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Big Snow

POSTED BY: WISHIMAY
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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 1:37 AM

WISHIMAY

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I just checked every site with a forecast for this winter, and they all agree it will be wet, but with mild temperatures. And the models mostly say that it is a Neutral Nino kind of year, so they think not much activity.

They did say the deep south would be warm and dry this year, though. Well, half right.

Also, interestingly enough, there was a massive blizzard in 1717, and 1816 was the year it never got warm that summer. 1913 and 1922 also saw massive totals of 47 and 36 in storms. Late teens years are notorious for turbulence.

Big Snow may not be this year (although my arthritis is already in suck mode), but I have a feeling it's coming soon.

Therefore, I am going to use this thread to see if any of us are any good at prognosticating...




I am guessing that there will be a major snow storm in 2020 with at least 30 in of snow somewhere in the US.


So, pick a year and pick a snow total between 20-80 inches.

Feel free to go as far into the future as your zen allows

If we are still here to find out....









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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:32 AM

JO753

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To hell with your limits! I say 1297 inchez in 2024 at the deepest area in North America! The global warming wiplash effect.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 5:30 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
I just checked every site with a forecast for this winter, and they all agree it will be wet, but with mild temperatures. And the models mostly say that it is a Neutral Nino kind of year, so they think not much activity.

They did say the deep south would be warm and dry this year, though. Well, half right.

Also, interestingly enough, there was a massive blizzard in 1717, and 1816 was the year it never got warm that summer. 1913 and 1922 also saw massive totals of 47 and 36 in storms. Late teens years are notorious for turbulence.

Big Snow may not be this year (although my arthritis is already in suck mode), but I have a feeling it's coming soon.

Therefore, I am going to use this thread to see if any of us are any good at prognosticating...




I am guessing that there will be a major snow storm in 2020 with at least 30 in of snow somewhere in the US.


So, pick a year and pick a snow total between 20-80 inches.

Feel free to go as far into the future as your zen allows

If we are still here to find out....

I think 30 inches happens pretty much every year in the Upper Peninsula. And Alaska.
IIRC UP record is about 400 inches total for winter.

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:23 AM

6STRINGJOKER


We did just have a few in the last 6 or 7 years that were at least 24" around Chicago. When I lived in Wisconsin south of Milwaukee there was even more snow than the usual Chicago winter. Big snows aren't a big deal where we live. Gimme all the snow you want.

I rather enjoyed last winter. It was relatively warm compared to the deep freezes and times where it would be below zero for a week at a time, and quite a few nights were nearly 20 below without factoring wind chill. I love hearing we're going to have a mild temp winter. :)

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:08 PM

WISHIMAY

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And Alaska.



Continental US, tough guy. Alaska is a whole different climate.

And I'm not talking accumulated, I mean ONE storm, obviously.

2010 saw 32 in one, so It's actually not that common. Here are some others...

2003-20
1996-48
1993-50
1978-27
1977-40
1974-24
1967-23
1950-57

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Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:10 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
To hell with your limits! I say 29 inchez in 2024 at the deepest area in North America!




Fixed that for you

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 11:41 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And Alaska.

Continental US, tough guy. Alaska is a whole different climate.

And I'm not talking accumulated, I mean ONE storm, obviously.

2010 saw 32 in one, so It's actually not that common. Here are some others...

2003-20
1996-48
1993-50
1978-27
1977-40
1974-24
1967-23
1950-57

I was not talking accumulated. Except for that 390 inches in 1979.

42.5 inches 10-12 Nov 2014 at Ishpeming. 50 inches in Gile, WI.

32 inches Halloween 2011, Peru MA.

26 inches 8 Jan 2011 in West Bend, IN.

141 inches from 3-12 Feb 2007, Redfield NY. Fair certain at least one of those days was over 20.

26 inches 30 Dec 2004, Reno NV.
22 inches 23 Dec 2004, Cannelton, IN.

48 inches 27 Dec 2003, Millegan MT.

22 inches 27 Feb 2003, Woodsfield OH.

29 inches 21 Mar 2001, Mount Mitchell NC.

127 inches in 6 days of December 2001, Montague NY. I suspect at least one of those days was over 20.

24 inches 28 Feb 1998, Amidon ND.

40 inches in 12 hours, 11-12 Jan 1997, Montague.
29 inches 1 Apr 1997, Natick MA.

30 inches 19 Dec 1995, Herman MI.

33 inches 3 Mar 1994, Luray VA.
36 inches 7 Jan 1994, Wolf Ridge MN.

37 inches on Halloween 1991, Duluth MN.

25 inches 19 Feb 1979, Dover DE.

30 inches 7 Feb 1978, Woonsocket RI.

68 inches 9 Jan 1976, Adams NY.

47 inches 14 Mar 1973, Deadwood, SD.

23 inches 23 Feb 1971, Buffalo OK.

49 inches 25 Feb 1969, Mount Washington, NH.
30 inches 28 Dec 1968, Headquarters ID.

33 inches 29 Dec 1967, Alpena WV.
38 inches 14 Dec 1967, Heber Ranger Station AZ.

35 inches 22 Jan 1964, Silver Lake Brighton UT.

21 inches 6 Mar 1959, Fayette IA.

38 inches 20 Mar 1958, Morgantown PA.

25 inches 20 Jan 1952, Trempeleau Dam WI.

95 inches in 33 hours, 14-15 April 1921, Silver Lake CO.


I am a bit dismayed at the lack of information available on the interwebs for you beach people to learn about snowfall. 2 likely reasons for this lack. For us, snow is just weather, No Big Deal. And when snow cones, our hands don't fill with tweeter rants, but shovels to get 'er done.

You list 2 events since 1997, and claim snowfall is uncommon. A severely incomplete list has 13 events in those 19 years. You list another 5 since 1968, instead of 16. The local weather in your neighborhood does not represent the whole of the U.S.

Interesting that while the interwebs were growing around 1990-2005 there is more information, and then the novelty seems to have faded.

And most of the winters lately are too cold for snow.

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:39 PM

SIGNYM

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Buffalo - Thanksgiving 2014, 88 inches of lake-effect snow

Some of my family lives there ...


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Thursday, September 14, 2017 12:45 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


I like this site, they really stick their neck out and predict for a whole year!

http://www.longrangeweather.com/long-range-monthly-weather-forecasts.h
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Thursday, September 14, 2017 1:50 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Now that you've overanalyzed and nit picked to death, are you going to hazard a guess?

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 5:21 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


About whether or when you'll get a big snowfall where you live?

Sure, why not?

Big snowfall for you mid-December. You'll have a white Xmas.

That, and $3.25 will get you a cup of coffee!

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:32 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
About whether or when you'll get a big snowfall where you live?

Sure, why not?

Big snowfall for you mid-December. You'll have a white Xmas.

That, and $3.25 will get you a cup of coffee!




EEEEERNT. Sorry, you lose this round. It rarely EVER snows in December here, let alone accumulates.
We tend to get our worst snows in February or March.

Also, hubby and I can't drink coffee. Green Tea, please.


Okay, let's make this easier...


What will be the total snowfall for the largest storm this winter in the continental US?

I'll go with ....17

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 8:29 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, let me know about your Xmas weather! It'll be fun either way to find out.

Hmmm.... big snow for the year? I'm betting 20". That's not in "one day" but in one "snowfall" which could be over three days.

BTW- Alaska IS in the "continental" USA. It isn't in the "contiguous" USA ... in other words, its OCONUS. So are we including Alaska, or not?

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:10 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So are we including Alaska, or not?





NO. Who of us here is an expert on Alaskan weather???

STAY AWAY FROM GOOGLE, SIG! *Smacks mouse hand* Bad SIG!

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Thursday, September 14, 2017 10:42 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So are we including Alaska, or not?


NO. Who of us here is an expert on Alaskan weather???

STAY AWAY FROM GOOGLE, SIG! *Smacks mouse hand* Bad SIG!

Even more of the winter in AK is too cold for snow.

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Monday, December 4, 2017 10:41 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


The Keewanaw Peninsula is forecast for possible couple feet of snow in the next few days.

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Monday, December 4, 2017 11:02 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Was almost 70 here today, but cold/freezing rain by the end of the week, maybe. It's been a fairly nice fall....

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Tuesday, December 5, 2017 7:38 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yeah... I didn't check the weather, but I'm glad I brought my coat to work last night. I was fine in a t-shirt on my first break, but by 1AM it was cold and windy and it's about freezing now. The wind was blowing my car all over the road.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 12:09 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


https://frontier.yahoo.com/gma/more-bitter-cold-snow-expected-snapping
-christmas-day-112705322--abc-news-topstories.html


Records were shattered in Erie, Pennsylvania, when 34 inches of snow fell on Christmas Day, making it Erie's snowiest day on record.

As of this afternoon, Erie has had a total of 54.5 inches of snow since midnight Christmas Day -- the greatest two-day snowfall on record for Erie.

Thought it was supposed to be a NEUTRAL NINO YEAR?

It's a high of 10 here today... got cold early this year.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 1:41 PM

JO753

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It wuz -6.8 here last nite and its suppozed to stay really cold for the rest uv the yir.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 2:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Wishimay:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
And Alaska.


Continental US, tough guy. Alaska is a whole different climate.

And I'm not talking accumulated, I mean ONE storm, obviously.

2010 saw 32 in one, so It's actually not that common. Here are some others...

2003-20
1996-48
1993-50
1978-27
1977-40
1974-24
1967-23
1950-57

IIRC Winter starts on 22 December. 3 days into winter Erie, PA gets 3 ft on Christmas Day.
Yep, not common at all.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 3:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yuck. It went from comfortable last week to frigid this week, and into the foreseeable future on weather.com. 3 degrees by me last night.

They're saying that most of the upper states will have a colder and wetter than average next 3 months, and most of the middle and southern states will have an average and warmer/dryer than normal season.

Of course, the Chicagoland area needs to be one of the two places on the map that have a big ole dark spot indicating the highest chance for greater than average precipitation. Great time for my car to start leaking 1 quart of oil every 60 or so miles. I might have to break down and get a car loan for the first time in 17 years so I don't end up losing my job... or end up getting stranded on the express way when it's -5 degrees out without a cell phone.


Good news, Wishy. Assuming you live at least 100-150 miles south of Chicago, you shouldn't have too bad a winter. I don't remember how far south you are.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 5:35 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz -6.8 here last nite and its suppozed to stay really cold for the rest uv the yir. com

I heard it's been a high of 10 below the last couple days in my hood, too cold to snow.
Supposed to warm up to 10 above and maybe snow.

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Wednesday, December 27, 2017 6:59 PM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:

Yep, not common at all.




Guess you missed the part where it said it is a RECORD, as in NOT COMMON AT ALL?

You'd have to be able to get your head out of your ass for that though.

I should have gone with me first instinct. Reading all the "neutral nino" crap had me questioning myself...

"Late teens years are notorious for turbulence.

Big Snow may not be this year (although my arthritis is already in suck mode), but I have a feeling it's coming soon. "


Never doubt the bones...

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Thursday, December 28, 2017 3:16 AM

JO753

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This iz the song that my brain playz wen its freekin cold:



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Friday, December 29, 2017 1:09 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
It wuz -6.8 here last nite and its suppozed to stay really cold for the rest uv the yir. com

I heard it's been a high of 10 below the last couple days in my hood, too cold to snow.
Supposed to warm up to 10 above and maybe snow.

Yesterday it warmed up enough to show.

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Saturday, December 30, 2017 10:24 AM

JO753

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It wuz 15 yesterday, too cold to work on my car.

Its -1 today, plus windy. Now I'm going to work on it!

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Saturday, December 30, 2017 6:55 PM

OONJERAH


I'm at abt 2,200 ft or so; temp is about 60° I guess.
May I have a balmy New Year!
California!

... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Saturday, December 30, 2017 8:47 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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lol... enjoy it OONJ. It will be -7 here. :)

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:39 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


News says forecast for central Florida has snow. Likely not 2 ft, though.

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Thursday, January 18, 2018 9:54 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


I didn't catch the results - did Tejas get 2 feet of snow? Did another location in the past couple weeks?

The last few days warmed so much around mevthat it started snowing.

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Thursday, January 18, 2018 10:45 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like the Sahara Desert had 15 inches of snow.

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Thursday, January 18, 2018 11:11 AM

WISHIMAY

There will be fire and brimstone and Earth will be destroyed!... in several billion years!----------------------------------------- "Well, so long Earth. Thanks for the air... and what-not." -Philip J. Fry


We had 8 total and it's still here. Coldest damn winter I can remember. Kids have been off school all week. I have a feeling the rain we are supposed to get Sun/Mon might be more snow.

Guarantee our heat/electric bill is going to be over $500. It this keeps up 'till March we'll just sign over the car...it'll be cheaper...

Weird six months weather-wise for the whole country...

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Friday, March 2, 2018 8:31 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Weatherguessers are reporting that upstate New York is going to get over 2 feet of snow in this storm.

I haven't heard if other locations have already got that much snow from this storm.

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Friday, March 2, 2018 10:30 PM

AURAPTOR

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Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Weatherguessers are reporting that upstate New York is going to get over 2 feet of snow in this storm.

I haven't heard if other locations have already got that much snow from this storm.




Heard a guy on radio talking about how these storms weren't so uncommon in the late 50's to the early 70's. Back when #scientists knew we were headed for a new ice age.

Now every storm , how ever completely normal and pattern fitting, is proof of AGW.


Idiots.

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Friday, March 2, 2018 11:17 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Weatherguessers are reporting that upstate New York is going to get over 2 feet of snow in this storm.

I haven't heard if other locations have already got that much snow from this storm.

Heard a guy on radio talking about how these storms weren't so uncommon in the late 50's to the early 70's. Back when #scientists knew we were headed for a new ice age.

Now every storm , how ever completely normal and pattern fitting, is proof of AGW.

Idiots.

Be careful now. BungBetty is about to splain to you that snow is a rare event in America (not like, weather), in 5...4...3...2...

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Saturday, March 3, 2018 7:52 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



I guess since the areas hardest impacted by this storm are mostly Blue state Hillary supporters, this is God's way of punishing them for not voting for Trump.




Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Wednesday, March 7, 2018 5:09 AM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


News just said California got 8 ft of snow over the weekend.

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Wednesday, March 7, 2018 7:11 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

I guess since the areas hardest impacted by this storm are mostly Blue state Hillary supporters, this is God's way of punishing them for not voting for Trump.




Punish away - no school and lots of skiing.


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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 6:51 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Sounds like the 3rd blizzard in 2 weeks for the Northeast will only top out at 23 inches, with most areas only getting 16 inches.

Only 1 week of Winter left.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:00 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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Yeah... I've been done with winter for about 3 months now.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:22 AM

OONJERAH


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
News just said California got 8 ft of snow over the weekend.



That must be Alturas in the far NE corner.

I'm in the eastern foothills, abt 2,500 ft ... & I didn't get any.
Thank you, Weather Lady.

I'm sure the ski lodges, 5,000 ft & up, have plenty, tho.

... OK. We did get a spot of snow last week.


... oooOO}{OOooo ...

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Thursday, March 22, 2018 11:22 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Now that winter is over, New York is only getting 15 inches from Storm Toby, and now North Dakota and Minnesota is getting little more than a foot.

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Thursday, April 12, 2018 3:40 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Winter ended last month, but northern states are getting big snow. Upper Midwest is supposed to get "heavy snow" on Friday, Sat, Sun, and Monday.
Last week was only 12 inches.

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Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:30 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
Winter ended last month, but northern states are getting big snow. Upper Midwest is supposed to get "heavy snow" on Friday, Sat, Sun, and Monday.
Last week was only 12 inches.

Tried to leave my driveway today, but it was full of 3 feet of snow, more than any other day this year.
Local weather says today is a record, 23" and counting.

And the heavy snow is expected to be tomorrow.

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Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK

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heh... yeah. I remember Milwaukee winters. Geographically speaking, where I am now wouldn't look much different on a map to somebody who's never lived there, but it's been my experience that the further NorthWest along Lake Michigan you get the more that lake effect snow can pummel you.

That's not to say I haven't been hit hard since I've lived where I am now, but I don't miss literally being snowed in someplace.

Hope your snowblower is up to the task. Mine just might be the single greatest purchase I ever made after my house.

Do Right, Be Right. :)

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Sunday, April 15, 2018 4:59 PM

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Winter ended last month, but northern states are getting big snow. Upper Midwest is supposed to get "heavy snow" on Friday, Sat, Sun, and Monday.
Last week was only 12 inches.

Tried to leave my driveway today, but it was full of 3 feet of snow, more than any other day this year.
Local weather says today is a record, 23" and counting.

And the heavy snow is expected to be tomorrow.

Folks are talking about how historic this is, but only talking about 30" or similar.
A few days ago the weatherguessers said that it was April snow, so it would melt right away and not accumulate. So I let my guard down.

Wrong. Everything is closed, libraries, churches, colleges. My city Street, across the road from the High School, has not been plowed since the snow started, except a one-lane path. The plow trucks had already been mostly converted to spring/summer use.

And yes, a few blocks away Lambeau Field is closed.

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Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


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Winter ended last month, but northern states are getting big snow. Upper Midwest is supposed to get "heavy snow" on Friday, Sat, Sun, and Monday.
Last week was only 12 inches.

Tried to leave my driveway today, but it was full of 3 feet of snow, more than any other day this year.
Local weather says today is a record, 23" and counting.

And the heavy snow is expected to be tomorrow.

Folks are talking about how historic this is, but only talking about 30" or similar.
A few days ago the weatherguessers said that it was April snow, so it would melt right away and not accumulate. So I let my guard down.

Wrong. Everything is closed, libraries, churches, colleges. My city Street, across the road from the High School, has not been plowed since the snow started, except a one-lane path. The plow trucks had already been mostly converted to spring/summer use.

And yes, a few blocks away Lambeau Field is closed.

Plus the Mall is closed.

And everything is closed on Monday, and Snow Emergency plus closings declared for Tuesday.

And some businesses have had their roofs collapsed. Now THAT is something unexpected for April. That does not happen often in Wisconsin.

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Sunday, April 15, 2018 8:45 PM

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Had a roof collapse up here not this winter but last winter. That was unexpected.

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Sunday, April 15, 2018 11:18 PM

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Our news showed that the roof collapses were a hotel (occupied), barn - trapping livestock, and carports (smashed 7 cars).

Showed a local school buried, only the upper Windows above the entrance plus the roof were visible.

Ranked 2nd heaviest snow storm on record for Green Bay, after the 1 March 1888 storm.



So anyway, what is the total snowfall events that this thread was started for? A couple hundred?

Quite the rare event, yep.

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