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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 12:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:03 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


You really should try building a business all by yourself, with no customers, no roads, no supply routes, and no employees.

I bet you'd be awesome at it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 1:23 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
You really should try building a business all by yourself, with no customers, no roads, no supply routes, and no employees.

I bet you'd be awesome at it.



Much like Obama, you have no gorram clue of what you're speaking.





" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 3:49 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Except none of that ever happened.

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:47 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)






Hee hee... A funny photo thread!





"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:52 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Hee, hee, HEE!


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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:52 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:53 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:56 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:57 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:58 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 6:59 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:01 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:02 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:03 PM

STORYMARK





Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
Hee, hee, HEE!







Oh, I've got a ton of 'em! I've got a facebook account, and I'm not afraid to use it!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:04 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:05 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:07 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:08 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)




... And my new favorite:





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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:09 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:10 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:12 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)



This one is especially relevant, since Rappy seems to think that one person can build a whole company all by himself with no help from anyone at all... but then he isn't the one running it or having any say at all in what it does, and bears absolutely no responsibility for anything having to do with the company that he built and is sole owner of!





Shall I continue?


I'm barely even thru the last couple days!

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Tuesday, July 17, 2012 7:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by Storymark:



"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"





"BAAAAAAAAAANE!!!"


Bwhahahahahaha - that's awesome, Story! I'm stealing it!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:26 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Leave it to Kwickie try to completely change the issue, by posting lie after lie after lie...


SOP for the clueless Left.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Quote:

This one is especially relevant, since Rappy seems to think that one person can build a whole company all by himself with no help from anyone at all... but then he isn't the one running it or having any say at all in what it does, and bears absolutely no responsibility for anything having to do with the company that he built and is sole owner of!



One person CAN build a company all by himself. Happens every damn day. But what you're talking about and what it has to do w/ Bain Capital are two entirely different issues. No real point in even discussing it, if your intent is to deceive and lie about such things. Which clearly it is.



" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:34 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Leave it to Kwickie try to completely change the issue, by posting lie after lie after lie...





Gosh, I thought this was just a post for funny political pix, going by your initial post.

Was there supposed to be some other point to it? Was there some "issue" or topic we're all supposed to stick to that only you get to decide?

And go ahead and show your proof for your statement that I posted "lie after lie after lie," if you can. ( I already know you won't, because you can't, but it humors me to watch you flail about as you try to avoid supporting your idiotic claims...)



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:37 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

Quote:

This one is especially relevant, since Rappy seems to think that one person can build a whole company all by himself with no help from anyone at all... but then he isn't the one running it or having any say at all in what it does, and bears absolutely no responsibility for anything having to do with the company that he built and is sole owner of!



One person CAN build a company all by himself. Happens every damn day. But what you're talking about and what it has to do w/ Bain Capital are two entirely different issues. No real point in even discussing it, if your intent is to deceive and lie about such things. Which clearly it is.




Name one. Show me one company that one person built with no help from public roads, utilities, fire & police, no employees, no customers, etc.

I'll wait.

And by "no real point in discussing it," you mean you have nothing, so you'll run away like you always do. SOP for the right.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:04 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It's not possible to have a discussion w/ folks who believe lies as you do. Small business owners pay for those roads, those utilities, those fire / police protection, so it's utterly irrational to ask of anyone's built a business w/ out ANY of those existing. This is what the Left does, distorts, lies, twists the issues, so that folks believe small business owners and those who work for a living are really no different, have done nothing special, or have sacrificed no more than anyone else.

To the losers and moochers of society, I'm sure that sells. Makes them feel better about themselves, as they sit on the couch and watch endless hours of t.v., worrying who'll get voted off the island next, which gay couple will 'get it on' in Glee next, or which Ewing heir will win in their epic family feud.

Meanwhile, the real workers of this country are out doing , not talkin'.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 4:48 AM

NEWOLDBROWNCOAT


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:

Name one. Show me one company that one person built with no help from public roads, utilities, fire & police, no employees, no customers, etc.




Speaking of which, I noticed a thing here in Long Beach the other day: coffee bars and restaurants with patio serving and outdoor eating /drinking areas that not only block the sidewalk, but extend out into the street, into the parking spaces in front of their building. I thought that those areas were public right-of way, if not public property, for the use of any citizen, not just the lessee of the building, for him to take advantage of and make a profit off of. I thought that if they wanted to do that, they had to buy/lease a bigger piece of property, hence paying more for it, because they wanted to make restricted personal use of it.

Conversely, I know of an IHOP in a shopping center with an outdoor eating area, with the public sidewalk outside of it. They're obviously leasing/ buying a larger footprint, paying more for it. Unfair advantage for the coffee house guys?

I wonder if what they're doing is legal, or if the city just isn't bothering to enforce the law, and who you ask about that?

Other than that, it does sound like a good small business capitalist move: rip off something that belongs to everybody, and use it for your own personal gain and profit.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:43 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!





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" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:50 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



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Dear Ruler:

First, let me say how thrilled I am that you went off-teleprompter last week. This “If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen” thing was just wonderful. Now I know how Chris Matthews felt.
Oh .. I know. Your handlers weren’t all that thrilled with your amazing screw-up, and, frankly, they have been worried this day was coming for a long time. They know how you feel about the private sector. They know of your antipathy toward free enterprise and those evil small businessmen out there who are not likely to support your move to a government centrally-controlled economy. They had hoped to keep your true feelings in check with those teleprompters … but nooooooooo … you just had to improvise, didn’t you? You just had to wander off the tightly-controlled rhetorical reservation. Well, thank you. You certainly didn’t gain any significant voter support with that asinine utterance, but you most certainly did lose some.

Now we’re having fun watching and listening to your sycophants trying to defend your “somebody else made that happen” line. Somehow they have to make your blunder sound marginally reasonable. Apparently they’ve had a meeting somewhere, because they’re all running with pretty much the same message. It was the government that built the roads those trucks travel on to bring stuff to your business for you to sell. It was the government that built those utility systems that keep your offices cool and the water clean. They really love that quote from Henry Ford about not being able to build his cars if the government had not built those roads.

Well guess what, Dear Ruler. We built that stuff too. Not government --- the private sector – America’s evil private businesses.

Get in Marine One, Obama, and fly off to visit a road construction project. Look at those graders, rollers and the machines that lay the asphalt. See those logos on the doors? Those logos are for private construction firms. Those workers in yellow vests? Their paychecks and benefits are coming from private businesses – many of them the very small businesses you want to hit with tax increases.
Next you can fly off to take a look at a utility project somewhere. Maybe you can find a sewer line being laid, or some electrical transmission lines being strung. Again – those are private companies doing that work with private sector workers.

You see, there’s a document out there that, frankly, I doubt you have ever read. It’s called The Declaration of Independence. I’m sure there’s a copy around your office somewhere. But I do want to save you a bit of trouble here -- knowing you busy you are fundamentally transforming American and all -- so I’ll provide you with a little excerpt from that document:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —


There! Do you see that? That government you’re so enamored of … that government you credit with Americas greatness … well, to paraphrase one of our presidents, “You didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.” That’s right, Dear Ruler, somebody else made that government happen .. and that somebody else is US. The government is OURS. We built it. We hire the people to run it. We have regular meetings every two years or so to decide whether we want to keep those managers or get rid of them to find better talent. Those roads .. our national infrastructure? We HIRED the government to build those things for us, just as we hire contractors to build our business locations and to design and manufacture the equipment we will use in the course of our businesses. We created this government – the government did not create us – and we contract with this government to do things for us on a grand scale because we recognize the inefficiencies of trying to do those things for ourselves. Government is just another contractor we hire to get our private business done.

But hold on a minute, Ruler Obama. There’s something else I want you to read before you put this letter down. You see, I didn’t include the whole quote from The Declaration of Independence above. I left something off … and here it is …
---That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Maybe it’s just me, but I’m of the opinion that when our elected leaders become so enamored of themselves, and of the government we have hired them to manage, they become a grave danger to those unalienable rights set forth in The Declaration – you know, the rights to Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. The Declaration says we may “pursue” happiness. It does not guarantee it. You and the party you represent seem to think that happiness is a right, and have created a government that has now become destructive of the very ends it was designed to support.

There’s more than one way to alter or abolish at government, Ruler Obama. We’ll give one of them a good old college try in November.

Again .. thanks for your incursion into extemporaneous speech. We’ve learned a lot from and about you in the last week.

With all DUE Respect.

Neal Boortz.




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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 6:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Mike's right; if you start a thread with a snarky picture to make your point, you can't complain about others responding with same.

As to the supposed point the initial photo is trying to make, it's a lie, pure and simple.
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Conservatives have been jumping on comments President Obama made in Roanoke, Va., in which he said “if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.”

As an example, read what the Heritage Foundation posted at its blog that the comment was a “slap in the face to hard-working Americans conveyed Obama’s belief that it takes a village – a heavily subsidized village – to create that venture you’re profiting from.”

A Romney campaign spokeswoman told Fox the comment was “insulting” to small business owners.

The president’s argument, which is similar to one made by Massachusetts Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren, revolves around the idea that business people need the infrastructure provided by the government in order to succeed.

Here’s the context of what he said:
Quote:

You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something – there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.

If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business. you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/did-obama-say-if-youve-go
t-a-business-you-didnt-build-that/
took that one sentence and ran with it, as all your right-wing buddies have done. Sure, you can parse that one sentence all you like, but that doesn't make it true. It's what's done in politics every day, by all sides. To try and make a valid point with it is completely irrelevant.

The left, for example, has taken "Corporations are people, my friend" out of context, without adding what he said afterwards: “Of course they are,” Romney said. “Everything corporations earn ultimately goes to people. Where do you think it goes?” That changes it a bit, but not much. They've also taken "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me," without adding the rest of what he said: "You know, if someone doesn't give me a good service that I need, I want to say, 'I'm going to go get someone else to provide that service to me.'"That DOES change the validity of his inital comment.

Now, intelligent people understand that's just politics and every side does it. But those who want a talking point ignore that and make a big deal out of one unfortunate sentence. On the other hand, Romney taking "If we talk about the economy, we'll lose" is TRULY egregious, given Obama was quoting SOMEONE ELSE.

So you can argue forever about which side is "worse", but to buy into the bullshit completely merely reflects a lack of intelligence.




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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


The scree just put up is about as valid as any of the other idiocy put up by either side's extremists, and has no more meaning than that. Ergo, no response is required.

Just as an aside, let's bear in mind that when people talk about "small business", they are usually talking about the official delineation of "small business":
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Politicians often talk about "small businesses." But how small is a small business? Fifty employees? One hundred? Two hundred?

Actually, it’s often much more than that. The Small Business Administration’s Office of Advocacy defines a small business as one with fewer than 500 employees. And that’s the standard politicians often use.

In fact, by the 500-employee definition, the vast majority of all firms are "small businesses." As SBA says: 99.7 percent of the approximately 6 million businesses with employees are small businesses.

So when a politician speaks of "small businesses," it’s wise to ask: What exactly is "small"?

Footnote: The 500-employee standard used by SBA’s Office of Advocacy isn’t the only official definition of "small." For purposes of qualifying for federal programs, the legal standard varies by industry. For example, for cookie and cracker makers the standard is 750 workers, and firms engaged in manufacturing breakfast cereal or specialty canning can employ up to 1,000 workers and still qualify. A "small" oil refiner can employ up to 1,500. And many industries have no limit on the number of workers, so long as their average dollar receipts stay within a set limit. A "small" chicken or egg producer can take in an average of $12.5 million a year and still qualify as "small" under SBA guidelines, for example.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/08/whats-a-small-business/ important to keep in mind what they're REALLY saying when politicians toss out that "small business" rhetoric. In truth,
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Three of every four "small business" contracts awarded by the U.S. government go to the likes of Apple, Chevron and GE.

In the last fiscal year, 72 of the federal government’s top 100 small business contractors were some of the world’s largest companies. Research by both the American Small Business League and the SBA’s Inspector General found that Apple, Chevron, Shell, General Motors, General Electric, Coca Cola, Bank of America and 65 other giant companies got these contracts.

One of the problems is a loophole in how the government awards contracts that contain multiple industrial codes. As it now stands, a company can identify itself as small on individual task orders for a contract even though it doesn’t meet the correct size criteria. That's because small businesses bought by large companies can qualify as “small” for contracting purposes for years after being purchased. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/advisor/really-gets-uncle-sams-small-15
4902005.html
would be good to keep that in mind when we hear the "small business" bullshit. Just to remind you all.



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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:58 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Niki, it's NOT a 'lie', and THAT is pure and simple.

You may not LIKE the facts as they are, but you disagreeing with reality doesn't make something a " lie ".

You REALLY really need to grow up.


" We're all just folk. " - Mal

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 8:32 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


You know what, Raptor? YOU really need to give up on the "childish", "grow up" and all that bullshit. The attempt to minimize those who disagree with you by calling them children has long lost any value it ever had, it's predictable and very, very silly. It's an attempt at schoolyard bullying, nobody takes it seriously (if they ever did), and just sounds so lame it's beyond pathetic. I stopped responding to you long ago, and only read your posts sometimes out of bored amusement, because I already know what they will be and they're SO predictably ridiculous that's all they're good for.

Troll away, my man, and enjoy yourelf, but the only people who'll pay attention to you are those who get a kick out of reeling you in, which long ago ceased to have any interest for me. You should get a new "schtick", the old one lost its value ages ago.

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 11:53 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Ayn Rand must have been... No, she WAS a prophet.

From Atlas Shrugged :

“He didn’t invent iron ore and blast furnaces, did he?”

“Who?”

“Rearden. He didn’t invent smelting and chemistry and air compression. He couldn’t have invented his Metal but for thousands and thousands of other people. His Metal! Why does he think it’s his? Why does he think it’s his invention? Everybody uses the work of everybody else. Nobody ever invents anything.”

She said, puzzled, “But the iron ore and all those other things were there all the time. Why didn’t anybody else make that Metal, but Mr. Rearden did?”



First published in 1957...





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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:04 PM

STORYMARK


Quote:

Originally posted by Niki2:
You know what, Raptor? YOU really need to give up on the "childish", "grow up" and all that bullshit. The attempt to minimize those who disagree with you by calling them children has long lost any value it ever had, it's predictable and very, very silly. It's an attempt at schoolyard bullying, nobody takes it seriously (if they ever did), and just sounds so lame it's beyond pathetic. I stopped responding to you long ago, and only read your posts sometimes out of bored amusement, because I already know what they will be and they're SO predictably ridiculous that's all they're good for.



He really has a pretty limited toolbox, that he uses over and over. Don't forget, in addition to the childish language you note, you have his go-to dismissals like "it's what you do" and the like, and the basic rhetorical strategies he falls back on over and over - like saying it's useless to debate anytime someone actually debates him.

You could probably write a program that samples the Rush/Hannity talking points for the day, and is limited to that base phraseology, and create a completely autonomous Raptor chat-bot.

Maybe that's what he is to begin with?


Note to anyone - Please pity the poor, poor wittle Rappyboy. He's feeling put upon lately, what with all those facts disagreeing with what he believes.

"Goram it kid, let's frak this thing and go home! Engage!"

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 12:33 PM

AURAPTOR

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...The post above ^

is exactly the sort of childishness of which I speak.

Name calling, total dismissing of the subject matter, to prattle mindless on about my intellect, motives, talk radio listening habits...

*yawn*


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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:29 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by AURaptor:

Ayn Rand must have been... No, she WAS a prophet.




Actually, she was on Social Security and Medicare. Fuckin' socialist leech!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:33 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
It's not possible to have a discussion w/ folks who believe lies as you do. Small business owners pay for those roads, those utilities, those fire / police protection, so it's utterly irrational to ask of anyone's built a business w/ out ANY of those existing. This is what the Left does, distorts, lies, twists the issues, so that folks believe small business owners and those who work for a living are really no different, have done nothing special, or have sacrificed no more than anyone else.




That sounds dangerously close to an endorsement of "socialism", dear.

Quote:


To the losers and moochers of society, I'm sure that sells. Makes them feel better about themselves, as they sit on the couch and watch endless hours of t.v....



How many endless hours have you wasted watching and rewatching "Firefly", exactly? Are you a loser and moocher? By your own definitions, you must be.

Quote:

... worrying who'll get voted off the island next, which gay couple will 'get it on' in Glee next, or which Ewing heir will win in their epic family feud.

Meanwhile, the real workers of this country are out doing , not talkin'.





... he said on the internet... So you're definitely NOT a "real worker", right? Seeing as you've got so much time to spend here, you couldn't possibly have any kind of real job, right?


It's just so easy to get you to put your foot in your mouth, even when your head's up your ass! You are a human pretzel.



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"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:52 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I post less here than you do, Kwickie. I guess you have even a less of a real job than I do , huh?

Probably on welfare.


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Friday, July 20, 2012 4:56 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I post less here than you do, Kwickie. I guess you have even a less of a real job than I do , huh?



Really? Are you sure you post here less than I do? Is that a "claim" or a "fact"?

As for the "real job" bit, that was your claim; I never claimed that "losers" were doing nothing but sitting around watching TV, you did.

Quote:


Probably on welfare.



Nope, sorry to disappoint, but I've never collected welfare. No food stamps, no unemployment, no disability. I work, I pay my taxes, and unlike you and Mittens, I don't whine about doing so.


By the way, Romney says that Obama is correct - you didn't build your business all by your lonesome; you had help from government. It's a thing called "infrastructure". You've probably never heard of it.



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Friday, July 20, 2012 5:00 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK






Actually, I think this captioned photo speaks the truth, though I don't think it was the truth that Rap meant to convey.

If a tree falls in the woods and nobody is there to hear it fall, does it make a sound?

If somebody starts a business, unless they're federally funded, do they stand to make a dime if nobody wants to buy their product?

That's how I read it....

Support your local businesses. The Demoncrats and Rethugs won't do shit for them in the long run....

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book

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Friday, July 20, 2012 3:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)





http://www.thomhartmann.com/bigpicture/republican-lie-about-self-made-
myth




"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

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Monday, July 23, 2012 10:35 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Quote:

... worrying who'll get voted off the island next, which gay couple will 'get it on' in Glee next, or which Ewing heir will win in their epic family feud.

Meanwhile, the real workers of this country are out doing , not talkin'.

What I find sadly amusing about this is the vast, huge number of Americans who do their jobs for 8 hours, then go home and do precisely what Raptor described, sit around watching TV and thinking about little else--PLUS spending far too much time at the water cooler DISCUSSING those things with fellow workers. Of course, they're FAR better human beings than those who've lost their jobs of 20 or 30 years after working hard all those years, and have been unable to find work because they're too old, there are no jobs in their industry any more, or who've had to take menial jobs just to get by even WITH assistance. Obviously the latter are moochers, obviously.

Raptor is nothing but a deliberately-blind partisan who will repeat whatever he hears that sounds good to him and renforces his own prejudices.


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Monday, July 23, 2012 6:25 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What I find hilarious in the whole "You didn't make that happen" circus is Romney trying to capitalize on it while also trying to claim that he DIDN'T make Bain happen, and he didn't build that, and he had nothing to do with it, and he wasn't even there when he was there!



"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:46 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Infrastructure , built and paid for , not by govt ( which has nothing it doesn't take from the people, by force ) but by we the people. But it's a straw man to claim that no one builds a business on their own. It's the individual who risks their own money, puts in their own time, uses their own brains and sweat to ...yes, BUILD their own business. That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

This class war fare gig of Obama's is what some saw wrong with this guy for a long time. Now everyone sees what he's about. Or at least, enough see to vote his ass out come November.


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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:05 AM

1KIKI

Today, scientists sound the alarm on other environmental dangers. Vested interests still hire their own scientists to confuse the issue. But in the end, nature will not be fooled. Neil deGrasse Tyson


I'm hoping someone can unscramble little Rappy's VERY confused posting for me (which I've included here since it's so embarrassing I can't help but think he's gonna 'do something' to it).

Infrastructure , built and paid for , not by govt ( which has nothing it doesn't take from the people, by force ) but by we the people. But it's a straw man to claim that no one builds a business on their own. It's the individual who risks their own money, puts in their own time, uses their own brains and sweat to ...yes, BUILD their own business. That's what we WANT,people working HERE, and not over seas, isn't it?

This class war fare gig of Obama's is what some saw wrong with this guy for a long time. Now everyone sees what he's about. Or at least, enough see to vote his ass out come November.


SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.

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Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:10 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I see 1kiki has resorted to the Kwickie style of posting on here, which is to simply repeat everything I say.




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