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The Odysuck

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Tuesday, July 28, 2026 1:12 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


pushing to 700 Million, might get near $900M

International has increased now that more overseas territory came in
(55.6%)

biggest International Territories are British and French


Toy Story 5, Moana, Obsession have not really challenged the Nolan remake of Odyssey


slow openings in Asia but if it gets a release and does good in China, SKorea and Japan then you are looking at it pushing in the direction of 1 Billion?


The Odyssey
Metascore
its Mixed or Average
https://www.metacritic.com/movie/the-odyssey-2026/
Based on 2,583 User Ratings
5.3


Worldwide Box Office $652,025,310
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Odyssey-The-(2026)#international

Widest Release 3,942 theaters
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl170295297/

However only now the drama of money box office movement gets interesting

Spider-Man Brand New Day is about to arrive and deliver Nolan an almost near devastating knockout blow

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Why isn't anyone listening to me about 'The Odyssey'? | Opinion

Despite all my productive and intellectual online shouting, the movie has made $652 million worldwide since its July 17 release. And even more frustratingly, I'm still single.

By Rex Huppke
USA TODAY
July 28, 2026, 2:18 p.m. ET

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/07/28/the-odysse
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Like most normal, well-adjusted men, I have spent every waking moment since Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey” opened in theaters feeling apoplectically angry about Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey.”

I have rage-posted online, noting that by casting people who are different than me, the director ruined a beloved epic poem I never actually read. I have blamed wokeness for creating a world in which an ancient work of absolute fiction can be sullied by what I, making perfect sense, angrily claim to be historical inaccuracies.

Yet despite all my productive and intellectual online shouting, the movie has made $652 million worldwide since its July 17 release. And even more frustratingly, I’m still single.

I struggle to understand these developments. Are people not hearing my well-thought-out protestations that the boats we see in the movie look like Viking ships and not the penteconters used by ancient Greeks? Have I not been agreeing loudly enough with right-wing intellectuals like Elon Musk, who back in May responded “True” to an X post that read: “The destruction of the Odyssey by Nolan and the Left isn’t just about a movie. It’s about Western Civilization. The Greeks were its foundation. From Democracy to Art to Philosophy to Culture. The Left wants to destroy Western Civilization and everything that helped create it.”

Why are people shelling out millions of dollars to see a film that so obviously presents a clear-and-present danger to everything men on the internet have told me I must hold dear? Has Big Hollyweird shadow-banned my social media accounts? Did I forget to turn on the microphone before yelling into it on recent episodes of my podcast “Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’ Is a Threat to Masculinity, Please Date Me”?

Why are people not listening to my sensible anti-The-Odyssey rage?

You can’t tell me rugged online men, sweatily exasperated that Nolan portrayed the Greek king Agamemnon wearing a black helmet that looked like it came off a Batman movie set, are somehow a minority voice in America.

You can’t suggest that White, cisgender guys whose views on masculinity were adopted from wealthy, bigoted men who yell about things on the internet are overreacting to a fictional story involving a Cyclops and mythical sirens by demanding historical accuracy.

How dare moviegoers not listen to me! Don’t they know there’s a male loneliness epidemic going on and nobody can figure out why it’s happening?

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Wednesday, July 29, 2026 7:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


so it looks like Nolan's Odyssey remake might already be yesterday's news

pre-ticket sales for Spider-Man in China might be insane, it could be targeting $250 million...these are insane numbers, so I guess all that China tiktok spyphone mobile cell phone app data is good for something

Nolan's Odyssey so far has made ZERO bucks in China, SKorea, Japan

the numbers look insane over 2 billion...it could be the first 2 plus Billion since Covid and Avatar: The Way of Water, Ne Zha 2 etc but 'Spider-Man No Way Home' got very close in year 2021

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Wednesday, July 29, 2026 7:39 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


it could be over but Tom Holland still wins

bye bye Nolan, bye bye Emma Thomas, Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, Robert Pattinson etc


now its Tom Holland vs Tom Holland


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Saturday, August 1, 2026 4:07 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


wow it got hit with a knockout blow

$168.00M vs $14.50M


Spider-Man previews


https://x.com/BORReport/status/2083578338283815120#m

in other countries its at least a -40% to -60% drop

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/34401-the-odyssey/page/13/


took too much of that media hype booster shot


its run has 'died suddenly'

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Saturday, August 1, 2026 5:50 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
wow it got hit with a knockout blow

$168.00M vs $14.50M


Spider-Man previews


https://x.com/BORReport/status/2083578338283815120#m

in other countries its at least a -40% to -60% drop

https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/34401-the-odyssey/page/13/


took too much of that media hype booster shot


its run has 'died suddenly'




Uh huh...

They've run out of American-hating liberals to go see it.

Everybody knows this is a shit movie, and anyone who paid to see it got what they deserved. They pissed away money and got themselves a good 4 hour nap in the air conditioned theater.


This movie ain't shit.

Spider-Man had to come back to prove that by absolutely destroying it.




Like I said over a month ago... Anybody who hasn't seen Spider-Man on opening weekend or The Odyssey is going to be left with that choice going forward.

Which one do you think people are going to pick?

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Saturday, August 1, 2026 5:58 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Just FYI, Jaynez's $168 Million vs $14.5 Million figures were the box office yesterday. But I need to point that out because it's pretty accidentally disingenuous to frame that comparison and doesn't paint the actual picture, which is already the destruction of The Odyssey and doesn't need to have inflated numbers to make the point.


The $14.5 Million The Odyssey made last night is the legit Friday domestic numbers for its 3rd Friday in the theaters.

The $168 Million that Spider-Man made "last night" also includes preview Thursday, which was a mind-boggling $72 Million that also happens to be more than Avengers: End Game got.


You can compare Spider-Man's $72 Million preview to The Odyssey's $17.6 Million.

Or you can compare Spider-Man's $168 Million Friday number with The Odyssey's first Friday number of $51 Million. (since both of these include Thursday previews).

Or you can compare each real opening Friday number with Spider-Man's $96 Million to The Odyssey's $34.4 Million.




Though I do not believe that Spider-Man will make anywhere near 3 Billion worldwide, the average of those 3 numbers is well over 3 times what the Odyssey did.

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Sunday, August 2, 2026 6:45 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


its final number 1 spot Domestic was the 30th day of July
day 30 of that July month its over, 31st day Spider-Man arrives
$10,347,260
%YD change -24% %LW change -41%
Total $344,525,415
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Odyssey-The-(2026)#domestic

World wide $721,656,415
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl170295297/

Friday data

the British dropped 41%
but the French only dropped 20%
Italy dropped -40%

Spider-Man is going to dominate, Nolan's box office run is ending

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Sunday, August 2, 2026 8:08 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Sweet.

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Monday, August 3, 2026 6:50 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


its all but over, but Don't know anyone who's admitted seeing the Odyssey remake but there are a few NolanFanatics out there somewhere

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Monday, August 3, 2026 8:16 AM

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Homer's Odyssey



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Monday, August 3, 2026 8:22 AM

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The Odyssey (2026)

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office $395,525,000
International Box Office $515,872,000
Worldwide Box Office $911,397,000

Production Budget: $250,000,000
(worldwide box office is 3.6 times production budget)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Odyssey-The-(2026)

FOR COMPARISON WITH ANOTHER $250,000,000 PRODUCTION BUDGET MOVIE:

Toy Story 5 (2026)

Theatrical Performance
Domestic Box Office $461,696,126
International Box Office $575,207,586
Worldwide Box Office $1,036,903,712

Production Budget: $250,000,000
(worldwide box office is 4.1 times production budget)

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Toy-Story-5-(2026)

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Monday, August 3, 2026 12:57 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Spider-Man only cost $225 Million and made $927 Million in 3 days.

Nobody gives a shit about The Odyssey.

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Monday, August 3, 2026 12:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
its all but over, but Don't know anyone who's admitted seeing the Odyssey remake but there are a few NolanFanatics out there somewhere



You too, huh? I don't know a single person who's seen it or shown any interest.

I'm pretty sure the only people in America who did live on the coasts.

Shit Golem has seen it, but he pirated it.

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Spider-Man only cost $225 Million and made $927 Million in 3 days.

Nobody gives a shit about The Odyssey.

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Why would anyone pay to see an R-rated version of Homer's Odyssey, which the Simpsons accurately described in the 5-minute-long cartoon? Especially when it's free on TV. And yet they do pay. Hollywood has been marketing worthless visions to morons for over 100 years, and yet the morons never understand that all movie theaters are cheating them out of their money.



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Monday, August 3, 2026 3:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Spider-Man only cost $225 Million and made $927 Million in 3 days.

Nobody gives a shit about The Odyssey.

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Why would anyone pay to see an R-rated version of Homer's Odyssey, which the Simpsons accurately described in the 5-minute-long cartoon? Especially when it's free on TV. And yet they do pay. Hollywood has been marketing worthless visions to morons for over 100 years, and yet the morons never understand that all movie theaters are cheating them out of their money.





So now you're going to pout and go back to "nothing matters because I lost again".

Fuck off, Shit Golem.

Loser.

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The message behind Christopher Nolan’s most important change to “The Odyssey”

Are we the Sea Peoples?

Matthew Yglesias | Aug 06, 2026

https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-message-behind-christopher-nolans

When I finally went to see Christopher Nolan’s “The Odyssey” (it’s harder to get to the movies in rural Maine), I was surprised that relatively little of the gargantuan discourse around the film focused on what I thought was the largest departure from Homer’s text: Nolan inserts multiple references to a historical phenomenon known as the Sea Peoples and a historical episode known as the Bronze Age Collapse.

Some of this falls under the general heading of historical inaccuracy — a person living in the Bronze Age would not refer to himself as living in the Bronze Age, because the idea of a Bronze Age is a modern characterization of the past. It’s based on knowledge that in the future, people would learn how to work with iron on a large scale and bronze weapons would become obsolete. The Sea Peoples, similarly, is a phrase coined in the 19th century by a French Egyptologist putting forward a hypothesis about something he thought happened in the ancient Eastern Mediterranean. It’s not a phrase that we have any evidence was in use at the time.

But anachronisms aside, these references are a bold adaptive choice by Nolan.

We know that the Mycenaean Greek civilization depicted in Homer’s epic would eventually collapse, that there would be a Greek Dark Age with no written material, and that later the rise of Classical Greek civilization would bring about a return to writing with a new script. One strain of thought holds that this collapse was linked to the near-simultaneous collapse of several other civilizations in the region and that this may have had something to do with the Sea Peoples.

But none of this is in the text of “The Odyssey.”

This is all information that I (and many others) learned about from Eric Cline’s well-regarded 2014 book “1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed.” And Cline himself wrote a 2013 book on the Trojan War as part of the Oxford University Press Very Short Introductions series that suggests some of the linkages Nolan makes in the movie.

Nolan is incorporating it to reinterpret, recontextualize, and to a substantial extent subvert the source text, suggesting that the Greek attack on Troy sowed the seeds of Mycenaean Greece’s downfall.

Given the incredible commercial success of the film, you clearly can enjoy it without knowing much about these historical debates. I think the point Nolan is trying to make about the present is clear enough: The contemporary West risks collapse not because of external adversaries but because we are abandoning our own values.

But I enjoy a good ancient history debate, so let’s get into it anyway.

More at https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-message-behind-christopher-nolans

Download Eric Cline’s books about ancient Greece and Troy for free from here: https://z-lib.gl/s/Eric%20Cline

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 9:11 PM

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You are the one who abandoned our values, you evil little self-serving turd.

You are the problem. You were always the problem.

And now the media can't cover for you anymore and everyone knows that you are the problem.

You are a cancer on this planet and you will be removed.



The Boomers are about to die off and the world you useless fucking hippies envisioned while high off your asses 24/7 before you went Corpo and spent the next 50 years poisoning every institution from the inside out is about to die along with you.

You suck. Generations will be paying for you and what you've done for the rest of their lives and never pay it off.

Fuck you, white, college "educated", Liberal Boomer.

Good riddance. You will not be missed, and it's going to take a long time for us to clean up the fucking mess you left for us to clean up.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

You are the one who abandoned our values, you evil little self-serving turd.

You are the problem. You were always the problem.

Every Trumptard I know cheats and lies, yet they deny doing what they do. Trumptards support Trump because he does what they do.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 10:48 PM

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You are the one who abandoned our values, you evil little self-serving turd.

You are the problem. You were always the problem.

And now the media can't cover for you anymore and everyone knows that you are the problem.

You are a cancer on this planet and you will be removed.



The Boomers are about to die off and the world you useless fucking hippies envisioned while high off your asses 24/7 before you went Corpo and spent the next 50 years poisoning every institution from the inside out is about to die along with you.

You suck. Generations will be paying for you and what you've done for the rest of their lives and never pay it off.

Fuck you, white, college "educated", Liberal Boomer.

Good riddance. You will not be missed, and it's going to take a long time for us to clean up the fucking mess you left for us to clean up.

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Thursday, August 6, 2026 11:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
You are the one who abandoned our values, you evil little self-serving turd.

You are the problem. You were always the problem.

And now the media can't cover for you anymore and everyone knows that you are the problem.

You are a cancer on this planet and you will be removed.



The Boomers are about to die off and the world you useless fucking hippies envisioned while high off your asses 24/7 before you went Corpo and spent the next 50 years poisoning every institution from the inside out is about to die along with you.

You suck. Generations will be paying for you and what you've done for the rest of their lives and never pay it off.

Fuck you, white, college "educated", Liberal Boomer.

Good riddance. You will not be missed, and it's going to take a long time for us to clean up the fucking mess you left for us to clean up.

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Here is a quote from Trump. 6ix, do you agree with him?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • August 3, 2026, 9:31
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Monday was a day ending in the letter “y,” so Donald Trump spent much of the day boasting about how great he is and whining about not getting credit. At this point, most observers tune his rants out. However, the screed at the top of this post has received some attention, possibly because it was marked by a kind of purity: every one of Trump’s bombastic claims was completely, verifiably false.

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-good-news-trump-wont-mention

Repeating the question for 6ixStringJoker: Here is a quote from Trump. 6ix, do you agree with him?

6ix, if you did agree with Trump, you are even more evil than he is, which is why both of your lives are huge messes that are destructive to American prosperity.

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One Surprising Thing About The Odyssey—Its Rating

The U.S. is a relative outlier in keeping Christopher Nolan’s movie away from younger audiences.

By Sophia Nguyen | August 6, 2026, 11:52 AM ET

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/2026/08/why-is-the-odyssey-rated-r
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Christopher Nolan has directed two movies in which a soldier washes up on a foreign shore and, battle-weary and sodden, fights to return home. The first, 2017’s Dunkirk, dramatized the World War II evacuation in which thousands of Allied soldiers were killed. It received a PG-13 rating from the Motion Picture Association (MPA) for “intense war experience and some language.” The other, this summer’s The Odyssey, is a seafaring adventure that laments the atrocities of the Trojan War—and is rated R for “violence and some language.”

That R is surprising. As the translator Emily Wilson wrote in her site-crashing review for the London Review of Books, Nolan’s film is “a family-friendly audiovisual spectacle.” She meant it pejoratively. But that quality is what has prompted beleaguered English teachers across the nation to receive the film as almost a personal gift. The Odyssey is decidedly chaste, and even stars Zendaya; what better way to get students to engage with an ancient Greek text? And yet, at least while The Odyssey remains in theaters, the R restriction—which means anyone younger than 17 isn’t allowed to attend unless accompanied by an adult—cuts off the audience members who might particularly benefit from being exposed to Homer’s epic.

The United States is a relative outlier in keeping The Odyssey away from younger audiences. Among its Anglophone peers, Australia, the United Kingdom, and Ireland deemed the movie suitable for anyone older than 15; Canada gave it a PG. Much of Latin America rated it equivalent to PG-13, as did Spain, Portugal, and France. Denmark approved the film for ages 11 and up.

So what happened here? As a rule, the MPA never discusses specific titles in public. Ratings are voted on by a board composed of parents from outside the film industry, who have children from the ages of 5 to 15; they must leave the board after a term maximum of seven years, or when all of their children reach legal drinking age. “One of the huge problems with the rating system is that there’s no transparency,” Kirby Dick, a filmmaker, told me. For his 2006 documentary, This Film Is Not Yet Rated, Dick hired private detectives to suss out who sat on the board at the time. “We don’t know what their backgrounds are, what the diversity is,” said Dick. “They’re making judgments for all of the country, the entire public, and we have no idea who these people are.”

The identities of today’s raters remain secret, as do their deliberations. Their reasoning is so mysterious that, in 2018, the MPA made headlines just by posting a 46-page document outlining the basics of its history and process. Nearly a century ago, Hollywood operated under the Motion Picture Production Code, a series of self-imposed guidelines that were enforced by “a very stern and efficient Irish Catholic named Joseph I. Breen,” Thomas Doherty, a professor of American studies at Brandeis University, told me. Anyone could read its rules: “It kind of operated like case law.” The code grew defunct in the post–World War II era; in 1968, it was replaced by the film-ratings system. Today’s arrangement, styled as a consumer guide that helps families make informed choices, is more permissive than the code, but also more opaque—and more subjective.

A spokesperson for the MPA declined to make the chair of its ratings branch available for an interview, citing scheduling issues. Instead, I called up Ethan Noble, a former Miramax Films executive, and Scott Young, a former MPA senior rater, who, via their firm Motion Pictures Consulting, guide filmmakers through the ratings process. Their job is to anticipate the ratings board’s reaction to matters such as language and content. By my count, The Odyssey featured three uses of the word fuck and its variants, one of which was used to denigrate a beach. But while the movie’s ratings descriptor did highlight language, there’s no hard line governing how many times the word can be uttered before raters impose an R. In recent years, the rating board has demonstrated more flexibility, Noble told me: Today’s PG-13 movies can sometimes get away with more F-bombs, as long as the expletive isn’t “sexually derived.”

Expletives aside, though, what makes a movie “adult” can rarely be quantified. “It’s really about how these certain movies make you feel,” said Noble. Young recalled instances in which a violent scene was deemed less graphic after simple edits to the sound mix: Dial back the sounds of bones crunching or punches landing “and bring up some music, and it completely changes.” Injury and death are considered more intense when affecting a central character—someone the audience has formed an emotional attachment to. But you can mow down an army of zombies, or decapitate an orc, and get a PG-13. “Blood is a factor,” Noble added. “If the blood is red, that’s something that will easily start pushing it more towards R.”

The MPA’s squeamishness can have ironic effects: A movie that keeps the aftermath of violence off-screen, avoiding realistic depictions of what weapons do to bodies, might be open to all ages, but a movie that dwells on those consequences will likely be restricted. Take another example from the Nolan filmography: In The Dark Knight, the Joker “makes a pencil disappear” by driving it into the eye of a mob henchman. The Odyssey, too, features a memorable ocular injury, when Odysseus and company blind the cyclops Polyphemus. The former avoided the more mature rating, apparently shocking the cinematographer who shot it. Casual sadism and glib brutality can squeak by with a PG-13; the wounds of war (and, okay, one overlong scene of husbandly vengeance) can earn an R.

The PG-13 designation has always been an awkward middle child, caught between Hollywood’s clashing commercial incentives: its desire to reach a wide audience and its eagerness to avoid parental ire. Steven Spielberg first proposed the creation of a PG rating “with a little hot sauce on top” in 1984, after widespread indignation at the gory imagery in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. But over time, as superhero franchises saturated pop culture, violence once confined to R-rated movies has arguably become a staple of family entertainment. Gun violence in PG-13 movies exceeded that of R movies by 2012, according to a study from the Annenberg Public Policy Center, and it continued to rise in subsequent years. As less and less distinguished a PG-13 from an R, “the rating issue kind of dissolved,” Dan Romer, one of the study’s co-authors, told me.

Doherty, the American-studies professor, took a harsher view: The distinction between PG-13 and R “in the motion-picture industry and among exhibitors is a total joke and everybody knows it,” he said. “There are a lot of R-rated movies that are aimed at the 15-year-old kid, and everybody, everybody, knows.”

Given the substantial overlap between the two ratings, the casual viewer is left to wonder what earned The Odyssey its R. During lulls in the 172-minute run time, I’d think of the MPA’s rating descriptors, a vocabulary rich with persnickety euphemism: Would I call this flashback “mature thematic”? Was the hero, while steering past the churning waters of Charybdis, experiencing mere “action” or the more threatening “peril”? How much bare human-male backside was visible before Odysseus’s crew was transformed into pigs?
In fact, was the entire scene on Circe’s island sort of sexual? (It didn’t seem unsexual.)

Scant visible blood was spilled—surprisingly little, actually, especially considering that, at one point, a man gets bitten in half. Perhaps the script’s emphasis on the hero’s psychological scars from war left the MPA board with the impression that the film contained more vivid carnage than was actually on-screen. Watching a movie like a rater, I found, can be perversely rewarding. The exercise sharpens the senses; it heightens attention to the placement of a cut, to what’s depicted or merely implied. Who, after all, has more faith in the power of cinema than someone gauging how it might affect young minds?

Restricted movies, The Odyssey included, appeal to more people than in the past. “It used to be that the movie industry didn’t want to get an R, because it would limit the audience,” Romer told me. “I think that may be changing.” Box-office data indicate that only 4 percent of the audience was younger than 17—but as anyone who has ever been alive knows, teens always find a way. An R can make a movie feel edgier and more exciting. Perhaps it can also save a movie from feeling, suspiciously, like homework.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, August 7, 2026 12:56 PM

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its about to cross 1 Billion, Odyssey one of the top-grossing films of the year - however
then Spider-Man came along and kicked its ass

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Friday, August 7, 2026 3:41 PM

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You are the one who abandoned our values, you evil little self-serving turd.

You are the problem. You were always the problem.

And now the media can't cover for you anymore and everyone knows that you are the problem.

You are a cancer on this planet and you will be removed.



The Boomers are about to die off and the world you useless fucking hippies envisioned while high off your asses 24/7 before you went Corpo and spent the next 50 years poisoning every institution from the inside out is about to die along with you.

You suck. Generations will be paying for you and what you've done for the rest of their lives and never pay it off.

Fuck you, white, college "educated", Liberal Boomer.

Good riddance. You will not be missed, and it's going to take a long time for us to clean up the fucking mess you left for us to clean up.

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Here is a quote from Trump. 6ix, do you agree with him?

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump • August 3, 2026, 9:31
My REAL Polling Numbers, not those made up by the Fake News Media, are the best they have ever been, and why wouldn't they be with the biggest tax cuts and employment numbers EVER, the biggest outside Investment in America in World history, a totally secure Border, a giant Victory in Venezuela, the Denuclearization of Iran, unparalleled respect and success throughout the World, and much more? Don't believe the Radical Left's Fake Poll numbers. They are Crooked and Corrupt, just like the Country Destroying Dumocrats are Crooked and Corrupt. VOTE REPUBLICAN FOR GREATNESS IN AMERICA! Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DJT

Monday was a day ending in the letter “y,” so Donald Trump spent much of the day boasting about how great he is and whining about not getting credit. At this point, most observers tune his rants out. However, the screed at the top of this post has received some attention, possibly because it was marked by a kind of purity: every one of Trump’s bombastic claims was completely, verifiably false.

https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/the-good-news-trump-wont-mention

Repeating the question for 6ixStringJoker: Here is a quote from Trump. 6ix, do you agree with him?

6ix, if you did agree with Trump, you are even more evil than he is, which is why both of your lives are huge messes that are destructive to American prosperity.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two




Yeah. I agree.

I don't give a single shit what you feel. Nobody does, loser.

We're finished with you and your disgusting ilk.

Your party is dead, and you killed it.

Congratulations, Shit Golem.


Fuck Paul Krugman, and Fuck You.

Looking very much forward to watching the polls blow up in your face, again.

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Friday, August 7, 2026 3:45 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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its about to cross 1 Billion, Odyssey one of the top-grossing films of the year - however
then Spider-Man came along and kicked its ass




It's embarrassing, really. They conned a bunch of dipshit normies into thinking this yawn-fest was the must-see movie of the year, only to be destroyed 2 weeks into its run by the real must-see movie of the year.

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