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Bad writers go on strike, late night talk is doomed

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Tuesday, May 2, 2023 3:52 PM

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 12:20 AM

BRENDA


The next season of Nathan's show "The Rookie" will be delayed. I just watched the season 5 ender tonight. They went out with a bang for sure.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:52 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm loving the Late Night thing.

There's way too many of those shows today anyhow. The last two great Late Night comedians were Craig Ferguson and Conan. Everyone else since has been trash.

Hopefully when the dust settles all but one or two of them are gone and cancelled.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:34 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm loving the Late Night thing.

There's way too many of those shows today anyhow. The last two great Late Night comedians were Craig Ferguson and Conan. Everyone else since has been trash.

Hopefully when the dust settles all but one or two of them are gone and cancelled.

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Late night chat is not healthy, ratings have tanked. When Cordon left they didn't replace him on 'The Late Late Show, the show's been canceled. Because Disney/ABC is on hard times I wouldn't be shocked if Kimmel gets the axe...or lets him retire, if ya know what I mean. The ratings for these shows have been under 2 million viewers, (Kimmel under 1.5 million) the hosts make tens of millions of dollars a year, if the strike goes on for months will anybody care if these shows come back?

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Thursday, May 4, 2023 5:38 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Un-funny Comedian to join the poverty line?

I thought comedians should be able to write their own material

2007–08 Writers Guild strike cased disruption, some show were prepared and pre ordered script other delayed the show for a year. Maybe they will just go to a bunch of computer guys in Cambodia, Peru, Georgia, Albania, Kenya, Vietnam or some place and ask them to chat with an AI all day and get the Robot to write the next tv show comedy.

The Robot it might even do a better job than our unfunny hive mind comedians

'From Bond to Heroes: what was affected by the 2007 writers’ strike?'

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/may/04/2007-writers-strike-bo
nd-movie-heroes


Actor Rob Lowe joins writers' picket line in Los Angeles

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65475111


A writers' strike is bearing down on Hollywood.
https://www.businessinsider.com/hollywood-writers-strike-winners-loser
s-netflix-disney-warner-bros-discovery-2023-3

Here's how Netflix, Amazon, Disney+, and other streamers are armed for a work stoppage.


WGA strike day 2: Hollywood writers concerned AI will take their jobs

https://www.foxla.com/news/wga-writers-strike-day-2

The union remains at an impasse with Hollywood studios over a host of labor issues


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Thursday, May 4, 2023 12:13 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Un-funny Comedian to join the poverty line?

I thought comedians should be able to write their own material

2007–08 Writers Guild strike cased disruption, some show were prepared and pre ordered script other delayed the show for a year. Maybe they will just go to a bunch of computer guys in Cambodia, Peru, Georgia, Albania, Kenya, Vietnam or some place and ask them to chat with an AI all day and get the Robot to write the next tv show comedy.

The Robot it might even do a better job than our unfunny hive mind comedians

'From Bond to Heroes: what was affected by the 2007 writers’ strike?'

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/may/04/2007-writers-strike-bo
nd-movie-heroes


Actor Rob Lowe joins writers' picket line in Los Angeles

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-65475111


A writers' strike is bearing down on Hollywood.
https://www.businessinsider.com/hollywood-writers-strike-winners-loser
s-netflix-disney-warner-bros-discovery-2023-3

Here's how Netflix, Amazon, Disney+, and other streamers are armed for a work stoppage.


WGA strike day 2: Hollywood writers concerned AI will take their jobs

https://www.foxla.com/news/wga-writers-strike-day-2

The union remains at an impasse with Hollywood studios over a host of labor issues




You would think that the show could go on, they come out and just do off the cuff interviews, but it looks like these dorks couldn't ad-lib a burp at Burger King.

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Monday, May 15, 2023 2:53 PM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Monday, May 15, 2023 5:50 PM

WHOZIT


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Why use of AI is a major sticking point in the ongoing writers' strike

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2373382-why-use-of-ai-is-a-major-
sticking-point-in-the-ongoing-writers-strike/



Shows written by an AI would likely be better than most of the crap on streaming now, maybe an AI could fix 'Star Trek'?

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Monday, May 15, 2023 11:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


If the writers were any good at their jobs instead of focusing on ESG scores, AI would be a long way from taking their jobs from them.

Even the manatees that make Family Guy are going to lose their job to AI, and they're downright talented compared to Disney employees.



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Friday, May 26, 2023 9:40 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Creative Disruption: Striking screenwriters fearful ChatGPT could write next blockbuster script

https://www.milwaukeeindependent.com/newswire/creative-disruption-stri
king-screenwriters-fearful-chatgpt-write-next-blockbuster-script
/

Some places that the WGA has picketed include AMC Networks, Amazon/Culver Studios, MGM, CBS Radford, CBS Television City, Disney, 20th Century Studios, Lionsgate, Starz, Netflix, Paramount, MTV, Sony, Universal, Warner Bros. (including its Burbank division), 30 Rock/NBCUniversal, Broadway Stages, HBO, Silvercup Studios, Steiner Studios, Warner Bros. Discovery, and Warner Bros. Discovery Upfront

https://web.archive.org/web/20230430111715/https://www.hollywoodreport
er.com/business/digital/newfronts-preview-2023-amazon-roku-snap-1235403894
/

,

https://web.archive.org/web/20230502031455/https://deadline.com/featur
e/wga-strike-picket-locations-list-1235352229
/

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Friday, May 26, 2023 11:04 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Creative Disruption: Striking screenwriters fearful ChatGPT could write next blockbuster script



I wanted to check the article for the most relavent point before commenting and I was happy to see they at least put it in there:

Quote:

AI chatbots, screenwriters say, could potentially be used to spit out a rough first draft with a few simple prompts (“a heist movie set in Beijing”). Writers would then be hired, at a lower pay rate, to punch it up.

Screenplays could also be slyly generated in the style of known writers. What about a comedy in the voice of Nora Ephron? Or a gangster film that sounds like Mario Puzo? You won’t get anything close to “Casablanca” but the barest bones of a bad Liam Neeson thriller is not out of the question.

The WGA’s basic agreement defines a writer as a “person” and only a human’s work can be copyrighted. But even though no one’s about to see a “By AI” writers credit at the beginning a movie, there are myriad ways that regenerative AI could be used to craft outlines, fill in scenes and mock up drafts.



Yes, AI is currently incapable of writing anything that a great human writer could make at this point in time, but eventually I believe it will happen.

I don't blame them for being scared.

For most of the rest of the working world, this has already happened. Whether it be automation in factories and farm work displacing the workforce once needed to do things by hand, or the ever-increasingly impressive computer technology that has displaced even the need to send work overseas, you'd be hard-pressed to find any profession that hasn't been severely downsized because of technology. Hell... even freakin' LAWYERS are scared right now.

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“We’re not totally against AI,” says Michael Winship, president of the WGA East and a news and documentary writer. “There are ways it can be useful. But too many people are using it against us and using it to create mediocrity. They’re also in violation of copyright. They’re also plagiarizing.”


I'd tell the writers to just Get Gud and stop focusing on IDPol, but the simple fact of the matter is that most of the writers employed by Hollywood today are not good at their craft and will never be capable of getting good at it.

I mean, the nerve of this writer complaining that AI is culpable of copyright violations when nearly everything that comes out today is derivative of an older and greater work of art with its only "virtue" being some sort of gender/race/sexuality swap that allows them to blame the audience for being bigots when it fails.


And it's probably too late to put the shit back in the horse. Why go to the trouble and expense of finding and hiring actual talent after laying off all of these talent-less people who were only hired because they ticked boxes when they can just have AI write the meat of everything while paying some people with even less talent to flesh the first draft out?

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Thursday, July 13, 2023 8:01 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Hollywood studios, actors agree to mediation as strike deadline looms

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/hollywood-studios-actors-union-call-m
ediator-try-avoid-strike-2023-07-12
/

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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 1:57 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


The actors' union will strike alongside film and TV writers, and it could be a nightmare scenario for Hollywood

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/actors-poised-join-film-tv-221927886.html

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Tuesday, July 25, 2023 2:01 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Actors doubt strike will have ‘Hollywood Ending’


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Saturday, August 5, 2023 1:06 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Former Love is Blind cast members are suing Netflix, and founded the Unscripted Cast Advocacy Network.


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Thursday, September 28, 2023 9:38 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Zack Whedon seems to be more active than Joss, so is Joss done?

I dont know if Joss will work again. I have not seen Joss do anything since the SJW movement turned on him
Avengers Age of Ultron directing then he tried to save 'Justice League' but his reshoots are Uncredited

He then made films on Abortionists, SJW BLM Antifa stuff and Planned Parenthood

Ayn Rand and the Sub-Humans

Joss Mr. Whedon



The writers' strike is over; here's how AI negotiations shook out

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/writers-strike-over-heres-ai-022622261
.html


Writers On Daytime Soaps Return To Work After Strike

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/writers-daytime-soaps-return-strik
e-230949450.html


but No Actors?


Hollywood actors to resume negotiations with studios next week as writers strike ends
https://www.kasu.org/arts-culture/2023-09-28/hollywood-actors-to-resum
e-negotiations-with-studios-next-week-as-writers-strike-ends

With the Hollywood writers strike over, actors will now get a shot at cutting their own deal with studios and streaming services

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Friday, September 29, 2023 3:19 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


It's been like 1 day since they've come back and we've heard that Kevin Smith's He-Man is getting a 2nd season, they're going to reboot The Office and Disney is going to make a live action remake of Bambi.

Is it too late to go back on strike?

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Sunday, January 7, 2024 7:45 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


The Hollywood Strikes Stopped AI From Taking Your Job. But for How Long?
https://www.wired.com/story/hollywood-saved-your-job-from-ai-2023-will
-it-last
/

Hollywood execs warn AI steals jobs but can’t do job of true artists: ‘I want to work with human beings’
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/hollywood-execs-warn-ai-steals-070
019052.html

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