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Friday, December 12, 2008 3:42 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Aries rocket can't reach Earth orbit, can't even get off the launch pad, much less land men on the Moon "again".



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Obama Clashes With NASA Moon Program



The space agency's transition to an Obama presidency is not going smoothly, and the future of the moon program is uncertain.

NASA Administrator Michael Griffin is not playing nice with the Obama transition team, according to a post by Robert Block of the Orlando Sentinel. He reports that Griffin is resisting efforts by former NASA associate administrator Lori Garver, who heads Obama's space transition team, to "look under the hood" of the space program. Griffin has also reportedly instructed aerospace industry representatives to say only good things about NASA's plans for returning humans to the moon.

The current program calls for retiring the space shuttle in 2010 and sending the yet-to-be-built Ares I rocket and Orion capsule to the moon by 2020. But as Block reports elsewhere in the Sentinel, Ares is in serious trouble. It may not be powerful enough to boost Orion into orbit, and engineers are concerned that the rocket may crash into its support tower during liftoff.

Some engineers are recommending that Ares be canceled, and Garver's team has inquired about how much money could be saved by doing so. Even if the Obama administration chooses to stay the course on Ares, there is little doubt that change is coming to NASA.

www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2008-12/chicago-we-
have-problem




NASA moon rocket may shake too much

Issue not expected to delay goal of returning astronauts to moon by 2020.

NASA is wrestling with a potentially dangerous problem in a spacecraft, this time in a moon rocket that hasn't even been built yet.

Engineers are concerned that the new rocket meant to replace the space shuttle and send astronauts on their way to the moon could shake violently during the first few minutes of flight, possibly destroying the entire vehicle.

"They know it's a real problem," said Carnegie Mellon University engineering professor Paul Fischbeck, who has consulted on risk issues with NASA in the past. "This thing is going to shake apart the whole structure, and they've got to solve it."

Senior managers were told of the findings last fall, but NASA did not talk about them publicly until the AP filed a Freedom of Information Act request earlier this month and the watchdog Web site NASA Watch submitted detailed engineering-oriented questions.

The response to those questions, given to both NASA Watch and AP, were shared with outside experts, who judged it a serious problem.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22735324/




Josh Poet of UFOetry with moonwalker Col Buzz Aldrin of Apollo 11

We Never Went to the Moon music video by UFOetry and Pirate News
http://uncutvideo.aol.com/videos/4cfa977228dd2f645052f1e15f09f131?inde
x=0

www.piratenews.org/hollywood.html
www.ufoetry.com


Missing Lunar Orbiter Tapes Surface at McDonalds
www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=35091&m=642567


"And don't ride on anything with a Capissen 38 engine, they fall right out of the sky."
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Friday, December 12, 2008 4:55 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


OLD 'News'...

Ares 'rocket' , for the 'peaceful' exploration of space , was named for a war god...

There's an oddity...

It was known as 'The Big Stick' in the early days , despite the availability of much better designs that would require fewer changes to existing infrastructure...

The vibration and harmonics issues have been well-known and understood for years...

Which begs the question : Was it designed to fail from its inception ?

And , who exactly is being 'stuck' with the 'Big Stick' ?

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Friday, December 12, 2008 4:58 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Lori Garver seems to have gotten the big-head since leaving NSS for NASA...Diplomacy could be made to go a long way...

Meanwhile , the cargo-only variant 'Shuttle-C' boilerplate mockup has been rusting in a Huntsville scrapyard for Years...

http://www.astronautix.com/gallery/lshttlec.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuttle-C

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1989pst..rept..383L

http://altairvi.blogspot.com/2008/09/shuttle-c-presentation-to-synthes
is.html










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Friday, December 12, 2008 6:25 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


There IS A Better Way :

'The Jupiter design would also require two separate launches to get to the moon, but its rockets would both rely on a shuttle external tank at their center. Some of the design concepts go back to proposals floated at Marshall in the early 1980s. Others date to the early '90s, when Marshall worked on a new rocket system that never flew.

Besides being a simpler, more powerful system, backers say, the Jupiter rockets would save NASA $19 billion in development costs and another $16 billion in operating costs over two decades.

The Government Accountability Office last year raised questions about the cost of NASA's current plan for returning to the moon, which a report estimated at $230 billion over 20 years. NASA said it already has spent about $7 billion on Ares.

Steve Metschan, an engineer and former NASA contractor who supports the Jupiter team, said the upcoming presidential election could change NASA's plan. He accused NASA of suppressing information that shows Jupiter would perform better than Ares.

"Our concern is that by the time everyone figures this out, we will have destroyed our heavy-lift system," said Metschan, of Seattle. "At the end of the day, all we're asking for is an independent review of all this stuff."'

http://www.space.com/news/ap-080714-alternative-moon-rocket.html

http://www.directlauncher.com/ 'Safer , Simpler , Sooner'






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Saturday, December 13, 2008 6:47 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


NASA, brought to you by the same folks who gave you the $8.5-Trillion Bankster Bailout Bill and Project Paperclip...


Aries action with Shuttle Challenger - Note capsule falling without smoke

"Obviously a major malfunction. We have no downlink.
We have a report from the Flight Dynamics Officer that the vehicle has exploded."
-Steve Nesbitt, NASA public affairs

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TRANSCRIPT OF THE CHALLENGER CREW COMMENTS FROM THE OPERATIONAL RECORDER

(NASA: Throttle up to 104% after maximum dynamic pressure.)

T+58..............PLT..... Throttle up.

T+59..............CDR..... Roger.

T+60..............PLT..... Feel that mother go.

T+60............ Woooohoooo.

T+1:02............PLT..... Thirty-five thousand going through one point five

(NASA: Altitude and velocity report, 35,000 ft., 1.5 Mach).

T+1:05............CDR..... Reading four eighty six on mine.

(NASA: Routine airspeed indicator check.)

T+1:07............PLT..... Yep, that's what I've got, too.

T+1:10............CDR..... Roger, go at throttle up.

(NASA: SSME at 104 percent.)

T+1:13............PLT..... Uhoh.



T+1:15 (M) What happened? What happened? Oh God, no - no!

T+1:17 (F) Oh dear God.

T+1:18 (M) Turn on your air pack. Turn on your air...

T+1:20 (M) Can't breathe... choking...

T+1:21 (M) Lift up your visor!

T+1:22 (F) ...hot. (Sobs.) I can't. Don't tell me... (M) God! Do it...

T+1:24 (M) I told them... I told them... Dammit! Resnik don't...

T+1:27 (M) Take it easy! Move (unintelligible)...

T+1:28 (F) (unintelligible) ...die like this. Not now. Not here...

T+1:31 (M) Your arm... no... I (extended garble, static)

T+1:36 (F) I'm... passing... out...

T+1:37 (M) (unintelligible) ...not dead yet.

T+1:40 (M) If you ever wanted... (unintelligible) ...me a miracle...

(unintelligible)...(screams)

T+1:41 (M) She's... she's... (garble) ... damn!

T+1:50 (M) Can't breathe...

T+1:51 (M/F) Jesus Christ! No!

T+1:54 (M) She's out.

T+1:55 (M) Lucky... (unintelligible).

T+1:56 (M) God. The water... we're dead! (screams)

T+2:00 (F) Goodbye (sobs)... (unintelligible)..

T+2:03 (M) Loosen up... loosen up...

T+2:07 (M) It'll just be like a ditch landing...

T+2:09 (M) That's right, think positive.

T+2:11 (M) Ditch procedure...

T+2:14 (M) No way!

T+2:17 (M) Give me your hand...

T+2:19 (M) You awake in there? I... I...

T+2:29 (M) Our Father... (unintelligible)...

T+2:42 (M) ...hallowed be Thy name... (unintelligible).

T+2:57 (M) You...over there?

T+2:58 (M) The Lord is my shepherd, I shall... not want. He maketh me to lie down...
in green pastures... though I walk through the valley... (unintelligible) shadow of death,
(unintelligible)... I will dwell in the house...

T+3:15 Static

www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/transcript.html
www.blurofinsanity.com/challenger.html

Cause and time of death

During vehicle breakup, the crew cabin detached in one piece and slowly tumbled. NASA estimated separation forces at about 12 to 20 times the force of gravity (g) very briefly; however, within two seconds, the forces on the cabin had already dropped to below 4 g, and within ten seconds the cabin was in free fall. These forces were likely insufficient to cause major injury. At least some of the astronauts were likely alive and briefly conscious after the breakup, because three of the four Personal Egress Air Packs (PEAPs) on the flight deck were found to have been activated. Investigators found their remaining unused air supply roughly consistent with the expected consumption during the 2 minute 45 second post-breakup trajectory. Whether the astronauts remained conscious long after the breakup is unknown, and largely depends on whether the detached crew cabin maintained pressure integrity. If it did not, time of useful consciousness at that altitude is just a few seconds; the PEAPs supplied only unpressurized air, and hence would not have helped the crew to retain consciousness. The crew cabin hit the ocean surface at roughly 334 km/h (208 mph), causing an instantaneous deceleration of over 200 g, far beyond the structural limits of the crew compartment or crew survivability levels.[

During powered flight of the space shuttle, crew escape was not possible. While launch escape systems were considered several times during shuttle development, NASA's conclusion was that the shuttle's expected high reliability would preclude the need for one. Modified SR-71 Blackbird ejection seats and full pressure suits were used on the first four shuttle orbital missions, which were considered test flights, but they were removed for the operational missions that followed. Providing a launch escape system for larger crews was considered undesirable due to "limited utility, technical complexity and excessive cost in dollars, weight or schedule delays."

After the loss of Challenger the question was re-opened, and NASA considered several different options, including ejector seats, tractor rockets and bailing out through the bottom of the orbiter. However, NASA once again concluded that all of the launch escape systems considered would be impractical due to the sweeping vehicle modifications that would have been necessary and the resultant limitations on crew size.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Challenger_disaster



Space Shuttle Columbia Eulogy Song
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3734518559578754313

"The cost of each launch has turned out to be 100 times greater than originally planned. Two of the first 113 flights ended in catastrophe. The shuttle has a 1-in-56 chance of not making it back. The FAA noted that if airlines had the same accident rate as the shuttle, we would lose 40 airplanes every day."
-Chicago Tribune, Disturbing Shuttle Discoveries


"MILES, THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE AIRES PPROJECT. WE WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. WE BELIEVE IT'S SECRET PLOT THE LEADER HAS TO DESTROY THE REVOLUTIONARY MOVEMENT."

"AS FOR OUR LEADER, THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT RUSHED TO THE SCENE OF THE ACCIDENT IMMEDIATELY, BUT ALL THAT REMAINED OF HIM WAS THIS. THIS IS OUR LEADER'S NOSE. USING GREAT PRESENCE OF MIND, WE RUSHED THE NOSE TO OUR CLOSEST DELTA LABORATORY WHICH IS HERE... WHERE, THROUGH MASSIVE BIOCHEMICAL EFFORT, IT HAS BEEN KEPT ALIVE FOR NEARLY A YEAR. OUR DREAM HAS BEEN THAT BY CLONING, WE WOULD REDUPLICATE THE ENTIRE LEADER AGAIN."


SLEEPER

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 7:10 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
There IS A Better Way :

Besides being a simpler, more powerful system, backers say, the Jupiter rockets would save NASA $19 billion in development costs and another $16 billion in operating costs over two decades.

The Government Accountability Office last year raised questions about the cost of NASA's current plan for returning to the moon, which a report estimated at $230 billion over 20 years. NASA said it already has spent about $7 billion on Ares.

Steve Metschan, an engineer and former NASA contractor who supports the Jupiter team, said the upcoming presidential election could change NASA's plan. He accused NASA of suppressing information that shows Jupiter would perform better than Ares.


You don't UNDERSTAND.

The purpose of NASA and the Military Industrial Complex is to suck as much money as possible out of the taxslaves for the New World Odor.

"NASA" was the PR name change of the US Army Ballistic Missle Agency, whose purpose was the nuclear annihilation of Planet Earth, led by Nazi warcriminals.

Most of NASA's missions are fake.

All NASA really does is put space weapons in Low Earth Orbit, such as bunkerbuster steel rod that simply fall out of the sky, and GPS trackers to tax us to death.

That's why I pick on NASA, because it really does have POTENTIAL to do great things, such as educate a nation of pilots, engineers, machinists and fabricators.

Instead, NASA is used to dumbdown the sheeple, in a bankrupt nation ranked 25th in educashun and life expectancy (not counting 60-million aborticides and 60-million illiterate aliens). And deploy hunter-killer robots...

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 8:15 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


I thought the official name of NASA had been changed to mean Need Another Seven Astronauts

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Let's party like its 1929.

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:03 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by out2theblack:
There IS A Better Way :

'The Jupiter design would also require two separate launches to get to the moon, but its rockets would both rely on a shuttle external tank at their center. Some of the design concepts go back to proposals floated at Marshall in the early 1980s. Others date to the early '90s, when Marshall worked on a new rocket system that never flew.

Besides being a simpler, more powerful system, backers say, the Jupiter rockets would save NASA $19 billion in development costs and another $16 billion in operating costs over two decades.

The Government Accountability Office last year raised questions about the cost of NASA's current plan for returning to the moon, which a report estimated at $230 billion over 20 years. NASA said it already has spent about $7 billion on Ares.

Steve Metschan, an engineer and former NASA contractor who supports the Jupiter team, said the upcoming presidential election could change NASA's plan. He accused NASA of suppressing information that shows Jupiter would perform better than Ares.

"Our concern is that by the time everyone figures this out, we will have destroyed our heavy-lift system," said Metschan, of Seattle. "At the end of the day, all we're asking for is an independent review of all this stuff."'

http://www.space.com/news/ap-080714-alternative-moon-rocket.html

http://www.directlauncher.com/ 'Safer , Simpler , Sooner'




Sounds like the Jupiter too is lost in space.

Not 2 bad if lost in space with Lacy Chabert.






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Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:05 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
I thought the official name of NASA had been changed to mean Need Another Seven Astronauts


I think the death count is over 40, what they admit to.

12 died just in Apollo, on Earth.

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Saturday, December 13, 2008 3:52 PM

OUT2THEBLACK


Quote:

Originally posted by piratenews:



Sounds like the Jupiter too is lost in space.

Not 2 bad if lost in space with Lacy Chabert.




Only if Never A Straight Answer has anything to do with it...

Jupiter rocket has N.I.H. syndrome...

'Not Invented Here'...

Heck and shoot , NASA has troubles following through with good ideas that WERE invented there...

Like the X-38 space station 'lifeboat' shuttle , which the Frogs and Russkies promptly copied...



Or , Dr. Franklin Chang-Diaz''s VASIMR rocket , which was well along when they pulled the funding plug...





Didn't imagine you'd approve of Lacey...

Figured she mightn't have swum in the correct gene pool to suit you...

Zero-Gee human propogation 'studies' with her might prove to be fun , though...

She can ride my rocket , should she fancy the ultimate trip...

In other space news , Virgin Galactic's White Knight 2 mothership began low-speed taxi trials at Mojave Spaceport yesterday...

http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid4659308001/bctid46986360
01
















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Sunday, December 14, 2008 12:51 AM

FREMDFIRMA


I still think the DS1-type ion engine has a damned lot of potential, and 55 years of improvements in metallurgy and ceramics later - we really oughta revisit project WINTERHAVEN as well, if not follow up directly on the work of Townsend Brown.

-F

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Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:53 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Lawmakers Slash $670 Million From NASA Budget Request
By Amy Klamper
Space News Staff Writer
posted: 08 June 2009
10:48 am ET
http://www.space.com/news/090608-nasa-budget.html
WASHINGTON — In a move that reflects the uncertainty surrounding NASA's current strategy for replacing the space shuttle and returning astronauts to the Moon by 2020, House appropriators slashed by 16 percent the space agency's $4 billion request for manned space exploration in 2010.

The proposed legislation, marked up June 4 by the House Appropriations commerce, justice, science subcommittee, trims $483 million overall from U.S. President Barack Obama's $18.7 billion budget request for NASA next year. The $670 million cut to the 2010 manned exploration request would leave $3.21 billion, which is less than is available for the effort this year.

Rep. Alan Mollohan (D-W.Va.), the subcommittee's chairman, described the move as a "time-out" in the budget process as the White House awaits the findings of a 10-member panel tasked by the White House to reassess NASA's post-shuttle exploration plans. That panel, led by former Lockheed Martin chief Norm Augustine, is expected to report back with its findings in August.

In his opening statement at the markup hearing, Mollohan said the cut should not be viewed as a diminution of the subcommittee's support for NASA's human spaceflight activities. "Rather, it's a deferral taken without prejudice; it is a pause, a time-out, to allow the president to establish his vision for human space exploration and to commit to realistic future funding levels to realize this vision."

Mollohan told Space News June 4 he is "open to responding to an amended budget request" based on Augustine's review. Mollohan also said he expects the Obama administration to deliver to Congress a "realistic and sustainable" cost assessment of NASA's human spaceflight program in time to amend the 2010 request.

"We invite this report and the administration's response to it, whatever it is," Mollohan said.

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Thursday, July 16, 2009 2:50 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Originally posted by JaynezTown:

Lawmakers Slash $670 Million From NASA Budget Request

http://www.space.com/news/090608-nasa-budget.html



Yeah, I saw that. Didn't have the energy to post it. Pretty much the final nail in the coffin.

Quote:

Nasa experts scale back moon and Mars plans in face of Obama funding cut fears

Forty years after astronauts first walked on the moon, Nasa, the US space agency, is officially committed to a $35 billion (£22 billion) plan instituted by President George W. Bush to build the first of a new generation of manned rockets that can return to the planet by 2020.

However, the new president has appointed an independent panel to review America's costly manned space programme, called Constellation, and make recommendations by the end of August.

With Nasa engineers now floating cut-rate rocket alternatives, some politicians and former astronauts fear that the 2020 deadline will be foiled by financial constraints.

Noting a space exploration budget of six billion dollars in 2009, Senator Bill Nelson of Florida said: "Nasa simply can't do the job it's been given - the president's goal of being on the moon by 2020."

Mr Nelson, a former astronaut, bemoaned the fact that, between 2010 and 2015, the US will have no way of transporting its astronauts to the International Space Station except aboard Russian Soyuz spacecraft.

Michael Griffin, a former Nasa chief who championed the Constellation programme, warned that America had concentrated for too long on space shuttles – which are being retired - while rivals, such as China, were emerging with more ambitious goals.

"I think we must return to the moon because it's the next step. It's a few days from home. Mars is only a few months from Earth," he said.

Developers of Ares I, the first rocket in the Constellation project, reject claims that costs have spiralled out of control.

However, Constellation has been projected to cost around $150 billion, including the development of the Orion capsule and the Ares launchers needed to put it into orbit.

Sceptics believe that Nasa is worried that its moon plan may prove too expensive for Washington.

They point out that John Shannon, Nasa's shuttle programme manager, has now proposed a cheaper, $6.6 billion alternative that would use the old shuttle propulsion system.

But the Shannon plan, dubbed the Shuttled-Derived Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle, would only be able to carry two astronauts at a time. According to its creator, this might limit the size of any base on the moon.

Meanwhile, a group of rebel Nasa engineers have put forward their own rival family of rockets called Jupiter.

Jupiter would, at an estimated $14 billion, also be substantially cheaper than the NASA project and would also use existing shuttle technology.

Norman Augustine, a former Lockheed Martin chief executive who chairs the panel reviewing the programme's cost, admitted it all comes down to money.

"With a few exceptions, we have the technology or the knowledge that we could go to Mars if we wanted with humans. We could put a telescope on the moon if we wanted," he said.

www.telegraph.co.uk/scienceandtechnology/science/space/5760285/Nasa-ex
perts-scale-back-moon-and-Mars-plans-in-face-of-Obama-funding-cut-fears.html



Note use of lowercase "moon" when proper English requires uppercase "Moon", as used in all other satelites in the Solar System. Lowercase denotes a movie set on Earth. That job has now been outsourced to Commie China, which has already been busted faking LEO spacewalks and "moon" orbits.

Quote:

The Obama administration's fiscal 2010 NASA budget request includes $630 million in additional near-term funding for development of follow-on rockets and spacecraft needed for the agency's post-shuttle moon program, officials said Thursday. But most of the increase is from the administration's economic stimulus package, and projections through 2013 show a $3.1 billion reduction in overall funding for the program compared with 2009 projections.

Unveiling NASA's $18.7 billion 2010 budget on Thursday, acting Administrator Chris Scolese said the Obama administration had ordered an independent review of NASA's plans to replace the space shuttle with a combination of manned and unmanned Ares rockets, Apollo-style Orion capsules, and lunar landers needed to establish research stations on the moon by the early 2020s. The new rockets are the central elements of what NASA calls the Constellation program.

The review is expected to be completed by August. In the meantime, NASA will continue work on the Ares 1 rocket and Orion capsules the agency hopes to begin flying in March 2015. But contracts needed for initial development of the unmanned Ares 5 heavy lift booster needed for NASA's planned return to the moon are on hold pending the results of the review.

Former NASA Administrator Mike Griffin said in a recent speech the projected funding shortfalls threaten America's leadership in [faking] manned space flight.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-19514_3-10236147-239.html



Now NASA will never have to prove how they "really" walked on The Moon.

But hey, Bushobama had no problem exporting $14-trillion to the Kosher banksters in 6 months. Some of that can finance scifi movies to make the sheeple "feel" like "we" went to the moon.

Gotta git yer priorities strate.

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Friday, July 17, 2009 2:25 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:


Note use of lowercase "moon" when proper English requires uppercase "Moon", as used in all other satelites in the Solar System.



Actually, "proper English" DOESN'T demand that. I can speak all day long about the moons of Mars, the moons of Jupiter, or our lone moon. When doing so, I am speaking of "moons" in general, a generic term for a planet's companion satellite. When I refer to THE moon, it's assumed that I'm speaking of OUR moon, our lone orbiting companion. Seems it should have a proper name. Seems like "Luna" is one I've heard.

Quote:


Lowercase denotes a movie set on Earth.



Oh, is THAT what that denotes? So when we speak of Phobos, one of the moons of Mars, if I call it Phobos, I'm speaking of the actual place, but if I say "a moon of Mars", I'm speaking of the movie set on Earth, huh?

What if I use a lower-case "e" on Earth? What if I refer to the movie set on earth? Am I speaking of a movie set build on the ground, or one build on the movie set?

You have some funny, funny grammatical rules, PN. Or should I call you "pn", and refer to the fake you that inhabits the 'net?

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Friday, July 17, 2009 6:09 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



"Hoodwink" is a routine phrase used by Freemasons, who ran NASA during Apollo and planted their Masonic flag on the "moon" in Apollo 11

Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Quote:


Note use of lowercase "moon" when proper English requires uppercase "Moon", as used in all other satelites in the Solar System.



Actually, "proper English" DOESN'T demand that. I can speak all day long about the moons of Mars, the moons of Jupiter, or our lone moon. When doing so, I am speaking of "moons" in general, a generic term for a planet's companion satellite. When I refer to THE moon, it's assumed that I'm speaking of OUR moon, our lone orbiting companion. Seems it should have a proper name. Seems like "Luna" is one I've heard.

Quote:


Lowercase denotes a movie set on Earth.



Oh, is THAT what that denotes? So when we speak of Phobos, one of the moons of Mars, if I call it Phobos, I'm speaking of the actual place, but if I say "a moon of Mars", I'm speaking of the movie set on Earth, huh?

What if I use a lower-case "e" on Earth? What if I refer to the movie set on earth? Am I speaking of a movie set build on the ground, or one build on the movie set?

You have some funny, funny grammatical rules, PN. Or should I call you "pn", and refer to the fake you that inhabits the 'net?



I guess you better call Hollywood and tell them to rename their new movie:
www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=8&t=39115

So what's the proper name of Earth's moon? Are you alleging it does it not have a name?

Entemology: For thousands of years nobody knew that other planets existed, nor that the Earth was orbited by a planetary satellite, nor that the Earth and other planetary objects are round. They did however see the Earth's satellite every night, and it was named "Moon" god, since it raised the tides and made werewolves. When folks finally figured out the Moon is just a dead rock and not a god, it was never given a new name. "The Earth" and "the Moon" are common grammital phrases, so adding "the" does not require lowercase when talking about a planetary body by its proper name.


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Friday, July 17, 2009 7:18 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Entemology: For thousands of years nobody knew...



Sorry, but I simply refuse to be lectured by someone who doesn't even know what word he's trying to use to describe the origin of a word.

You THINK you're using "entomology", but that would be wrong, since that's the scientific study of insects. What you're TRYING to use is "etymology", the study of the origin of words.

And yes, it DOES seem to me that our moon should have a proper name. After all, why should it be less special than Phobos, Deimos, Io, Europa, Titan, Ganymede, Calypso, Atlas, and others. Most sources list our moon's "proper" name as Luna.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college...

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Monday, July 20, 2009 2:51 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Entemology of space bugs on the moonset:



Kosher Geraldo says moon landing was faked and 9.11 was an "inside job":



Moon Landing Conspiracy Faked by Fox Part 1:



NASA spokesman Brian Welch was assassinated after this video, for asking NASA to actually offer proof of the moon landing. He died of a "heart attack". He was 42 years old.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-858597577309315730



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"If we had actually landed on the Moon in 1969, we'd now have International House of Pancakes on the Moon. We'd have Walmarts on the Moon by now. Instead NASA said, 'Been there done that. Poof, no need to go back...'"
-Capt Joyce Riley USAF, The Power Hour Radio Show, 20 July 2009
http://thepowerhour.com


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Monday, July 20, 2009 6:23 AM

RUE

I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!


Oh, I'm just commenting so I can change the title.

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Monday, July 20, 2009 7:10 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Quote:

Kosher Geraldo says moon landing was faked and 9.11


Well why didn't you SAY so in the beginning? After all, if GERALDO says it, it HAS TO BE TRUE, right?

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Sunday, September 6, 2009 2:00 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Japan's First Space Cargo Ship Ready to Fly

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/090904-japan-htv-ready.html

Japan's first unmanned spacecraft to haul cargo to the International Space Station (ISS) is nearly ready for its maiden launch next week.

The new cargo ship is poised to launch toward the station on Sept. 10 at 1:01 p.m. EDT (1701 GMT) from the Tanegashima Space Center in southern Japan on a shakedown cruise. If all goes well, the inaugural spacecraft, called the H-2 Transfer Vehicle 1 (HTV-1), should arrive at the station on Sept. 17.

The spacecraft was built by JAXA, Japan's space agency, and will launch atop the country's brand new H-2B rocket. It will be early Sept. 11 Local Time at the Japanese launch site at the time of liftoff.

"JAXA is ready to carry out the important HTV-1 mission as a new contribution to the ISS program," said Masazumi Miyake, director of the JAXA office at NASA's Johnson Space Center in Houston, in a Wednesday briefing.

JAXA mission managers are expected to hold a series of final readiness reviews for HTV-1 and its rocket booster to make sure it's ready for launch day.

"There's very little work to be done," said Mike Suffredini, NASA's space station program manager. "We're all on schedule and we're not working any issues relative to this launch."

Suffredini said that the new spacecraft, like cargo ships built by Europe and Russia, will be vital to support the space station's six-person crew once NASA's space shuttle fleet retires in the next year or so.

The HTV-1 cargo ship is Japan's latest contribution to the International Space Station. Astronauts completed construction of JAXA's enormous Kibo laboratory, a $1 billion facility the size of a tour bus, in July with the addition of an exterior experiment porch.

The spacecraft is a solar-powered cylinder about 33 feet (10 meters) long and 14 feet (4.4 meters) wide. It can haul up to 6 tons of pressurized and unpressurized cargo to the station, but will only be packed with about 3 1/2 tons for its debut flight.

Unlike the automated cargo ships built by Russia and Europe, which can dock themselves at the station, the HTV-1 is designed to fly close to the orbiting laboratory and be grabbed by its robotic arm. Astronauts inside the outpost will oversee the approach, rendezvous and grapple.

After about a month at the space station, the disposable cargo ship is expected to be detached from the outpost and commanded to intentionally burn up in the Earth's atmosphere over the southern Pacific Ocean.

Miyake said JAXA has spent about $680 million since 1997 to develop the HTV spacecraft. The vehicle alone costs about $220 million, he said.

The new H-2B rocket launching the HTV-1 cargo ship is a more powerful booster derived from Japan's workhorse H-2A rocket, which the country has been flying since 2001.

The HTV spacecraft will be controlled from JAXA's Tsukuba Space Center, which is also home to the agency's Kibo mission control center.

Japan has until Sept. 30 to try and loft the HTV-1 mission from its seaside launch site before its window closes due to the country's off-shore fishing season. The next opportunity to launch the spacecraft after September is in February 2010, Suffredini said.

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Sunday, October 25, 2009 9:47 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The space shuttle is the only available resource and with all its faults it is far safer system then the Ares I Orion!!! Don A. Nelson
http://www.nasaproblems.com/
The space shuttle transportation system had completed a remarkable 67 consecutive missions before having a catastrophic mission. With crew escape pods the Columbia space shuttle disaster would have been an accident…not a human disaster.

Russia’s Soyuz had completed 68 consecutive missions before having a catastrophic mission. Two flight crews have been lost, both during entry phase of mission.

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Sunday, July 11, 2021 12:35 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


NASA should have a heavy lifting manned rocket flying again soon...but..

Thank Musk for NASA getting back in business?

Chinese researchers propose deflecting 'Armageddon' asteroids...
https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/chinese-researchers-propose-deflecting-a
steroids-with-rockets
/

Despite Stumbles, Mission to Return to the Moon Continues
https://thewarrioronline.com/2021/05/08/despite-stumbles-mission-to-re
turn-to-the-moon-continues
/

NASA Finalizes $935M Contract With Northrop Grumman
https://www.satellitetoday.com/space-exploration/2021/07/09/nasa-final
izes-935m-contract-with-northrop-grumman-for-moon-outpost-living-quarters
/

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Tuesday, May 3, 2022 4:37 PM

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Saturday, June 11, 2022 7:43 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


NASA inspector general issues scathing report on moon effort
https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2022-06-09/nasa-report-moon-effort
-6289022.html


NASA’s second mobile launcher is too heavy, years late, and pushing $1 billion
https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/06/nasas-second-mobile-launcher-i
s-too-heavy-years-late-and-pushing-1-billion
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Sunday, July 10, 2022 10:55 AM

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:00 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


20 years Late, it missed the 50th Anniversary a modified version of Bush Jnr's rocket might finally fly?

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Saturday, September 3, 2022 1:53 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them. SECOND: I am so very sorry I libelled you by labelling you a Russian Troll. I apologize for this. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64646&p=2


Maybe. But not today...


NASA Scrubs Massive Moon Rocket For Second Time Over Hydrogen Leak
https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/take-two-nasa-says-go-launch-arte
mis-rocket




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If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake


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Tuesday, September 27, 2022 5:43 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


NASA says Artemis launch before November will be 'difficult'

https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220927-nasa-says-artemis-launc
h-before-november-will-be-difficult


"20 years after Apollo, 30 years after Apollo, 40 years after Apollo, 50 years after Apollo, ....90 Years after Apollo?

The Father 41st President Bush Snr, George H. W. Bush Space Exploration Initiative in 1989 he wished to Go to Mars, have a New Rocket and mark the 20th anniversary of the Apollo 11 Moon landing.

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expand human presence and activity beyond Earth orbit into the solar system.


https://web.archive.org/web/20090114101107/http://www.hq.nasa.gov/offi
ce/codez/new/policy/nsdd_293.htm


Elon Musk thinks he can do a better job than the entire of NASA and worries that China might take the Solar System?

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Wednesday, October 26, 2022 10:24 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


if only Joe and Kamala did not hate Musk so much

NASA locks in new launch date for its first big mission back to the Moon
https://www.tweaktown.com/news/89100/nasa-locks-in-new-launch-date-for
-its-first-big-mission-back-to-the-moon/index.html

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Tuesday, November 15, 2022 8:51 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Will NASA's 'doomed' Artemis mission FINALLY get the go-ahead this week? $4 billion SLS rocket is set to launch?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11417753/SLS-rocket-se
t-launch-November-16-25-day-journey-moon.html


Busy Moon and Solar system coming and Agencies and Countries investing?

'NASA Releases Report on Policy Matters in Upcoming Moon Missions'

https://spaceref.com/science-and-exploration/nasa-releases-report-on-p
olicy-matters-in-upcoming-moon-missions
/


Staying Awake At The National Space Council Listening Sessions

https://nasawatch.com/biden-space/staying-awake-at-the-national-space-
council-listening-sessions
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Thursday, November 17, 2022 7:14 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Looks like it finally got flying

Prediction Incorrect?

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