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Your Papers Please

POSTED BY: JASONZZZ
UPDATED: Thursday, February 19, 2004 16:07
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Thursday, February 19, 2004 4:07 PM

JASONZZZ


http://papersplease.org/

This case is being heard at the Supreme Court. The crux of the matter is whether refusing to produce "your papers" (albeit in a nice non-confrontational way) is enough Probable Cause for a policeman to rough you up and arrest you.

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Welcome to Humboldt County. Papers, Please.
No? You're Under Arrest.

On the evening of the 21st of May, 2000, Dudley Hiibel stepped out of his red 1988 GMC pick-up truck and lit a cigarette. The pick-up was parked on the side of Grass Valley Road, a rural stretch of asphalt that leads out of the mining town of Winnemucca into the rural cattle ranching area where Dudley lives and farms. ...



what Dudley Hiibel was doing that May evening in 2000: standing on the side of Grass Valley Road smoking a cigarette, his elbow resting on the rolled-down passenger window, talking with his daughter.



Then the police arrived.



Deputy Dove ... began to demand Dudley Hiibel show his ID. Eleven times Dove demanded Dudley show 'his papers'. Dudley asked a simple question: why?

"Because I'm investigating", said Dove.

"Investigating what?" Dudley asked.

"I'm investigating an investigation" was Dove's non-reply.

Eleven times Dove demanded Dudley's ID. And when the Deputy decided Dudley wasn't "going to cooperate", he cuffed, then tossed him in the back of his patrol car.

The video is almost too painful to watch at this point. A second trooper climbs on top of Mimi and he and Trooper Merschel brutally pin 17 year-old Mimi to the ground and slap on the cuffs.

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin




And not just in Nevada, but also in Ohio
http://www.underreported.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=art
icle&sid=697


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