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Edge of Tomorrow
Tuesday, May 13, 2014 7:43 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:57 PM
ECGORDON
There's no place I can be since I found Serenity.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 6:09 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Looks interesting. Seems like another high-concept or thinker flick. . . . Any comments?
Quote: I decided not to die with three rounds left in my pile driver. I lifted a leg. I put a hand on one knee. I stood. I screamed. I forced myself to keep going. The red Jacket turned to me. I heard some noise over my headphones, but I couldn’t tell what she was trying to say. One of the Mimics in the pack stood out from the rest. It wasn’t that it looked different from the others. Just another drowned, bloated frog. But there was something about it that set it apart. Maybe proximity to death had sharpened my senses, but somehow I knew that was the one I was meant to fight. So that’s what I did. I leapt at the Mimic and it lashed out at me with its tail. I felt my body lighten. One of my arms had been cut off. The right arm—leaving the pile driver on the left intact. Lucky me. I pulled the trigger. The charge fired, a perfect ninety-degree angle. One more shot. A hole opened in the thing’s carapace. One more shot. I blacked out. Sakurazaka, Hiroshi; translated by Smith, Alexander O. (2011-09-05). All You Need Is Kill (Kindle Locations 189-198). Haikasoru/VIZ Media. Kindle Edition.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:50 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Looks like more of the futuristic, Scientology based go-se from Tom. Not that Oblivion was a total train wreck. I mean, it wasn't Battlefield Earth, but it's getting a bit worn out.
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 7:24 PM
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:11 PM
STORYMARK
Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Looks like more of the futuristic, Scientology based go-se from Tom.
Friday, May 16, 2014 3:39 AM
SHINYGOODGUY
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: I haven't seen Reacher and I thought Oblivion was a big hot mess, but I'll still be seeing Edge of Tomorrow. I don't judge a film by who is in it or who directed, because I've been burned too many times by projects from former favorites (Prometheus comes to mind). I take them each as they come and judge accordingly. Plus, any film with Emily Blunt can't be total waste.
Friday, May 16, 2014 3:48 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Looks interesting. Seems like another high-concept or thinker flick. Is Cruise working up an arc with Reacher, Oblivion, and now Edge of Tomorrow? I know some didn't pay attention to Oblivion, but it was another movie where the cinema audience which didn't pay attention during the showing were confused at the end, and those who did were explaining it to them. Sure, Reacher is a book series, but the flick was portrayed as a puzzle to solve until the last part. Maybe Inception struck a chord. Is he trying to copy Arnold's arc of Terminator, Predator, Total Recall? Or Paxton with Terminator, Weird Science (wasn't deep, but got him face time), Aliens? Or Biehn with Terminator, Aliens, Seventh Seal, Abyss? Or Pitt with Seven, 12 Monkeys, Sleepers? I'm sure many have discounted Cruise's roles, but maybe his production partner is picking them better now. Any comments?
Friday, May 16, 2014 3:59 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Yep, I figured some here were not Cruise fans. Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Looks like more of the futuristic, Scientology based go-se from Tom. Not that Oblivion was a total train wreck. I mean, it wasn't Battlefield Earth, but it's getting a bit worn out. ??? Scientology is future based? His films are based on his religion/cult? I'm not familiar with this (nor really Scientology other than in passing), care to elaborate? Like the relationship between his career, other films made by scientologists?
Friday, May 16, 2014 10:12 AM
MUTT999
Saturday, May 17, 2014 1:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Mutt999: Reminds me of Source Code, but on steroids.
Saturday, May 17, 2014 11:01 PM
Sunday, May 18, 2014 8:56 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I saw Emily Blunt being interviewed. Wow. She is one frelling cool chick!
Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:07 PM
Sunday, May 18, 2014 2:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: you can't tell me she's not adorable, hot, smart, funny and cool...
Monday, May 19, 2014 12:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Is that just impression from trailer, or you know the book/script? Not sure if Source Code was only lacking due to the lead (was it Jake Gyllenhal?)
Monday, May 19, 2014 6:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I said LOOKS LIKE, and from the trailer, it does. Why or how that offends anyone, I really don't care.
Monday, May 19, 2014 10:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I said LOOKS LIKE, and from the trailer, it does. Why or how that offends anyone, I really don't care. I was not offended. I just didn't understand the context or comparison. Was hoping you would enlighten me about what you were referring to.
Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I said LOOKS LIKE, and from the trailer, it does. Why or how that offends anyone, I really don't care. I was not offended. I just didn't understand the context or comparison. Was hoping you would enlighten me about what you were referring to. The only one who was offended is one who always looks for ways to get annoyed by things I say, no matter what. Tom Cruise, in the future, battling aliens... pretty much what we've seen from him in Oblivion and w/ John Travolta in Battlefield Earth. Scientology is steep w/ the whole advanced alien stuff in their made up religion. Just figured it was more of his religious based propaganda being passed off as action / sci-fi. That it DOES involve aliens and the future, hell, that might be close enough for him to have taken the job anyways. Even if it's not connected to scientology. Same again goes for Will Smith, in his goofy futuristic movie w/ his kid. I don't think it's any coincidence that so many scientology stars end up doing sci-fi movies. Their cult leader was , after all, a sci-fi writer. Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts. " AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall
Thursday, May 22, 2014 6:08 PM
Thursday, May 22, 2014 9:57 PM
OLDGUY
What Would Mal do ?
Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:06 PM
Friday, May 23, 2014 4:31 PM
Friday, May 23, 2014 8:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: How many Toms you conjure die in this one?
Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:27 PM
Thursday, June 5, 2014 6:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Maybe the reason I like the looks is I have a weakness for time travel concepts. Groundhog Day wasn't really that. Saw EoT trailer again, makes me think of the paradox possibilities even if it's not strictly time travel. Or parallel universe travel.
Saturday, June 7, 2014 12:29 PM
Saturday, June 7, 2014 5:14 PM
MAL4PREZ
Saturday, June 7, 2014 6:12 PM
Sunday, June 8, 2014 12:06 AM
Sunday, June 8, 2014 4:33 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Just saw it in 3d IMAX. Was thoroughly satisfied. (No spoilers to follow.) I hate Tom cruise with a passion because he a cultish freak. But the point of this movie is not him. (If I'd thought it was, I wouldn't have gone to see it!) He fills the role all right, but really it's all about the writers and the effects. The effects, as you'd expect of a big budget film, are fabulous. The writing is the real star. In a fun thrill ride kind of way. It's no Primer, nothing that I'll be watching 20 times to enjoy the over the top brilliance, but I'll likely see in the theater another time or two just for how visually awesome it is and more so for how cleverly it intertwined the plot and the story telling. Probably only people who have tried to tell/write a story will really know what I mean there: sometimes you have to make plot choices base on the way you will be telling the story. If you do it well, the audience won't never suspect, it will just work. Momento, another movie that plays with time, is like that. The plot itself is nothing spectacular, which you can witness if you see an edit of the movie told in proper time sequence. But told in short scenes that run backward in time: brilliant. EoT had that Groundhog Day repetition and made ful use of the possibilities, but still managed to move the story on to new settings and new plot twists in a way that was seamless and clear and completely reasonable. I am a physicist; it is rare that I see time travel movies that I watch once and find reasonable. Which is also a bit of the weakness in this movie for me. I am so completely sure of what I saw, so completely satisfied with it, that probably one more viewing will be enough for me. Unlike primer, which I've seen at least 20 times and will likely watch 20 more. EoT is kind of a bit of fluff. Really fun, really satisfying fluff that did what it meant to do damned near perfectly. And yes, Emily Blunt rocks. It also helps that Tom cruise's character starts off as a bit of a douche, so my distaste for the man fit right in. *-------------------------------------------------* What trolls reveal about themselves when they troll: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57532 *-------------------------------------------------*
Sunday, June 8, 2014 5:07 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I saw Emily Blunt being interviewed. Wow. She is one frelling cool chick! Was it this interview where she talks about burping her baby and her movie exo-suit being so heavy she cried? Emily Blunt FULL Interview on Ellen show May 14, 2014 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Sunday, June 29, 2014 11:20 PM
Monday, June 30, 2014 3:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Has no one else gone to see this? . . . I'm sad to say that anyone who avoids this movie based on Tom Cruise disgust is really missing something worthwhile, something created by a whole bunch of non-cult folks who deserve recognition.
Monday, June 30, 2014 3:25 PM
Monday, June 30, 2014 3:27 PM
THGRRI
Monday, June 30, 2014 7:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: BTW, JSF, we could embark in a real interesting discussion of this movie now, because the real you and I have a lot in common. Too bad that you can't just be yourself and take part in an honest discussion.
Thursday, July 3, 2014 4:30 PM
Thursday, July 3, 2014 4:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Has no one else gone to see this? Hey, I'm in large part overjoyed at the poor ratings because I want to see the Cult Man's movie returns go to crap as a message of what the USA thinks of his cult way of living. FAIL you Scientology freak LOL! Get a real life before you try selling us a movie! And yet... The goodness of this movie is not the the lead actor cult freak with the nice hair. I'm sad to say that anyone who avoids this movie based on Tom Cruise disgust is really missing something worthwhile, something created by a whole bunch of non-cult folks who deserve recognition. If only they had cast it differently, I would love this movie all out. *sigh* *-------------------------------------------------* What trolls reveal about themselves when they troll: http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=57532 *-------------------------------------------------*
Thursday, July 3, 2014 5:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ecgordon: I did go to see it a couple of weeks ago, and I liked it. Not sure why it took so long to write my review. http://templetongate.net/edgeoftomorrow.htm
Thursday, July 3, 2014 6:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY: I could tell he liked it because we recited some of the more funny lines and scenes in the movie, plus, and this was a big one for him, we discussed the ending. We both were not satisfied.......me, I wanted it to be told from a different point of view (no spoilers) and he was questioning the helicopter scene. Why there? (For those who've seen it, you know what I'm talking about. If not, send me a message). T'was better the second time around. SGG
Thursday, July 3, 2014 7:08 PM
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Monday, July 7, 2014 3:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Hi all. Haven't had a chance to write a good reply here, especially since I burned out my laptop. :/. But now due to yet another wiring problem on the lovely .$@#ing metro north, I'm going to be stuck on this stupid train for some time. So - SGG, sorry I never replied to your post way up. Yes, we saw it much the same. Except I'm confused as to what you meant by the hero seeing his truth. And what was your quibble with the aliens? Maybe we need some spoiler discussion re the ending... Select to view spoiler: What irks people? Do we mean Paris? Or that it backed up one extra day after the omega was killed so that d-day never happened? Or that on the final timeline our hero never actually talked to our FMB? Honestly, I kind of liked how it cut off. I like imagining him explaining it all to her, and her reaction. That would be fun, but couldn't be done in the film. Nice thing to imagine while leaving the theater. As for backing up a day, it made sense. It totally fit into the arc that he didn't deserve his rank and uniform initially, but after all his heroics he did, and his cowardly act of desertion was wiped out. Yes, it was very pat and neat. But it fit the arc. I too want to read the story it was based on and see what happened there. So I agree that there is something annoying about how tight and happy-happy it all was, which is what I meant in my first review. I can't explain it, but I prefer to be left a little more... Not confused, but something like that. It was just too neat. But I can't really fault it because it was all explained and set up very well. So, on to the casting. Emily Blunt = perfection. No doubt there. My problem is my own bias, really. Tom played it perfectly. I can't fault him, don't know who else I'd cast there. I just hate the idea of providing any kind of support to this despiccable man. I don't think the movie would be better with a different male lead, but I'd feel better about liking it. The only name I'd throw out there is Jeremy Renner, but that's only because I had a wicked crush on him for a while. :) until he sucked in the avengers, that is.
Monday, July 7, 2014 7:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Althought I'm a TC fan, would you have considered Bill Paxton or Michael Biehn in the lead role? Jason Statham? Matt Damon? Ryan Reynolds - maybe too much funny? John Cho, channeling Sulu?
Quote:As I'm trying to think of others in the role, that "helmet gets in the way" line is a killer.
Quote:What was FMB?
Quote:Her reaction would have been the same as in the film. No different. Each time in the film, in fact - her reaction was the same each time.
Quote:Cowardly act of desertion?? When was that? How did he do that?
Monday, July 7, 2014 8:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Althought I'm a TC fan, would you have considered Bill Paxton or Michael Biehn in the lead role? Jason Statham? Matt Damon? Ryan Reynolds - maybe too much funny? John Cho, channeling Sulu? -Bill Paxton was perfect in the role he had. I wouldn't move him. -Matt Damon maybe. He's got acting chops, both in comedy and action. -The others you mention I don't know well enough to guess.
Quote: Quote:As I'm trying to think of others in the role, that "helmet gets in the way" line is a killer. Yeah, Tom did well at going from wimpy coward to bad-ass soldier. I'll give him that. He played both sides very well. SPOILER DISCUSSION ALERT **more spoilers added by m4p Quote:Her reaction would have been the same as in the film. No different. Each time in the film, in fact - her reaction was the same each time.I lost this - what are you referring to? Oh, the ending. Right. But come on, in the final ending it's totally different.
Quote: There's no action to be taken, no chance for them to see the attack happen and take part in it, just a big huge victory to be enjoyed though they have no direct experience of it. Imagine Cage and FMB and the science guy going for a cup of coffee or a beer or likely both, with a few meals in between, while he told them the whole story of how the three of them, and J squad, won the war.
Quote: In fact, if I was going to write this thing as a short story, (not as a novel probably, that'd be a stretch) I would tell it that way. Imagine being one of those other two and hearing about everything you did, of what a hero you are, though you have no memory of it and no one else will ever know about it. That's a good yarn.
Quote: Quote:Cowardly act of desertion?? When was that? How did he do that?Really? All that
Quote: wriggling to get out of going to the beach with the first wave, including trying to blackmail the general, then running from the MPs, then trying to play Paxton's sargeant, then trying to run while loading up on the attack transport, then running yet a third time from the beach? The writers couldn't have tried harder to sell what a coward this man was! You can't really like TC enough to have missed what a complete loser his character was at the beginning of the film, can you?
Quote: It was a little out of control at the end, pushing the point that he'd finally earned his rank. He goes to find FMB, and the always noble French horns take over the soundtrack as all the other soldiers come to attention as he enters the room.
Quote: Compare this to the first time he came in as a
Quote: private and they all gave him the evil eye. Message from the whiny French horns: he's now really a Major. Atten-hut and give him the respect he deserves cause now he deserves it! Yeah, that moment was a bit cheesy.
Monday, July 7, 2014 9:45 PM
Monday, July 7, 2014 9:56 PM
Tuesday, July 8, 2014 4:24 PM
Quote:Originally posted by MAL4PREZ: Tell you what else JSF: instead of getting into some silly "I'm right, no I'm right" here, let's wait until the DVD with all the extras comes out. Let's watch the commentary and such, and then let's see what the writers, directors, and actors have to say about the arc of TC's character. What do you say?
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