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Another white male Chump supporting terrorist?

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Saturday, August 3, 2019 5:09 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry




Go ahead 6ix, tell everyone not to show his face or name so you can play pretend about who the is the REAL threat in this country.

Go ahead Sig, tell everyone this isn't about race or political affiliations so you can push your agenda one more time. Couple dozen more times you should start to feel nauseous just typing it.








https://www.thedailybeast.com/el-paso-police-respond-to-active-shootin
g-at-cielo-vista-mall


The shooting started around 11 a.m. A woman named Karina, who declined to give her last name, said she was driving in the parking lot with her 7-year-old daughter when she saw a white man in his twenties in front of the store’s main entrance, dressed in all black and carrying a long rifle

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 6:19 PM

BRENDA


I heard about this earlier today when I was out. I am horrified and every other adjective you can add to that.

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:54 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Yeah I think you might be correct and sometimes I'm not so sure on the politik here but with your back and forth with people politically you seem to dislike the Male sex and Whites and Conservatives/Libertarians so what happens if he's all 3, do you go boom! nuclear!? have your usual drama out with 6ix while he calls you a crazy feminist, when these sad sick events happen its like watching a soap opera on re-run

Serial killers a lot of them tend to be White also, which is an excuse for racial profiling, its not just to catch some Mexican hoping the border and doing crime, or racial profile is not just about a Black African American mugging someone, peoples after a while fall into these little statistics, become this little boxes on a much larger board?

In the sick deadpool statistic, a crazy Yellow Asian dude had the highest death at Virginia Tech shooting, this sick murderous dead number was passed by Arab moslem Afghan guy named Omar Mateen, I think the moslem he was actually liberal maybe a confused closet gay, his father was maybe a Democrat supporter went to a rally and involved in politics both in Afghanistan media and the US... there was also the 2015 San Bernardino attack around this time, a Cop chase and all shootings and drama broadcast across scanners, a woman was involved here, a crazy jihad couple. I remember your disappointment Wishimay when it turned out to be islamist Arabs and one of them was female. this crazy sick white dude Paddock came along and murders a huge, massive number of people in the Las Vegas shooting the story was strange he had no job since the 1980s but had lots and lots of money, I guess some crazy White folks are able to murder at high levels and good at death and destruction.

Of course every month, every weekend you have Black on Black Crimes, African Americans killing each other, Mexican gangs shooting each other up but for some reason these shootings don't make the news like other shootings do.

It would be interesting to see how the corporate media are told to spin each and every story. Your not allowed call it terrorism until you record them saying al lah hu ackbar at least 2 or 3 times ... btw I think Paddock was a terrorist or did carry out an act of murder and terrorism but for some reason the media didnt say.

I'm not normally a fan of Michael Moore but sometimes I think maybe he has some kind of point, not sure what is driving this mass murder mindset, the numbers keep going up its like they are trying to out-do the last big murder spree

This guy?

A website Heavy is reporting it

Patrick Crusius, he was on linked in had 3 friends on facebook, https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/patrick-crusius/
Cops and Doctors are asking folks to donate blood

Maybe you are correct Wishi, a White guy and Radical right-wing terrorism

anyways I guess a lot of different individuals and groups have done murder in America but I can't remember the last time a Native American Aboriginal Indian American went on a mass blood bath of murder despite the monster image demonization in the media and movies the last Century.

I'm not really into my guns, maybe someone else here will know the firearms reported used but the weapon I'm seeing reported used is not an ordinary hunting rifle but the common war zone weapon the AK-47-style assault rifle or Kalashnikova, it is a rival weapon to the AR-15 or M16 the AK47 was used by Soviets and is still used by Russians, East Germany, East European armies, N.Africa, Pakistan, Vietnam and armies all across the Middle East, it shoots a very large round, other guns might shoot a smaller round maybe 22 caliber or 5.6mm or 22 9 mm caliber but the AK47 round 7.62 × 39 mm meaning the bullet has massive power and would probably kill a big Bear an Elephant you may not even have a chance to survive even in body armor and in war zones it is sometimes known to even penetrate armored trucks and even cut holes in tanks, the rifle it can spray like a machine gun 40 round per min, as a weapon it can kill from hundreds of yards away or even Bursts of 100 per min as a weapon it can be a weapon of mass murder even against people defending themselves, compared to ships, missiles, swords, bombs, knives, tanks as a weapon the AK47 it has probably killed far more people on the history of this Earth than any other weapon of war.



Politics? This could be White and Rightwing

twitter asks, did he target minorities?
https://twitter.com/hashtag/PatrickCrusius
a Wallmart vid may be going viral

this thread is active with news updates
Quote:

TX - 20 killed 24 injured at Walmart at Cielo Vista, El Paso, 3 AUG 2019 * ARREST *
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/threads/tx-20-killed-24-injured-at-w
almart-at-cielo-vista-el-paso-3-aug-2019-arrest.464702
/
Multiple fatalities reported in shooting at Walmart in El Paso, Texas
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2500917-Multiple-fatalities-repor
ted-in-shooting-at-Walmart-in-El-Paso-Texas/page2




Right now I see reports of Another shooting
a separate shooting
Ohio?

This horrible event
NBC, Fox and CBSLocal also have some kind of report with his name, and https://www.thedailybeast.com/patrick-crusius-idd-as-suspected-el-paso
-walmart-shooter
, https://www.newsweek.com/who-el-paso-shooter-1452468 seems the mass murdering coward was taken alive

Anyways just going on early reports because there will be a lot of specualtion

RIP to all killed, I hope the family of those find a way to heal and a speedy recovery to all injured.

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:44 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by WISHIMAY:

Go ahead 6ix, tell everyone not to show his face or name so you can play pretend about who the is the REAL threat in this country.



Please. Tell us who is the real threat in this country.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 8:51 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:08 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
...and this is the push back.




Did you really just try to justify this idiot shooting 50 people in a Wal-mart ON THE LEFT??? It's okay to shoot people because someone has blamed someone you support of something??

He's a Trumpanzee! This ain't Antifa...THIS IS ONE OF YOURS. Like 90 percent of these have been.

A manifesto purportedly written by Crusius, perhaps even in the hours before the shooting attack that according to one report left at least 15 people dead, was left behind. Pages of the manifesto included anti-immigrant rhetoric with the author going into depth on why he is “against race mixing,” supports the idea to “send them back” and offering a prediction of “genocide.”






Putin IS the new Hitler. Get ready to lock and load!

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:16 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:


Please. Tell us who is the real threat in this country.



White male Chump supporters are the biggest threat to public safety. I think I'd much rather see them in cages than Mexicans. Mexicans are just annoying, but they don't come to this country and take out dozens of people in one go.

Daily Mail has someone who says there might have been 4 of them...

"She said she saw four men, dressed in black, wearing shirts, moved together firing guns indiscriminately."

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 10:46 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Meh... whatever.

I'm not related to the dude. I don't know him. The only people who would liken him to me are sexist and racist people.

Kicking ass where I'm sitting. Feel free to wallow in bad news and stuff you have no control over.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Saturday, August 3, 2019 11:22 PM

BRENDA


Last I heard on American news it was 20 dead and only 1 shooter in custody.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:30 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Shakes head.

I have an idea why it's white males. In this current pecking order we call a society, only white males (on average) don't expect to be stepped on, and when they feel like they have been, they're outraged! I'd have to think about whether or not this holds true in general.

One white male I know chalks it up to testosterone and evolution. Bigger more aggressive males have a short-term evolutionary advantage, which skews the selection towards size and aggression. I believe he also thinks the natural role of males within a group is to defend the group against other groups, heroically if necessary. (There are negative mitigating feedback loops, for example, aggressive males that corner too much food can cause infants and females to starve, and that's an evolutionary oops. But there's a broad range where the problems caused by large aggressive males are survivable on a species level.)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 2:26 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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That might have been true 10 or 20 years ago.

I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it. We are, after all, the most hated class in the world right now... (At least according to the media. Not according to studies done on dating apps).

I'm sure the rich ones aren't feeling it much, but I can't speak to that.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 2:29 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.

Another Nazi-loving trumptard justifies terrorism.

Hey, Trump loves it too. He's the world's leading stochastic terrorist.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 2:30 AM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That might have been true 10 or 20 years ago.

I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it. We are, after all, the most hated class in the world right now... (At least according to the media. Not according to studies done on dating apps).

I'm sure the rich ones aren't feeling it much, but I can't speak to that.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

And of course, another known white racist also justifies horrific terrorism from a Trump-loving Nazi.

Sieg heil, y'all!

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 2:44 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
That might have been true 10 or 20 years ago.

I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it. We are, after all, the most hated class in the world right now... (At least according to the media. Not according to studies done on dating apps).

I'm sure the rich ones aren't feeling it much, but I can't speak to that.



Do Right, Be Right. :)

I'll think about that. Not being a young, white male, I can't speak to the general experience.

But myths may take a long time to die, even when they're not matched by reality - if you work hard and smart, you're sure to get somewhere good. Think ... autoworkers, iron workers, skilled trades ... or even financialism. And if that's not how it goes, you've been cheated.

Growing up, that wasn't a guarantee women or people of color ever thought they had.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 3:49 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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I was growing up when that house of cards was starting to fall down. I know I probably benefited from it in my late teens and early 20's. But I could probably attribute that just as much to a much better economy and a lot more worthwhile jobs out there in the late 90's and early 2000's.

There isn't much room in the job marketplace for rewarding based off of merit no matter what sex you are or what the color of your skin is in 2019.

Unions, sadly, don't count. I'd love to support them, but it's not what you know but who you know if you are going to get in one of them. It only makes sense. There is an extremely finite amount of Union jobs to go around. It's a small fraction of the total jobs out there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:19 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.


It's not just the Left that is damaging and dangerous. It's ALL politicians and ALL media pundit hypesters and their big stupid mouths. They're all stoking fear and hatred based on economic classes, races, religion, and traditional cultural beliefs while they pursue their own selfish political and ideological agendas. Everybody at some point is being attacked for just being who they are. This victimization mindset can and will trigger retaliation and anti-social behavior among the unstable segments of the population. This weekend's 2 mass shootings is just the beginning of what promises to be a very violent run up to the 2020 election. I wish they'd ALL just STFU for 5 minutes.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:46 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I was growing up when that house of cards was starting to fall down. I know I probably benefited from it in my late teens and early 20's. But I could probably attribute that just as much to a much better economy and a lot more worthwhile jobs out there in the late 90's and early 2000's.

There isn't much room in the job marketplace for rewarding based off of merit no matter what sex you are or what the color of your skin is in 2019.

Unions, sadly, don't count. I'd love to support them, but it's not what you know but who you know if you are going to get in one of them. It only makes sense. There is an extremely finite amount of Union jobs to go around. It's a small fraction of the total jobs out there.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

Union membership in the US keeps on falling, like almost everywhere else in the World
https://qz.com/1542019/

Just 6.4% of workers in the private sector are unionized, compared with 16.8% in 1983. On the other hand, government employee unions, like those for teachers and postal workers, have remained fairly strong, with a small decline from about 37% of the workforce in 1983 to 34% in 2018.

The overall decline of union membership is partly the result of the changing composition of jobs in the US. Healthcare, restaurant, and hospitality jobs are among the fastest growing and, historically, these industries that have not had high unionization rates. By contrast, manufacturing, a much more organized sector, has been losing jobs over the past few decades.

Another contributor to unions’ reduced clout has been laws to make it more difficult to unionize, including “right-to-work” legislation passed in about half of US states. These laws stipulate that people who work in unionized workplaces do not have to join the union.

The US is not alone in seeing a fall in union membership. Across the rich world, nearly every country’s share of the unionized workers has declined, according to data from the OECD. The group notes that this is mostly the result of the shrinking manufacturing and public sectors, and the rise of contract-based jobs.

Recent economic research suggests the decline of unions is one of main reasons income inequality has risen over the past several decades. A 2018 study by economists at Princeton and Columbia found that since the 1930s, unionized workers have made about 15-20% more than similarly educated workers. Unions are able to gain this extra compensation by exerting collective power for workers who individually have little bargaining power.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:19 AM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.

Is this more push back against the unstoppable Left and their feeble attempts to take away Second Amendment Rights to carry guns?
"The Second Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery"
https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-pre
serve-slavery
/

Ten people, including suspected assailant, killed in Ohio shooting
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-shooting-ohio/ten-people-including-susp
ected-assailant-killed-in-ohio-shooting-idUSKCN1UU078


A total of 10 people were killed, including the assailant. Twenty-six others were injured and taken to hospitals across the area, Mayor Nan Whaley told reporters, though the extent of their injuries was not known.

She said the suspect was wearing body armor and was armed with a high-capacity rifle with multiple ammunition magazines.

FBI agents were assisting in the investigation.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:19 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


So… anyone a campaign volunteer for a GOP Senator ? Cause, I don't recall all the fuss over Bernie's ballfield assassin , or those legions of folks who beat, assault conservatives on the orders of Maxine Waters, Barack Obama, and the gaggle of self obsessed divas from Hollywood who repeatedly talk of punching ( and worse ) our President.

Funny how the contrived outrage only goes one way, huh ?

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:29 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
So… anyone a campaign volunteer for a GOP Senator ? Cause, I don't recall all the fuss over Bernie's ballfield assassin , or those legions of folks who beat, assault conservatives on the orders of Maxine Waters, Barack Obama, and the gaggle of self obsessed divas from Hollywood who repeatedly talk of punching ( and worse ) our President.

Funny how the contrived outrage only goes one way, huh ?

Huh, is right. You can't take a little push back without freaking out, AURaptor? Are you gonna shoot ten Libtards to save yourself, America, and the Second Amendment from liberal oppression -- making you their slave?

"The Second Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery"
https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-pre
serve-slavery
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 9:37 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it.



Definitely the ones that wallow in self pity or are just compete pussies. F@cksake.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 9:42 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.


It's not just the Left that is damaging and dangerous. It's ALL politicians and ALL media pundit hypesters and their big stupid mouths. They're all stoking fear and hatred based on economic classes, races, religion, and traditional cultural beliefs while they pursue their own selfish political and ideological agendas. Everybody at some point is being attacked for just being who they are. This victimization mindset can and will trigger retaliation and anti-social behavior among the unstable segments of the population. This weekend's 2 mass shootings is just the beginning of what promises to be a very violent run up to the 2020 election. I wish they'd ALL just STFU for 5 minutes.



Fuckin’ a

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 9:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by second:

]Huh, is right. You can't take a little push back without freaking out, AURaptor? Are you gonna shoot ten Libtards to save yourself, America, and the Second Amendment from liberal oppression -- making you their slave?



Oh, is that the new angle you zealots are gonna push now ? Rewrite history as a basis to do away w/ the 2nd Amendment and why not, the entire constitution itself?

To date, the ones who have been doing the pushing are the Left, and it's getting a bit tiresome. Anyone who writes a manifesto isn't playing w/ a full deck. Betting he's on ADD or ADHD drugs, of some sort, or has been, like every other mass shooter has been.


But ignore BIG PHARMA, and just go after the rights of law abiding citizens. Because that always ends up aces for everyone.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:

]Huh, is right. You can't take a little push back without freaking out, AURaptor? Are you gonna shoot ten Libtards to save yourself, America, and the Second Amendment from liberal oppression -- making you their slave?



Oh, is that the new angle you zealots are gonna push now ? Rewrite history as a basis to do away w/ the 2nd Amendment and why not, the entire constitution itself?

To date, the ones who have been doing the pushing are the Left, and it's getting a bit tiresome. Anyone who writes a manifesto isn't playing w/ a full deck. Betting he's on ADD or ADHD drugs, of some sort, or has been, like every other mass shooter has been.


But ignore BIG PHARMA, and just go after the rights of law abiding citizens. Because that always ends up aces for everyone.

Let me quote you from the records of Virginia, when they discussed ratifying the Second Amendment. It was very clear that they needed the Amendment to keep the Northerners, who opposed slavery, from disarming the slave patrols in Virginia. Slavery is now gone, but the Second Amendment has been redefined/reinterpreted to justify rifles to keep the shoppers at the local Mall from revolting.

https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-pre
serve-slavery
/

Southern legislators and plantation owners lived not just in fear of their own slaves rebelling, but also in fear that their slaves could be emancipated through military service.

At the ratifying convention in Virginia in 1788, Patrick Henry laid it out:

“Let me here call your attention to that part [Article 1, Section 8 of the proposed Constitution] which gives the Congress power to provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States….

“By this, sir, you see that their control over our last and best defence is unlimited. If they neglect or refuse to discipline or arm our militia, they will be useless: the states can do neither … this power being exclusively given to Congress. The power of appointing officers over men not disciplined or armed is ridiculous; so that this pretended little remains of power left to the states may, at the pleasure of Congress, be rendered nugatory.”

George Mason expressed a similar fear:

“The militia may be here destroyed by that method which has been practised in other parts of the world before; that is, by rendering them useless, by disarming them. Under various pretences, Congress may neglect to provide for arming and disciplining the militia; and the state governments cannot do it, for Congress has an exclusive right to arm them [under this proposed Constitution]…. “

Henry then bluntly laid it out:

“If the country be invaded, a state may go to war, but cannot suppress [slave] insurrections [under this new Constitution]. If there should happen an insurrection of slaves, the country cannot be said to be invaded. They cannot, therefore, suppress it without the interposition of Congress…. Congress, and Congress only [under this new Constitution], can call forth the militia.”

And why was that such a concern for Patrick Henry?

“In this state,” he said, “there are two hundred and thirty-six thousand blacks, and there are many in several other states. But there are few or none in the Northern States…. May Congress not say, that every black man must fight? Did we not see a little of this last war? We were not so hard pushed as to make emancipation general; but acts of Assembly passed that every slave who would go to the army should be free.”

Patrick Henry was also convinced that the power over the various state militias given the federal government in the new Constitution could be used to strip the slave states of their slave-patrol militias. He knew the majority attitude in the North opposed slavery, and he worried they’d use the Constitution to free the South’s slaves (a process then called “Manumission”).

The abolitionists would, he was certain, use that power (and, ironically, this is pretty much what Abraham Lincoln ended up doing):

“[T]hey will search that paper [the Constitution], and see if they have power of manumission,” said Henry. “And have they not, sir? Have they not power to provide for the general defence and welfare? May they not think that these call for the abolition of slavery? May they not pronounce all slaves free, and will they not be warranted by that power?

“This is no ambiguous implication or logical deduction. The paper speaks to the point: they have the power in clear, unequivocal terms, and will clearly and certainly exercise it.”

He added: “This is a local matter, and I can see no propriety in subjecting it to Congress.”

James Madison, the “Father of the Constitution” and a slaveholder himself, basically called Patrick Henry paranoid.

“I was struck with surprise,” Madison said, “when I heard him express himself alarmed with respect to the emancipation of slaves…. There is no power to warrant it, in that paper [the Constitution]. If there be, I know it not.”

But the southern fears wouldn’t go away.

Patrick Henry even argued that southerner’s “property” (slaves) would be lost under the new US Constitution, and the resulting slave uprising would be less than peaceful or tranquil:

“In this situation,” Henry said to Madison, “I see a great deal of the property of the people of Virginia in jeopardy, and their peace and tranquility gone.”

So Madison, who had (at Jefferson’s insistence) already begun to prepare proposed amendments to the US Constitution, changed his first draft of one that addressed the militia issue to make sure it was unambiguous that the southern states could maintain their slave patrol militias.

His first draft for what became the Second Amendment had said: “The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed; a well armed, and well regulated militia being the best security of a free country [emphasis mine]: but no person religiously scrupulous of bearing arms, shall be compelled to render military service in person.”

But Henry, Mason and others wanted southern states to preserve their slave-patrol militias independent of the federal government. So Madison changed the word “country” to the word “state,” and redrafted the Second Amendment into today’s form:

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State [emphasis mine], the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”

Little did Madison realize that one day in the future weapons-manufacturing corporations, newly defined as “persons” by a Supreme Court some have called dysfunctional, would use his slave patrol militia amendment to protect their “right” to manufacture and sell assault weapons used to murder schoolchildren.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:16 AM

THG


The second amendment. Key word, amendment. It was added to the Bill of Rights to protect, The Right to Bear Arms. A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State.

It was not originally in the Constitution but instead added to the Bill of Rights to protect militia rights to carry guns while running down slaves who escaped. Because, at that time that was all a militia was needed for. That and posses. Which, are now illegal.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:42 AM

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After El Paso, We Can No Longer Ignore Trump’s Role in Inspiring Mass Shootings

A four-page manifesto authorities believe was written by Crusius and posted shortly before the El Paso attack is full of the kind of hateful rhetoric and ideas that have flourished under Trump.

The manifesto declares the imminent attack “a response to the Hispanic invasion,” accuses Democrats of “pandering to the Hispanic voting bloc,” rails against “traitors,” and condemns “race mixing” and “interracial unions.” “Yet another reason to send them back,” it says.

Sound familiar? The president of the United States — who condemned the El Paso attack on Twitter — has repeatedly referred to an “invasion” at the southern border; condemned Mexican immigrants as “rapists” and Syrian refugees as “snakes;” accused his critics of treason on at least two dozen occasions; and told four elected women of color to “go back” to the “crime infested places from which they came.” (It is worth noting that Crusius, in his alleged manifesto, claims his views “predate” and are unrelated to Trump, but then goes on to attack “fake news.”)

More at https://theintercept.com/2019/08/04/el-paso-dayton-mass-shootings-dona
ld-trump
/

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 10:48 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


I don't get all the shootings

Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
They're all stoking fear and hatred based on economic classes, races, religion, and traditional cultural beliefs while they pursue their own selfish political and ideological agendas.



So I just logged on some news sites, blogs and forums to see an update in crimes in the US

not two but FIVE, Five Mass Shootings in a 24 hr period?

the most political, the highest death toll makes the headlines, others don't even make news

What if you turned on the radio or tv and they told you there were five mass shootings in the past 24 yrs
not long ago, Obama was making Iraq more Safe and Dick Cheney boasting about the homicide rate in the middle east dropping, they invade bomb countries then spend money trying to rebuild and make the place they destroyed safe again, making iraq safer than America, they got lower statistics shootings deaths than many parts of America now?

Shootings, and Another one

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/Mass-Shooting-Near-Douglas-Park-
Playground-Police-518001731.html


Seven people were wounded in a shooting Sunday as they gathered in Douglas Park on the West Side.About 1:20 a.m., they were standing in the park in the 2900 block of West Roosevelt Road when someone opened fire from a black Camaro, Chicago police said.
A 21-year-old man was hit in the groin and taken to Mount Sinai Hospital in critical condition, police said. A woman, 25, was struck in the arm, leg and taken to the same hospital where her condition was stabilized
Another woman, 22, was also hit and taken to Mount Sinai, police said. Her condition was stabilized.
A 20-year-old man and a woman, 19, were taken to Stroger Hospital, police said. The man was hit in the right side of the body and the woman was struck in the leg. Their conditions were stabilized.
Two men, 23 and 21, took themselves to Mount Sinai with gunshot wounds, police said.
People were seen walking in the park just past the perimeter of the crime scene tape with their phone lights activated looking for things they left behind as they ran from the bullets.


There are so many they almost don't even make their local news


Should fireflyfans just have one thread for the mass shootings / gun control debates?

but yes Wishi this one seems to be a White Rightwing Extremist

Mass shootings normal for certain cities in the US. Normally related to gang/drug problems. Areas the news media does not care about?

Does the media encourage it, is the new guy trying to get a higher death toll than the last shooting, these reports, the style of reporting does it encourage copycats to pitch in?

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Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Should fireflyfans just have one thread for the mass shootings / gun control debates?

2019 List of mass shootings in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_Sta
tes_in_2019


As of August 4th, 2019, 251 mass shootings have occurred in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article, resulting in 1,032 people being shot. Of those people, 281 have died. This averages out to 1.2 shootings per day.

2018 List of mass shootings in the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_Sta
tes_in_2018


323 mass shootings occurred in 2018 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article, resulting in 1,661 people being shot. Of those people, 387 people have died.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:06 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it.



Definitely the ones that wallow in self pity or are just compete pussies. F@cksake.



I'm just being pragmatic, dipshit.

My balls have more balls than you do, pussy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:20 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I'm just being pragmatic, dipshit.

My balls have more balls than you do, pussy.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

No, you are not pragmatic or else you be in the huge group of wealthy Americans.

The US has more millionaires than Greece has people

For the 10th straight year, the number of rich folks has gone up in the United States — with more people of means here than the total populations of Greece or Portugal.

A new study has found that in 2018, there were 11.8 million households in the United States with a net worth of more than $1 million. According to the Market Insights Report by the Chicago-based research firm Spectrem, there were 250,000 newly minted millionaires just last year.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/14/the-us-has-more-millionaires-than-greece
-has-people
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Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:37 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it.


What white males do you hang around with? I don't know any that have "resigned themselves" to anything. You watch too much libtard tv.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 11:41 AM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Maybe if Leftist political leaders and Hollywood elites would stop being such hypocrites and going after law abiding citizens as the cause of these clearly criminal acts...

nvrmind… there's no way the Left will stop, and this is the push back.

Sucks.


It's not just the Left that is damaging and dangerous. It's ALL politicians and ALL media pundit hypesters and their big stupid mouths. They're all stoking fear and hatred based on economic classes, races, religion, and traditional cultural beliefs while they pursue their own selfish political and ideological agendas. Everybody at some point is being attacked for just being who they are. This victimization mindset can and will trigger retaliation and anti-social behavior among the unstable segments of the population. This weekend's 2 mass shootings is just the beginning of what promises to be a very violent run up to the 2020 election. I wish they'd ALL just STFU for 5 minutes.



Fuckin’ a


Damn straight.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 12:06 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno, the statements of some people here ...

WISHY, who would exterminate a million (or a billion!) people for her cause (whatever that is)
SECOND, who thinks murder and political assassination are perfectly fine actions
REAVERBOT, who believes that any violence against anyone that he PERCEIVES to be an "enemy" is justified


... read an awful lot like the manifestos of some of the crazed people who go on to shoot a bunch a strangers out of an excess of emotion. Maybe dialing down the hate-filled rhetoric should start here. How about: No more promotion of violence? Would that be useful, do ya think?



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:32 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My balls have more balls than you do, pussy.




You have 4 balls?

The stupid sh@t you post.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 1:34 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, the statements of some people here ...

WISHY, who would exterminate a million (or a billion!) people for her cause (whatever that is)
SECOND, who thinks murder and political assassination are perfectly fine actions
REAVERBOT, who believes that any violence against anyone that he PERCEIVES to be an "enemy" is justified


... read an awful lot like the manifestos of some of the crazed people who go on to shoot a bunch a strangers out of an excess of emotion. Maybe dialing down the hate-filled rhetoric should start here. How about: No more promotion of violence? Would that be useful, do ya think?

Signym, what are you selling here?

Signym, are you really claiming that Trump did not say the same things the mass-murderer said?
"After El Paso, We Can No Longer Ignore Trump’s Role in Inspiring Mass Shootings"
https://theintercept.com/2019/08/04/el-paso-dayton-mass-shootings-dona
ld-trump
/

Signym, are you claiming that the Second Amendment was NOT about arming the slave patrols?
"The Second Amendment Was Ratified to Preserve Slavery"
https://truthout.org/articles/the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-pre
serve-slavery


Signym, are you claiming that District of Columbia v. Heller, which recognized an individual right to possess a firearm, was correctly decided?
"The Supreme Court’s Worst Decision of My Tenure"
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/john-paul-stevens-court-fail
ed-gun-control/587272
/

Signym, what are you selling, from Russia or wherever?

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 4:08 PM

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In the US, there are 120.5 guns per 100 people — more than twice the rate of Yemen, which has the next highest rate in the world at 52.8 guns per 100 people.

The high rate of gun ownership and the spread of white nationalism and anti-immigrant sentiment are largely blamed for fueling the unprecedented number of mass shootings in the US.

"Mass shootings in the US so far this year, mapped"
https://qz.com/1681082/


There is one quirk that consistently puzzles America’s fans and critics alike. Why, they ask, does it experience so many mass shootings?

Perhaps, some speculate, it is because American society is unusually violent. Or its racial divisions have frayed the bonds of society. Or its citizens lack proper mental care under a health care system that draws frequent derision abroad.

These explanations share one thing in common: Though seemingly sensible, all have been debunked by research on shootings elsewhere in the world. Instead, an ever-growing body of research consistently reaches the same conclusion.

The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns.

"What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer"
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-internatio
nal.html


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America’s gun homicide rate was 33 per million people in 2009, far exceeding the average among developed countries. In Canada and Britain, it was 5 per million and 0.7 per million, respectively, which also corresponds with differences in gun ownership.

Americans sometimes see this as an expression of deeper problems with crime, a notion ingrained, in part, by a series of films portraying urban gang violence in the early 1990s. But the United States is not actually more prone to crime than other developed countries, according to a landmark 1999 study by Franklin E. Zimring and Gordon Hawkins of the University of California, Berkeley.

Rather, they found, in data that has since been repeatedly confirmed, that American crime is simply more lethal. A New Yorker is just as likely to be robbed as a Londoner, for instance, but the New Yorker is 54 times more likely to be killed in the process.

They concluded that the discrepancy, like so many other anomalies of American violence, came down to guns.

More gun ownership corresponds with more gun murders across virtually every axis: among developed countries, among American states, among American towns and cities and when controlling for crime rates. And gun control legislation tends to reduce gun murders, according to a recent analysis of 130 studies from 10 countries.

This suggests that the guns themselves cause the violence.

"What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer"
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/07/world/americas/mass-shootings-us-internatio
nal.html


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Sunday, August 4, 2019 4:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, the statements of some people here ...

WISHY, who would exterminate a million (or a billion!) people for her cause (whatever that is)
SECOND, who thinks murder and political assassination are perfectly fine actions
REAVERBOT, who believes that any violence against anyone that he PERCEIVES to be an "enemy" is justified


... read an awful lot like the manifestos of some of the crazed people who go on to shoot a bunch a strangers out of an excess of emotion. Maybe dialing down the hate-filled rhetoric should start here. How about: No more promotion of violence? Would that be useful, do ya think?



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

America is an oligarchy http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=57876 .



This.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:06 PM

WHOZIT


It's Trump's fault

It's the NRA's fault

It's the GOP's fault

It's my fault

Yup, saw this coming. I think I'll spend the next few days watching "Zebra Corner" and Ryan George vids on YOUTUBE, I need to escape for a while.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by whozit:
It's Trump's fault

It's the NRA's fault

It's the GOP's fault

It's my fault

Yup, saw this coming. I think I'll spend the next few days watching "Zebra Corner" and Ryan George vids on YOUTUBE, I need to escape for a while.




Of course it's your fault man.




These are the people we're dealing with here.

And if you don't agree with their hatred and the cultural appropriation that's swallowing everything whole, then you're a Nazi. If you resign yourself to it because there really is no escaping it these days, then you're a pussy.

It's a lose lose. That's why I'm going to do my best to not bother playing the game anymore except when it's absolutely necessary.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 5:58 PM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

My balls have more balls than you do, pussy.




You have 4 balls?

The stupid sh@t you post.



It's called brain damage G

T



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Sunday, August 4, 2019 6:19 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Let's see - who started it again? That would be CC - as usual.

Here we have Jack, making a comment.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I think in 2019 most white males have become more than accustomed to being stepped on and have resigned themselves to it.

And right on cue, CEREALMUSH just HAS to fling poo.
Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Definitely the ones that wallow in self pity or are just compete pussies. F@cksake.




THANKS! CREREALMUSH, for your enlightening contributions to the topic!! /sarcasm


The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/ rinse/ spin/ repeat/ cycle they mistake for the real world.

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Was Firefly cancelled because it was too violent for you? Somebody died or got shot in every episode. "Out of Gas" -- Mal got shot in that one, but he didn't die. "Objects in Space" - Simon got shot in that one. "Safe" -- not so safe for Book got shot. Every. Episode. Was. Violent. 6ix and Signym can't accept that the violence from the show stains bloody red the fireflyfans.net Community.
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Yanno, the statements of some people here ...

WISHY, who would exterminate a million (or a billion!) people for her cause (whatever that is)
SECOND, who thinks murder and political assassination are perfectly fine actions
REAVERBOT, who believes that any violence against anyone that he PERCEIVES to be an "enemy" is justified


... read an awful lot like the manifestos of some of the crazed people who go on to shoot a bunch a strangers out of an excess of emotion. Maybe dialing down the hate-filled rhetoric should start here. How about: No more promotion of violence? Would that be useful, do ya think?



-----------
Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake


"The messy American environment, where most people don't agree, is perfect for people like me. I CAN DO AS I PLEASE." - SECOND

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This.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 6:52 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Was Firefly cancelled because it was too violent for you? Somebody died or got shot in every episode. "Out of Gas" -- Mal got shot in that one, but he didn't die. "Objects in Space" - Simon got shot in that one. "Safe" -- not so safe for Book got shot. Every. Episode. Was. Violent. 6ix and Signym can't accept that the violence from the show stains bloody red the fireflyfans.net Community.

OBVIOUSLY at the very least you're having a glitch distinguishing between reality and fiction.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:07 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

[/i]


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Was Firefly cancelled because it was too violent for you? Somebody died or got shot in every episode. "Out of Gas" -- Mal got shot in that one, but he didn't die. "Objects in Space" - Simon got shot in that one. "Safe" -- not so safe for Book got shot. Every. Episode. Was. Violent. 6ix and Signym can't accept that the violence from the show stains bloody red the fireflyfans.net Community.

OBVIOUSLY at the very least you're having a glitch distinguishing between reality and fiction.


And if democrats don't do anything different, how are they any better?



This.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

OBVIOUSLY at the very least you're having a glitch distinguishing between reality and fiction.

The Republican Party is having a glitch for 15 years:

In Feb. 2019, the US House of Representatives passed sweeping gun-control legislation.

The Senate, where Republicans maintain a majority, never bothered to advance or even debate the potential new regulations.

And now they are all on vacation.

The last time the federal government managed to pass laws that limit the spread and use of guns in the United States was 25 years ago. Bill Clinton was president.

That law was known as the Federal Assault Weapons Ban, and it was temporary. Written into the legislation was an expiration date of 10 years. But for that decade, the law essentially banned the manufacture, sale, and possession of some military-style assault weapons, including the AR-15. A recent study found that the ban reduced the number of mass shootings during the decade it existed.

After the ban expired in 2004, there were several attempts to bring it back.

Obama tried to renew the ban in 2013 after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings, where a gunman used an AR-15 to massacre 26 people.

But the Republicans in the Senate again stood in the way, voting not to renew.

https://qz.com/1681114/

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 7:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


1. My 600 lb life. (TV show)
2. Donald Trump.
3. Texas Republicans.
4. Ruining people's lives because of their political beliefs.
5. Talking about how much money he has
6. Republicans in general
7. Conservatives

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:

6. Republicans in general
6. Republicans in general
6. Republicans in general




FIFY
I've helpfully summarized your post so other people can get the gist without having to do any tedious reading.

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Sunday, August 4, 2019 8:10 PM

JONGSSTRAW


Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:
1. My 600 lb life. (TV show)
2. Donald Trump.
3. Texas Republicans.
4. Ruining people's lives because of their political beliefs.
5. Talking about how much money he has
6. Republicans in general
7. Conservatives

Quote:

Originally posted by SECOND:

6. Republicans in general
6. Republicans in general
6. Republicans in general




FIFY
I've helpfully summarized your post so other people can get the gist without having to do any tedious reading.


Good summary of Slopppy's posts. Allow me to make it even less tedious reading.


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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


The top House Republican is blaming video games for the weekend’s mass shootings, but NOT the assault rifles.
www.vox.com/2019/8/4/20753725/el-paso-dayton-shootings-video-games-gop
-mccarthy


The GOP Senators from Texas, Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, insisted that there will be no federal assault rifle ban because they are both in the pocket of the National Rifle Association. The Republican Governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, deflected all criticism for failing to tighten gun laws by talking about how heroic the first responders are and that 1kiki is still a Russian troll.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


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The insane never-Trumpers will be driven even more insane in the wash/ rinse/ spin/ repeat/ cycle they mistake for the real world.

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