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Originally posted by PhoenixRose: Each planet had their own system of government, which was consolidated under the Alliance after they won the war. The Independents wanted to hold on to their particular laws and customs. The Alliance could have the Core if they wanted it. The Alliance had a good system; they thought they were doing right. But any government that big is going to become sooooo corupt. And they did. Totalitarianism, when they really just wanted everyone to be treated fairly. Too bad it tends to work that way.

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose: Each planet had their own system of government, which was consolidated under the Alliance after they won the war. The Independents wanted to hold on to their particular laws and customs. The Alliance could have the Core if they wanted it. The Alliance had a good system; they thought they were doing right. But any government that big is going to become sooooo corupt. And they did. Totalitarianism, when they really just wanted everyone to be treated fairly. Too bad it tends to work that way.

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Originally posted by babywiththepower: One thing to add though, the only people that benefitted from the Unification (as evidenced by the suffering on many planets and the Alliance's tendancy to ignore them) was the Alliance. Now they get to tax all the planets and force them to adhere to their laws, but they don't do anything to help them. The Independants were fighting for planetary soverignity and individual freedoms, the latter of which is a comodity even in todays society.

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Originally posted by babywiththepower: One thing to add though, the only people that benefitted from the Unification (as evidenced by the suffering on many planets and the Alliance's tendancy to ignore them) was the Alliance. Now they get to tax all the planets and force them to adhere to their laws, but they don't do anything to help them. The Independants were fighting for planetary soverignity and individual freedoms, the latter of which is a comodity even in todays society.

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Exactly. The Independents were fighting for the right of self government and freedom from the neglect and unwanted rule of the Alliance. Planetary sovereignty was their right as they saw it, reinforced by the fact that the Alliance did nothing to aid them in their daily struggles as is evidenced in the series and commented on by several characters during the series.

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Originally posted by chronicthehedgehog: Is it really self government if it's planet wide? International bodies such as the UN have enough trouble coping with the variety of countries as it is, and they're not running the planet. If we moved to a planetary government, there'd be no end of internal conflict. I can understand the independents not wanting to expand that to a universal government, but surely the majority of them wouldn't be happy with planet-wide government either?

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Originally posted by nanite1018: Remember that we're talking about a system with dozes of planets and hundreds of moons. Now what is the definition of a planet? Apparently they have the ability to manipulate gravity so an asteroid like Ceres or 16 Psyche may count as a planet. If so, then these "planets" would only have an area of between 100 million and 5 billion square kilometers. That means many of the planet/moons would be only be about 12 times bigger than the US, assuming no oceans. So 6 times bigger than the US overall, at the high end. Possibly about half the US or less on the lower end. So that's comparitavely local, isn't it? Not too terribly bad in my opinion, considering most will only be about the size of Ceres and less, which makes them about 50% bigger than the US (assuming half is ocean). That isn't too awfully big at all. And most (judging from our star system that is) would be US sized and under.

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Originally posted by SpaceAnJL: Persephone for the Perps, Boros for the Bores, sorta thing.

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