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No way!!: Surgical Robot "Spirals Out Of Control", Kills Man As Docs Sipped Lattes

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Friday, November 16, 2018 8:54 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


r u effing kidding me???

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In the name of scientific “progress,” Newcastle’s Freeman Hospital in the United Kingdom recently tried to pioneer the use of a surgical robot that it tasked with repairing a patient’s damaged heart valve, only to have the machine go completely bonkers and ultimately kill the man on the operating table.

According to reports, this first-time-use robot not only physically assaulted a living medic while attempting to conduct its programmed surgery, but also implanted stitches into the patient’s heart in a manner that physicians present during the fiasco described as notbeing in “an organised fashion.”

A situation that can only be described as total chaos, with human surgeons, doctors, and nurses having to scream at each other in order to overcome the “tinny” sound coming from the robot as they were trying to control it, the attempted surgery ended up being nothing short of a complete failure. And in the end, retired music teacher and conductor, Stephen Pettitt, the guinea pig patient in this medical experiment, ultimately lost his life.

Lead surgeon admits that he was ill-prepared to operate the surgical robot, having skipped multiple training sessions

During a hearing that followed this catastrophe, lead surgeon Sukumaran Nair admitted that he lacked proper experience in controlling and using the surgical robot, stating that he was “running before he could walk.” In other words, it was truly a case of medical negligence and malpractice on steroids.

As later revealed by the U.K.’s Daily Mail Online, Nair not only missed a critical training session in Paris that would have taught him how to properly use the surgical robot, but he also wasn’t present for another training sessions that later took place at his own hospital, claiming that he was busy with another surgery at the time.

While supervisory experts were supposed to have been present for this surgery-gone-wrong, which should have prevented this type of nightmare from ever even occurring, they, too, were reportedly missing when things started to hit the fan.

Overseeing proctors were sipping lattes while surgical robot punctured patient’s aortic septum, splashing blood all over robot camera...

According to Thasee Pillay, Nair’s assisting surgeon, these overseeing proctors had apparently “gone to the coffee shop” right in the middle of the procedure, which prevented them from being able to take the reins once it became clear that Pettitt’s life was at risk from the surgical robot going rogue. Pillay also stated that he had no idea that these overseers were planning on not staying throughout the entirety of the surgery.

“I had no idea of their timescale and that they were not staying for the duration,” he’s quoted as saying.

“The proctors leaving was a crucial moment. The loss of that vital assistance was a major blow at a critical time.”

At one point during the botched surgery, the surgical robot actually punctured Pettitt’s intra aortic septum, resulting in so much blood being splattered on its camera that doctors could no longer see what the robot was doing.

Nair stated during the follow-up hearing that he couldn’t effectively communicate with Pillay via the robot’s microphone system as this was happening because the sound was largely inaudible.

“We were not far apart, but Mr. Nair’s voice comes through a microphone and it is tinny,” he stated. “The acoustics were not very good.”

“There were times when I raised my voice. One was when the sutures were not being placed in an organised fashion and were criss-crossed.”

After the surgical robot improperly installed the stitches, they had to be removed and replaced by the real-life doctors who were still present, extending the surgical time and further putting Pettitt’s life at risk.

Nair later admitted that he never even informed Pettitt that there was an increased risk of complications or death from this test procedure, which represents the first time that a surgical robot has ever been used to try to perform a mitral valve repair.


https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-16/surgical-robot-spirals-out-c
ontrol-kills-man-docs-sipped-lattes



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Friday, November 16, 2018 9:04 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Saturday, November 17, 2018 4:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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Lead surgeon admits that he was ill-prepared to operate the surgical robot, having skipped multiple training sessions

Might have contributed to the situation ?

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Monday, November 19, 2018 3:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Might have contributed to the situation ?
Almost certainly. It seems to me that this was a "slow disaster" ... that things went wrong (such as bad/criss-cross suturing) earlier during surgery that were "corrected" by the human surgeon (stitches taken out and redone) but that the surgeon was committed to going forward with the machine when he should have realized that it was going haywire. If he had attended the training, or the "factory reps" were still in attendance, they might have realized much sooner that it was operating waaaay out of spec and that someone needed to pull the plug.

What I wonder about is: Why did the machine go haywire to begin with?

I'll bet that the makers of the da Vinci robot have gone over that thing's electronics, mechanics, and software. I'll bet that they have SOME idea what went wrong. It sure would be nice to know...




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Monday, November 19, 2018 3:58 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


The da Vinci robot is in wide use.

So I searched for surgical+robot+ kills+patient and got these

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Surgical robot da Vinci scrutinized by FDA after deaths, other surgical nightmares


The biggest thing in operating rooms these days is a million-dollar, multi-armed robot named da Vinci, used in nearly 400,000 surgeries nationwide last year — triple the number just four years earlier.

But now the high-tech helper is under scrutiny over reports of problems, including several deaths that may be linked with it and the high cost of using the robotic system.

There also have been a few disturbing, freak incidents: a robotic hand that wouldn't let go of tissue grasped during surgery and a robotic arm hitting a patient in the face as she lay on the operating table...

... Reports filed this year include:

— A woman who died during a 2012 hysterectomy when the surgeon-controlled robot accidentally nicked a blood vessel.

— A Chicago man who died in 2007 after spleen surgery.

— A New York man whose colon was allegedly perforated during prostate surgery. Da Vinci's maker filed that report after seeing a newspaper article about it and said the doctor's office declined to provide additional information.

— A robotic arm that wouldn't let go of tissue grasped during colorectal surgery on Jan. 14. "We had to do a total system shutdown to get the grasper to open its jaws," said the report filed by the hospital. The report said the patient was not injured.

— A robotic arm hit a patient in the face during a hysterectomy. The company filed that report, and said it is unknown if the patient was injured but that the surgeon decided to switch to an open, more invasive operation instead.


https://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/surgical-robot-scrutiniz
ed-fda-deaths-nightmares-article-1.1311447


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With da Vinci robotic surgery there are additional possible complications, including a longer operation time. This can mean that the patient may need to remain longer under anesthesia, which can be dangerous and may lead to breathing problems. A surgeon may need to decide that the patient requires a different surgical technique. Larger or additional incisions may become necessary if the robotic procedure doesn’t go as planned.

There have also been reports of much more serious complications blamed on the da Vinci system. Many patients have reported suffering burns from the system because of sparks created by the machine, as well as heat damage to organs. In some cases these injuries were not discovered for several days after the surgical procedure.

Other reports state that the machine cut patients incorrectly, in one case slicing a woman’s main artery and causing excessive bleeding that ultimately killed her. Other patients reported being hospitalized for weeks after robotic surgery because of the complications, like internal bleeding and scarring. Other reported incidents include torn organs, kidney and lung damage, infections, and equipment failure during a procedure. A study even found that there are likely more complications than are being reported.
-RECALL REPORT


https://www.recallreport.org/dangerous-drugs-products/da-vinci-robotic
-surgery
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*****

This might be somewhat like self-driving cars: When they work, they work better than people. But when they don't work, they go catastrophically wrong.



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Monday, November 19, 2018 10:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I've gotten past the fact that my old job was outsourced to India a while back. My new "joke" about it is that when I was laid off, my salary went to pay 7 people in India with Master's degrees to work in our Chennai branch. But nearly 10 years later 80% of my job doesn't even need to be done by a human being anymore.


It's sad to see that this will also be the case with the Medical field. Incidents like these will not stop technology from progressing forward, even if they lead to temporary outcry and speed bumps.

At least when they started automating all of my old job functions the worst that could happen is that they didn't get all of the financials to the FED at 2:00AM or Citibank's ledgers would be off for a day. Don't get me wrong, either of those things were a huge deal and lead to MASSIVE fines on the extremely rare occasion something went wrong and they happened (never on my watch), but at least nobody died when the robot's didn't perform as designed.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, November 19, 2018 5:45 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


We should have these robots driving semi trucks. But only among Libtard City drivers, where Libtards approve them.

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