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Most typecast actor?

POSTED BY: MENELUIN
UPDATED: Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:41
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Saturday, May 22, 2004 9:13 PM

MENELUIN


I was just reading over this thread about Nathan Fillion playing a bad guy: http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=7&t=3943

And..... it led me to thinking-- which if our Firefly actors is most typecast due to their role and why?

I'm not really sure about it myself, but I'd have to say MB will at least always be remembered as very good looking. Alan Tudyk is just so adorable as Wash and obviously added a lot of that to the character himself, he might have a problem shedding the image.

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:12 AM

HORRID


I'm not sure how much of a burden being typecast as very good looking would be

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 4:54 AM

ECGORDON

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I think that all of the Firefly actors are versatile enough that typecasting should not be a problem. The problem will lie more in the realm of us fans not wanting to see them in anything non-Firefly for a long, long time.




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Sunday, May 23, 2004 7:14 AM

ZOID



Meneluin, and friendly folk:

When I saw the title for this thread, I thought someone was trying to point out that Adam Baldwin has been typecast throughout his career. Then I read along and -- while Meneluin may have been playing it coy -- nobody else bit. So I will.

Adam "Jayne" Baldwin (I get the feeling he wouldn't mind that nickname) has been typecast as the terse, somewhat slow-witted enforcer since his first feature role. In "My Bodyguard" he plays the teen-aged behemoth everyone fears in school, who is actually a gentle giant (there's more to the story, but go watch it yourself if you wanna know what the 'more' is).

In 2000's "The Patriot", a big budget prod by Mel Gibson, Adam plays a Redcoat officer torn between his morals and his duty to King (notably, lunatical George III) and Country. The best part of the movie is that Heath Ledger, professional heartthrob, manages to get himself killed fairly early on. I do love movies in which the pretty boy gets offed: the little whispers across the theater and then the boyfriends/husbands dejectedly following their dates/wives out of the screening room, heh-heh. (Oooh, I hope that doesn't spoil the flick for anyone? Again, I say, 'heh-heh'.) Guys with some shred of independence or dignity left will enjoy watching this film, albeit (because?) without the company of their significant others. Filmmakers remember: Heath Ledger dying 1/3 of the way into movie = death at box office/DVD sales. Girls talk...

Mister Baldwin also appeared as Major Mitchell in the fantastically profitable "Independence Day", a movie which seems to have benefited Will Smith professionally more than the others in the cast combined, if you savvy my drift. Major Mitchell is a single-minded (e.g., 'flat' character) enforcer. (BTW, since that's how zoid's convoluted memory/reasoning process works, did y'all know that when someone asks, "You savvy?" it's an Americanization of "Savez-vous?", which means "(Do) you know?". Um, please pay no attention to the man behind my mental curtain, working the creaking and clanking machinery.)

From the oft-mentioned "Animal Mother" in Kubrick's "Full Metal Jacket", to bit parts as one of the McLaurys in Costner's "Wyatt Earp" and the evil, alcoholic, abusive father in "Radio Flyer", Adam has been cast as a one-dimensional physical type. While he's done tons of movies and some of them may have been romantic leading parts -- or even doctors and lawyers and such, to borrow from Willie Nelson -- the vast majority of these films must be considered, well, crap. Because I'd just as soon not have Mr. Baldwin pounding sand up my for that last comment, allow me to quickly interject that the failing of those movies was undoubtedly poor production, direction and low budgets (whew! Is he scowling? Let me know if I need to run; he doesn't look as agile or 'lithe' as me.) Some might criticize an actor for appearing in so many 'quality-challenged' movies, but hey, it pays the rent (and buys the Castlemaine XXXX, non?) and I've got nothing against a guy who supports his wife and children.

Adam has got two movies coming out (post-production, according to IMDB) in 2004, one of which includes Mark Sheppard (aka 'Badger'). Whether they perpetuate Mr. Baldwin's typecasting and history of appearing in 'economically budgeted' films, or whether they include roles for him that explore other aspects of his personality, is not readily apparent from the cryptic remarks I've been able to find.

One way or the other, I'll say without a trace of subterfuge that I consider him a damfine actor, and opine that it's a shame he hasn't been afforded an opportunity to flex his thespian muscles as much as his physical ones.

Here endeth the meandering sermon. Y'all have a great Sunday.


Respectfully,

zoid
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Sunday, May 23, 2004 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Meneluin:


I'm not really sure about it myself, but I'd have to say MB will at least always be remembered as very good looking. Alan Tudyk is just so adorable as Wash and obviously added a lot of that to the character himself, he might have a problem shedding the image.

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I don't think that Alan will have too much of a problem especially since in 28 days he was a sex-aholic substance abusing german homosexual and in A Knights Tale he was a man who desperately needed anger management

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