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Covid numbers is the USA the best or the worst? Comparing Corona death numbers with Germany, Brazil, Singapore, Iceland, Japan, France, India etc

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 6:18 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


I dont think its the worst nor the best, a lot of political spin going on for and against Trump. There are some promising looking drugs, only large clinical trials on patients will show if these drugs are working effictive or not.

He's funded US big pharama companiesto start making a cure, buying up the drugs made in India, in Europe in other places there are medicines in development, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19. However, there are several ongoing clinical, there are antiviral studies and trials, many possible ways to try defeat the virus also potential vaccinations. The US has imposed travel restrictions on foreign nationals who have been to Brazil. Russia Approves 1st Coronavirus Vaccine Amid Race For Cure calling it Sputnik-V, some questioned Russia and said it would need longer safety trails, Russia called international concern over vaccine 'groundless'.

In a recent interview with HBO, US President Donald Trump said The United States is lowest in numerous categories. We’re lower than the world, we’re lower than Europe,” Trump said in response, referring to several charts. From Johns Hopkins University, when it comes to countries that have at least 100,000 cases of COVID-19, the U.S. has the sixth-highest number of COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people, ranking behind Chile, Italy, Spain, Peru and the Great Britain.

There seems to be some mis-info out there are rumors about the miracle cures, there was potential the Malaria vaccine might help, the old SARS-CoV-2 and some questions about HCQ in the media, science about hydroxychloroquine, Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are known to have side effects potentially cause heart rhythm problems, Hydroxychloroquine trial are reported restart in some nations. The WHO currently does not recommend self-medication with any medicines, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19, Remdesivir an old Sars vaccine has already been used in some COVID-19 tests, another option seems to be Lopinavir or Ritonavir which block the Virus Protiens, Lopinavir/ritonavir combo has been tested in Mice and Lab Rats, another possible outcome is passive immunisation which you transfer blood from some one who has recovered – or transfusion – of potential protective antibodies, another part of Corona is it causes the body's system to get confused and attack itself, blocking parts of our own immune system that are likely overreacting to SARS-CoV-2 infection and contributing to the damage in the human body, a supressing drug might stop the body going into overdrive and eating itself. There are possibly 21+ Million cases of Corona Globally with over half of those Recovered. India's death toll from the novel coronavirus overtook France's on Friday with 30,601 fatalities and nearly 50,000 new cases. Of the 20 countries with the biggest outbreaks, the US reportedly ranks sixth in deaths per capita, which is 4.5 fatalities per 10,000 people.
France Coronavirus: 204,172 Cases and 30,340 Deaths ...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france

Brazil Coronavirus: 3,317,832 Cases and 107,297 Deaths ...
www.worldometers.info › coronavirus › country › brazil
update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases

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Sunday, August 16, 2020 2:26 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Thanks for your post.

JH doesn't provide per capita figures afaik.

In terms of cases/1M according to WorldOMeter the countries ranking from highest down to the US are:
Qatar 40,986
French Guiana 28,667
Bahrain 27,182
San Marino 20,595
Chile 20,168
Panama 18,660
Kuwait 17,812
USA 16,734

followed by Oman, and Peru, to round out the top 10.

In terms of DEATHS/1M the US is number 10:
San Marino 1,237
Belgium 857
Peru 789
Andorra 686
Spain 612
UK 609
Italy 586
Sweden 572
Chile 546
USA 522

But since the US is supposed to be following Sweden's example, maybe we should hurry up and kill more people.



Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
I don't think its the worst nor the best, a lot of political spin going on for and against Trump. There are some promising looking drugs, only large clinical trials on patients will show if these drugs are working effective or not.

He's funded US big pharama companies to start making a cure, buying up the drugs made in India, in Europe in other places there are medicines in development, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19. However, there are several ongoing clinical, there are antiviral studies and trials, many possible ways to try defeat the virus also potential vaccinations. The US has imposed travel restrictions on foreign nationals who have been to Brazil. Russia Approves 1st Coronavirus Vaccine Amid Race For Cure calling it Sputnik-V, some questioned Russia and said it would need longer safety trails, Russia called international concern over vaccine 'groundless'.

In a recent interview with HBO, US President Donald Trump said The United States is lowest in numerous categories. We’re lower than the world, we’re lower than Europe,” Trump said in response, referring to several charts. From Johns Hopkins University, when it comes to countries that have at least 100,000 cases of COVID-19, the U.S. has the sixth-highest number of COVID-19 deaths per 100,000 people, ranking behind Chile, Italy, Spain, Peru and the Great Britain.

There seems to be some mis-info out there are rumors about the miracle cures, there was potential the Malaria vaccine might help, the old SARS-CoV-2(?) and some questions about HCQ in the media, science about hydroxychloroquine, Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are known to have side effects potentially cause heart rhythm problems, Hydroxychloroquine trial are reported restart in some nations. The WHO currently does not recommend self-medication with any medicines, including antibiotics, as a prevention or cure for COVID-19, Remdesivir an old Sars (Ebola) vaccine (drug) has already been used in some COVID-19 tests, another option seems to be Lopinavir or Ritonavir which block the Virus Protiens, Lopinavir/ritonavir combo has been tested in Mice and Lab Rats, another possible outcome is passive immunization which you transfer blood from some one who has recovered – or transfusion – of potential protective antibodies, another part of Corona is it causes the body's system to get confused and attack itself, blocking parts of our own immune system that are likely overreacting to SARS-CoV-2 infection and contributing to the damage in the human body, a suppressing drug (so far decadron - dexamethasone) might stop the body going into overdrive and eating itself. There are possibly 21+ Million cases of Corona Globally with over half of those Recovered. India's death toll from the novel coronavirus overtook France's on Friday with 30,601 fatalities and nearly 50,000 new cases. Of the 20 countries with the biggest outbreaks, the US reportedly ranks sixth in deaths per capita, which is 4.5 fatalities per 10,000 people.
France Coronavirus: 204,172 Cases and 30,340 Deaths ...
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/france

Brazil Coronavirus: 3,317,832 Cases and 107,297 Deaths ...
www.worldometers.info › coronavirus › country › brazil
update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases


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Monday, August 17, 2020 8:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody is killing anybody.

That is, unless this was developed in a Chinese lab. Then somebody did kill some people.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:12 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Yeah, COVID-19 was completely unavoidable and no one could possibly have done anything.

/snicker

I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.

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Monday, August 17, 2020 9:13 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


I'm sure you would have done a much better job, Karen.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 2:45 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by JACKAREN:
I'm sure you would have done a much better job, Karen.


Do Right, Be Right. :)

Almost anybody would have done a better job about COVID-19 than Trump.

Yanno, I give credit to Trump for the things he's done right.

But I definitely ding him on his overall SARS-CoV-2 response. The only person I imagine doing as badly as Trump - or maybe worse - on this, is Pence. Or you, because your notions are irrational and fact-free. But then, you're not in charge of anything so that doesn't count.

I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACK over the edge with too much reality.

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hardly anybody has died.

The numbers are bullshit and history will prove me right.


Your idiot Karen leaders destroyed the economy over nothing.

I'll wait for an apology from you when that's clear enough that a dummy like you can see the truth.



In the mean time, have fun Karening, Karen.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, August 17, 2020 10:22 PM

REAVERFAN


Russian trolls are hilarious.

Like stupid people, they just don't know it.

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Monday, August 17, 2020 11:32 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




I apologize to everyone for starting a thread to keep up with facts about SARS-COV-2, and driving JACKAREN over the edge with too much reality.

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Friday, September 11, 2020 5:48 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


With 4.2 million Covid-19 cases, India pips Brazil to take second slot after US
https://www.domain-b.com/defence/general/20200910_cases.html

India overtakes Brazil with the world's second-worst coronavirus caseload
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/india-ov
ertakes-brazil-worlds-second-worst-coronavirus-caseload
/

Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hardly anybody has died.



Death Rates seem to be different for each country, places where it overwhelms the health system like Italy Spain you get higher fatality rates, worse again when it hits vulnerable spots like nursing homes

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Saturday, October 3, 2020 7:17 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Paris could be put on "maximum alert," lockdown as ICU bed occupancy hits critical level

https://www.newsweek.com/coronavirus-paris-maximum-alert-icu-critical-
1536025

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Saturday, October 3, 2020 7:54 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


It's probably best to look at per capita figures.

If 0.0001 B people die (100,000) it tells a different story if it's in India population 1.38 B or in Iceland population 0.0003 B.

For per capita figures go here: http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

Current top 10 per capita ranking from high to low is:
San Marino
Peru
Belgium
Bolivia
Brazil
Spain
Andorra
Chile
US / Ecuador
UK

Note that San Marino's had 0 deaths for 4 months, and Belgium's had < 1death/M for 4 months. So they accumulated their per capita deaths very early in the pandemic, but have since brought it under control.

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Monday, October 5, 2020 2:25 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Florida coronavirus infections reach 717,874, deaths at 14,712
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-
monday-october-5-20201005-o4lt5zcx6newrfpzvjddiywsum-story.html


India’s coronavirus fatalities top 100,000, behind only U.S. and Brazil
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/10/02/breaking-news/indias-coronav
irus-fatalities-top-100000-behind-only-u-s-and-brazil
/

Russia's coronavirus death toll may actually be double official figures
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8807293/Russias-coronavirus-d
eath-toll-actually-double-official-figures.html


Coronavirus live news: France sees record new cases; virus may be becoming more contagious
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/25/coronavirus-live-ne
ws-france-sees-record-new-cases-virus-may-be-becoming-more-contagious?page=with:block-5f6d68a08f082a8cb2133720

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Monday, October 5, 2020 11:39 PM

REAVERFAN


Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Quote:

Florida coronavirus infections reach 717,874, deaths at 14,712
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/coronavirus/os-ne-florida-coronavirus-
monday-october-5-20201005-o4lt5zcx6newrfpzvjddiywsum-story.ht
]

Trumptards refuse to wear masks. End of.

Quote:

India’s coronavirus fatalities top 100,000, behind only U.S. and Brazil
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/10/02/breaking-news/indias-coronav
irus-fatalities-top-100000-behind-only-u-s-and-brazil/
]

India is a 3rd world country with 3 times the population of the US. Math. They're handling it way better than Trump is.

Quote:

Russia's coronavirus death toll may actually be double official figures
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8807293/Russias-coronavirus-d
eath-toll-actually-double-official-figures.html
]

Putin is a murderous, fascist dictator. The most powerful man on Earth. He's fine with lots of dead Russians. He'll make more.

Quote:

Coronavirus live news: France sees record new cases; virus may be becoming more contagious
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/25/coronavirus-live-ne
ws-france-sees-record-new-cases-virus-may-be-becoming-more-contagious?page=with:block-5f6d68a08f082a8cb2133720




France had the continent’s first confirmed cases of the novel coronavirus, but the French government failed for weeks to take decisive action to impose strict social distancing measures or promote large-scale testing. Germany, on the other hand, immediately began aggressively testing and tracking people with symptoms.

Now, France is under lockdown and has just extended it until at least May 11. Meanwhile, Germany plans to reopen part of its economy next week.

The experiences of these two countries show that just having substantial national wealth and high quality health care systems isn’t enough to keep citizens safe from the deadly coronavirus. Saving lives is also about how quickly, thoroughly, and effectively the government responds to the brewing crisis. Any delay, it seems, is very costly.

“Countries that were slow to respond have, so far, paid the price,” Thomas Bollyky, a global health expert at the Council on Foreign Relations think tank, told me last month.

If there’s a lesson for world governments, then, it’s to be more like Germany — not France.
https://www.vox.com/2020/4/17/21223915/coronavirus-germany-france-case
s-death-rate

---
Governments exist, ostensibly, to ensure the wellbeing of their people, insofar as they can. Trump has failed miserably:

The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its coronavirus cases
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/30/health/us-coronavirus-toll-in-numbers-j
une-trnd/index.html


We are the worst. It's all due to Trump's narcissism.

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Monday, November 23, 2020 12:23 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


I'm not sure I trust the numbers from Taiwan, China, Korea, Japan but these Corona numbers were posted on wikipedia and let's look at them here

It would be interesting to compare Major cities, here are regions compared, parts of Asia perhaps coming across virus like SARS and MERS and neo animal-flus evolving from markets seems to have been ready for a lockdown or some kind of medical strategy

North America 12,234,890 - Deaths 725 Per Millions
South America 10,606,820 - Deaths 740
Central America 1,571,442 - Deaths 640 Per Million

East Asia 315,416 - Deaths 4 per Million?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_by_country_and_territo
ry#Cases_and_deaths_by_region


Six Oceania sovereign states have yet to report a case: Kiribati, the Federated States of Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Tonga, and Tuvalu. Australia and New Zealand have been praised for their handling of the pandemic compared to other western nations, with the latter wiping out all community transmission of the virus. The most recent country or territory to report its first confirmed case was Samoa, on 18 November 2020.

The COVID-19 pandemic spread to a number of cruise ships, with the nature of such ships—including crowded semi-enclosed areas, increased exposure to new environments, and limited medical resources—contributing to the heightened risk and rapid spread of the disease

The COVID-19 pandemic spread to many military ships. The nature of these ships, which includes working with others in small enclosed areas and a lack of private quarters for the vast majority of crew, contributed to the rapid spread of the disease, even more so than on cruise ships

USA numbers?

3 million COVID-19 cases reported across US in November

https://nypost.com/2020/11/23/3-million-covid-19-cases-reported-across
-us-in-november
/

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Monday, November 30, 2020 10:44 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Who is the most famous person killed by covid-19 so far?
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-famous-person-killed
-by-covid-19-so-far/849987


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hardly anybody has died.



No, people have died the number seems high but its not a Doomsday virus like the Black Death or Plague


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Monday, November 30, 2020 11:40 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


No. The numbers don't even seem high. Not even 4 times the amount of flu deaths a few years back.

And we've never stolen the cause of death to attribute it to the flu like we've done for Covid this year.

What have you done today to earn your place in this crowded world? :)

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Saturday, January 30, 2021 1:05 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Maybe it's a Covid-Ebola love child?




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A government is a body of people usually, notably, governed by Mark Zuckerborg and Slack Dorsey.

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Friday, February 12, 2021 7:56 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Saturday, June 19, 2021 9:37 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Saturday, June 19, 2021 10:39 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


James Corden can't persuade me to get one by making an ass of himself.



What makes Biden* think he can?



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Give me liberty or just come shoot me in my house. I'm so over this ridiculous reality.

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Friday, May 13, 2022 5:44 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Virus might vanish eventually become a common cold due to a more wild variant

USA, India, Brazil continue to have the worst numbers of cases with with French, British, Russia, Italy, and Mexico going catching up?
Seems like France will hit Third place soon

USA, Brazil, India have the worst deaths with British, Italians, some in Peru, Mexico, Indonesia catching up
Per head of population it seems Latin America and Eastern Europe have the worst deaths.

In some parts of the world people seem to continue being paranoid about the virus


Quote:


Who is the most famous person killed by covid-19 so far?
https://boards.straightdope.com/t/who-is-the-most-famous-person-killed
-by-covid-19-so-far/849987





In the USA?

When autumn leaves Start to fall? A very famous person everyone knows of but doesn’t know their name: George Holliday, the man who video taped the Rodney King beating, died last fall of Covid-19. He had been hospitalized for over a month at the time of his death.

In France?

Robert Hossein was “one of the most prominent leading men” in French cinema from the mid-50s.
but it seems he also had cancer so maybe it should not be counted as a Covid Death?

In Britain or StarWars fandom?

The Green Cross Man is a costumed superhero character created in England in mid-1970 as an aid to teaching young children the Green Cross Code, and for promoting general road safety via television adverts. British actor David Prowse, who went on to portray Darth Vader in the film Star Wars (1977), played the character in a series of Public Information Films sponsored by the British Government's Central Office of Information for the Department of the Environment.

In songwriter and court room tv drama and audio engineer circles?
Phil Spector
an American record producer and songwriter.

News media and Political people in the States and Canada
James Cross was a diplomat kidnapped by terrorists but he was 99 years of Age also Larry King but he too was very old.

In Music and Sport
there are rumors Meat Loaf died of Covid however I have yet to find it confirmed, he was also overweight. There is also Charley Pride, a 'Negro Leagues Baseball Player' and as well as Minor League Player but more famous for his singer talent getting a number of top 10 music chart hits.

Among scifi readers?
Ben Bova a science fiction author

In Africa Tanzania
it seems they Lost their President, Tanzania's Covid-denying president, John Magufuli, died?

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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:02 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Republicans allege Biden admin may have tried to 'cut corners' on FDA's COVID vax approval process

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republicans-allege-biden-admin-tried-
cut-corners-fdas-covid-vax-approval-process


Quote:


14 DAYS TO ...became 4 years?

UK health chiefs crank up plans for spring AND autumn Covid vaccine roll-outs

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11675253/UK-health-chiefs-c
rank-plans-spring-autumn-Covid-vaccine-roll-outs.html


Quote:




USA 89,527,000 +
India 43,513,117
Brazil 32,476,920

and

608,887 Americans have died from COVID-19 since President Joe Biden took office. He promised the American people he would "shut down the virus." (Fact check: He has not.)






links

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

,

https://freebeacon.com/coronavirus/biden-covid-death-tracker/

meanwhile 1000,000 dying of drugs smuggled across the border

Brazil has dropped to fifth place


1USA
2India
3France
4Germany
5Brazil



Should Australian workplaces drop COVID vaccine requirements?
https://www.sbs.com.au/language/english/en/article/is-it-time-australi
an-workplaces-drop-covid-19-vaccine-mandate/zwujg2eoa

Companies such as Coles and Qantas have scrapped COVID-19 vaccine requirements for their employees.

Spike in deaths in Australia from COVID illnesses, not vaccine
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-COVID-coronavirus-vaccine-austra
lia-125014733236




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Tuesday, March 21, 2023 11:54 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
Republicans allege Biden admin may have tried to 'cut corners' on FDA's COVID vax approval process



"may have"



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Growing up in a Republic was nice... Shame we couldn't keep it.

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Wednesday, May 3, 2023 4:57 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


So it might be finally over after 4 Years!!!

'Biden ends COVID vaccine mandates for feds, international flyers'

https://nypost.com/2023/05/01/biden-ends-covid-vaccine-mandates-for-fe
ds-and-flyers
/

Australia, Canada, New Zealand had very strong Lockdowns but it looks like they also mind fragged their own people with isolation, depression, mental illness also not going outside and interacting screws with immune systems. Despite heavy Lockdown Australia still had 20,200 + Death, New Zealand 4,000 + Dead and Canada 52,000 + so Covid and the Fear of Covid continued to spread across Canada despite the government saying it was in control with heavy restriction.
Even the Chinese who normally follow the rules of the China government got pissed off and almost started to riot and wanted life to return to normal.
Restrictions does not seem to do much once thew virus is already inside the country, Ranking at 74 is Japan which used strong restrictions, ranking at 78 is Sweden which attempted herd immunity but unfortunately sacrificed many of its elderly population once Covid got inside Nursing homes.

Isolated islands and locked in city states had some of the smallest deaths Tuvalu, Saint Helena, Falkland Islands, Vatican City, Cook Islands, Africa and many Tropical Countries had Low Death as Strong UV or Strong Sunlight kills Covid and also they have worse things to worry about in some of these nations like a Militia Revolution killing the Government, AIDs, Malaria, Civil War etc

The USA had the highest number of cases, also when counting per million of Population in Corona virus 'Cases' some countries do have higher cases. South Korea, Iceland, San Marino, Faeroe Islands, Austria, Slovenia, Brunei, Andorra, Martinique, France, Gibraltar rank higher but they might have allowed a less fatal variant to burn through their populations, the worst deaths per Million of Population are Former Communist Eastern European countries or Latin American nation of Peru, the USA ranks at 15 for Deaths per Million of Population.

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