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***** Sound of Freedom
Friday, September 29, 2023 7:16 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Friday, September 29, 2023 7:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Talk To Me is at $70,141,443 on BOM now, and both BOM and Bruce show the exact same amount for Domestic totals. So they're pretty much officially at 1,556% right now. But they're way behind on reporting too. Even worse than SoF in some cases. Or... It's possible they're just not playing in some of these countries anymore too. There hasn't been an update for Mexico since the $386,523 it made the weekend of Sep 8-10. That could mean it's gone after 5 weeks, but that seems like a pretty decent amount to make to just yank it. No update in the UK since Aug 18-20th, but it only made $151,116 that weekend. I dunno man... It's played for 9 weeks in the UAE that have been reported and it only made $1k on the 8th weekend and $3k on the 9th weekend. No updates since Sunday Domestically, as per usual. With how little it lost the last week, it probably lost less than 25% every day so far, so it's probably got at least $625k more here in the states by Sunday. I think I did some predictions on this a little while ago. It's hard to keep track of everything. I'm not going to do it again since it's such a PITA. I'm pretty sure I figured it would hit 1,600% before it was over though.
Quote:TTM BOM International: $22,365,361 (+$44,071 since Thursday)
Saturday, September 30, 2023 12:55 AM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Saturday, September 30, 2023 1:08 AM
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Saturday, September 30, 2023 12:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It appears that SoF was going to be released online on the 15th, but that has been postponed to "Coming Soon". https://www.geo.tv/latest/510272-sound-of-freedom-faces-online-release-delay But just like the Blue Beetle online release date, I'm not seeing any mainstream articles about this, so take it with a grain of salt. It's a good move by Angel Studios if they did that though. I'm sure it will get an online release, but no reason to do it before it has at least a few weeks in Brazil first. With $10 to $20 million incoming from Brazil, why would anybody risk losing that profit by releasing it online ahead of time unless they were Warner Bros who always seems to make poor financial decisions. Quote:I'd expect an online release for SoF sometime in mid to late October. ??? Before Spain, France, Germany? I guess. I didn't even know it was getting released there. It's not up on the-numbers or BOM. Quote:Do folk think there is no interwebs in those countries? I don't think it really matters. Europe hasn't done shit for SoF. Spaniards from Spain have about as much in common with people from Central and South America as Samuel L. Jackson has in common with some 80 year old African lady with a foot long neck living in a mud hut and communicating in tongue clicks. Those box offices are going to be small.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It appears that SoF was going to be released online on the 15th, but that has been postponed to "Coming Soon". https://www.geo.tv/latest/510272-sound-of-freedom-faces-online-release-delay But just like the Blue Beetle online release date, I'm not seeing any mainstream articles about this, so take it with a grain of salt. It's a good move by Angel Studios if they did that though. I'm sure it will get an online release, but no reason to do it before it has at least a few weeks in Brazil first. With $10 to $20 million incoming from Brazil, why would anybody risk losing that profit by releasing it online ahead of time unless they were Warner Bros who always seems to make poor financial decisions. Quote:I'd expect an online release for SoF sometime in mid to late October. ??? Before Spain, France, Germany?
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: It appears that SoF was going to be released online on the 15th, but that has been postponed to "Coming Soon". https://www.geo.tv/latest/510272-sound-of-freedom-faces-online-release-delay But just like the Blue Beetle online release date, I'm not seeing any mainstream articles about this, so take it with a grain of salt. It's a good move by Angel Studios if they did that though. I'm sure it will get an online release, but no reason to do it before it has at least a few weeks in Brazil first. With $10 to $20 million incoming from Brazil, why would anybody risk losing that profit by releasing it online ahead of time unless they were Warner Bros who always seems to make poor financial decisions. Quote:I'd expect an online release for SoF sometime in mid to late October.
Quote:I'd expect an online release for SoF sometime in mid to late October.
Quote:Do folk think there is no interwebs in those countries?
Saturday, September 30, 2023 12:57 PM
Saturday, September 30, 2023 3:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I was wondering what the International Box Office would be, using only the first week in each country, and then maybe all of the second weeks. So, as if the international releases were at the same time as Domestic - but obviously bot counting the Summer/School factors. Sound of Freedom International Box Office. I think I need to start a new table for this. Data is hard to come by, is not transparent, and seems to fluctuate a bunch. I will need to use Box Office Mojo for source data, and work from there. If other data becomes available, I will try to reconcile that. Legend: Each nation's entry is comprised of 2 lines. In the first Identifier places, the order is by the stated Release Date. Next is the Country Abbreviation. In the line below that, the Maximum number of theaters I could find for a film in that country. Then the day which they start their weekend, according to their Box Office Results. This is either Thursday or Friday. The remainder of the columns have weekday figures in the top line, and weekend figures in the 2nd line, plus the subtotals. The column labeled Date Range has the range of dates for those figures. Next column is Box Office for those dates. Next is the Rank of that Box Office figure. Next is Theater Count. Next is $ per Theater Average. Next is the Rank of the $ per Theater figure. Next is the Total, for weekdays only. Next is the 7 Day Totals, which is both lines added together. Next is the Rank of that 7 Day Total Box Office (when available, or calculated). Next is the Cumulative Total for that Country. Then are selected figures from the Prior week, to reference for comparison. Data is culled from Box Office Mojo. Countries with Asterisks are using data from The Numbers - mostly because that data is not available on BOM. Fields highlighted green are values greater than the prior week. Box Office, rank, theater count, $ per theater, rank, weekly total or subtotal. Figures highlighted red are intended to be placeholders for fields which are waiting for updated or current data.
Saturday, September 30, 2023 3:42 PM
Monday, October 2, 2023 11:03 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: One might say "But Jack! Anybody who had the Angel Studios app and saw the movie there is a supporter of the film and the studio and would never think of uploading the movie for people to download for free". Oh, special, special child... There will be plenty of people out there who would pay for temporary access to that app just to rip the movie to upload to torrent sites out of spite. Not Second though. Second never pays for anything.
Tuesday, October 3, 2023 3:33 AM
Tuesday, October 3, 2023 7:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: OK pedo.
Tuesday, October 3, 2023 11:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: OK pedo.The movie was no more expensive to make than episodes of Law & Order - Special Victims Unit. I believe the real Production Budget is much lower than the $14,500,000 reported. What happened to the difference between the real budget and the reported budget? That money was embezzled as to be expected when Trumptards are around. Crooks have got to lie and steal. It is in their DNA and culture. For further examples, see the original Trump for how that happens. https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Sound-of-Freedom-(2023)#tab=summary The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Tuesday, October 3, 2023 1:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: But if you have evidence that Sound of Freedom cost less than $14.5 Million to create I invite you to share it. It doesn't look like it's going to beat Talk To Me in the Production Budget vs. Worldwide Gross unless the budget was less than we think it was. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Tuesday, October 3, 2023 2:42 PM
Wednesday, October 4, 2023 2:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 29th): The-Numbers international update carried over from last page: Bruce took more money out of the international kitty where it shouldn't have come from. It was $9,783,953 yesterday, and now it's $9,739,756, for a difference of $44,197. International Total still remains unchanged at $27,565,724. ... Looks like it's Croatia. $246,808 now, when it was $202,611 yesterday. Russia had the $120,677 added on Wednesday, which also came out of the Rest of World. Those two changes combined were the only ones since I made the last archive on the 26th, and they both add up to the $9,904,630 shown for Rest of World then. New archive on the 29th: https://archive.ph/Gt4pu
Quote:BOM Update: The International Total at BOM raised to $34,040,139 today. This is $119,678 more than yesterday's $33,920,461.
Wednesday, October 4, 2023 2:51 AM
Wednesday, October 4, 2023 5:55 PM
Quote:Sound of Freedom is now a $230 Million movie. That's the absolute bottom going forward. This will put it up close to 1,600% with the $14.5 Million budget figure. If it somehow manages $240 Million, that would be over 1650%.
Wednesday, October 4, 2023 7:25 PM
Wednesday, October 4, 2023 8:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing. On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing. On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September. BOM updated Croatia. Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.
Thursday, October 5, 2023 2:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films. Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom? Define the details and parameters as you wish. For guidance, pedophiles and groomers have incessantly railed that Domestic BO for this film WILL NOT translate to International Box Office.
Quote:Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time. Also, I didn't know that those 17 Latino countries it released in alongside of Mexico were all 2 weeks ago instead of only 1 week, so that would lower their future take from what I initially thought they would get. I think the US Box Office is just about done, with it getting $45k on Monday and only $52k on Cheap Seat Tuesday. Likely less than a Million from the US going forward before it's pulled out of theaters. If it's lucky, it will get $185 Million in the US before it's gone, but I kind of doubt that. I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely. At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International. If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
Saturday, October 7, 2023 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: $230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing. On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing. On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September. BOM updated Croatia. Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.We know. I already posted that.
Saturday, October 7, 2023 4:38 PM
Sunday, October 8, 2023 2:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: $230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380.Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: On 29 Sep, Bruce updated Croatis, and BOM changed nothing. On 2 Oct Bruce updated NZ, Australia. BOM changed nothing. On 3 Oct Bruce updated Mexico, but the totals remained the same as 13 September. BOM updated Croatia. Today, Bruce added a buttload of new countries/territories, and added over $19.136M to the International Total.We know. I already posted that. Not quite. You did add some extra $$ in there.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Well... I know I said I wasn't following it anymore, but I misspoke. I just wasn't going to be doing daily updates anymore since most days there was nothing to update and the $15 Million added to Talk To Me not only gave it the undeniable 1st place finish without any competition but proved that all the speculation in the world about an indie movie's worldwide finish is just a complete waste of time. But it would appear that there IS something to report today. The-Numbers finally got a massive update to Sound of Freedom that was a long time coming. $230,684,308 is the new worldwide total there, up from $210,799,928 last night, for an additional $19,884,380. Back on September 12th I boldly made the following claim (and even underlined it): Quote:Sound of Freedom is now a $230 Million movie. That's the absolute bottom going forward. This will put it up close to 1,600% with the $14.5 Million budget figure. If it somehow manages $240 Million, that would be over 1650%. So there you go... Sound of Freedom's Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget is now 1,593%, rounding up to $231 Million.
Quote:Anyway, some interesting things there. Both Bruce and BOM had huge updates that day. Most of the time, these 2 sources do not have the same data or figures displayed. They almost never agree. So this was a somewhat unique window of opportunity to see some things. Bruce added West Africa and Azerbaijan, which BOM still does not list. Bruce also lists South Africa, and also South Africa/others Africa. I have never seen clear info about whether these are nation of South Africa, or continent of South Africa, grouped with West Africa, or some combination of these. I think the entry of South Africa/Others Africa as well as South Africa were both present in Bruce's figures, but only the South Africa entry got updated - at either site. The following countries had exactly the same figure displayed at both The Numbers and Box Office Mojo on 4 October: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Croatia, Ecuador, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Kuwait, Nicaragua, Oman, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Russia, Saudi Arabia, UAE, UK, Uruguay, Venezualea. Taiwan had $1 less with Bruce than BOM. At BOM, Croatia had $266,588 on 3 Oct, then $246,464 on 4 Oct, and then Bruce updated to $266,836 on 6 Oct. Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 28 Sept display for Iceland. Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 27 Sept display for Poland, Slovenia. Bruce matched the figures from BOM's 26 Sept display for Lithuania, South Africa. Bruce matched the figure from BOM's 16 Sept display for Serbia. As of 4 Oct, BOM did not have a sole, unique nation listed which Bruce did not. Taiwan was a new entry for both, having just opened.
Monday, October 9, 2023 11:57 AM
Monday, October 9, 2023 8:47 PM
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:00 PM
Quote:Pretty close to accurate so far... As I suspected back then, SoF is not going to get up to $185 Million Domestic by rounding up. Currently, it is now only $7,700 away from $184 Million, but with it grossing only $6k on Monday and $10k on Cheap Seat Tuesday and only playing in 125 theaters nationwide this week, its run is all but dead here. If it even remains in theaters next week, it's not likely to make much more than $25-$35k over the weekend, or about $50k additional maximum above the updates that Bruce had last night. Despite that, we've reached $230,953,510 worldwide already anyhow, leaving us currently at 79.67% Domestic / 20.33% International. (Real numbers, not rounding) I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International. If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International. If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International.
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 1:19 PM
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 7:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: #BelieveNoWomen Going after Russell Brand with bogus rape allegations isn't enough. Now they're going after Tim Ballard too. Fuck child rapist Democrats. Fuck the lying legacy media. Just ignore these sick motherfuckers. That's all they deserve in 2023 and going forward.
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 7:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack on Tuesday, September 19, 2023 10:32 PM: #BelieveNoWomen Going after Russell Brand with bogus rape allegations isn't enough. Now they're going after Tim Ballard too. Fuck child rapist Democrats. Fuck the lying legacy media. Just ignore these sick motherfuckers. That's all they deserve in 2023 and going forward.
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 8:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: On September 14th, I was asked this question: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films. Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom? Define the details and parameters as you wish. For guidance, pedophiles and groomers have incessantly railed that Domestic BO for this film WILL NOT translate to International Box Office. To which I replied: Quote:Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time. Also, I didn't know that those 17 Latino countries it released in alongside of Mexico were all 2 weeks ago instead of only 1 week, so that would lower their future take from what I initially thought they would get. I think the US Box Office is just about done, with it getting $45k on Monday and only $52k on Cheap Seat Tuesday. Likely less than a Million from the US going forward before it's pulled out of theaters. If it's lucky, it will get $185 Million in the US before it's gone, but I kind of doubt that. I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely. At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International. If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International. October 4th: Quote:Pretty close to accurate so far... As I suspected back then, SoF is not going to get up to $185 Million Domestic by rounding up. Currently, it is now only $7,700 away from $184 Million, but with it grossing only $6k on Monday and $10k on Cheap Seat Tuesday and only playing in 125 theaters nationwide this week, its run is all but dead here. If it even remains in theaters next week, it's not likely to make much more than $25-$35k over the weekend, or about $50k additional maximum above the updates that Bruce had last night. Despite that, we've reached $230,953,510 worldwide already anyhow, leaving us currently at 79.67% Domestic / 20.33% International. (Real numbers, not rounding) I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International. If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International. If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International. New The-Numbers Archive for SoF (10/10): https://archive.ph/lMZKl Worldwide Total (10/10): $235,177,517 (+$4,493,209 from 10/04) Australia: +$59,230 Croatia: +$20,372 Iceland (New): +$73,552 Kuwait (New): +$187,005 Lithuania (New): +$41,914 New Zealand: +13,458 Nicaragua: (New): +$198,506 Oman: (New): +$57,240 Panama: (New): +$878,772 Paraguay: (New): +$193,921 Peru: (New): +$2,906,541 Poland: (New): +$252,850 Russia: $45,373 Saudi Arabia: (New): +$2,012,189 Serbia and Montenegro: (New): +$29,526 Slovenia: (New): +$59,954 South Africa: (New): +$360,077 South Africa / Others Africa: (New): +$276,058 Taiwan: (New): +$148,089 United Arab Emerates: (New): +$801,158 United Kingdom: +$170,268 Uruguay: (New): +$390,253 Venezuela: (New): +$403,280 West Africa: (New): +$5,452 "Rest of World" is now at $3,342,490. It appears that when I took an archive of the update on 10/04, Bruce didn't have the Rest of World row. He may have added it back in the days following, but I didn't capture it. So I can't say how much that went up or down after this new update. So we've got our $235 Million Worldwide Gross floor. Will $240 Million be next? The Domestic Box Office got updated through the weekend and is nothing, just like I knew it would be. Just about $21k in only 70 theaters nationwide. I don't have the time today to try to look deep into any of these countries, and I don't think that BOM has any new info for us to go through anyway. If all $4.5 Million of that money was new (as in, within the last 7 day block and not out of the Rest of World kitty), I'd say that sure... It's going to hit $240 Million no problem in the next 2 to 3 weeks, but I have no idea how much of it is new given the current state of international reporting. We'll just have to see if we luck out with a third week in a row with international numbers after about a month with no update in between. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Tuesday, October 10, 2023 11:32 PM
Thursday, October 12, 2023 2:22 AM
Friday, October 13, 2023 2:09 PM
Wednesday, October 18, 2023 12:44 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 5th): I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International. If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International. If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International. ETA: I was originally going to say that $240 Million is the new floor, but I looked into a few of the major international countries like Mexico and the weekly dropoffs since last reported were somewhat severe. They didn't look as bad in Columbia, but it only grossed $362,312 on the weekend of Sept 21-24 there, so even with a good dropoff it's just not that much money. Really... It's all about Brazil now.
Thursday, October 19, 2023 12:46 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Congratulations to Talk To Me for being the sole member of the 2,000% club. It's still $87.4k short of that by BOM's estimates, but that shouldn't be a problem to overcome. The only real unknown here is why hasn't Bruce updated the international numbers for Talk To Me in so long? He's $21 Million behind BOM's estimates. $21 Million is nothing when you're tracking a Billion Dollar movie like Barbie or Super Mario Bros, but that's almost 20% of Talk To Me's total Worldwide Box Office. If, for some strange reason, BOM is just totally wrong about Talk To Me's international take and hasn't yet fixed the error and Bruce's numbers are correct, Talk To Me sits in 2nd place at 1,533%.
Saturday, October 21, 2023 11:55 PM
Monday, October 30, 2023 8:31 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 18th): Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (October 5th): I believe that $235 Million is the floor for SoF now. That would be 78.30% Domestic / 21.70% International. If it hits $240 Million (I'm 50/50 on this), we're at 76.67% Domestic / 23.33% International. If it somehow still manages $250 (which I highly doubt), we're at 73.6% Domestic / 26.4% International. ETA: I was originally going to say that $240 Million is the new floor, but I looked into a few of the major international countries like Mexico and the weekly dropoffs since last reported were somewhat severe. They didn't look as bad in Columbia, but it only grossed $362,312 on the weekend of Sept 21-24 there, so even with a good dropoff it's just not that much money. Really... It's all about Brazil now. Blew right by $235 Million there. The-Numbers: $238,493,286 Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/UsvXW BOM: $238,719,205 Archive (10/17): https://archive.ph/rHcwv That's around $3 to $3.3 Million more than last week after they lowered the numbers by around $700k. It's probably going to be at $240 Million by this time next week. They appear to have pushed back the digital release date to November 3rd, so there should be plenty of time left in the theaters. I'm now going to say $240 Million is pretty much a sure thing and $245 Million is better odds than a coin flip. Both of these statements are assuming it's still going to get more time in the international theaters before that digital release. Mexico's business is just about dead with only a little over $100k on weekend 7. At $245 Million, the Domestic / International split would be just around 75% / 25%.
Quote:Talk To Me's numbers... (From the 18th of October) BOM: $89,912,674 The-Numbers: $68,620,005
Thursday, November 2, 2023 12:57 PM
Tuesday, November 7, 2023 11:04 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Only $2,388,478 away from $245 Million Worldwide now. Can SoF pull it off?
Sunday, November 12, 2023 7:19 PM
Monday, November 13, 2023 10:19 PM
Wednesday, November 22, 2023 9:54 PM
Sunday, November 26, 2023 4:52 PM
Sunday, November 26, 2023 4:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: It would appear that, so far, SoF has earned more than any other film in 2023 with a budget of $38M or less. As it should. Still the best film of the year, and of the last couple years.
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 7:03 PM
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 9:53 PM
Tuesday, November 28, 2023 11:30 PM
Thursday, November 30, 2023 8:48 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: To be fair, international reporting for SoF hasn't exactly been stellar. BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now. Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date. But we're close enough where there could be some stray money coming in that hasn't yet been reported even though the movie has been available for streaming for nearly a month now. Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week. I wish Bruce would denote when a movie's numbers are actually FINAL. I've noticed when updating my spreadsheet that sometimes a movie that hasn't changed for 6 months all the sudden has a change in worldwide gross. It's usually not too drastic that far out, but it always bothers me when a flick that exited theaters back in the first half of 2023 all the sudden has a different total. I might not actually be able to say that my 2023 list is final until July of next year. -------------------------------------------------- Political correctness is just tyranny, with a smiley face.
Thursday, November 30, 2023 10:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (August 29th): I have "targets" that I expect from International, due to various factors. These are a reminder for me. They are likely to be wrong. $14 M for UK $7 M for Mexico, Australia, Brazil $5 M for Peru $3 M from NZ, Colombia, Argentina
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 3rd): JSF's $14 Million dollar prediction for the UK was insanely optimistic. I'm guessing more like $2 Million. Maybe $3 Million if it's really lucky.
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (September 14th): 6ix, You have mentioned the ratio of Domestic Box office vs. International for several films. Do you have thoughts on what the ratio will be for Sound of Freedom? Define the details and parameters as you wish.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack (September 14th): Well... I'm not quite sure how things are going to look Internationally when it's done. I still don't know what countries it will be releasing in that it hasn't already besides Brazil and Spain, and it appears it's getting new countries all the time. ... I believe that the floor for this movie Worldwide is $230 Million now, with $250 Million possible though unlikely. At $185 Million domestic rounding up and $230 Worldwide, that's 80.4% Domestic / 19.6% International. If it manages $250 Million worldwide, that's 74% Domestic / 26% International.
Friday, December 8, 2023 11:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN (30 Nov): Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now. Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date. Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week.Hong Kong release date was 23 Nov. $71K in opening weekend in 1 city, ranked 7. Oct 31 for Spain. 26/27 Oct for Norway, Netherlands. 10 Nov for Germany, Austria. 25 Nov for France. These are all still churning Box Office. I expect another half Million when those have their next update. Which is another 3.5% of PB, even if you can't math. HK and France just had opening weekends. None of this is "stray money" Actually, I expect $.4M - France, $82K - Neth, $70K - HK. So, at least $552K more from the next update. Like 4% of PB. For 1 week. $249,152K is 1,718% of $14.5M $249,704K will be 1,722% of $14.5M Right now BOM still shows $247,801,971. Bruce still shows $249,152,645 with rest at $13,087,920.
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: BoxOfficeMojo only has $247,801,971 reported right now. Bruce still has $13,142,678 in "Rest of World" that hasn't been allocated, so there's no guarantee that France and Germany haven't already been counted yet and all the international money is actually up to date. Don't be surprised if you see the box office for SoF actually fall from one week to the next too. Super Mario Bros would rise a million one week and then fall a million the very next week and it bounced around for a few months. I don't ever expect huge Million dollar bounces for SoF since it made less than 1/5th of what SMB made worldwide, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it lose $200k in a week.
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