A remarkable and nightmarish scene playing out in Portland should terrify anyone who cares about the US constitution by reaverfan

Nah. If he were Muslim, Vox and CNN would be singing his praises now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:29 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Apparently there are riots and demonstrations in Seattle, Atlanta, Chicago, Portland.

I've seen riots and demonstrations as bad and worse, but that was over THE DRAFT. It was an existential question for many young men: Whether their draft number was low enough that they'd be sent to Vietnam to kill and possibly be killed or maimed. (SECOND jumped into that quagmore with both feet, so to speak. He believed lies.)

And what it BLM/Antifa getting all worked up about?

Statues. Statues that wouldn't make a damn but of difference to anybody if they stood or fell.

When I see such pointless, media-driven frenzy, the first thing I think of is "color revolution": take some point of difference in a population (white/black, male/female, language, religion, whether you make the sign of the cross with our left or right hand...people have been killed over that) and keep hammering on it like a wedge until you split the population.

When TPTB have to foment insurrection and dissolution instead of working towards a future, you know they'verun out of ideas. IMHO they're trying to distract from the upcoming indictments that will see some of them in jail.

I tried to tell you: We need to be working on What are AMERICA'S interest? What solutions can we work towards that work for EVERYBODY?

But that question and thought seems to have been tossed into the ditch in pursuit of your narrow agendas, and the only people that divisiveness works for are the people who pitted us against each other.

GOOD JOB, DUPES! /SNARK

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:33 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I've seen riots and demonstrations as bad and worse, but that was over THE DRAFT. It was an existential question for many young men: Whether their draft number was low enough that they'd be sent to Vietnam to kill and possibly be killed or maimed. (SECOND jumped into that quagmore with both feet, so to speak. He believed lies.)

I compare myself to Senator John Kerry. He also bought the lies: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kerry#Return_from_Vietnam

I saw them on TV but I failed to listen to Kerry, Noam Chomsky, and George McGovern:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Noam_Chomsky#Oppo
sition_to_the_Vietnam_War
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_McGovern#Middle_Senate_years_and_
continued_opposition_to_the_Vietnam_War

Chomsky's view of the war is different from orthodox anti-war opinion which holds the war as a tragic mistake. He argues that the war was a success from the US point of view. According to Chomsky's view the main aim of US policy was the destruction of the nationalist movements in the Vietnamese peasantry. He holds that the US government was not so concerned with the spread of state Communism and authoritarianism but rather of nationalist movements that would not be sufficiently subservient to US economic interests.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 7:42 AM

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 8:23 AM

BEFORE PORTLAND, TRUMP’S SHOCK TROOPS WENT AFTER BORDER ACTIVISTS
https://theintercept.com/2020/07/25/portland-federal-agents-antifa-bor
der/

"Brownshirts" would be accurate.

The surveillance was just one politicized DHS operation among many that have taken place under the Trump administration. The same Border Patrol tactical teams currently on the ground in Oregon were also deployed to provide muscle and a visible show of strength for Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers conducting a crackdown on New York and other so-called sanctuary cities earlier this year. During the enforcement blitz, an ICE officer dressed in tactical gear was spotted knocking on doors in a Bronx apartment building with a rifle propped against his shoulder. In Brooklyn, a team of ICE officers shot a man in the face while attempting to make an arrest. As The Intercept reported in March, the escalated enforcement came as New York City was becoming the global epicenter for the coronavirus pandemic and led to the filling of local jails, which in turn became hot spots for Covid-19.

“We were raising the alarm about it,” Douša said. “It feels like we’ve been screaming into a vacuum.”

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:16 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I tried to tell you: We need to be working on What are AMERICA'S interest? What solutions can we work towards that work for EVERYBODY?

But that question and thought seems to have been tossed into the ditch in pursuit of your narrow agendas, and the only people that divisiveness works for are the people who pitted us against each other.

It is in most Americans' best interests to avoid death. But for a few Americans there is money to be made by making death more likely. See the article: "Emails show how energy industry helped repeal methane rules"
https://web.archive.org/web/20200726100948/https://www.houstonchronicl
e.com/us-world/article/New-Emails-Show-How-Energy-Industry-Moved-Fast-to-15434297.php

There is a connection between making more money by dumping methane into the air and killing people by climate change. Trump claims there is no connection because there is no man-made climate change. (It's a Chinese Hoax, he tweets.
www.politifact.com/factchecks/2016/jun/03/hillary-clinton/yes-donald-t
rump-did-call-climate-change-chinese-h/ )

The people making the money know better than Trump, but they are also not the people who will die, therefore they want Trump to free them from any obligations to not dump methane into the air. Trump obliged them. He freed them of regulations.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 12:19 PM

Trump is calling protesters who disagree with him terrorists. That puts him in the company of the world's autocrats
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/25/politics/us-protests-trump-terrorists-i
ntl

Heavily armed, unidentifiable security agents dressed in camouflage have been snatching anti-racism protesters off the streets of Portland, Oregon, and bundling them into unmarked cars, with no clear justification. They're scenes you might expect to see in authoritarian countries, not in America.

It turns out that among the hodge-podge of paramilitary-style officers wearing no name badges were many from the Department of Homeland Security, established after 9/11 primarily to deal with terrorism. More specifically, the officers were from the department's Customs and Border Protection agency, which is supposed "to safeguard America's borders" from dangerous people and materials.
US President Donald Trump has repeatedly branded anti-racism protesters in the country as "terrorists," and his promise to "surge" his paramilitary-style units from Portland to other Democrat-run cities in coming weeks shows he is willing to employ the repressive tactics used by autocrats to vilify those who challenge them.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 12:51 PM

Your tax $ at work...

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 1:14 PM

They are terrorists.

But not because they disagree with Trump.

That's just a byproduct of their diseased minds and diseased ideology.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 1:44 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
SIGNYM:

I tried to tell you: We need to be working on What are AMERICA'S interest? What solutions can we work towards that work for EVERYBODY?

But that question and thought seems to have been tossed into the ditch in pursuit of your narrow agendas, and the only people that divisiveness works for are the people who pitted us against each other.

SECOND:It is in most Americans' best interests to avoid death.

So why are they out there protesting cheek by jowl?

I would discuss this with you, but you have no interest in a rational discussion. All you will do is use my posts as an excuse to throw even more shit against the wall.

One of these days, if you can get off YOUR narrow RNC v DNC agenda,we might actually have a chat.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 1:50 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:

Your tax $ at work...

Tweets are for fools. Let's see some solid reporting on this before we post it as being true.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 1:51 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Your tax $ at work...

Once again, REAVERBOT posts evidence-free accusations. This time he stoops to Twitter (notorious source of "truth") since not even the corprorate-controlled M$M carries this allegation.

As usual REAVERBOT, your accusations run very far ahead of evidence. You did the same with RUSSIA!RUSSIA!, Covington kids, and other topics.

Look, I know you want revolution, but nobody here is stupid enough to be worked up by your chumming the waters.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 3:30 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Wow. Talk about missing the point.

No one on the planet ever said the Indians were angels.

No one. Ever. In the history of all the world. Stop straw-manning. They cannot be compared to fucking Columbus.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

You're right, REAVERBOT. If natives had gotten into ships and sailed eastwards towards Europe - which technically would have been easier since they would have been sailing with the prevailing winds from the west - and discovered a continent full of white people, THEN there would be some sort of comparison. But they didn't.

Reality is that the Europeans were technologically far more advanced and took advantage of that to dominate much of the world.

Guns Germs and Steel, Jared Diamond

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 3:42 PM

Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.

http://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

What has not been reported widely in the media, however, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit that is coordinating the “crowd control” effort — an agency called the Federal Protective Service (FPS) — is composed largely of contract security personnel. Those contractors are being furnished to FPS by major private-sector security companies like Blackwater corporate descendant Triple Canopy as well as dozens of other private security firms.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:31 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
SIGNYM:

I tried to tell you: We need to be working on What are AMERICA'S interest? What solutions can we work towards that work for EVERYBODY?

But that question and thought seems to have been tossed into the ditch in pursuit of your narrow agendas, and the only people that divisiveness works for are the people who pitted us against each other.

SECOND:It is in most Americans' best interests to avoid death.
So why are they out there protesting cheek by jowl?

I would discuss this with you, but you have no interest in a rational discussion. All you will do is use my posts as an excuse to throw even more shit against the wall.

One of these days, if you can get off YOUR narrow RNC v DNC agenda,we might actually have a chat.

We will never have that chat because I live in an engineer's simple, binary world of picking either D or R, life or death, left or right, and Signym lives, in my opinion, in the tediously garrulous world of blathering philosophers taking forever to weigh all the evidence before making a nuanced decision. I'm happy to make quick and ugly decisions about four times a year that could bankrupt me using only my crude heuristic methods. For me, politics is more of the same -- an area of life that needs a fast decision, while Signym wants to mull it over leisurely and then make a delicate, careful and reversible decision. That is not who I am. The way I attack the world, ripping its beating heart out of its chest with my grubby hands, is philosophically incompatible with the sterile, surgical way Signym contemplates the world.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 4:49 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.

All I know is that you've passed along a lot of unverified bullshit which has later on been proven to be false.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 5:08 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:
Originally posted by reaverfan:
Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.
All I know is that you've passed along a lot of unverified bullshit which has later on been proven to be false.

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Why are you lying? Are you really that out of ammo that you have to lie?

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 5:09 PM

Drivers Are Hitting Protesters as Memes of Car Attacks Spread
In recent days, one person was killed in Seattle and two people were injured in Bloomington, Ind. Dozens of similar incidents have occurred across the United States.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/us/bloomington-car-attack-protester
s.html

Dozens of similar incidents have occurred across the United States in recent weeks, although it is difficult to assess which attacks are premeditated and which are prompted by rage when drivers find their route blocked by crowds. The tactic has previously been mostly used by extremist jihadist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda, as well as Palestinian militants.

“It is not just an extremist thing here, but there are social media circles online where people are sharing these and joking about them because they disagree with the protests and their methods,” said Ari E. Weil, the deputy research director at the Chicago Project on Security and Threats of the University of Chicago. “Sharing memes and joking about running over people can lead to real danger.”

The latest:

Aurora protest: One shot after car drives through Black Lives Matter demonstrators in Colorado
https://news.yahoo.com/aurora-protest-one-shot-car-111145746.html

Looks like the Nazis are following their memes again.

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 5:28 PM

Don't stand in the street.

Problem solved.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:23 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't stand in the street.

Problem solved.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, no! Let Trump solve it and help his reelection at the same time.

“The president is attacking progressive cities with troops who are unwelcome and unskilled,” Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler said last week in a letter signed by 16 mayors calling on Trump to reverse his orders. “Militarized agents are terrorizing the American people. We must stand together for peace and reform, and against these un-American tactics.”

Wolf said on Sunday that if officials in Oregon did their jobs, then the federal government would not have to send in its agents. (Let Trump do the job and help his reelection at the same time.)

“We see city leadership there has fostered an environment that allows these criminals to do this throughout the night, untouched, absolutely untouched. It's time for Portland to join other responsible cities around this country working with federal law enforcement to address this violence,” he said. (Let Trump do the job and help his reelection at the same time.)

Wolf added: “We need Portland to step up to the plate, do their responsibility and work with us to address violent criminal activity occurring every night.” (Let Trump do the job and help his reelection at the same time.)

www.foxnews.com/politics/dhs-sec-wolf-says-portland-protests-different
-from-normal-criminal-activity

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 9:29 PM

Don't stand in the street.

Problem solved.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, July 26, 2020 10:07 PM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't stand in the street.

Problem solved.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Perhaps Trump should send soldiers to warn with bullhorns: "Don't stand in the street. Reelect Donald J Trump." That is a very fine use for troops! If governors of 25 states contradict him, Trump will go to the Supreme Court to get a ruling that it is perfectly proper because he is President and governors can't tell Trump anything he doesn't want to know. So there!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 27, 2020 3:11 AM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

Quote:
Originally posted by REAVERBOT:
Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.

SIGNY: All I know is that you've passed along a lot of unverified bullshit which has later on been proven to be false.

REAVERBOT: Why are you lying? Are you really that out of ammo that you have to lie?

Well, let's see.
Every time you call me - or anyone- a "Russian troll" you're posting unverified bullshit. Now, I happen to know for a fact that I'm not Russian and not a troll paid or otherwise, so I know for a fact that you're wrong.

You called AOC an

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award winning academic

BWAHAHA!!!

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Start at the start. "Your racial identity is the most important thing. Everything should be looked at through the lens of race." No one on the left has ever said such a thing. This failed attempt at humor is an attempt to attack the left with lies through a false centrism.

Never use the word "never". Or no one. You can't possibly know what everyone has said, so you can't possibly know that nobody ever said it.

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Two DHS Officials Apparently Just Admitted Their Troops Have Been Violating the Constitution

Baloney.

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Nothing Can Justify the Attack on Portland

More baloney

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When tyranny becomes the law, revolt becomes the patriot's duty.

Still more baloney. Also, treason.

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I've never wanted to punch a racist so bad in my life. (covington)

Jump to conclusions much?

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Biden is a corporate whore and the Republican's best friend. He is the worst possible candidate the Dems could come up with.

Hey look! One rational statement!

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President Trump’s ‘America First’ slogan was popularized by Nazi sympathizers

Name-calling and unsupported assertion

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Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity credibly accused of rape

100% wrong ... that's not even in the article that you linked.

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Most pigs who become pigs do so out of a desire to beat and kill people. They live for it.

Spoken out of pure ignorance, 100% unsupported assertion

*****

This is just a sampling of all of the times you've been "right".
Yanno, when you post shit like that you sound just like Trump. And that's not a compliment.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 5:18 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Tweets are for fools. T

And yet you, SECOND, RF, WISHI and even CC get exercised every time Trump tweets, and spend pages and hours focused on how BAD Trump is for tweeting such stuff.
Personally, I've ignored Trump's tweets because Tweets are for fools. But you all seem as mesmerized as the snake is by the snake charmer.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 5:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

Getting back to Portland and the riots:

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Portland, Seattle Declare Riots; Chicago Pushback: Protest Wrap

(Bloomberg) -- Protests, in places violent, roiled U.S. cities overnight, as demonstrations reignited at the presence of federal troops.
In Seattle, a riot was declared after thousands of protesters battled with police: throwing rocks, bottles, fireworks and other explosives.
Other protests flared in New York, Los Angeles, Oakland, Omaha, Nebraska, among other cities. Police in Aurora, Colorado, said on Twitter that a vehicle drove through a crowd of protesters, one of whom fired a gun and hit another protester.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-07-26/portland-and-seattl
e-declare-riots-texas-shooting-protest-wrap

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Police declare riots as protests turn violent in cities nationwide; 1 demonstrator dead in Austin
Police declared 'riots' in Oregon, Washington, California and Virginia.

(abc) Peaceful protests against police brutality and the presence of federal agents at demonstrations turned violent as police in several large cities across the country declared riots, and one protester in Austin was killed in a shooting that erupted during a weekend of civil unrest.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-declare-riots-protests-turn-violent-c
ities-nationwide/story?id=71994983

But let's just everyone keep rioting. THAT"LL show Trump !!!

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Monday, July 27, 2020 7:07 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Don't stand in the street.

Problem solved.

Do Right, Be Right. :)
Perhaps Trump should send soldiers to warn with bullhorns: "Don't stand in the street. Reelect Donald J Trump." That is a very fine use for troops! If governors of 25 states contradict him, Trump will go to the Supreme Court to get a ruling that it is perfectly proper because he is President and governors can't tell Trump anything he doesn't want to know. So there!

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Maybe they should just teach it in schools?

I dunno. I think I probably learned from my parents before I was 2 years old not to stand in the street.

But at some point you can't blame bad parenting anymore. If a grown ass adult wants to role play Che Guevara in the middle of the interstate even when there is YouTube videos showing other grown ass adult LARPers being run down by vehicles that always win in that scenario, I think this is just Darwinism.

No pity from rational minds for idiots being mowed down by motorists if they're playing in the streets.

Call me when people start off-roading and hitting pedestrians on the sidewalks.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 27, 2020 8:04 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by 1KIKI:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Tweets are for fools. T
And yet you, SECOND, RF, WISHI and even CC get exercised every time Trump tweets, and spend pages and hours focused on how BAD Trump is for tweeting such stuff.
Personally, I've ignored Trump's tweets because Tweets are for fools. But you all seem as mesmerized as the snake is by the snake charmer.

Personally, I admire Trump's courageous response to Covid-19, which includes a tax cut. He is a strong and forceful leader fighting a pandemic with all his might and intelligence: "The president has been fixated on a payroll tax cut for months, even though it has fallen on deaf ears on Capitol Hill."
www.politico.com/news/2020/07/16/trump-payroll-tax-cut-coronavirus-rel
ief-bill-366506

And Trump has used his vast negotiation skills (with N Korea for just one example, but there is also Iran!) to keep the USA safe from nuclear war! I feel so very pleased knowing Trump is in charge: "Fumbling the nuclear football: is Trump blundering to arms control chaos?"
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/24/nuclear-weapons-donald-trump-arm
s-control-chaos

And Trump has done a wonderful job about climate change: "As the president guts environmental regulations, an Interior Department official has been found sneaking misleading and debunked claims in government reports."
www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/the-trump-administration-is-just-flat-
out-lying-about-climate-change

With 22 million illegal aliens living long term inside the USA, how many has Trump deported? Thousands! What an excellent job he has done! Just 22 million more to go and he will have completed the task: "Why Trump Has Deported Fewer Immigrants Than Obama. Trump, who made immigration a key plank of his 2016 campaign, is struggling to crank up deportations."
www.wsj.com/articles/why-trump-has-deported-fewer-immigrants-than-obam
a-11564824601

If you read only Trump's tweets, you won't know all the amazing things he has done to America.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 27, 2020 8:15 AM

America is Having the Mother of All Social Collapses
If American Life Feels Frightening, It’s Because It’s Imploding — In Gruesome and Catastrophic Ways
https://eand.co/america-is-having-the-mother-of-all-social-collapses-1
cac9aac0d17

When I say “The Mother of All Social Collapses,” I mean it. Trump’s America is a society that combines all the strands of social collapse that we know of — and then some. Yes, really.

Economically, Trump’s America is Soviet. Politically and socially, it resembles Nazi Germany. And culturally, it’s Taliban-esque, aggressively retrograde. That’s a lot of ruin for one country, which is why it’s so hard to put into words. It really is breathtaking and staggering when you think about it.
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That brings me to the next thing Trump’s America is. It’s also pretty, well, Nazi. Yes, Nazi. Look, before you react angrily to that, sputtering into denial let me say one thing: the entire world thinks this. I’m only sharing with you what every single person who’s not American says to me every single goddamned day. From my friend Ben the grizzled London copper to my friend Art in Hong Kong to all my friends in Canada, Europe, and Africa. It’s the very first topic of discussion I have with a baffled and horrified world. Americans are the only ones who are still in denial about it.
Trump’s America is pretty Nazi. Come on — it’s not exactly hard to see. Concentration camps, kids in them, kids in cages in them, family separations, raids, bans, purges, hate, dehumanization, and so on. Who else does that? Accountants? Sure, sometimes, but when they do, they’ve become…Nazis.

We’re all taught about Nazism over and over again from the time we’re little kids, over and over again, so that it sinks into us. But while the entire world is now like “Wow, America turned kind of Nazi, huh?” by and large, within America, that’s still somehow a controversial proposition. You get the blank look from Americans when you say the word fascism — the one that everyone who’s not American knows, when the mind shuts down, when a truth too dangerous to utter has been spoken. Of course, that’s also fascism.

Trump’s America is a place where the denial of the good people runs rampant. Nazis? What Nazis? Where? Denial is a crucial element in a society turning politically Nazi. When I say “America resembles Nazi Germany politically and socially,” I don’t just mean the Trumpists — I also mean the regular old American who’s the only person left on planet earth who’s still in denial about it, like the good German of the 1930s.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 8:23 AM

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Monday, July 27, 2020 9:04 AM

Memorial fundraiser for Garrett Foster, antiracist comrade murdered last night in Austin, TX

Garrett Foster was murdered last night July 25th while attending a peaceful protest in Austin, TX with his disabled fiancée in her wheelchair. An unknown vehicle barreled into the crowd and this evil person shot and killed Garrett, while he was trying to protect his fiancée. A great person was taken away from his fiancée, his mother, father , siblings and a host of loving family members. He fought against injustice , served in the military and was fiercely protective of his fiancée. They fell in love at 17 and were never apart. This fund is established to cover funeral, burial and other expenses in the days to come. We appreciate all the love, support and compassion during this emotional time.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/official-garrett-foster-memorial-fund

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Monday, July 27, 2020 9:16 AM

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Originally posted by REAVERBOT:
Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.

SIGNY: All I know is that you've passed along a lot of unverified bullshit which has later on been proven to be false.

REAVERBOT: Why are you lying? Are you really that out of ammo that you have to lie?

Well, let's see.
Every time you call me - or anyone- a "Russian troll" you're posting unverified bullshit. Now, I happen to know for a fact that I'm not Russian and not a troll paid or otherwise, so I know for a fact that you're wrong.

You called AOC an
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award winning academic
BWAHAHA!!!

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Start at the start. "Your racial identity is the most important thing. Everything should be looked at through the lens of race." No one on the left has ever said such a thing. This failed attempt at humor is an attempt to attack the left with lies through a false centrism.
Never use the word "never". Or no one. You can't possibly know what everyone has said, so you can't possibly know that nobody ever said it.

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Two DHS Officials Apparently Just Admitted Their Troops Have Been Violating the Constitution
Baloney.

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Nothing Can Justify the Attack on Portland
More baloney

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When tyranny becomes the law, revolt becomes the patriot's duty.
Still more baloney. Also, treason.

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I've never wanted to punch a racist so bad in my life. (covington)
Jump to conclusions much?

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Biden is a corporate whore and the Republican's best friend. He is the worst possible candidate the Dems could come up with.
Hey look! One rational statement!

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President Trump’s ‘America First’ slogan was popularized by Nazi sympathizers
Name-calling and unsupported assertion

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Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity credibly accused of rape
100% wrong ... that's not even in the article that you linked.

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Most pigs who become pigs do so out of a desire to beat and kill people. They live for it.
Spoken out of pure ignorance, 100% unsupported assertion

*****

This is just a sampling of all of the times you've been "right".
Yanno, when you post shit like that you sound just like Trump. And that's not a compliment.

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Thanks for proving me right, yet again. Every statement made by me was indeed correct. I am well-known and widely respected for my truth-telling and always-spot-on documentation.

The fact that you're woefully uninformed, a proven liar, and don't know shit about anything is not my fault.

I remain correct, you remain in the wrong, and made yourself look particularly stupid by advertising it.

Then, what else would anyone expect from a troll?

I win, yet again. You lose to me, as you always have. You just don't measure up. I'm surprised Putin still pays you.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 9:21 AM

It's cool. You goons will all be gone soon.

One way or another.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:08 AM

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Of course I'm right. I always am, and if I say it, you know I can back it up. You should know that by now.

http://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

What has not been reported widely in the media, however, is the fact that the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) unit that is coordinating the “crowd control” effort — an agency called the Federal Protective Service (FPS) — is composed largely of contract security personnel. Those contractors are being furnished to FPS by major private-sector security companies like Blackwater corporate descendant Triple Canopy as well as dozens of other private security firms.

I suggest you don't click onto reavers link. It's a mailing address. So reaver, what's the point? I don't see any link to what you claim being reported on.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:11 AM

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:13 AM

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I suggest you don't click onto reavers link. It's a mailing address. So reaver, what's the point? I don't see any link to what you claim being reported on.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.

-> The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors
Congress needs to shine a light on the use of private security firms, including ‘Blackwater’ legacy companies, in Trump’s response to ongoing civil rights protests

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:26 AM

‘dissonance between campaign rhetoric and personal behavior’ Yep, Trumps campaign in spades. Trumps supporters in spades.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:35 AM

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.

This shortened link will work when fireflyfans.net won't work properly:
https://bit.ly/302QoL0

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:48 AM

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Originally posted by THG:

I suggest you don't click onto reavers link. It's a mailing address. So reaver, what's the point? I don't see any link to what you claim being reported on.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.

-> The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors
Congress needs to shine a light on the use of private security firms, including ‘Blackwater’ legacy companies, in Trump’s response to ongoing civil rights protests

Nope, your claim remains bogus until you present the link to a reliable source. An initial search turned up nothing and I’m not going to search further. Something like that would definitely be news and it isn’t showing up there.

As for this, I’m great attitude you’ve recently started displaying. It’s concerning in a sense that if you actually believe it, you seal your fate here and are labeled a narcissist. Something you may find concerning is that Jack does the same thing.

This invites me to ask. Do you mirror Jacks extreme thinking and behaviors? I hope not. I believe we share the desire for a fairer and more prosperous America for everyone.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:54 AM

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Monday, July 27, 2020 10:54 AM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by THG:

I suggest you don't click onto reavers link. It's a mailing address. So reaver, what's the point? I don't see any link to what you claim being reported on.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.

-> The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors
Congress needs to shine a light on the use of private security firms, including ‘Blackwater’ legacy companies, in Trump’s response to ongoing civil rights protests

Nope, your claim remains bogus until you present the link to a reliable source. An initial search turned up nothing and I’m not going to search further. Something like that would definitely be news and it isn’t showing up there.

As for this, I’m great attitude you’ve recently started displaying. It’s concerning in a sense that if you actually believe it, you seal your fate here and are labeled a narcissist. Something you may find concerning is that Jack does the same thing.

This invites me to ask. Do you mirror Jacks extreme thinking and behaviors? I hope not. I believe we share the desire for a fairer and more prosperous America for everyone.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

I posted the title of the article itself. Not my fault this ancient forum can't link to it.

You'll just need something more modern than this.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by THG:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
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Originally posted by THG:

I suggest you don't click onto reavers link. It's a mailing address. So reaver, what's the point? I don't see any link to what you claim being reported on.

T

Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.

-> The Lead Federal Agency Responding to Protesters in Portland Employs Thousands of Private Contractors
Congress needs to shine a light on the use of private security firms, including ‘Blackwater’ legacy companies, in Trump’s response to ongoing civil rights protests

Nope, your claim remains bogus until you present the link to a reliable source. An initial search turned up nothing and I’m not going to search further. Something like that would definitely be news and it isn’t showing up there.

As for this, I’m great attitude you’ve recently started displaying. It’s concerning in a sense that if you actually believe it, you seal your fate here and are labeled a narcissist. Something you may find concerning is that Jack does the same thing.

This invites me to ask. Do you mirror Jacks extreme thinking and behaviors? I hope not. I believe we share the desire for a fairer and more prosperous America for everyone.

T

I posted the title of the article itself. Not my fault this ancient forum can't link to it.

You'll just need something more modern than this.

Try again. I'm assuming you can read. Your link includes @ in it. Not something you see in links to articles. Surly you can find a proper link to a topic being widely reported on? Blaming the error on this site is a bit off don’t you think?

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by reaverfan:
Something happened to the link. It went straight to it when I linked it before.

https://medium.com/@wkc6428/the-lead-federal-agency-responding-to-protesters-in-portland-employs-thousands-of-private-db137349f8b0

Still can't get there from here. Anyway, you can look it up yourself and confess, as everyone here must, that I'm indeed very much right, yet again.
This shortened link will work when fireflyfans.net won't work properly:
https://bit.ly/302QoL0

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

Thanks second this gets it done. So far, I have yet to see a connection between blackwater and Portland. Did you see one? It looks as though those deployed may include contract officers who aren't law-enforcement certified.

As it stands, I think only federal agents have been deployed to Portland. As I've glanced at the reporting, I didn't notice any lawsuits regarding the use of contract officers who aren't law-enforcement certified.

So far, this would mean any posting of blackwater being deployed to Portland, as of now, unverified. It does appear the complaint of contract officers who aren't law-enforcement certified may ring true when all the evidence is reviewd.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 12:06 PM

I'll give you a little tip, Ted.

Don't go looking for Blackwater. They don't go by that name anymore.

You all should also keep in mind that some of the genius Democrat leaders of these cities have come out and said that the police should be defunded and that money should instead be spent on private security firms.

This is a very, very bad idea. You don't want heavily armed private security companies running the streets no matter what level of government is funding them. It's like a Dick Cheney wet dream.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Monday, July 27, 2020 12:08 PM

Shoo troll, your ignorance is polluting the thread.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 1:35 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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THGR: This invites me to ask. Do you mirror Jacks extreme thinking and behaviors? I hope not. I believe we [THGR + REAVERBOT] share the desire for a fairer and more prosperous America for everyone.

Here's a hint, THG, REAVERBOT wants America to be destroyed.

There are people on the board who want to see a fairer and more properous America for everyone: YOU. SIX. KIKI. JO357. JSF. Probably CC. Possibly WISHY. We may disagree passionately on how to get there, but we have the same goal in mind

But there are some people I would exclude from that list: SECOND has flat out said he hates Americans, he is so consumed by hate he can't think beyond that. And REAVERBOT wants America ... and Americans... to be destroyed.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 1:42 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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SIX: You all should also keep in mind that some of the genius Democrat leaders of these cities have come out and said that the police should be defunded and that money should instead be spent on private security firms.

This [using contractors for policing ... or crowd control in riot situations] is a very, very bad idea. You don't want heavily armed private security companies running the streets no matter what level of government is funding them. It's like a Dick Cheney wet dream.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Agreed. It's bad enough that we use contractors/ mercs on foreign soil, because they're not bound by either civilian or military (martial) law. It would be worse if they were used here.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 1:52 PM

Your funny comrade SIG. And yes, very stupid for conning yourself into believing the posters aren't on to you.

T

Stupid people don't know they're stupid, and they certainly don't realize how obvious it is to others.

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Monday, July 27, 2020 1:57 PM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.

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America's Major Cities Are Being Turned Into War Zones, And It's Not Going To End In November

Michael Snyder via TheMostImportantNews.com,

The civil unrest that we witnessed all across America this weekend was extremely alarming. For a few weeks, it seemed like the chaos that erupted in the immediate aftermath of the tragic death of George Floyd was subsiding, but in recent days there has been a dramatic resurgence. Within the last 48 hours, there have been eruptions of violence in major cities such as Seattle, Portland, Atlanta, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland, Louisville, Austin and Richmond. At this point we have seen sustained protests and rioting for nearly two months straight, and it looks like the chaos isn’t going to disappear any time soon.

Over the past few weeks, a few people have written me emails suggesting that the civil unrest will disappear if Joe Biden wins the election in November.

But I don’t believe that this is true. Virtually all of the rioting is happening in cities that are controlled by Democrats, and the leftist politicians that run those cities do not have any control over the Marxist protesters at all.

For example, just look at what has been happening in Seattle and Portland. The politicians that run those cities are radical Democrats, and yet those radical Democrats have been completely and utterly unable to end the violence. The following comes from the Daily Mail…

The streets of Seattle turned violent Saturday when protesters set fire to a youth detention center and a police precinct. Other protesters threw rocks, bottles, fireworks and other explosives at cops, with the unrest leading local authorities to declare protests had turned into ‘riots that afternoon’.

Portland geared up for its 59th night of unrest Saturday with swathes of demonstrators marching from the federal building to the Portland Marriott where they believe federal officers are staying, in the wake of a violent night Friday that ended with at least one person stabbed.

To me, it is absolutely amazing that Portland has had 59 days of protests in a row.

One man that actually lives in downtown Portland says that his neighborhood has essentially been turned into “a war zone”…

Gabriel Johnson has lived in the Essex House Apartments in downtown Portland for seven years. He has loved it — until now.

“I compare it to a war zone and some people will take that and say he must be exaggerating but no,” said Johnson.

Johnson said he is kept awake by the nightly demonstrations taking place just two blocks from his home. The sounds of fireworks and flash bangs, he said, are overwhelming. The tear gas is bad, too.

And Johnson certainly knows what a “war zone” is like, because he is actually a military veteran.

Elsewhere, two very heavily armed militia groups nearly came face to face in Louisville, Kentucky this weekend …

More than 300 members of the Atlanta-based Black militia NFAC, or “Not ******* Around Coalition” came to Louisville demanding justice for 26-year-old Breonna Taylor, an ER technician who was fatally shot by officers in March.

The group came close to 50 far-right “Three Percenter” militia members, who were also heavily armed. Police kept the sides apart and tensions eventually dissipated.

My threshold for the shit hitting the fan is when guns come out and people start shooting. We came very close to that.

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If just one person had gotten an itchy trigger finger, that situation could have gotten out of control very rapidly.

But there was one unfortunate incident when a member of the NFAC accidentally had a gun discharge…

Police confirmed three members of the NFAC were struck by gunfire when someone’s gun discharged while participating in a demonstration Saturday. All three victims went to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.

Meanwhile, things got really crazy down in Atlanta.

Rioters attacked the local ICE and DHS field office, and they came close to setting it on fire…

Atlanta also endured a night of unrest across Saturday evening into the early hours of Sunday as protesters took aim at the city’s ICE and DHS field office, smashing windows and attempting to set fire to the building.

Reports suggest that nobody was inside the building at the time, however extensive damage was caused to the front of the facility.

Agents were seen patrolling the grounds early Sunday, as FBI officers snapped pictures of the shattered windows and what appeared to be scorch marks left from fireworks on the office’s walls.

It is important to understand that these rioters are very serious about their goals, and they aren’t going to be happy with just a few half-hearted “reforms”. For many of them, nothing short of the overthrow of the entire system will suffice.

And as we draw closer to the November election, anything and anyone associated with President Trump will be a potential target. Trump supporter Bernie Trammell probably never imagined that his support of Trump would get him gunned down in front of his own business, but that is precisely what just happened…

Bernell Trammell, a Black Donald Trump supporter, was reportedly shot and killed in Milwaukee on Thursday (July 23). According to Fox 6, the 60-year-old was gunned down during a drive-by shooting in the neighborhood where he was known for displaying signs reading “Vote Trump 2020” and recited Bible verses.

Trammell was discovered dead in front of his business. A makeshift memorial containing flowers and candles has been set up on the sidewalk where Trammell died.

I guess only SOME black lives matter. BLM/Antifa protesters probably thoght of him as a race traitor.

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One could probably imagine something like this happening in Seattle, Portland or Los Angeles.

But Milwaukee?

It is so sad to watch our major cities being torn apart, but a lot of Democrats out there seem to think that all of this chaos is just temporary and that it will come to an end once Trump is removed from office.

Unfortunately, the truth is that these protests were never primarily about Trump. Yes, the protesters hate Trump, but they aren’t exactly fans of Joe Biden and other moderate Democrats either. As Susan Duclos has pointed out, if Joe Biden and the Democratic Party actually believe that they will be able to control these protesters if they win in November they are being extremely delusional…

This is a political calculation on the part of the liberal media and democrat politicians. Support the violent protesters, cause as much chaos and mayhem as possible before the 2020 presidential election, hoping that Trump will be blamed and their candidate, Joe Biden, will win.

The problem, for them, is even if it works there is no way they control the monster they created and if they think they can, they are more delusional than originally thought.

I have been warning that this civil unrest was coming for a very long time, and it is eventually going to get much, much worse no matter who wins in November.

If you currently live in the heart of one of our major cities, please do not be fooled into thinking that these protests are just temporary and that things will eventually go back to normal.

These protesters have a fervor that is almost [ALMOST?] on a religious level, and they are entirely convinced of the righteousness of their cause. They are never going to give up, and they are willing to do whatever it takes to achieve their goals.

Whatever their goals are.

I'm not hearing any concrete "goals". What I'm hearing is an ever-shifting set of nonsensical demands, anything from "defund the police" to "give us a hundred X hundred mile territory so we can set up a black nation for blacks only" to... no dmeands at all. Just rioting.

Welcome to the color revolution!

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