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Lucas rips Whedon?

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Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:32 PM

STILLFREE


HOW ARE THERE STILL PEOPLE SAYING "YEAH I THINK THIS IS A FAKE?" YOU THINK? PROBABLY? PRETTY SURE?

"Supershadow is the smartest man I have ever had the honor of meeting. He will write, direct, and produce all of my future movies." -George Lucas

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Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:44 PM

OMELET


You really should know that there is no reason to be rude or yell. People are having a nice discussion in here. We don't need people yelling and being rude to others.

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Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Sunday, February 5, 2006 4:48 PM

ASARIAN


Hmm, I think this thread is rapidly moving towards a point where there are more people saying: "How could you folks all believe this?" than there were people who initially believed it.

Somethin' about that is just downright unsettlin'.


"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

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Sunday, February 5, 2006 8:43 PM

STILLFREE


I apologize if I seemed too rude. I meant the caps more as disbelieving emphasis rather than yelling, belligerent or otherwise. I suppose I sometimes get annoyed when it seems people post without reading even a few of the other replies, and I've been fighting off this damn Katrina cough for months. If I offended anyone, let me know and I will send you an electronic hug, or something else lame like that.

Me

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Sunday, February 5, 2006 9:56 PM

LITTLEALBATROSS


Don't worry about it too much StillFree - I was thinking the same thing when I got to your post.

Oh, and to whoever said it earlier: Hayden Christensen can act. He was pretty amazing in Shattered Glass.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 2:32 AM

THEPISTONENGINE


I honestly don't think that was George Lucas. I never read any of his interviews, but I doubt his PR department would let him respond to his fans they was he had in several of the statements.

"irst of all, I'd like to say this; I have read some of the comments and a few of them you basically call the person an idiot. Wouldn't it be smarter and time saving to just read the ones that are worth reading instead of ones that make you pity the idiot that has a small brain. And now to my actual question. Did you actually take the time to think about the way a light saber would work? A few of us spent half a year pondering this and taking different pieces of the light saber and such at a time and trying to put some logic into it, we got a few theories if you would like to read one, like to read on enough to actually take the time out of your busy day, then my email is ****@hotmail.com.

George Lucas: I have to respond to some of the hardcore losers who write in to me so that they know exactly how I feel about them. Some of these people are deluded enough to think their opinion actually matters. They post on message boards that are read by two or three people. This makes them think they are talking to the entire fan base, which is totally ridiculous. SuperShadow.com is the only place on the Net where you can make contact with hundreds of thousands of true fans. I bash these mentally challenged people to show them who’s boss. Their opinions will never matter just as their lives have no purpose. It makes me laugh really hard that somebody wastes so much time spouting off hatred about Star Wars.

You need to remember that I had about three years to come up with the light-saber idea while writing Star Wars from 1973 to 1975. I basically thought they were like regular swords except instead of having metal blades the blades would be of some kind of energy. I can’t tell you exactly how the light saber works because I’m not an engineer or physicist. I’m sure there are extraterrestrials that have working light sabers. There may be real light-saber battles happening all over the Universe."

EDIT: also, here he shows a fundamental misunderstanding of his own show. another thing pointing to it not being him.

"Anakin succumbed to the dark side for several reasons. First, Anakin was frustrated with the Jedi’s inability to accept his superiority over all other Jedi. Second, Obi-Wan circumvented Anakin’s progress towards greatness. Third, Anakin wanted a kind of unlimited power that the light side could not offer. These three factors allowed Sidious to trick Anakin into joining the dark side. If the Jedi had acknowledged Anakin as the best Jedi ever, had gotten Obi-Wan off Anakin’s back and allowed Anakin to do whatever he pleased, then the fall of the Jedi and Old Republic at the hands of the Sith probably wouldn’t have occurred.

Obi-Wan was on the defensive at Mustafar because he didn’t really believe he needed to kill Anakin. Obi-Wan loved Anakin like a brother. Obi-Wan was essentially the only father Anakin ever knew. Obi-Wan held on to the belief that Anakin could be turned back to the good. The only reason Obi-Wan defeated Anakin was because Anakin gave Obi-Wan no other choice. "

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Monday, February 6, 2006 4:34 AM

VOSHEXETER


Lucas vs. Whedon.........?

Celebrity Deathmatch anyone?









voshExeter

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Monday, February 6, 2006 4:54 AM

N0SKILLZ


Quote:

Originally posted by Snap:
Dear Mr. Lucas, I love all your movies. I was wondering if you have ever seen the movie Serenity written and directed by Joss Whedon? Many critics compare it to the Star Wars Prequels and how much better it is. "It is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since The Empire Strikes Back." I was wondering how you felt about the movie, did you like it?

George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

All of Whedon’s TV shows can be found in the bargain basement bin for DVD’s. Buffy - The Vampire Slayer, Firefly and Angel can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run. Anti-popular is the way I describe it. All and all, Serenity is just another piece of crap in the wall. That will surely drive you insane.



umm... asshole.



from what i can tell, most of the stuff on the site is really just fan site stuff, i doubt George Lucas ever even talked ot the people on the site.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 5:03 AM

GRIZWALD


Quote:

...Firefly... can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run.


Woo-hoo! I'm goin shoppin!

Oh wait... Satire, you say? Awwww. I really wanted to get Firefly for ten bucks and resell it on eBay!

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Monday, February 6, 2006 5:47 AM

STILLFREE


" I honestly don't think that was George Lucas. I never read any of his interviews, but I doubt his PR department would let him respond to his fans they was he had in several of the statements."

Ok, now they're just trying to piss us off.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 5:51 AM

GLOBLABSURDITY


Check this out--lol.

http://www.popcornpicnic.com/serenity.htm



*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

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Monday, February 6, 2006 6:51 AM

OMELET


Quote:

Originally posted by StillFree:
I apologize if I seemed too rude. I meant the caps more as disbelieving emphasis rather than yelling, belligerent or otherwise. I suppose I sometimes get annoyed when it seems people post without reading even a few of the other replies, and I've been fighting off this damn Katrina cough for months. If I offended anyone, let me know and I will send you an electronic hug, or something else lame like that.

Me



I'm sorry I took your post the wrong way.

It would be nice to have an electronic hug though.

I'm kidding. I'm really sorry though for presuming too much. Maybe I should think before I post next time.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Monday, February 6, 2006 6:54 AM

OMELET


Quote:

Originally posted by globlabsurdity:
Check this out--lol.

http://www.popcornpicnic.com/serenity.htm



*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)



That's hi-larious. It would be really cool if we could send that to Joss. I'm sure he would have a few laughs.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Monday, February 6, 2006 7:30 AM

STILLFREE


Omelet, there's no need to apologize. I have no problem with people trying to bring about more amicable discourse. You made me take a second look at my treatment of the less fortunate. Kidding, kidding.

Great sig by the way.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 8:12 AM

IMALEAF


I WILL NEVER CALL MAL HAN SOLO AGAIN, I never really said he was Han Solo but you get my point. Stupid Fuckhead Lucas. He is just pissed off because the Fanfic for Firefly has better lines than he can wirte.

~~River: Bible's broken. Contradictions, false logics. Doesn't make sense.~~

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Monday, February 6, 2006 9:46 AM

FERT1


Okay, I can't stand it any longer. Anyone who is still not sure if the interview is for real or not, read it, all of it. It's very obviously satire. I think the guy who wrote it is feeling very jaded toward GL, like so many here, and is making fun of his self-important attitude. GL is gracious, but at the same time, he has bought into his own legend just a little too much. The "interview" is a satire about just that. I think it is supposed to represent what GL would like to be able to say. It's actually pretty funny if you read in that light. It's kind of like "A Modest Proposal", which suggested that the way to get rid of the poverty stricken is to...eat them. Some people even took that little bit of satire seriously. It's almost like Orson Welles broadcast of "War of the Worlds". When you write satire, you almost have to include a little disclaimer - This is only a satire. Any similiarities to real events is...meant as a joke.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 9:55 AM

GLOBLABSURDITY


Quote:

Originally posted by Fert1:
Okay, I can't stand it any longer. Anyone who is still not sure if the interview is for real or not, read it, all of it. It's very obviously satire. I think the guy who wrote it is feeling very jaded toward GL, like so many here, and is making fun of his self-important attitude. GL is gracious, but at the same time, he has bought into his own legend just a little too much. The "interview" is a satire about just that. I think it is supposed to represent what GL would like to be able to say. It's actually pretty funny if you read in that light. It's kind of like "A Modest Proposal", which suggested that the way to get rid of the poverty stricken is to...eat them. Some people even took that little bit of satire seriously. It's almost like Orson Welles broadcast of "War of the Worlds". When you write satire, you almost have to include a little disclaimer - This is only a satire. Any similiarities to real events is...meant as a joke.




I will be making a supreme effort never to become poverty stricken--
Jayne may not want to "explode"--and I sure as 'ell don't wanna get eaten.
That is so very funny!

*Never judge a book by it's movie*
*The heart is an artist that paints over what profoundly disturbs it, leaving on the canvas a less dark,less sharp version of the truth*--D.Koontz (Forever Odd)

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Monday, February 6, 2006 10:17 AM

FERT1


Quote:

Jayne may not want to "explode"--and I sure as 'ell don't wanna get eaten.


Then stay away from Reavers! LOL!

Jonathan Swift wrote that little essay in 1729. Anyone not familiar with it, can read it online at http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html .

I remember having to read that in English class. Even then some of the students thought it was supposed to be taken seriously, and told the teacher how much they disliked it.

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Monday, February 6, 2006 10:39 AM

OMELET


Quote:

Originally posted by StillFree:
Omelet, there's no need to apologize. I have no problem with people trying to bring about more amicable discourse. You made me take a second look at my treatment of the less fortunate. Kidding, kidding.



Hahaha.

Quote:

Great sig by the way.


Thank you.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Jayne: Are you saying River's a witch?
Wash: Yes, Jayne, she's a witch. She's had congress with the Beast.
Jayne: She's in Congress?
Wash: How did your brain even learn human speech? I'm just so curious!

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Monday, February 6, 2006 11:04 AM

SPOOKYJESUS


Fuck.

In fairness to George I thought it was a loaded question - "Your films suck compared to Serenity - comment?"

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Monday, February 6, 2006 12:19 PM

ASARIAN


Dear Mr. Lucas,

$10? I fear you are mistaken. FireFly is a lot 'cheaper' than that: it's price-less.

Please get back to us when Star Wars reaches that level.

Sincerely,

(Now, a quick word for those in this thread who think they're more fortunate than the less fortunate: this is not anger; this is irony.)


--
"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 6:33 AM

ZOOMLORD


Greetings, I am a Starwars fan and I come in peace. I am known as one of the main enemies of Supershadow, to him I am known as Zoomlord and Darth Zoom, I belong to an anti-Shadow group known as Shadowscourge.
As some of you may know now Supershadow is a person known as Mickey Suttle. He is a cabinet maker from North Carolina, he is not and never will be an employee of Lucafilm.
His site is not "a joke", he is a crazed fan who has decieved thousands since 1999 and believes in his own head that many of his claims are true.
He even posts pictures he steals from porn sites and the likes of and claims they are his girlfriends.
Do not believe any of his claims or so called quotes from George Lucas.
For more "entertainment" from Supershadow go to Myspace.com/super_shadow. Thank you for your time, I thought Serenity was a great movie and I hope the franchise continues to grow- Zoomlord.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 10:26 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Quote:

Dear Mr. Lucas, I love all your movies. I was wondering if you have ever seen the movie Serenity written and directed by Joss Whedon? Many critics compare it to the Star Wars Prequels and how much better it is. "It is the best sci-fi movie I've seen since The Empire Strikes Back." I was wondering how you felt about the movie, did you like it?

George Lucas: The best way to judge how could science fiction films are is to examine their box-office earnings. Serenity took in a weak $ 25 million dollars in North America. Revenge of the Sith crushed this figure with earnings toppling over $ 380 million dollars. Hence, Star Wars is fifteen times more popular that the hack work produced by Whedon.

All of Whedon’s TV shows can be found in the bargain basement bin for DVD’s. Buffy - The Vampire Slayer, Firefly and Angel can be bought for $ 10 bucks for the entire season run. Anti-popular is the way I describe it. All and all, Serenity is just another piece of crap in the wall. That will surely drive you insane.



Very funny.

Hans Solo, er, Harrison Ford was on Jay Leno last night. He said he's now a jet pilot, like that black Clingon on Star Trek. That's cool that the pilot of Mellenium Falcon can actual fly in real life. But he looked REALLY old.

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 12:19 PM

ALECIRVING


In case you are not already familiar with the site Supershadow is a fraud which has been sued by LucasFilm multiple times and also has often claimed to have Episode VII-IX scripts.

For more information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supershadow

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 12:27 PM

AVERARDUS


I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!

I also sense a bit of jealousy, lucas knows most people did not like the last three films he made (SW 4-6), they only made money because of the name Star Wars..lol..

Firefly/Serenity IS the best sci-fi story since the first and second Star Wars films, hands down!

Hey Lucas, I wont be buying a damn thing from you


Aver~

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 6:18 PM

STILLFREE


I really hate George Lucas. I'm highly offended by the fact that he makes fun of people with mental disabilities, such as autism. I also find it insulting that he says stuff life "Thank you losers for buying all of my worthless stuff so that I can keep all my hot girlfriends." I do find it strange that he only says stuff like that on his best friends Supershadow's website, or that it hasn't become common knowledge after all these years. You would think the tabloids would report these things! Especially that he didn't even write his own movies (Supershadow did ALL the work).

God bless America

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Wednesday, February 8, 2006 6:25 PM

JDUBASHI


This man is an ASSHOLE. Does he not know that Serenity was a million times better than any of the prequels! Just because Revenge of the Sith made more money doesn't mean it was a better film.

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 8:08 AM

ALECIRVING


Really guys, is it so hard to work out? You guys are too gullible. Apparently you didn't read the wikipedia article or listen to what I said about Supershadow.

He is a fake. He first popped in 1999 shortly before the release of Episode I and posted what he said was the Episode I script. Hundreds believed him and rushed to it. When Phantom Menace came out his script turned out to be merely a combination of lines from the trailer and some stuff he made up. The same thing happened with Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.

He is a universally despised figure amongst the Star Wars community and those few fans who believe him send him email wanting to talk with George Lucas. Of course he responds, claiming to be George Lucas. This explains many of the discrepencies between what he says and what Lucas says.

Example:

Supershadow claims the EU (books, games, comics, and such) are not canon whereas Lucas has actually stated they are. He also claims he was in ROTS and even listed his cameo. When Star Wars fans checked the cameo they discovered it was not listed by his name (Mikey Suttle) or under the alias Supershadowe claimed it would be (Shadow). Instead it was listed as a completely different actor and a different character name than what Supershadow claimed.

Face it, you've been had. While Lucas sure as hell isn't an angel he's not the asshole this fraud makes him out to be. Supershadow is the villain here.

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 9:30 AM

STILLFREE


Quote:

Originally posted by AlecIrving:
Face it, you've been had. While Lucas sure as hell isn't an angel he's not the asshole this fraud makes him out to be. Supershadow is the villain here.


I wouldn't call him a villain. He's a great satirist and if he can get people to believe his ludicrously obvious jokes, all the better. I would say the villain is human nature...bum bum BUMMMM

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me dozens of times, just shoot me.

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Thursday, February 9, 2006 11:16 AM

ALECIRVING


Villain is a harsh term, but I was a bit upset about the whole thing being that I both love Firefly and Star Wars. But I'm not sure satirist is a good word either. He isn't trying to send a message, he's deliberately misleading people for the fun of it, nothing less. Lucasfilm actually tried to take him offline at one point but failed due to free speech laws.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:36 AM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Okay, those people who are still believing this is real, WAKE UP AND SEE THE WHOLE PICTURE. Just reading the so called interview's supposedly by GL should prove what a fake this is. I mean read it. The answers sound like a 5 year old boy typed it up. I've seen plenty of interviews by Lucas and at every one he was gracious, well spoken, and actually kind to his fans. Now I agree that somewhere he substituted style over substance in the latest pics, but by no means would he diss and s*#t on someone elses movie. Lord, if that was the case then it would have been far more advertised than it has been. Nothing he does goes unoticed. Just READ the comments made supposedly by him. They were so obviously written by this Supernut. The man either has delutions of grandeur, is a rabid (check stalking) fan of GL's, or has stopped taking his special pills. I'll go with all of the above.

Seriously people, give GL some credit. Do you think he'd put himself in the position to slit his own throat? You know when I'll believe this comment is real? When I hear Joss tell us that it is. And since I've not heard him complain or ask for support from his fanbase, I'm going with the majority (and my own common sense) and say this Supernut needs to be removed for Firefly and Star Wars fans sakes. The man is making both fanclubs look bad. *Sheesh*

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 1:53 AM

ANASAZI


Quote:

Originally posted by Averardus:
I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!





That's a great take on a fake article. Bravo to you!!

There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both? Well Thought out comparison of the two universe is healthy, while name calling and profanity is just downright wrong.

From Joss' mouth, I've only heard him speak great things of Lucas and the Star Wars Universe. Why, he even tends to pepper some of his dialoque with Star Wars references (i.e. like the Episode I line Xander butchers in 4X01 of Buffy.)

To me, Joss has always tried to compare this little show to the Star Trek universe, only I never really see that debate on the boards alot.


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"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:01 AM

MISSTRESSAHARA


Quote:

Originally posted by Anasazi:
Quote:

Originally posted by Averardus:
I have heard many rumors about Lucas being a real asshole, now I believe it!





That's a great take on a fake article. Bravo to you!!

There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both? Well Thought out comparison of the two universe is healthy, while name calling and profanity is just downright wrong.

From Joss' mouth, I've only heard him speak great things of Lucas and the Star Wars Universe. Why, he even tends to pepper some of his dialoque with Star Wars references (i.e. like the Episode I line Xander butchers in 4X01 of Buffy.)

To me, Joss has always tried to compare this little show to the Star Trek universe, only I never really see that debate on the boards alot.


________________________________________________________
"You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought....."



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Hear Hear Anasazi

If I'm a bitch, then life just got interesting.

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Friday, February 10, 2006 3:13 AM

CASSIUS


Quote:

There's way to many people here trying to denegrate Star Wars because of their love for Firefly. Why can't you like both?

Yay!!!!
I love both (well, I love episodes III, IV, and V).

I haven't read the whole of this thread because it's very long, but in this months DVD Monthly/DVD Review, (the one with River on the front), Whedon says how much Lucas said he loved Firefly/Serenity.


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CSTS events in Miami Springs and Fort Worth 8-23 8-24-2014 Serenity, Dr. Horrible, Can't Stop the Music and Firefly themed Wheel of Fortune Game.
Sat, August 23, 2014 00:54 - 1 posts
Firefly / My Little Pony Art
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