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Age of Ultron
Monday, April 27, 2015 6:50 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Monday, April 27, 2015 7:14 PM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Monday, April 27, 2015 8:02 PM
Monday, April 27, 2015 8:52 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Yep, Joss. Another good reason to see it. Even that wasn't quite enough to overcome the Downey factor for me.
Monday, April 27, 2015 9:20 PM
WISHIMAY
Monday, April 27, 2015 10:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: PS What is the deal with Elisabeth Olsen? Why do you like her?
Tuesday, April 28, 2015 8:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: I'll admit I never really liked RD Jr, either, but I think he probably is the perfect person to play Iron Man, just because he HAS a past that's not squeaky clean and it translates well for the development of the character. I too, do not like to give second chances to people that have it all and blow what the rest of us could only wish for, but at this point fighting it is counterproductive anyway... PS What is the deal with Elisabeth Olsen? Why do you like her?
Friday, May 1, 2015 5:35 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: I'll admit I never really liked RD Jr, either, but I think he probably is the perfect person to play Iron Man, just because he HAS a past that's not squeaky clean and it translates well for the development of the character. I too, do not like to give second chances to people that have it all and blow what the rest of us could only wish for, but at this point fighting it is counterproductive anyway... PS What is the deal with Elisabeth Olsen? Why do you like her? I have seen her work, or at least some of it. She can steal some scenes, but really she embeds herself in the roles, it never seems like she is acting. Maybe also because she didn't seem to ride the coattails of her famous siblings, who I don't really follow. I saw a clip of Ultron with her, and she looks wierd in that black outfit and hair, but I am willing to watch what she brings to the overall film. I think she has great potential, promise. By now she must be older than Abigail Breslin who also absorbs the characters, but she really marinates in roles better than ScarJo ever has. I think Elizabeth's star is still on the rise, so it feels to me like watching Natalie Portman, Lisa Jakub, and other good actresses grow. I think a better Iron Man could be found in Michael Beihn, Matt Damon, Karl Urban, Eric Bana, Tom Hardy, Jensen Eckles, Nathan Fillion, Sean Maher, Gary Sinise, and others. Unless, are you intending to imply that Tony Stark is supposed to be completely unlikeable?
Friday, May 1, 2015 5:36 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I've seen some threads about snarky comments, reviews, smackdowns, largely publicity functions. Not much about the film, any story it might possess. I had not really planned on seeing it in cinema, but conjured I would likely see it after a few weeks. But then I noticed I have not been able to catch films that way recently. When I go looking for a film that was showing a week before, I find the film has left the theater run. Now I notice that Elizabeth Olsen is in Ultron, so I will need to remember to see it. I understand this means I will not be able to avoid Downey unless I can find a way for the theater to fast forward through his scenes. But I did manage to not see Godzilla, largely because the promotional material failed to adequately make clear that Elizabeth was in it. I can admit that I prefer Bana Hulk to any other. I have not bothered with the comics, in case these shows are following them. Is Cobie Smulders still in Ultron? Natalie Portman seems to be only in the non-Avengers part of Thor's life. Plus I hear she does not even want to be in any other Thor films. So who is really wanting to see the film? Who might see it, but only if convenient? Who will wait for DVD? Or budget/bargain cinema? I also note that ScarJo may be dwindling down her roles, and Elizabeth Olsen seems more than capable of taking over any roles that ScarJo or Maggie Gyllenhal pass up.
Friday, May 1, 2015 9:02 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: As I remember Tony Stark in the comics, he was like Elon Musk, boy genius, and Kevin Kline. Smooth, suave, debonair and a decent fellow (despite being a stoopid rich tycoon), think Batman but without the brooding Dark Knight vibe going on. He seemed like the type of guy that we would hang out with, if he was a working class dude. His best friend was his driver and his secretary, er, excuse me, administrative assistant. Downey has almost totally transformed him into a super-rich version of himself (that seems redundant), I did kind of liked him in the original film, but he has turned him into a wisecracking, scotch drinking version of, well, himself. Only thing that is somewhat saving him is the wonderful script that Joss & Co. wrote for the Avengers, and Joss's sense of humor. I find it kind of boring to have Iron Man wisecracking throughout the film and not really take on the gravitas of Tony Stark's situation. Can you tell I was an Iron Man fan from way back; also Thor. I'm good with Hemsworth as Thor, he gets it. But Downey, well sometimes you could almost catch him looking in the mirror at himself with that smirk on his face saying "Damn, I'm good." The director, I would imagine, has to reign him in at times. Although I really can't hate on him too much because I saw a story about him visiting a sick kid (dying of something) and he didn't seek publicity (it was only through Twitter, posted by the kid's mother). Good for him. SGG
Friday, May 1, 2015 10:18 AM
Friday, May 1, 2015 11:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: I saw it last night and will work on my review sometime later today. Got too many errands to run first. All I'll say now is that I'm glad Joss is done with Marvel and can move on to another project I expect I'll like more. It's not a bad movie, in fact it's exactly what you'd expect from a Marvel film, but I'm just about burnt out on those.
Friday, May 1, 2015 12:26 PM
ZEEK
Friday, May 1, 2015 3:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: As I remember Tony Stark in the comics, he was like Elon Musk, boy genius, and Kevin Kline. Smooth, suave, debonair and a decent fellow (despite being a stoopid rich tycoon), think Batman but without the brooding Dark Knight vibe going on. He seemed like the type of guy that we would hang out with, if he was a working glass dude. His best friend was his driver and his secretary, er, excuse me, administrative assistant. Downey has almost totally transformed him into a super-rich version of himself (that seems redundant), I did kind of liked him in the original film, but he has turned him into a wisecracking, scotch drinking version of, well, himself. Only thing that is somewhat saving him is the wonderful script that Joss & Co. wrote for the Avengers, and Joss's sense of humor. I find it kind of boring to have Iron Man wisecracking throughout the film and not really take on the gravitas of Tony Stark's situation. Can you tell I was an Iron Man fan from way back; also Thor. I'm good with Hemsworth as Thor, he gets it. But Downey, well sometimes you could almost catch him looking in the mirror at himself with that smirk on his face saying "Damn, I'm good." The director, I would imagine, has to reign him in at times. SGG
Friday, May 1, 2015 3:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Stark could be likeable as played by other actors, but downey can't act and it is starting to show to even you - I tired of it long ago.
Friday, May 1, 2015 4:15 PM
Saturday, May 2, 2015 6:27 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Stark could be likeable as played by other actors, but downey can't act and it is starting to show to even you - I tired of it long ago. Stark is NOT likable in the comics being published. And have you seen Downey in 2008's Tropical Thunder? A storm of acting: The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, May 2, 2015 6:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: PS What is the deal with Elisabeth Olsen? Why do you like her? Joss Whedon & Elizabeth Olsen Interview The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Saturday, May 2, 2015 3:00 PM
Saturday, May 2, 2015 3:08 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: In Tropical Thunder Downey was HI-larious, he was almost unrecognizable, but I'm a big fan of the "Less is More" style of acting. Sometimes though, exaggeration, especially in comedy, More is definitely better. I remember Spiderman as being a wise-ass and cracking with rather droll quips while fighting a supervillian. Tony Stark and Ironman was more stoic and deliberate, his appeal was that his condition made him human, but his intellect (and money) made him Ironman. This whole changeover to the New Marvel Universe is a ploy to fill the seats in theaters. Again, I think of how Hemsworth has totally captured the essence of Thor (and, for that matter Hopkins as Odin and Levy as Fandral, Jaime Alexander as Lady Sif). Mostly I fault Disney and Marvel for trying to sensationalize the comic book genre, a seemingly natural for action movies, when, in fact, it isn't needed. When I first heard that Thor was being made, I immediately thought of Hopkins as Odin - that was a no-brainer. And he delivered as I had pictured it in my head while reading Thor comics. Perfect casting, smart move on Disney's part. Not so much with Ironman 2 & 3. Weak scripts and that Marvel over-the-top syndrome spoiled it for me. I no longer trust Disney or marvel with that series. Captain America, Thor, X-Men....thumbs up. Ironman, Daredevil, and Spiderman.....not so much. As for the Avengers, I'm pretty sure that both Disney and Marvel had binders-full of exec notes for Joss to "consider." And that, for me, is a mix-mosh of too many cooks. SGG Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Stark could be likeable as played by other actors, but downey can't act and it is starting to show to even you - I tired of it long ago. Stark is NOT likable in the comics being published. And have you seen Downey in 2008's Tropical Thunder? A storm of acting:
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Stark could be likeable as played by other actors, but downey can't act and it is starting to show to even you - I tired of it long ago. Stark is NOT likable in the comics being published. And have you seen Downey in 2008's Tropical Thunder? A storm of acting:
Saturday, May 2, 2015 4:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: Short, but not so sweet. The majority will love Ultron. When have I ever been in the majority? http://templetongate.net/ageofultron.htm
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 5:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Wishimay: Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: Short, but not so sweet. The majority will love Ultron. When have I ever been in the majority? http://templetongate.net/ageofultron.htm I just saw it, and I agree with several of the points. They picked Joss to get the job done. It had too much subject matter in it to make it flow. I felt like things were happening and THEN people were thinking about what to do. Blink- here's the bad guy. Blink- here's these new people. Blink-what side are the new people on and why did she lose her accent halfway through the movie? Blink blink blink blink.... Beam Thor in, Beam Thor out (His hair was icky looking, btw) I too only caught about half of what was said because there was so much going on and so much to absorb and there seemed to not be clear recording during the first ten minutes or so. There WERE plenty of zingers, Joss style, but rushed (Jarvis is my co-pilot- nod to us or nod that he's moved on, btw???). Not that he didn't do his damnedest and I doubt anyone could have done better.. I wouldn't mind seeing the second half of the movie again, not so much the first half. The first half of the movie gave off this feeling of out-of-control-failure that was hard to sit through, like you had one of those no-pants dreams, or you got drunk and cheated on someone...I get it was supposed to bring them down emotionally so there could BE a flip side, but... it didn't seem to have a resolution before they just went on to the next battle. And there was a LOT of battle.... I will say Paul Bettany did a FABULOUS job with Vision. They could have easily broke this movie up into two, but I think they knew that would've just been overkill. In trying to keep it interesting they mainly succeeding in making THIS movie a little bloated. But like everyone else has been saying, the A.D.D. riddled public will be ok with it anyway. Just a weigh-station to bigger plots anyhow... Oh and DON'T STAY ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE CREDITS. Nuthin' there.
Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:30 AM
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Wednesday, May 6, 2015 4:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Semi-spoilery stuff: Select to view spoiler: https://www.yahoo.com/movies/s/joss-whedon-fighting-marvel-over-avengers-age-ultron-040034343.html Et Tu Joss? It's sad that he fought for the very scenes I thought were clunky and should have gone. I mean I know that they were doing trick foreshadowing with the farm but the payoff didn't justify it. I was just like "oh I thought the other thing was going to happen but this is fine too whatever." It just wasn't emotional and didn't justify the build up. The dream sequences were very jumbled IMO and didn't add much of anything to the movie. I'd be fine with them just saying Scarlett Witch can make people see their worst fears or something and never actually show what the characters saw. Either that or they should have devoted more time to the dream sequences and made them more significant. The best one IMO what Tony's but it still was unclear exactly what he saw or what he took away from it. Sorry Joss. I think the studio was right on this one. Except for the cave scene thing. That could have gone too.
Wednesday, May 6, 2015 10:55 AM
Thursday, May 7, 2015 7:52 PM
Friday, May 8, 2015 2:24 AM
VERASAMUELS
Friday, May 8, 2015 5:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Zeek: Yeah I think I need a second viewing as well to follow all of it. I think it may have just thrown too much at the audience too quickly to catch it all. I agree that on the hammer being excellent. It was funny at the time and then had a huge payoff. However, that's my complaint with the romance. I didn't feel much of a payoff. All we got was some brooding by the end. Understandable brooding, but just not the payoff I'd expect. Again that could be just setting up for more in future installments. For now just a good movie. Maybe it will improve with time. I feel like both the first Captain America and the first Thor have improved with time. I can appreciate more of what they did in those movies now that I've seen other installments.
Friday, May 8, 2015 10:32 AM
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Monday, July 4, 2016 1:38 AM
OONJERAH
Monday, July 4, 2016 12:40 PM
REAVERFAN
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Ultron: 2 stars out of 5. It's all action & special effects. When I was 11, I would've liked it. I found nothing to draw me in, believe or care about. (yawn) I wanted my time & my money back. ... oooOO}{OOooo ... I've given up looking for the meaning of life. Now all I want is a cookie.
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