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"A psychopath": Psychologists call Trump the "most psychiatrically disordered president in history"

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Friday, September 25, 2020 8:14 PM

REAVERFAN


https://www.salon.com/2020/09/25/a-psychopath-psychologists-call-trump
-the-most-psychiatrically-disordered-president-in-history_partner
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"It is time to stop relying on political pundits to weigh in on Trump's behavior, which they often soften and even normalize," Blotcky and Norrholm write. "We are psychologists, and we are convinced Donald Trump is a psychopath. His malignant behavior over the past four years is growing and escalating right before our eyes. Trump's psychopathy will change us forever if he is not stopped."

The psychologists offer a long list of reasons why they believe that Trump "may well destroy our 244-year-old democracy" if he isn't voted out of office in November and why they believe his "mental health" is in such a terrible state. Trump, they write, not only "breaks norms, rules and laws with impunity" and "peddles fake conspiracy theories and irrational magical thinking" — he also "blames, scapegoats and gaslights as easily as he breathes" and "undermines the vital role of the free press, because he abhors oversight and accountability."

In addition to those things, the psychologists write in their op-ed, Trump "has no conscience" and "denigrates and humiliates anyone and everyone in his path."
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People who aren't Russian trolls and have IQs over 90 see it clearly.

The rest of you, not so much.

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Friday, September 25, 2020 8:35 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol Salon.

Fuck you, Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Friday, September 25, 2020 8:47 PM

SIGNYM

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what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs




'Cause it was such a paradise before we got there

Yanno, it has to be disappointing blah blah blahing about brown people all the time and no one gives a shit.

Most of the Middle East could be nuked off the planet and people here wouldn't stop what they are doing to watch the news about it.

Maybe you should find a new cause??





https://refusefascism.org/

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:00 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Sigh.

The point, WISHI, is that ...

*** ***WE DID THAT.*** ***


Or, more to the point, your hero did that. So, tell me why you don't care.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:19 AM

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 4:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SIGNYM:
and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs
TWITCHY: 'Cause it was such a paradise before we got there

ACTUALLY, IT WAS.

You may not know this ... well, there's a LOT you don't know! ... but the standard of living in Libya was higher than in any other African nation, and higher than many eastern European nations, because Qaddafi spent the nation's oil wealth on Libya.

The average calories per person per day was over 3000. The literacy rate ... yes, among women too ... was near 100%. Public school was compulsory, and free. Houses were granted to newly-married couples.

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After coming to power, the RCC government initiated a process of directing funds toward providing education, health care and housing for all. Public education in the country became free and primary education compulsory for both sexes. Medical care became available to the public at no cost, but providing housing for all was a task the RCC government was not able to complete.


As far as women's rights are concerned, women fared far better in Libya than in Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other Middle Eastern nations, and better than in India ...nations with abysmal records on human rights and women's rights, with astonishing wealth gaps and yet which we consider "friends".

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Yet during the four decades of his rule, in contrast to many Arab and African countries, women made progress in Libya. Under King Idris, whom Gaddafi overthrew in 1969, less than a quarter of girls went to primary school, but he increased compulsory education from six to nine years, which boosted female literacy from one of the lowest to one of the highest in the region. By the time he was ousted there were more women than men at university. He encouraged women to take up jobs such as teaching, nursing and administrative work but they also became pharmacists, doctors, dentists and sometimes engineers. Traditionally, a Libyan woman joined a man’s family on marriage after the payment of a bride price, and was then largely restricted to the home, but through the 1970s and 80s the old ways started to break down. By the end of Gadaffi’s rule, there were more women in the workforce in Libya than in most Arab countries.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/5050/is-that-what-we-fought-for-gadda
fis-legacy-for-libyan-women
/

Once Libya was overtaken, mostly by jihadis, captured women were taken as property and traded and sold as slaves, and libya remains one of the highest sources of refugees into Europe, because the Libyan "victors" capture people and shake them down for escape money before shoving them into little leaky boats where they can drown in the Mediterranean.

Yep, Obama and Hillary did that.

You say you're all about women's rights, but all you seem to do is empty virtue-signalling.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:14 AM

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ENSLAVED AND RAPED IN LIBYA: How this woman escaped from IS captivity

Since the group emerged in Libya in late 2014, some 240,000 migrants and refugees have traversed the war-torn country. The fighters then enslaved, raped, sold or exchanged at least 63 captive women, nine of whom described their ordeal in detail to Reuters.

On the night of June 2, 2015, gunmen blocked a highway on Libya’s northern coast and stopped a white truck speeding toward Tripoli, the capital. The men trained their assault rifles on the driver. Three climbed aboard to search the cargo.

Ruta Fisehaye, a 24-year-old Eritrean, was lying on the bed of the truck’s first trailer. Beside her lay 85 Eritrean men and women, one of whom was pregnant. A few dozen Egyptians hid in the second trailer. All shared one dream — to reach Europe.

The gunmen ordered the migrants off the truck. They separated Muslims from Christians and, then, men from women. They asked those who claimed to be Muslims to recite the Shahada, a pledge to worship only Allah. All of the Egyptians shouted the words in unison.

“There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.”

“Allahu Akbar,” the gunmen called back.

Fisehaye realised then that she was in the hands of Islamic State of Iraq and Syria...

... It only took a week for Fisehaye and the other women to attempt another breakout. Nine escaped, but not Fisehaye. Instead, she was brought back to the makeshift prison and whipped for days. The Korean doctor tended to her wounds.

... The ranks of Islamic State fighters swelled. At its peak, the group may have had 6,000 fighters in Libya, based on the US Army’s estimates, although the Pentagon drastically cut that estimate this month to a thousand fighters in Sirte.

The single men, most of whom flocked from other parts of Africa, needed companions, and Islamic State enlisted older women in Sirte to help. The women, called ‘crows’ because they dressed in black, visited townspeople’s homes and registered single girls older than 15 as potential brides, says Brigadier Gnaidy of the Misrata forces.

As the group’s ambitions grew that summer, so did its need for women. Islamic State’s take on sharia permits men to take sex slaves.

... “You are now sabaya,” Hafeezo told Kidane, using the archaic term for slave. There were four possible outcomes for her and the other women, he explained. Their respective owners could make them their sex slaves, give them away as gifts, sell them to other militias, or set them free.

“Do not worry about what will happen to you in the hands of men,” Kidane says Hafeezo told her. “Concern yourself only with where you stand with Allah.”

Kidane did not share this detail with Fisehaye or the other women, hoping to save them from despair.

Later, one of Hafeezo’s superiors came to the compound to take a census. He wrote the women’s names and ages on a ledger. He asked them to lift their veils and examined their faces. He returned a week later and took two of the youngest women, aged 15 and 18, with him. On December 17, he sent for Kidane. That day, he gave her to a Libyan member of an Islamic State brigade in Sirte. Despite her repeated pleas, her new owner refused to reunite her with Fisehaye.

In late January, a stomach ulcer confined Fisehaye to her bed. Stress made matters worse. Returning from a hospital visit one afternoon, she witnessed a child, no older than 9, shoot a man in the town square.

Soon after, she and the remaining female captives moved to a warehouse in Sirte where Islamic State stored appliances, fuel and slaves. A group of 15 Eritrean women, who had been kidnapped in July, and three Ethiopian women kidnapped in January joined them that week.

The warehouse became, to the women, a last frontier of defiance. As new Muslims, they argued for better healthcare and the abolition of their slavery. They absorbed beatings in response.

Resistance proved futile. An Eritrean fighter called Mohamed, who had often dropped by to survey the women, purchased Fisehaye in February. He never said how much he paid for her. But he seemed gentle at first, asking after her waning health and her past life in Eritrea.

“I was confused. I thought he was going to help me. Maybe he had infiltrated Daesh. Maybe he wasn’t really one of them. I started harbouring hope,” Fisehaye said.

Instead, he raped her, repeatedly, for weeks.

“No one ever showed us which part of the Koran says they could turn us into slaves,” Fisehaye said. “They wanted to destroy us…so much evil in their hearts.”

She plotted her escape but could not find a way out.

Then her owner lent her to another man, a Senegalese fighter. Known by the nom de guerre Abu Hamza, the Senegalese had brought his wife and three children to the Libyan frontline. Fisehaye was to work, unpaid, in Abu Hamza’s kitchen.

The work was busy but bearable, until one night in mid-February when Abu Hamza brought an Eritrean woman from the warehouse. He raped the woman all night.

“She was screaming. Screaming. It tore my heart,” Fisehaye recalled. “His wife stood by the door and cried.”

The next morning, Fisehaye convinced the battered woman to run away with her. They left the city behind and ran into the desert. No one stopped to help them and they were caught by religious police on patrol outside the city.

The police returned both women to captivity. The battered Eritrean woman went back to Abu Hamza. Mohamed took Fisehaye to a three-story building in Sirte that he shared with two other fighters.

Fisehaye moved in with a 22-year-old Eritrean woman and her 4-year-old son, both of whom belonged to a Tunisian commander named Saleh. Another 23-year-old Eritrean lived down the hall with her 2-year-old son and a daughter to whom she gave birth while in Islamic State custody. That woman and her children belonged to a Nigerian fighter who called himself al-Baghdadi.

Fisehaye’s roommates said the men raped them on multiple occasions. They told their stories on condition of anonymity.

“There was no one there to help me. So I kept quiet and took the abuse,” the Eritrean mother of two later said. “I stopped resisting. He did as he pleased with me.”



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Saturday, September 26, 2020 5:45 AM

REAVERFAN


Grandpa Trump made the family fortune with brothels. Daddy Trump made even more money being a slumlord. Little Donny Trump inherited 400 million dollars, and lost it all. And lost it all. AND LOST IT ALL. Then Putin loaned him millions. Now Donny works for Putin and is a traitor.



Psychopathy runs in the family.





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Saturday, September 26, 2020 10:26 AM

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^ More fan fic jerkoff porn for America hating Marcos.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:21 PM

REAVERFAN


Trump perceived as abnormally sadistic and narcissistic by both conservatives and liberals, study finds
https://www.psypost.org/2020/04/trump-perceived-as-abnormally-sadistic
-and-narcissistic-by-both-conservatives-and-liberals-study-finds-56646


Because he is.

A mentally ill incompetent.



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Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:22 PM

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:24 PM

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Joining up the dots shows the true depths of Trump’s dangerous narcissistic pathology
https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/22/joining-up-the-dots-shows-the-true
-depths-of-trump-s-dangerous-narcissistic-pathology-view


There has only been one headline worth printing since Donald Trump was elected president. That headline is "Donald Trump suffers from a dangerous incurable narcissistic disorder which makes him incapable of empathy and reason. He is a grave danger to the US and the world."

Instead of stating this disturbing fact, the evidence for which is voluminous, the mainstream media have over the last three years led America down the rabbit holes of normalising him and trying to understand him as you would a psychologically healthy human being. But Donald Trump is not a psychologically healthy human being and reporting on him as if he were, empowers him and disempowers people of reason. Acknowledging his pathology is fundamental to reversing this imbalance.

Although the mainstream media have largely refused to name Trump’s disordered mind, a cohort of mental health professionals have been consistently sounding the alarm. During the 2016 presidential election campaign, three psychiatrists wrote to then-President Barack Obama warning that Trump’s widely-reported symptoms of mental instability led them to question his fitness for office. Since Trump was sworn in as president, Yale psychiatrist Bandy Lee has been leading a group of mental health professionals in a concerted campaign to raise awareness of the dangers posed by Trump’s pathological mental state.



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Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:52 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

A narccistic psychopath.
Quote:


What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

A narccistic psychopathic witch.
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Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:13 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
Grandpa Trump made the family fortune with brothels. Daddy Trump made even more money being a slumlord. Little Donny Trump inherited 400 million dollars, and lost it all. And lost it all. AND LOST IT ALL. Then Putin loaned him millions. Now Donny works for Putin and is a traitor.



Psychopathy runs in the family.





Oh, so now you're attacking someone because of their family. More empty virtue signalling from our local anus-spewer.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 1:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

A narccistic psychopath.
Quote:


What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

A narccistic psychopathic witch.
Quote:


Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


As a reminder, the entire Republican Party was pleased with the fall of Libya. Start with Trump:

In February 2011, as the Arab Spring was in full swing, Trump advocated an aerial campaign to decapitate the regime of his erstwhile friend. However, unwilling to help the Libyans remove their dictator altruistically, he offered a mercenary bombs-for-oil scheme. Now in 2016, as he has staked out an anti-intervention, America-first stance on international affairs, he has attempted to backtrack from his previous statements so that he can attack Hillary Clinton as responsible for the mess in Libya, and tied to the failed doctrine of humanitarian intervention. (If you read the article, Trump was always crazy, greedy, stupid, and contradictory about Libya.)
www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/8/9/donald-trumps-gaddafi-problem/

Then there is the rest of the GOP:
Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were equally gratified and positive. “The end of the Gadhafi regime is a victory for the Libyan people and the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world,” they concluded. The two senators, along with their Republican colleagues, Mark Kirk and Marco Rubio, gushed during a visit to “liberated” Tripoli that the rebels had “inspired the world.”
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-failed-state-its-
americas-fault-23325


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:24 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

JSF: A narccistic psychopath.

SIGNY: What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

JSF: A narccistic psychopathic witch.

SIGNY: Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


SECONDRATE: As a reminder, the entire Republican Party was pleased with the fall of Libya. Start with Trump:

In February 2011, as the Arab Spring was in full swing, Trump advocated an aerial campaign to decapitate the regime of his erstwhile friend. However, unwilling to help the Libyans remove their dictator altruistically, he offered a mercenary bombs-for-oil scheme. Now in 2016, as he has staked out an anti-intervention, America-first stance on international affairs, he has attempted to backtrack from his previous statements so that he can attack Hillary Clinton as responsible for the mess in Libya, and tied to the failed doctrine of humanitarian intervention. (If you read the article, Trump was always crazy, greedy, stupid, and contradictory about Libya.)
www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/8/9/donald-trumps-gaddafi-problem/

I don't care what a person SAYS as much as what they DO. [Which BTW is one of the reasons you don't find me haring and hounding after Trump's tweets, NOR do you find me believing Obama's lies.] Trump's record speaks for itself: He has not started any new wars. He's not a saint, because the CIA and State Dept are STILL constantly meddling in other nations' internal affairs (Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Belarus etc etc) but t least troops haven't been committed.

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Then there is the rest of the GOP:
Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were equally gratified and positive. “The end of the Gadhafi regime is a victory for the Libyan people and the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world,” they concluded. The two senators, along with their Republican colleagues, Mark Kirk and Marco Rubio, gushed during a visit to “liberated” Tripoli that the rebels had “inspired the world.”
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-failed-state-its-
americas-fault-23325

I lump the establishment warhawk Republicans along with the establishment neocon/"humanistic interventionist" Democrats ... they ALL belong in the trash.

Not overlooking the faults of the Bush/Graham/Rubio/McCain (a moment of silence forMcCain's tumor) and not overlooking the faults of Obama/Clinton/Biden/Feinstein gang either.

TRUMP IS NOT LIKE EITHER OF THEM. WHICH IS WHY THE DEEP STATE HAS WORKED SO HARD TO LEVER HIM OUT.

Would that YOU would be half as reality-oriented!

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:55 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

"A psychopath": Psychologists call Trump the "most psychiatrically disordered president in history"
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"He must be stopped before it is too late,” psychologists Alan D. Blotcky and Seth D. Norrholm warn Americans


It takes a minimum number of 2 to use the plural term "psychologists". So ... you mean like ... all 2 (listed above) of the vast number of psychologists say that? I'm equally sure you could find 2 psychologists who'll say that Trump is a "very stable genius".



Let's discuss Trump's actions instead of voodoo.


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 6:38 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

SIGNYM:
what do you call a President who toppled three nations- creating three failed states, attempted to topple several more, kept a "kill list" ("I'm rather good at that") and spied on any citizen without restraint?

JSF: A narccistic psychopath.

SIGNY: What do you call a Secretary of State who said "We came, we saw, he died! *giggle*" after Gaddafi was sodomized with a knife by jihadis, and Libya was turned into a hellhole by jihadis and mercs, with slave auctions and everything?

JSF: A narccistic psychopathic witch.

SIGNY: Personally, I find THAT more disordered than anything Trump has done.


SECONDRATE: As a reminder, the entire Republican Party was pleased with the fall of Libya. Start with Trump:

In February 2011, as the Arab Spring was in full swing, Trump advocated an aerial campaign to decapitate the regime of his erstwhile friend. However, unwilling to help the Libyans remove their dictator altruistically, he offered a mercenary bombs-for-oil scheme. Now in 2016, as he has staked out an anti-intervention, America-first stance on international affairs, he has attempted to backtrack from his previous statements so that he can attack Hillary Clinton as responsible for the mess in Libya, and tied to the failed doctrine of humanitarian intervention. (If you read the article, Trump was always crazy, greedy, stupid, and contradictory about Libya.)
www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2016/8/9/donald-trumps-gaddafi-problem/

I don't care what a person SAYS as much as what they DO. [Which BTW is one of the reasons you don't find me haring and hounding after Trump's tweets, NOR do you find me believing Obama's lies.] Trump's record speaks for itself: He has not started any new wars. He's not a saint, because the CIA and State Dept are STILL constantly meddling in other nations' internal affairs (Venezuela, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Belarus etc etc) but t least troops haven't been committed.

Quote:

Then there is the rest of the GOP:
Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham were equally gratified and positive. “The end of the Gadhafi regime is a victory for the Libyan people and the broader cause of freedom in the Middle East and throughout the world,” they concluded. The two senators, along with their Republican colleagues, Mark Kirk and Marco Rubio, gushed during a visit to “liberated” Tripoli that the rebels had “inspired the world.”
https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-skeptics/libya-failed-state-its-
americas-fault-23325

I lump the establishment warhawk Republicans along with the establishment neocon/"humanistic interventionist" Democrats ... they ALL belong in the trash.

Not overlooking the faults of the Bush/Graham/Rubio/McCain (a moment of silence forMcCain's tumor) and not overlooking the faults of Obama/Clinton/Biden/Feinstein gang either.

TRUMP IS NOT LIKE EITHER OF THEM. WHICH IS WHY THE DEEP STATE HAS WORKED SO HARD TO LEVER HIM OUT.

Would that YOU would be half as reality-oriented!

Yours is the most silly argument you have ever made, Signym. Trump talks all the time, spilling his guts, ranting like a lunatic, saying nothing meaningful about the world, but he is broadcasting his mental state which is that he is fucking nuts. Unsurprisingly, nothing happens when Trump gives his disorganized orders because nobody obeys him. Instead, they do what they want, the standard GOP policies. Trump hasn't noticed that what they do has no connection to what he says he wants. He gets what they want. He has a staff that keeps the old fool in the dark. The staff makes things happen. Why give credit to the great big incompetent fool for not starting a war? The Pentagon won't obey him unless he has a declaration of war from Congress. Essentially, there is no President, but there is a loudmouth fool who has been campaigning 5 years for a job he doesn't do.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 6:45 PM

SIGNYM

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Speaking of stability ... if REAVERBOT and SECONDRATE and TWITCHY had to put up with HALF of the shit that Trump had had to put up with .... like, politically-motivated prosecutions of family and friends, and a constant campaign of libel in the press ... they would have gone postal a long time ago. Considering that Trump has had to weather a constant coup attempt based on lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults, I think he's reacted pretty damn well.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 7:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Speaking of stability ... if REAVERBOT and SECONDRATE and TWITCHY had to put up with HALF of the shit that Trump had had to put up with .... like, politically-motivated prosecutions of family and friends, and a constant campaign of libel in the press ... they would have gone postal a long time ago. Considering that Trump has had to weather a constant coup attempt based on lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults, I think he's reacted pretty damn well.

Remember Trump's tax returns? All he had to do is call his accountant, but he won't. Instead, he takes the case to the Supreme Court. Trump is an idiot since he paid all taxes. Or did he? But Trump's tax returns keep making front page news because he won't call the accountant. That is pure crazy he won't pick up the phone.

Remember Trump's Wall? There is 5 miles more Wall along the border then there was in 2016. He said he wanted to remove the 24 million illegal aliens permanently living in the USA and the Wall was Step One of the process. Too bad Trump never got to Step Two. There are still 24 million illegal aliens permanently living in the USA. Why no Step Two? The Republican Party wants those permanent illegal aliens as a very cheap workforce.
www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/09/06/fact-check-donald-tru
mp-built-more-border-wall-than-meme-claims/3437653001
/

Remember Trump was bringing factory jobs back from China? It didn't happen. Why not? The Republican Party wants a very cheap workforce, in this case a foreign workforce rather than a domestic workforce of illegal aliens. The factory jobs moved from China to Vietnam. The factory jobs didn't come back to the USA.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/26/china-jobs-coronavirus-pandemic-m
anufacturing-trump
/

Remember Trump's new and better healthcare plan? It didn't happen. Why not? The GOP likes high cost healthcare. It's about the money. Did Trump draft a plan? Maybe he gave the order, but his staff are all Republicans and they ignored it. Maybe he is too crazy to know his orders are ignored?
www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/072116/us-healthcare-co
sts-compared-other-countries.asp


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Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:08 PM

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The IRS has Trump's tax returns.

Get over it, bitch.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
The IRS has Trump's tax returns.

Get over it, bitch.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

And the IRS auditor works for Trump. And yet Trump says he can't share his returns because of the auditor, but before Trump was elected he said he would share, just not Now. Well, Now arrived and crazy Trump won't call his accountant to distribute his tax returns and Trump won't make it clear that he is NOT a tax thief. Either Trump is crazy or a thief. Could be both.

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Saturday, September 26, 2020 9:24 PM

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Good luck getting anywhere with that.

Had to listen to you whine about it for 4 years now. Do you wish you could have any of that wasted time back?



BTW...

3 nights until Trump destroys Biden on national TV.



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Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:01 AM

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Quote:

SIGNYM:
Speaking of stability ... if REAVERBOT and SECONDRATE and TWITCHY had to put up with HALF of the shit that Trump had had to put up with .... like, politically-motivated prosecutions of family and friends, and a constant campaign of libel in the press ... they would have gone postal a long time ago. Considering that Trump has had to weather a constant coup attempt based on lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults, I think he's reacted pretty damn well.

SECONDRATE: Remember Trump's tax returns? All he had to do is call his accountant, but he won't. Instead, he takes the case to the Supreme Court. Trump is an idiot since he paid all taxes. Or did he? But Trump's tax returns keep making front page news because he won't call the accountant. That is pure crazy he won't pick up the phone.

More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:36 AM

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It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 3:48 AM

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It's like his tweets. Haven't the TDSers figured out that he's just trolling them?

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800


I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 9:40 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800


I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

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More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 9:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.



I'm still paying property taxes for other people's kids NOT to go to school. Because lockdown.

I won't mention what they turned the local grade school into, since that would probably aide in any doxxing attempts, but let's just say that the local grade school is no longer even a grade school.



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
It's occurred to me that Trump might be making a big deal about things like his taxes which are in truth NOT A PROBLEM simply to keep democrats chasing after non-issues, waste their time, and make them look stupid in the end.

OH silly me, what am I saying? The democrats don't need any help either chasing after irrelevancies, wasting time, or looking stupid.

Did you know that tax collection is down? It is not simply the pandemic because it started at the beginning of Trump's term, not this year. The rich are following Trump's example of not paying all their taxes. They know, even without having seen his 10 years of returns before 2016 or his 3 years since then, that Trump is cheating and he is getting away with it because IRS auditing of the rich is a joke.

Tax collection is Trump's responsibility. If Trump was not crazy, he would not be sending out these LOUD signals to all wealthy taxpayers that they can follow his criminal example and also not pay. Who is paying?

Republican vice presidential candidate Mike Pence, in a break with Donald Trump, released a decade's worth of tax returns Friday.
www.politico.com/story/2016/09/mike-pence-tax-returns-227980

Upper echelon cheating is spreading to mid echelon taxpayers. Trump's example of cheating spread to his mild-mannered V.P.: Vice President Mike Pence has filed three tax returns since taking office, but he hasn't publicly released any of them.
www.wsj.com/articles/pences-tax-returns-like-trumps-stay-out-of-sight-
11556011800


I realize that paying taxes is not important to 1kiki and Signym since trolls don't pay for the vast programs they want passed by Congress. 6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.

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More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

Signym, what the hell is wrong with you? The Federal government is running a multi-trillion dollar deficit per year because taxes are NOT being collected. Why not collect? Because the calculation of what each taxpayer owes is done by the taxpayer, not by the Federal government. The system is based on voluntary compliance with the law. Trump is setting the crazy example, especially because he is in charge of the IRS tax collection, of NOT PAYING HIS TAXES! He tops that by defiantly and very publicly not obeying court orders about paying his taxes.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
6ix doesn't have any income, so he doesn't care that other people aren't paying taxes while Trump, his crazy hero, is President.



I'm still paying property taxes for other people's kids NOT to go to school. Because lockdown.

I won't mention what they turned the local grade school into, since that would probably aide in any doxxing attempts, but let's just say that the local grade school is no longer even a grade school.

Trump has nothing to do with the collecting of real estate taxes in Indiana. He has everything to do with collection of Federal income taxes. If Trump doesn't pay ALL his income taxes because he has some crazy psychological aversion to honesty, and there is no reason to think he pays ALL his income tax, he is encouraging other rich people to not pay their taxes. He is showing the wealthy that the voluntary system of calculating taxes is broken if Trump can fake his numbers and nobody can check his returns. By the way, Trump has been caught cheating before he was President. www.google.com/search?q=trump+tax+cheating

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

More lies, innuendo, bullshit and insults from SECONDRATE.

Son, everyone knows you're batshit crazy, with a burning one-sided hatred for all things Republican ever since you were stupid enough to sign up for war in SE Asia. You've got one grotch, and you blather about it endlessly. You're stupid, and worse- you're irrelevant.

Why don't you take your crazy to a psych? We don't do free counseling here.

Trump made a very strong statement today, as would a crazy man:

Asked if he could give the American people a sense of what he pays in federal income tax, he says: “First of all, I’ve paid a lot and I’ve paid a lot of state income taxes, too. ... It’ll all be revealed. It’s going to come out, but after after the audit. They’re doing their assessment. We’ve been negotiating for a long time. Things get settled, like in the IRS. But right now when you’re under audit, you don’t do it. You don’t do that. So we’re under audit. But the story is a total fake.”

www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2020/sep/27/donald-trump-amy-coney-ba
rrett-supreme-court-debate-joe-biden-latest-updates


In addition to the 11 years in which he paid no taxes during the 18 years examined by The Times, he paid only $750 in each of the two most recent years — 2016 and 2017.

I knew Trump had underpaid, but I didn't know he was crazy enough to claim he owed nothing.
He is completely deranged.



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Sunday, September 27, 2020 7:38 PM

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Tick tock second, tick tock

T


Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Tick tock second, tick tock

How many tick tocks does it take before a Trump voter realizes that Trump can completely and finally end all speculation about his sanity by simply making one phone call to his accountant to release his income tax returns?

But I predict Trump will never make that phone call and Trump voters will never realize that if Trump doesn't call he is either crazy or a criminal.

I am absolutely certain, from talking to people about accounting and business, that Trump's tax cheating has made them realize that they can cheat and not get caught because IRS audits can't drill down deep enough since the IRS does not have the personnel nor the budget to do serious forensic auditing. www.investopedia.com/terms/f/forensic-audit.asp

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 8:47 PM

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Yup.

2 nights until Biden is destroyed on national TV.

Tick Tock.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yup.

2 nights until Biden is destroyed on national TV.

Tick Tock.

How does Trump explain away not paying Federal Income Tax for the previous 15 years? Easy for him! He'll say "Fake News." That will be sufficient for the people who already declared Trump the winner of the election, but those people accepted Trump's excuse that all his tax returns are being audited and that's why he can't legally release his returns to the public. It is so funny that Trump lovers believe that fake excuse. It's funnier that a $1 trillion in taxes aren't being collected because the wealthy are following Trump's example of cheating, which doesn't bother Trump lovers.

It is easy to spot the yearly increases in cheating during Trump's Presidency:
https://bipartisanpolicy.org/report/deficit-tracker/
BPC’s economic policy team analyzes the government’s running budget deficit and updates the Deficit Tracker every month.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 10:23 PM

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lol

Trump demands they both be drug tested immediately before or after the debate.


I'd much rather know that Biden doesn't need a shot in the ass of those CIA level drugs to stand up straight and talk coherently for 2 hours than whatever you think you're going to find in those tax documents that the IRS has had since forever, long before Trump was president. You fucking idiot.

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lol

Trump demands they both be drug tested immediately before or after the debate.


I'd much rather know that Biden doesn't need a shot in the ass of those CIA level drugs to stand up straight and talk coherently for 2 hours than whatever you think you're going to find in those tax documents that the IRS has had since forever, long before Trump was president. You fucking idiot.

The tax returns are just one example of how Trump's strangeness plays out in the world. His cheating is causing other people to cheat and the cost will be measured in trillions of dollars.

Trump had a very strange response to Covid-19 and that also has played out in the economy, again costing trillions.

Even more disturbing, Trump is discombobulated about bombs. Because of his strange psychology, the US is no longer protected by nuclear weapons treaties. And he is building new designs of nuclear weapons that can best be used for assassinating heads of state. It hasn't ended the world just yet, but those weapons will be around and the treaties will still be cancelled for many more years. That could go horribly wrong, killing millions of Americans, and it is because Trump has a disorderly mind.

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Sunday, September 27, 2020 11:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
How many tick tocks does it take before a Trump voter realizes that Trump can completely and finally end all speculation about his sanity by simply making one phone call to his accountant to release his income tax returns?

The problem with every single one of your claims, from 'golden showers' and 'kompromat' and 'collusion' on forward is that, when examined, they've proven to be false.

When you've posted an unbroken string of obviously biased and politically motivated lies, why should anyone believe anything at all that you post?

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
How many tick tocks does it take before a Trump voter realizes that Trump can completely and finally end all speculation about his sanity by simply making one phone call to his accountant to release his income tax returns?

The problem with every single one of your claims, from 'golden showers' and 'kompromat' and 'collusion' on forward is that, when examined, they've proven to be false.

Why should anyone believe anything you post?

You've got me mixed up with somebody else. I never cared about the rumors in the Steele Dossier. And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference" in the 2016 election. Trump went crazy and said repeatedly that the Russians did not "collude" with him. Trump tried to make collusion == interference, doing the most he could to confuse the Public's understanding about what was the purpose of the Mueller Investigation.

Too bad for Trump, but the Senate Intelligence Committee reported that the Russians did interfere. Because Trump is very strange in the brain, he has kept insisting, even until today, that what provably happened didn't happen, at least not in Trump's head.

See "Senate Intel Releases Volume 5 of Bipartisan Russia Report" www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume-5-bipar
tisan-russia-report


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And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"
Nice red herring! Because what the FBI investigated was "collusion".

You're a pathological liar.

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And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"
Nice red herring! Because what the FBI investigated was "collusion".

You're a pathological liar.

Signym, you are verging on being as crazy as Trump. The documents are still out there and these say "interfere", not "collude".

1) Rod Rosenstein appointed Mueller to do a “full and thorough investigation of the Russian government’s efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election”.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408/Rosenstein-letter-a
ppointing-Mueller-special.pdf


2) Mueller found that the Russian government did interfere: “The Internet Research Agency (IRA) carried out the earliest Russian interference operations identified by the investigation—a social media campaign designed to provoke and amplify political and social discord in the United States. The IRA was based in St. Petersburg. Russia, and received funding from Russian oligarch Yevgeniy Prigozhin and companies he controlled. Prigozhin is widely reported to have ties to Russian President Vladimir Putin.”

“At the same time that the IRA operation began to focus on supporting candidate Trump in early 2016. the Russian government employed a second form of interference: cyber intrusions (hacking) and releases of hacked materials damaging to the Clinton Campaign. The Russian intelligence service known as the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Army (GRU) carried out these operations.”
https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf

3) Mueller’s Volume 2 said: “Our obstruction-of-justice inquiry focused on a series of actions by the President that related to the Russian-interference investigations, including the President’s conduct towards the law enforcement officials overseeing the investigations and the witnesses to relevant events.”

The conclusion was Trump is a Crook. He didn't collude with the Russians, but the Russians did interfere with the 2016 election.

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1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


I only went to July, 2017 in this list of everything you got wrong.

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Originally posted by SECOND:
And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference" in the 2016 election.


There was you, claiming Trump 'stole' the election.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034047#1034047

Here you claim Russia 'hacked' the DNC and Trump was an 'accessory after the fact' (your words).
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034075#1034075

Here you claim to know what Trump is thinking! and that those idea are 'of Russian origin'.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034158#1034158

Here you claim that Trump hiding his tax returns is because he 'must be hiding something criminal'.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034205#1034205

Here you predict Mueller will find something that'll get rid of Trump.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034210#1034210

Here you claim that Trump is in Putin's pocket.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61377&mid=1
034212#1034212

"Team Trump keeps swearing they’ve disclosed everything and there’s no there there." For once you got something right, and even Mueller eventually agreed.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034227#1034227

"So, where's that evidence?" I asked, and once again you failed to come up with any.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034228#1034228

Here you predict Mueller's report will have evidence, given time.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034264#1034264

Here you claim people in the Trump campaign colluded with Russians to hack the DNC.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034328#1034328

Here you claim Trump's tax returns will be the 'evidence' needed to prove Trump's innocence, because guilty until proved innocent.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034369#1034369

When asked for evidence of Trump colluding with Putin, or being in his pocket (presumably from kompromat), you bail. Again.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034392#1034392

Here you claim that the lack of evidence in the WaPo for their claims is proof of the reporters' honesty.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61678&mid=1
034407#1034407

Here you claim there are 'things' we don't know about Russian collusion because there are still months to go in the Mueller investigation.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=61760&mid=1
034408#1034408




Your record of shilling every phony claim - and being wrong - is quite stellar.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 12:42 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
I only went to July, 2017 in this list of everything you got wrong.

Your record of shilling every phony claim - and being wrong - is quite stellar.

I am pretty sure you fail to understand:

I. (U) FINDINGS
(U) The Committee found that the Russian government engaged in an aggressive, multifaceted effort to influence, or attempt to influence, the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Parts of this effort are outlined in the Committee’s earlier volumes on election security, social media, the Obama Administration’s response to the threat, and the January 2017 Intelligence Community Assessment (ICA).

(U) The fifth and final volume focuses on the counterintelligence threat, outlining a wide range of Russian efforts to influence the Trump Campaign and the 2016 election. In this volume the Committee lays out its findings in detail by looking at many aspects of the counterintelligence threat posed by the Russian influence operation. For example, the Committee examined Paul Manafort’s connections to Russian influence actors and the FBI’s treatment of reporting produced by Christopher Steele. While the Committee does not describe the final result as a complete picture, this volume provides the most comprehensive description to date of Russia’s activities and the threat they posed. This volume presents this information in topical sections in order to address coherently and in detail the wide variety of Russian actions. The events explained in these sections in many cases overlap, and references in each section will direct the reader to those overlapping parts of the volume. Immediately below is a summary of key findings from several sections.

The other 1,300 pages about Trump being completely crazy when he says the Russians did not interfere with the 2016 election are at https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/repo
rt_volume5.pdf


The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, September 28, 2020 1:15 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Where's the evidence?

Or am I supposed to just trust you - and them - after so many (let's graciously call them) errors?

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Monday, September 28, 2020 1:42 AM

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Where's the evidence?

Or am I supposed to just trust you - and them - after so many (let's graciously call them) errors?

"Them" is the Senate Intelligence Committee. There are 5 volumes of their work. If you are accusing "Them" of not coming to the conclusion Trump wanted, well, you will have to put your trust in Trump. But Trump is the "most psychotically disordered president in history".

www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume-5-bipar
tisan-russia-report




“We have the best mortality rates.” - Donald J Trump.... the J is for jenius
“We’re lower than the world.” Everything that comes out of his mouth sounds like a comedy sketch

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Monday, September 28, 2020 1:58 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


So, no evidence?

I figured as much.

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Monday, September 28, 2020 2:01 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
So, no evidence?

I figured as much.

Five volumes of evidence, 1kiki. You can say "no evidence" many times, but that means you are many times crazy.
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/press/senate-intel-releases-volume
-5-bipartisan-russia-report


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Monday, September 28, 2020 2:34 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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SECONDRATE: And the words "Russian collusion" were Trump's words, but what Mueller investigated was "Russian interference"

SIGNY: Nice red herring! Because what the FBI investigated was "collusion".

You're a pathological liar.

SECONDRATE: Signym, you are verging on being as crazy as Trump. The documents are still out there and these say "interfere", not "collude".

SECONDRATE, YOUR THINKING IS AS DISORDERED AS YOU SAY TRUMP'S IS. That, or you can't read.

We are talking about two different investigations. Or hadn't you noticed?

The FIB "investigated" Trump and his campaign before Mueller was ever brought on board That's what all that surveillance and phonied-up FISA warrants were all about. And what was the FIB "investigating" (i.e. concocting)? COLLUSION. Cooperation and coordination between the Trump campaign, and Russia.

And YOU fell for it, over and over and over. Now, you try to pretend it never happened.

Sorry, son, unlike the liberaloids on this board whose brains turn on a dime the moment the M$M narrative changes, I have a memory better than a gnat's... And you sure left plenty of quotes laying around!

*****

Oh, and BTW, the Senate had testimony from Crowdstrike as early as early 2017 that there was NO PROOF that Russia ever extracted the DNC files from the server. Nonetheless, they went ahead with their shitty report, pretending that things happened that THEY knew for a fact didn't.

They lied, and you believed them. Again. Just like you believed Nixon about Vietnam.

You really need a better bullshit detector.

Hmmm... OTOH, if you had one, then all of your posts would vanish, because they too are all bullshit.

*****

Seriously, son, if you want anyone to give you any sort of credibility you REALLY need to stop lying so often!

Putting you back on "ignore".

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