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***** Sound of Freedom
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:27 PM
JEWELSTAITEFAN
Quote:I have failed to mention things Inoticed when I watched Soound of Freedom a second time. The music, score were beautiful, poignant, and haunting. If the same piece, the final time has lyrics, which are translated to English and shown in subscript. Alannah De La Rossa is listed in the credits, but I didn't catch exactly what the credit was. It was after character credits, with a group of Stand-In credits. Many of the actors on the imdb page now have pictures, images - before they were mostly blank. The imdb page for Cristal Aparicio as Rocio now has photos, from her screen shots in Sound of Freedom, which obviously were 5 years ago. I forgot to mention the first time that the credits do include a list of the THOUSANDS of individuals and families who supported or contributed or funded this production, or it's Distribution campaign - this may be the "crowd-funding" apparatus I have read about. These are listed primarily in alphabetical order. Again this second time, nobody left the theater during the countdown to the Special Message.
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 7:36 PM
Wednesday, July 5, 2023 11:01 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Mojo and Numbers were asleep most of the day, making no mention at all about this film on Opening Day. HITC had some info. It says it is a "Low Budget" film at $25 million to produce. It is expected to make about $20 million in it's first 6 days of release. Opening in 2,600 theaters. They also mentioned that the studio had admitted they had $10 million of pre-sold tickets.
Quote:Also, the 2nd-10th films (for July 4) combined contributed less than $9 million to the Box Office for Tuesday.
Quote:Sound of Freedom earned over $5,400 per theater. I don't recall how good that is.
Quote: Later in the day, Numbers woke up and reported &14.2 million Box Office on Tuesday. AFAICT, this makes it the 5th ranked Domestic Tuesday Opening Box Office in history. 1. Spiderman 2019 ($39.2) 2. Transformers 2007 ($27.8) 3. Les Miserables 2012 ($18.1) 4. DJango Unchained 2012 ($15.0) 5. Sound of Freedom 2023 ($14.2)
Thursday, July 6, 2023 6:40 AM
JAYNEZTOWN
Thursday, July 6, 2023 5:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward.
Thursday, July 6, 2023 5:27 PM
Thursday, July 6, 2023 7:39 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Thursday, July 6, 2023 7:51 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: The lead actress, the female with the most screen time, is Alanna De La Rossa, and she would have been 8 or 9 during filming.
Thursday, July 6, 2023 8:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Mojo and Numbers were asleep most of the day, making no mention at all about this film on Opening Day. HITC had some info. It says it is a "Low Budget" film at $25 million to produce. It is expected to make about $20 million in it's first 6 days of release. Opening in 2,600 theaters. They also mentioned that the studio had admitted they had $10 million of pre-sold tickets.For the most part, the actual numbers are even better than what you were told... https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2023/7/anee9p5qc0z1dy8iedjt0rfp5972z3 And yeah... I didn't hear shit about this movie until just now, only noticing that you made a post about it after I posted about it in the Indiana Jones failure thread. The budget was a lean $15 Million, so in one single day it only came up less than $800k short of that. I'm assuming that there was near zero marketing budget since I've never even heard of it before, but it should have no problem doubling the production budget, pretty quickly. Quote:Also, the 2nd-10th films (for July 4) combined contributed less than $9 million to the Box Office for Tuesday.This is incorrect. Indy 5 alone made $11,698,989 on Tuesday, but it was still knocked out of 1st place on its 5th day in the box office by Sound of Freedom, which is going to be a source of very much laughter from the YT community when they realize this is the case.
Quote:Quote:Sound of Freedom earned over $5,400 per theater. I don't recall how good that is.For a movie with a $15 million budget that wasn't advertised, this is FANTASTIC. To put it in perspective, Indy 5, with a budget 20 times as large, only grossed $5,148 per theater on opening night, and it had a $300 Million production budget (But Indy 5 is a huge bomb). Avatar 2 (Not a bomb), made $12,661 per theater on opening night, but it also had a reported $460 Million budget, which was over 30 times as large as Sound of Freedom's budget.Quote:Later in the day, Numbers woke up and reported &14.2 million Box Office on Tuesday. AFAICT, this makes it the 5th ranked Domestic Tuesday Opening Box Office in history. 1. Spiderman 2019 ($39.2) 2. Transformers 2007 ($27.8) 3. Les Miserables 2012 ($18.1) 4. DJango Unchained 2012 ($15.0) 5. Sound of Freedom 2023 ($14.2)Though this may be true, it's kind of reaching, IMO. I don't imagine the list of movies that were released on a Tuesday in the history of US cinema is a very long one. That being said, it is the 55th highest grossing Tuesday in the US box office of all time, which IS very impressive when you look at the list of 54 movies that topped it on what for most of them would be their 5th day of release and you realize how big all of their production budgets were compared to Sound of Freedom. https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/best-performance-by-day-of-the-week/tuesday I mean, number 1 on that list is Spider-Man: Far From Home at $39,255,628, and that had a $160 Million production budget. Avatar 2's first Tuesday was only $24,128,503, and like I mentioned before, that had a $460 Million budget. I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Quote:Later in the day, Numbers woke up and reported &14.2 million Box Office on Tuesday. AFAICT, this makes it the 5th ranked Domestic Tuesday Opening Box Office in history. 1. Spiderman 2019 ($39.2) 2. Transformers 2007 ($27.8) 3. Les Miserables 2012 ($18.1) 4. DJango Unchained 2012 ($15.0) 5. Sound of Freedom 2023 ($14.2)
Thursday, July 6, 2023 9:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Does this qualify as a Low Budget film for 6ix?
Friday, July 7, 2023 3:48 PM
Friday, July 7, 2023 3:51 PM
Saturday, July 8, 2023 9:39 AM
WHOZIT
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: In 3 days, almost up to $22M Box Office. $1,400 per theater on a Thursday, when honest folk are busy working for a living. Remember, Tuesday shows were Sold Out an hour before showtimes.
Sunday, July 9, 2023 3:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything. No numbers on Indy yet, but that's another correct prediction. $3,697,749 on Thursday, for a grand total of $21,987,370 in only 3 days for Sound of Freedom. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Monday, July 10, 2023 7:44 PM
Quote: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
Monday, July 10, 2023 8:14 PM
Monday, July 10, 2023 9:47 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure?
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:16 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I think the green numbers at The Numbers is prelim or estimated figures, and black are the real figures. They just turned black for the weekend. Sunday SoF jumped up to highest take per screen, beating Indy5 and Red Door. It was estimated behind Red Door. Also, every single day since release, SoF has more $ per screen that Indy5. Even when it added more than 13% more theaters for the weekend.
Quote: Quote: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure?
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:22 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure? Interesting find there, that SoF took more per screen than Insidious did on Sunday. I didn't see that until you pointed it out, and I haven't heard anybody mention it. Nice catch. No. It won't even put a dent in MI:7 (8 doesn't come out until 2024). Tom Cruise is still Box Office gold and the MI franchise is an easy win against any of the movies that have come out in 2023 except possibly the SMB phenomenon. Maybe I'm wrong about SoF. I don't want to be. I want this movie to succeed beyond anyone's expectations. But it does have two huge things going against it... 1. The entire Legacy Media is telling the normies not to go see it. 2. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I hear from people who sing its praises is that it's not an easy watch. Unless people are going back to see it again while dragging other people to see it, I can't imagine a lot of people thinking "boy. I'm so excited to see this movie for a second time.".
Quote: I mean, I liked Joker quite a bit more than most movies I've seen in the last decade, but it was a grueling watch and I don't ever intend to watch it again. And that movie wasn't based at all on reality. I wish SoF all the best, and I do hope that I'm wrong and it has a very long run and educates a lot of people who've still got the blinders on. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:42 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I should have mentioned 2000 Mules, but that was Documentary.
Tuesday, July 11, 2023 10:18 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday?
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe I'm wrong about SoF. I don't want to be. I want this movie to succeed beyond anyone's expectations. But it does have two huge things going against it... 1. The entire Legacy Media is telling the normies not to go see it. 2. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I hear from people who sing its praises is that it's not an easy watch. Unless people are going back to see it again while dragging other people to see it, I can't imagine a lot of people thinking "boy. I'm so excited to see this movie for a second time.". 1. I didn't know this.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Maybe I'm wrong about SoF. I don't want to be. I want this movie to succeed beyond anyone's expectations. But it does have two huge things going against it... 1. The entire Legacy Media is telling the normies not to go see it. 2. I haven't seen it yet, but from what I hear from people who sing its praises is that it's not an easy watch. Unless people are going back to see it again while dragging other people to see it, I can't imagine a lot of people thinking "boy. I'm so excited to see this movie for a second time.".
Quote:Does this mean that only folk who can think are allowed to watch it? That can seriously cut down on the potential saturation of audience. Let's see.... With about 267 million above 16, minus 85 million who supposedly are not allowed to think, that leaves only 182 million to see the film.
Quote:2. I do plan on seeing Sound of Freedom again, in cinema. The action, adventure is good, all the more due to being True Story. I plan to see at lest one film next Sunday. Either Dead Reckoning or SoF, or both.
Thursday, July 13, 2023 4:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday? Yeah... That's not going to be fair at all. Not so much unfair, but not really a useful comparison. Well... looking at The-Numbers right now and being amazed that SoF took 1st place again on Monday with a whopping $4 Million, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drop for Wednesday will be negligible. In fact, I wonder if it would be a first time where a movie made more on a weekday during its second week than it did 7 days prior if that were to happen. Why do I think it might actually make more this Wednesday than last? Well take a look at any of the other movies playing right now that have had a decent box office, and then look at the money they made on Thursday night and tell me how many made more than that on the following Monday. SPOILER ALERT: I see a few, but I don't think the extra money that Elemental made on Monday July 3rd counts with the holiday weekend. I certainly wouldn't count the Miles Morales sequel making more on Juneteenth than it did the previous Thursday. I don't think that Fast X making more on Memorial Day than the previous Thursday counts either. But Sound of Freedom just did it. Taking 1st place from both Indy 5 and the weekend winner on Monday with $4,000,345 is extremely impressive when you consider that it only made $3,697,749 on the previous Thursday. It only fell $47k short of beating last Wednesday's number yesterday too. So although I'd love to just tell you it's going to beat last Wednesday, I can't say that for sure. But if it doesn't, I don't see the loss being in the double digits. I am cautiously optimistic that it will gross more this Wednesday than it did last Wednesday.
Thursday, July 13, 2023 5:40 PM
Quote: Quote: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure? -------------------------------------------- Sound of Freedom is currently listed by the Numbers as having the 6th most theaters showing it, after bumping up that figure for the weekend. First place for the day, again. 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday? I forgot to note that Sunday SoF was the only film to have greater Box Office than on Saturday. Yes, today Indy 5 is in 3rd place with Monday's Box Office.
Thursday, July 13, 2023 5:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday?Yeah... That's not going to be fair at all. Not so much unfair, but not really a useful comparison. Well... looking at The-Numbers right now and being amazed that SoF took 1st place again on Monday with a whopping $4 Million, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drop for Wednesday will be negligible. In fact, I wonder if it would be a first time where a movie made more on a weekday during its second week than it did 7 days prior if that were to happen. Why do I think it might actually make more this Wednesday than last? Well take a look at any of the other movies playing right now that have had a decent box office, and then look at the money they made on Thursday night and tell me how many made more than that on the following Monday. SPOILER ALERT: I see a few, but I don't think the extra money that Elemental made on Monday July 3rd counts with the holiday weekend. I certainly wouldn't count the Miles Morales sequel making more on Juneteenth than it did the previous Thursday. I don't think that Fast X making more on Memorial Day than the previous Thursday counts either. But Sound of Freedom just did it. Taking 1st place from both Indy 5 and the weekend winner on Monday with $4,000,345 is extremely impressive when you consider that it only made $3,697,749 on the previous Thursday. It only fell $47k short of beating last Wednesday's number yesterday too. So although I'd love to just tell you it's going to beat last Wednesday, I can't say that for sure. But if it doesn't, I don't see the loss being in the double digits. I am cautiously optimistic that it will gross more this Wednesday than it did last Wednesday.Yeah... I'm getting pretty good at this. Wednesday, July 5th: $4,047,558 Wednesday, July 12th: $4,424,714 That's a 9% increase from last week. (And I REALLY would love to know if that has ever happened to another movie that wasn't caused by either a holiday or a limited release film going wide release after it was tested out. It probably has, but I'd love to see the stats on that). I didn't know if it was going to do it, because yesterday was Cheap Seat Tuesday. Almost nothing ever makes more money on Wednesday than it did on Tuesday. Take a look at Wednesday's numbers. SoF is the ONLY movie other than Super Mario Bros that did better yesterday than on Cheap Seat Tuesday. (And that was just a 3% increase on $11,410 from Tuesday, so it's hardly even worth mentioning...) https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-chart/daily/2023/07/12 SoF had a 16% increase from Tuesday, where it looks like the average loss from Tuesday to Wednesday for every other movie in the theater was around 25%. It should also be noted that even though SoF had no prayer of beating MI7 and likely never will for even a single day (words I don't imagine I'll be eating), now that we know Preview Night numbers are wrapped up into opening night numbers, MI7 made $8,516,660 on Wednesday night, and $7,000,000 on Tuesday night for a grand total of $15,516,660. SoF is holding its own against the its first actual successful blockbuster with a same two-day total of $8,253,957, or 53.2% of what MI7 pulled in. Not to shabby against a 27-year-old-and-still-going-strong Tom Cruise franchise movie that had a 2071% higher production budget. -------------------------------------------------- How you do anything is how you do everything.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday?Yeah... That's not going to be fair at all. Not so much unfair, but not really a useful comparison. Well... looking at The-Numbers right now and being amazed that SoF took 1st place again on Monday with a whopping $4 Million, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drop for Wednesday will be negligible. In fact, I wonder if it would be a first time where a movie made more on a weekday during its second week than it did 7 days prior if that were to happen. Why do I think it might actually make more this Wednesday than last? Well take a look at any of the other movies playing right now that have had a decent box office, and then look at the money they made on Thursday night and tell me how many made more than that on the following Monday. SPOILER ALERT: I see a few, but I don't think the extra money that Elemental made on Monday July 3rd counts with the holiday weekend. I certainly wouldn't count the Miles Morales sequel making more on Juneteenth than it did the previous Thursday. I don't think that Fast X making more on Memorial Day than the previous Thursday counts either. But Sound of Freedom just did it. Taking 1st place from both Indy 5 and the weekend winner on Monday with $4,000,345 is extremely impressive when you consider that it only made $3,697,749 on the previous Thursday. It only fell $47k short of beating last Wednesday's number yesterday too. So although I'd love to just tell you it's going to beat last Wednesday, I can't say that for sure. But if it doesn't, I don't see the loss being in the double digits. I am cautiously optimistic that it will gross more this Wednesday than it did last Wednesday.
Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: SoF had an increase of # Theaters by more than 13% over the first week. An increase of 9% doesn't seem like much, but maybe the later showing at midnight for Dead Reckoning had an effect. Still, 2 Tuesdays in a row being #1 in Box Office, and #1 in $ per Theater.
Quote:You might be looking for other films which did not get all the seats they could in the first week, and then got more due to demand in the next week. I'm not sure if Maverick was like that, it had a slow rollout due to low critic scores, but word of mouth ramped it up. I think that 2000 Mules also had more theaters in it's 2nd week, just because it couldn't get as many theaters it wanted in the first week. These do not fit the mold of "Limited Release" - just an increase of theaters on the second week.
Quote:I was curious if SoF had the same number of theaters that it had over the weekend, and it does. I am curious how many theaters it will have come Friday - more? or less?
Thursday, July 13, 2023 8:42 PM
Thursday, July 13, 2023 11:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: I think I saw that a bunch of films lost theater count on Wednesday, due to Dead Reckoning scarfing them up.
Quote:But your point is regarding Fridays, which is often the normal day for new movies to premiere.
Friday, July 14, 2023 8:52 PM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Saturday, July 15, 2023 4:30 PM
Quote:Quote:I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure?
Quote:I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday.
Monday, July 17, 2023 8:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days.No numbers on Indy yet, but that's another correct prediction. $3,697,749 on Thursday, for a grand total of $21,987,370 in only 3 days for Sound of Freedom.Though it looks to have taken only 3rd place this weekend like Bruce predicted it would from the previews, it will cross $40 Million in only 6 days, which is double what they thought it would in that time frame. I've also now heard that the budget was as low as $14 Million, and not the $20 Million that was initially reported. Either way, it's already overcome the rule of thumb, grossing over $40 Million over a $20 Million budget. Given that there was hardly any marketing budget at all spent on this, if that $14 Million production budget is true it's already made some decent money in under a week. I still think this was quite a heavily front loaded movie as far as attendance goes, but it should remain in theaters at least as long as Angel Studio's 1st movie earlier this year, which means it will probably get about 4 or 5 weeks in the box office. I could see it making $60 to $70 million in ticket sales by that time. Not bad for a movie nobody knew about that doesn't appear to have gotten any kind of international release. Who knows? If word of mouth on this thing is strong it might even do better than that.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days.No numbers on Indy yet, but that's another correct prediction. $3,697,749 on Thursday, for a grand total of $21,987,370 in only 3 days for Sound of Freedom.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. And no matter what happens, it will be the movie that embarrassed Indiana Jones, Disney, Lucasfilm, Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy by taking the crown from their most expensive movie of 2023 in only it's 5th day in the theaters. An amazing feat, even if we don't see it repeated again this weekend or otherwise going forward. It didn't beat Indy 5 yesterday, but it did do another $4,047,558 in business, giving it $18,289,621 in only 2 days. It's going to sleepwalk past $20 Million in only 3 days.
Monday, July 17, 2023 8:52 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 4:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: 6ix, what do you expect to see for it's Last Week drop %? when Tuesday numbers come out? Since that might not be fair, having July 4 a day off and all, what do you expect to see as the Last Week drop on Wednesday? Yeah... That's not going to be fair at all. Not so much unfair, but not really a useful comparison. Well... looking at The-Numbers right now and being amazed that SoF took 1st place again on Monday with a whopping $4 Million, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that the drop for Wednesday will be negligible. In fact, I wonder if it would be a first time where a movie made more on a weekday during its second week than it did 7 days prior if that were to happen. Why do I think it might actually make more this Wednesday than last? Well take a look at any of the other movies playing right now that have had a decent box office, and then look at the money they made on Thursday night and tell me how many made more than that on the following Monday. SPOILER ALERT: I see a few, but I don't think the extra money that Elemental made on Monday July 3rd counts with the holiday weekend. I certainly wouldn't count the Miles Morales sequel making more on Juneteenth than it did the previous Thursday. I don't think that Fast X making more on Memorial Day than the previous Thursday counts either. But Sound of Freedom just did it. Taking 1st place from both Indy 5 and the weekend winner on Monday with $4,000,345 is extremely impressive when you consider that it only made $3,697,749 on the previous Thursday. It only fell $47k short of beating last Wednesday's number yesterday too. So although I'd love to just tell you it's going to beat last Wednesday, I can't say that for sure. But if it doesn't, I don't see the loss being in the double digits. I am cautiously optimistic that it will gross more this Wednesday than it did last Wednesday.It should also be noted that even though SoF had no prayer of beating MI7 and likely never will for even a single day (words I don't imagine I'll be eating), now that we know Preview Night numbers are wrapped up into opening night numbers, MI7 made $8,516,660 on Wednesday night, and $7,000,000 on Tuesday night for a grand total of $15,516,660. SoF is holding its own against the its first actual successful blockbuster with a same two-day total of $8,253,957, or 53.2% of what MI7 pulled in. Not to shabby against a 27-year-old-and-still-going-strong Tom Cruise franchise movie that had a 2071% higher production budget.
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 4:40 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 7:34 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 8:45 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 10:57 PM
Quote:I fully expect SoF to jump from 10 to 6 by the end of the weekend on the 2nd list. It would have been 5th, but until/unless The Red Door slows down faster, it's going to be behind. Congratulations to The Red Door for coming out of nowhere and taking 1st place on the first list, for highest grossing opening weekend worldwide vs. production budget. Keep in mind that Sound of Freedom is the only movie on this list that didn't have a worldwide box office, and all of these numbers are just from the US Box office... Otherwise, I think it had a very good chance of taking 1st place above The Red Door. I'm not even sure if SoF was shown in Canada or not, tbh...
Quote:So... I was wrong with my prediction SoF wouldn't gain many, if any theaters this weekend. Bruce is reporting 3,265 theaters this week, for a whopping increase of 413 theaters. I've never seen this happen two weekends in a row like this before. Hopefully it doesn't drop the ball. I still think it will be 6th place after this weekend, unless The Red Door suddenly flops. I don't see any possibility of SoF catching up with Miles Morales 2 by Sunday night, even with the additional theaters. There are 2 reasons why I say only 6th place for the weekend for SoF. Number 1 is because Insidious: The Red Door started out of the gates as the 1st place movie all year regarding the ratio of Worldwide Box Office vs. Production Budget and hasn't really slowed down all that much. SoF is going to have to catch up to that. It may take another week or two. Number 2 is because there's a huge difference between the current #4 and numbers 5-9 which are all in the 400-500% range. The Miles Morales sequel is 646%. It's slowed down to only $1 Million during weekdays and only had $2-3 Million per day last weekend, so SoF will gain quickly on it if it doesn't falter, but MM2 is still improving that ratio on what is already a decent gap. It will be 10 days to over two weeks before SoF catches up to it. 3rd place is Evil Dead Rise, which will not improve since it's out of theaters, but it's at 768%, so it will take even longer to reach that. M3GAN and SMB are light years away. I'm not saying that SoF won't catch up to them, but they've both got about 1000% on SoF right now.
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:01 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Have you seen it yet?
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:07 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Why go to a theater to see Sound of Freedom? It is available for free:
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:18 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:21 PM
Tuesday, July 18, 2023 11:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Uh huh.
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 1:28 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Uh huh. I remember your praise for Joker, a movie about a serial killer clown. Your taste in movies is disturbing. To quote you: "Prepare to be extremely uncomfortable for 122 straight minutes." - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=36&tid=63327&mid=1095892#1095892 'Joker' or 'Sound of Freedom' or 'Nonstop Vomiting and Diarrhea' are all equally undesirable experiences, but to pay in order to see 'Sound of Freedom' makes the experience worse. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 12:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It should also be noted that even though SoF had no prayer of beating MI7 and likely never will for even a single day (words I don't imagine I'll be eating), now that we know Preview Night numbers are wrapped up into opening night numbers, MI7 made $8,516,660 on Wednesday night, and $7,000,000 on Tuesday night for a grand total of $15,516,660. SoF is holding its own against the its first actual successful blockbuster with a same two-day total of $8,253,957, or 53.2% of what MI7 pulled in. Not to shabby against a 27-year-old-and-still-going-strong Tom Cruise franchise movie that had a 2071% higher production budget. Quoted for the brazen and bold prediction. On the 6th day of release for Dead Reckoning, DR earned an average of $1,226 per theater. Sound of Freedom earned $1,518 per theater, on it's 2nd Monday.
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: It should also be noted that even though SoF had no prayer of beating MI7 and likely never will for even a single day (words I don't imagine I'll be eating), now that we know Preview Night numbers are wrapped up into opening night numbers, MI7 made $8,516,660 on Wednesday night, and $7,000,000 on Tuesday night for a grand total of $15,516,660. SoF is holding its own against the its first actual successful blockbuster with a same two-day total of $8,253,957, or 53.2% of what MI7 pulled in. Not to shabby against a 27-year-old-and-still-going-strong Tom Cruise franchise movie that had a 2071% higher production budget.
Quote:How many days before DR falls below SoF in Domestic Box Office? I think it will hold for Tuesday, but watch out Wednesday.
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 7:43 PM
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 8:42 PM
Quote:Quote:I suspect that this movie was pretty front-loaded on viewership and don't really expect it to stay in theaters all that long, but with good word of mouth it should have a pretty decent first weekend in theaters and very easily jump past that predicted $20 Million in the first 6 days of release with more than $14.2 Million already under its belt on Tuesday. So, this front-loading theory of yours - how long does it last? Does it pull ahead of Red Door $/screen over the weekend? I don't expect it to take out MI:8. Will SoF fall behind Indy5 and Red Door in $/screen? How else do you measure? ------------------------------ I've been poking around the Bruce Wokenash site the last few weeks. I noticed that when the undisputed #1 has figures released, he marks it as #1 right away, and those beneath it remain unranked until further confirmed. Usually the top 4 get ranked after SoF figures are posted. However, today when DR figures were posted, it did not have the #1 ranking yet, because Wokenash was finally uncertain enough that SoF had not been better. I found that humorous.
Wednesday, July 19, 2023 8:55 PM
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Thursday, July 20, 2023 3:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: At a 42% increase from last Tuesday, that marks a full 7 days where it made more money than it did the week prior. (9%, 24%, 44%, 42%, 31%, 24%, 42%) If there is another movie that has done this in the past, I'd love to know what it is.
Quote:686% of Production Budget now, up from 650% yesterday. It's now 5th place on the list of Worldwide Box Office vs Production Budget, and it still hasn't been released anywhere outside of the US. It will overtake Evil Dead Rise for 4th place on the list Friday night. And with Insidious: The Red Door finally slowing down, it shouldn't be long before it catches up and takes 3rd place. I:tRD increased from 775% to 788% last night. (36% vs 13% is nearly a 3-to-1 increase for SoF over I:tRD. If SoF doesn't catch Insidious by Sunday night, it almost certainly will when we get Monday's numbers. And at that point it should only be less than 500% away from SMB and probably almost exactly 600% under M3GAN.
Thursday, July 20, 2023 5:53 PM
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