 2019 2:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


A slight detour from the OP.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/u-k-tourists-arrested-driving-223512536.html

Couple from Uk apply for admission to U.S. and are denied. So then they enter Canada, and illegally cross into America from B.C. into Washington. So they get caught by Border Patrol, and BP tries to re-enter them to Canada. But Canada refuses re-entry for this criminal couple. So BP tries to contact the UK Embassy, with apparent no success. So then BP turns them over to ICE, and the couple gets transferred to detention facility in Pennsylvania.
For this excitement, they brought along their infant child - and crossed illegally with another couple and their twins, all 7 from UK.

So now their are whining about being mistreated.

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Saturday, February 15, 2020 4:50 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not exactly what I started this threa for, but locally there has been whining in the press.

The subject is Trump supposedly demanding deportation of Hmong back to Laos.

Because the local usual Libtard suspects collaborating with the Fake News locally is what I'm seeing, I suspect what is happening is:
1. Trump wants to deport Hmong who are criminals - and they are very violent. Particularly if they are not citizens.
2. Local Libtards are trying to confuse the issue by saying Trump wants to deport law-abiding Hmong.
3. With the Fake News working to gin up ratings or fervor, they are hiding the facts, or just not laying out what the actual wording is from the Trump folks.

If the Hmong here for 45 years have not become citizens, then that is one issue.
If Hmong criminals are going to be deported, I wholly agree with that plan. Laos is not the land of sunshine like Wisconsin is.

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Saturday, February 15, 2020 7:19 PM

JONGSSTRAW


"Don't fuck with the Hmong. Their dumplings are to die for!" ….. Clint Eastwood

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Wednesday, February 26, 2020 7:37 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Not finding the right thread for this at the moment, so I'll park it here for now.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/sanctuary-cities-funding-donald-trum
p-appeals-court/2018/08/01/id/874952
/
Appeals Court says Judge cannot block Trump's defunding of Sanctuary Cities.

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Wednesday, February 26, 2020 8:24 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Not finding the right thread for this at the moment, so I'll park it here for now.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/sanctuary-cities-funding-donald-trum
p-appeals-court/2018/08/01/id/874952
/
Appeals Court says Judge cannot block Trump's defunding of Sanctuary Cities.




Good.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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