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What's Putin up to? (a fan thread)

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Monday, March 27, 2017 1:34 PM

KPO


Just a thread for me and my fellow Putin admirers to share the latest news about our favourite ex-KGB strongman.

I'll start:

Cracking down on opposition peaceful protests, arresting hundreds, including opposition leader:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39398305





<3 <3

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Monday, March 27, 2017 1:51 PM

1KIKI


You must really have a hard on for him, you focus on him so much. I can see it now: UNREQUITED LOVE! THE MAN-CRUSH STORY FOR ALL TIMES! BROMANCE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER WITNESSED BEFORE!




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, March 27, 2017 4:32 PM

DREAMTROVE


He might fuck up. I've been thinking that. In which case they'll vote for someone else as president. He'll come back though. Seems Russian politics doesn't end the way american politics ends (it probably ends with being shot) but anyone remember Medvedev?

I agree the protests here are a story, unless they were FAKE NEWS! (It was yuge. I saw it, melania and ivanka saw it...) but srsly, in general 1kiki does have a point. We don't seem to see a lot of posts about Buhari. A leader of an oil rich nation with a population larger than Russia, from which we get a great deal of our oil. Dogged by accusations of ties to terrorism, past coup attempts, involvement in the civil war, and crackdowns on protestors, silencing of critics, much like this story here. Honestly, I don't spend a lot of time thinking about Buhari. I think if they don't like him, they'll vote for someone else, but it's not really our business, except in the oil business. I actually think he's doing okay, it's a tough job. As for Putin, anh, if they don't like him, they'll elect someone else. Another thing about Russian politics, you can elect someone to any office and declare them the leader.

So sure, it's half story, half "but Russia"

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Monday, March 27, 2017 5:54 PM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
You must really have a hard on for him, you focus on him so much. I can see it now: UNREQUITED LOVE! THE MAN-CRUSH STORY FOR ALL TIMES! BROMANCE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER WITNESSED BEFORE!



If you'd been paying attention you'd know that KPO hasn't posted much in a while, and when he did he focused mostly on the shit sandwich that is Syria. You focus more on me than KPO does on Putin. Hey, does that mean...?

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Monday, March 27, 2017 5:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Just a thread for me and my fellow Putin admirers to share the latest news about our favourite ex-KGB strongman.

I'll start:

Cracking down on opposition peaceful protests, arresting hundreds, including opposition leader:

<3 <3



Protest against Corruption - some 100 protests around Russia. God Bless the Russian people!

Minimal mention on rt.com - imagine that. rt.com says:
"Organizers’ claims to activists that Sunday’s rallies in Moscow and at some other locations were sanctioned were “false and provocative,” the Kremlin spokesman says, following a thousands-strong opposition rally in the center of the Russian capital.
He (huh? who he?) added that the Russian government was not concerned with the protests as such, but that using public anger over the perceived corruption of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev to make people act in violation of the law was a serious issue."

It's all Medvedev's fault! He must be the Paul Ryan of Russia.

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Monday, March 27, 2017 6:41 PM

KPO


Quote:

You must really have a hard on for him, you focus on him so much.

That's right kiki, you've converted me with all those RT articles you post.

#PutinFangirlsForever

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Monday, March 27, 2017 6:43 PM

1KIKI


Quote:

You focus more on me than KPO does on Putin.
Only in reply to how much you focus on me.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Monday, March 27, 2017 6:53 PM

KPO


Quote:

Protest against Corruption - some 100 protests around Russia. God Bless the Russian people!


I don't know if you've seen this already G, some more heartening evidence that dissatisfaction with Putin and the oligarchs is creeping into parts of Russian society. From a high school: a recorded conversation between a "patriotic" principal lecturing a class of students - https://globalvoices.org/2017/03/21/this-is-how-a-russian-school-princ
ipal-talked-to-her-students-about-patriotism
/

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Monday, March 27, 2017 7:33 PM

THGRRI

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Monday, March 27, 2017 7:38 PM

RIVERLOVE


I prefer White Russians over Black Russians. Get over that!

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Monday, March 27, 2017 8:06 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


What's Putin up to? Looks like business as usual - critics or opponents not allowed.

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/newly-released-video-appears-show-000447625.
html

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Monday, March 27, 2017 8:44 PM

DREAMTROVE


Having been to a lot of US protests of this sort, I don't see anything unusual. I mean, being familiar with Russia, this really seems light for them. I don't see anything about Navalny being assassinated, the video wouldn't play. I saw he got 15 days in prison, probably for "re-education" but that said, you have to know a color revolution when you see one.

The school classroom thing, that's not at all bothersome. It's good. I don't think we're at this open-minded a level here.

Should Putin step aside? Eventually yes, but not to a CIA color revolution. If I were in Russia right now, I'd probably support him, at least over chaos. I'd say the same about Trump. But in a stable democratic way, yes, go ahead an float a candidate. Engage in a discussion. I know a lot of Russians sympathize with this general position, but to hear their arguments, they have an idea that the US is better than this, but we're actually worse. The Russian dissenters find a prevalence of national flags, the phrase "greatest nation on earth" to be totalitarian propaganda. If they came to the US, they'd see this sort of thing everywhere, every day, and would have since Reagan.

I see much more similar in this to us than I see different, and what I see that's different, they're a step more free than we are, and a step behind europe.

IMHO? Russia could solve this problem by deregulating their own media, so there were Russian sources that weren't pro-govt, so the people wouldn't be taking to color revolution positions if they opposed Putin. Allow a solid patriotic pro-Russian opposition, and you wouldn't have a CIA supported one.

For what it's worth, RT is a pretty good site. The whole Russian dialogue is pretty straightforward and honest. In comparison, CNN, etc, are echoing a hollow shell of an argument which comes down to damning Trump for not being HRC. All Russia needs is it's own FOX News, to counterbalance the mainstream voice, which, I would agree with the school principal, is the pro-Putin for fear of '17, USST, Tsars or Yeltsin. Srsly, name a Russian leader under which they had more freedom. Name a color revolution that ended in more freedom. There's not really any hope that this sort of activity will lead to more freedom. A solid opposition is what they need, and they will need it in the media and the Duma before they can elect a decent opposition candidate.

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Monday, March 27, 2017 8:44 PM

DREAMTROVE


Huh. A double post.

Edit: finally got the assassination video to play. A Russian ex-govt official in Ukraine. Yes, there's are issues. This is a long term Russian thing, and belongs with the Al-Awlaki style story in the US.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2017 12:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Quote:

Protest against Corruption - some 100 protests around Russia. God Bless the Russian people!


I don't know if you've seen this already G, some more heartening evidence that dissatisfaction with Putin and the oligarchs is creeping into parts of Russian society. From a high school: a recorded conversation between a "patriotic" principal lecturing a class of students - https://globalvoices.org/2017/03/21/this-is-how-a-russian-school-princ
ipal-talked-to-her-students-about-patriotism
/

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"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521




Those kids are so cool! That's when Russian stubbornness pays off. Don't listen to teacher Kiks and principal Sigs, kids!

I have yet to see the Navalny video, only parts. Looking forward to seeing the rest.

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Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:08 PM

THGRRI

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What's Putin up to? About 5'2 I think.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 8:07 PM

KPO


Funding far-right, anti-EU parties in Europe - https://euobserver.com/elections/137459

Quote:

Revelations that Marine Le Pen tried to borrow a further €3 million from Russia pose questions on Kremlin interference in the French vote.
Mediapart, a French investigative website, revealed on Friday (31 March) that Le Pen, the French anti-EU and far-right candidate, agreed to borrow the funds in order to finance her campaign.




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Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Friday, March 31, 2017 8:23 PM

THGRRI

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FBI probing whether Trump aides helped Russian intel in early 2016

CBS News has learned that U.S. investigators are looking into whether Trump campaign representatives had a role in helping Russian intelligence as it carried out cyberattacks on the Democratic National Committee and other political targets in March 2016.

This new information suggests that the FBI is going back further than originally reported to determine the extent of possible coordination. Sources say investigators are probing whether an individual or individuals connected to the campaign intentionally or unwittingly helped the Russians breach Democratic Party targets.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-probing-whether-trump-aides-helped-rus
sian-intel-in-early-2016
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Friday, March 31, 2017 8:32 PM

THGRRI

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Russians are protesting! Social media changed the playing field.

Social media enable quick and broad mobilization.

The usual tools of repression didn’t work — and new ones haven’t arrived.

This movement threatens to disrupt the 2018 Russian presidential campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/31/russians
-are-protesting-why-part-4-social-media-changed-the-playing-field/?utm_term=.93226d917cd2


Hmmm, can we help? Please let us help.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 8:38 PM

THGRRI

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Russia censors websites advertising Sunday protests in wake of last week’s wide-scale rallies

The Russian government on Friday ordered its media watchdog to censor websites advertising nationwide demonstrations scheduled for this weekend on the heels of last Sunday’s historic anti-corruption protests.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/mar/31/russia-censors-website
s-advertising-sunday-protest
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Friday, March 31, 2017 9:37 PM

1KIKI


Quote:

That's right kiki, you've converted me with all those RT articles you post.
link to 'all those RT articles' needed, with entire quotes, in context




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:05 PM

1KIKI


This is just a series of unsupported claims made by various parties. I categorize it as gossip.
Quote:


Le Pen wanted millions more from Russia

More?
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By Andrew Rettman
BRUSSELS, 31. Mar, 11:07

Revelations that Marine Le Pen tried to borrow a further €3 million from Russia pose questions on Kremlin interference in the French vote.

Le Pen tried to borrow ... at her initiative. Was it 'from Russia?', or from a bank?
Quote:



Mediapart, a French investigative website, revealed on Friday (31 March) that Le Pen, the French anti-EU and far-right candidate, agreed to borrow the funds in order to finance her campaign.

very odd phrasing
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The websitepublished an internal document of her National Front party, showing that she and party chiefs on 15 June last year decided to borrow €3 million from Strategy Bank in Russia at a rate of 6 percent per year.

She and the party decided to borrow ... at their initiative. They took out an interest charging loan, not 'from Russia' but from a bank.
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It said the “purpose of the borrowed money” was “financing the electoral campaign”.

Mediapart also published a second National Front document, which said the funds were to be used for election “expenses” and were to be wired to a bank account opened in Le Pen’s name.

Le Pen, whose surprise meeting with Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Moscow last week caused a stir, declined to comment.

The party’s treasurer, Wallerand de Saint-Just, who told press last week that he was not asking Russia for more money, told Mediapart that the €3 million loan was “just a project, which did not have any follow-up”.

Mediapart did not say whether the National Front received the money and did not give information about Strategy Bank.

Perhaps because their information was unvetted.
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The revelations come after Le Pen and her father admitted last year to having previously borrowed €11 million from a different Russian bank.

Fears of Russian election-meddling in Europe were heightened after Moscow was accused

without evidence
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of having swayed the outcome of the US vote via hacking and media disinformation.

Le Pen is neck-and-neck in polls with the centrist, pro-EU candidate Emmanuel Macron for the first round of the presidential vote on 23 April.

He has been targeted by Russian hackers

claim made without evidence
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and accused of being secretly gay, an agent of US banks, and of being an agent of Saudi Arabia in French-language Russian media.
claim made without evidence
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Speaking to EUobserver in an interview on Thursday, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, a Russian former oil chief who was jailed after trying to enter politics, said Putin saw Le Pen as a “realistic chance to destroy the EU”.

opinion made without evidence
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Even if the EU could politically survive France leaving the bloc, as Le Pen wants it to, Khodorkovsky added that a French EU exit would, for Putin, also mean that “the EU would have no more nuclear weapons”.

Is 'the EU' a military organization with an army proper?
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France and the UK, the latter of which started EU exit talks this week, are the only nuclear-armed EU countries.

Frans Timmermans, the Dutch EU commissioner, also told the Spanish parliament on Thursday that Putin was using far-right parties to harm the EU.

“The reason why Putin supports the extreme right in Europe is because it weakens us and divides us,” he said. “A divided Europe means that Putin is the boss,” he added.

opinion made without evidence
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Putin told press in Moscow that his meeting with Le Pen was not an attempt to interfere in France. He also denied US election-meddling at a meeting with the Finnish and Icelandic presidents in Russia on Thursday.

Timmermans added that US intelligence services made the accusation for the sake domestic politics. “So what do we want to achieve? To terminate our diplomatic relations completely? To drive the situation to the level that it was at in the 1960s during the Cuban missile crisis? And where next?” he said at the meeting in Arkhangelsk, in north-west Russia.

Sauli Niinisto, the Finnish president, said it was wrong to think that global tension was increasing. “Very many of my European Union colleagues [are] visiting Moscow ... the dialogue is increasing, and that’s not tension, that’s getting rid of tensions”, he said.

Niinisto offered to convene a summit of Arctic leaders at which Putin could meet the new US president, Donald Trump, for the first time, in a bid to lower tensions further.

The Danish and Norwegian foreign ministers also participated in the Arkhangelsk meeting.







Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Friday, March 31, 2017 10:19 PM

DREAMTROVE


There's a more worrisome question: Why was Le Pen representing France at Arkangel?

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Friday, March 31, 2017 11:13 PM

1KIKI


Le Pen didn't meet with Putin at Arkhangelsk, according to the story, though the wording is scrambled enough - and some of the English peculiar enough - to be unclear. According to the story, these people were at the meeting: Frans Timmermans the Dutch EU commissioner, Sauli Niinisto, the Finnish president, and the Danish and Norwegian foreign ministers.




Timmermans added that US intelligence services made the accusation for the sake domestic politics. “So what do we want to achieve? To terminate our diplomatic relations completely? To drive the situation to the level that it was at in the 1960s during the Cuban missile crisis? And where next?” he said at the meeting in Arkhangelsk, in north-west Russia.

Sauli Niinisto, the Finnish president, said it was wrong to think that global tension was increasing. “Very many of my European Union colleagues [are] visiting Moscow ... the dialogue is increasing, and that’s not tension, that’s getting rid of tensions”, he said.

Niinisto offered to convene a summit of Arctic leaders at which Putin could meet the new US president, Donald Trump, for the first time, in a bid to lower tensions further.

The Danish and Norwegian foreign ministers also participated in the Arkhangelsk meeting.




Originally posted by G:
"I coined the slogan "We Suck!"© many years ago."
G is an avowed Putin-loving, pro-Russian, anti-American troll.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:16 AM

THGRRI

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None of it matters 1kiki. Russia is single handedly increasing military spending around the world by it's actions. Whether you deny them or not. And all those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia.

Russia's military budget, under 70 billion and dropping.

EU's military budget, 227 billion and because of Putin it is now rising.

United States military budget, last year, 522 billion, 2015's budget was 598 billion and Trump is pushing for it to go back to this amount this budget. And Putins' cyber attacks have woken our intelligence agencies and their budgets are being increased as well.

Predicted oil prices for the next two years does not rise above 55 dollars a barrel.

Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.



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Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:42 AM

DREAMTROVE


That's some twisted reasoning you've got there T,
Your logic does not resemble our earth logic.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:56 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
That's some twisted reasoning you've got there T,
Your logic does not resemble our earth logic.



Really, what exactly is earth logic.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 4:07 PM

DREAMTROVE


Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
That's some twisted reasoning you've got there T,
Your logic does not resemble our earth logic.



Really, what exactly is earth logic.

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You're on a Joss Whedon fan site.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 6:51 PM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
Quote:

Originally posted by THGRRI:
Quote:

Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
That's some twisted reasoning you've got there T,
Your logic does not resemble our earth logic.



Really, what exactly is earth logic.

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You're on a Joss Whedon fan site.



I would remind you the United States and China are all that's left in Josh's future. Your beloved Russia is no where to be found. How's that for Earth logic.



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Saturday, April 1, 2017 7:37 PM

SOCKPUPPET


Eta Kooram Nah Smech!

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:32 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Seems to me that Thiggs is finally getting it.

Russia isn't really all that scary.

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Saturday, April 1, 2017 10:38 PM

DREAMTROVE


6, Lol,

So why does Simon say "This is for hens to laugh!" ? I get that it's "this is ridiculous" but it's a peculiar safe word for a manchurian candidate, also why Russian? Because all spies are Russia?

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Friday, May 19, 2017 12:16 PM

THGRRI

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:26 AM

KPO


In France, being shown up by President Macron:

Macron denounces "lying" Russian media on Putin visit - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-40088898/macron-denounces-ru
ssian-media-on-putin-visit


France announces arrival of first gay refugee from Chechnya just as Putin is in town - https://www.thelocal.fr/20170530/france-takes-in-refugee-from-chechnya
-as-macron-presses-putin-on-gay-rights


Ouch

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017 4:45 AM

6STRINGJOKER


How much you wanna bet that it wasn't the first gay refugee, but the first one that wasn't closeted and it made a great news story.

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
How much you wanna bet that it wasn't the first gay refugee, but the first one that wasn't closeted and it made a great news story.



I seriously doubt he was the "first one that wasn't closeted," how would anyone know? Do you think they wear signs? Whatever, would that be bad? What difference would it make? Do you think he was *being gay* to get in the news?

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:55 PM

6STRINGJOKER


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Originally posted by G:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
How much you wanna bet that it wasn't the first gay refugee, but the first one that wasn't closeted and it made a great news story.



I seriously doubt he was the "first one that wasn't closeted," how would anyone know? Do you think they wear signs? Whatever, would that be bad? What difference would it make? Do you think he was *being gay* to get in the news?



It wouldn't have been a story if he wasn't gay.

The rest of your questions are either not serious or don't deserve a reply.

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Monday, June 12, 2017 3:19 PM

KPO


Cracking down on peaceful anti-corruption protests:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40245152

<3 <3 <3



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Thursday, June 15, 2017 3:26 AM

KPO


Pro-Putin guy gets hauled away at Moscow protest



Even the cheerleaders aren't safe

"And then they came for Siggy and Kiki, and I didn't speak up... because it was fucking hilarious."

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Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:09 AM

6STRINGJOKER


I can't say I really care about what is going on in Russia. That's their problem. I'd be more concerned about what organizations like Facebook are doing to curb freedom of speech, all in the name of blocking "fake news".

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Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:15 AM

G

... fully loaded, safety off...


Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
Pro-Putin guy gets hauled away at Moscow protest - Even the cheerleaders aren't safe



Like he was just sucked up by a black hole! He didn't even have time to yell "Freedom!"

Quote:

Originally posted by kpo:
"And then they came for Siggy and Kiki, and I didn't speak up... because it was fucking hilarious."



I don't think they'd change their position even if that happened. Sad!

Got him! I think I found Mr. SIGGY:



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Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:47 PM

JO753

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PREDICTION!

Putin will hav Trump do sumthing that will cauze oil prisez to spike.

This will happen az soon az Trump's impeachment bekumz unavoidabl, if not sooner. Its Putin cashing in hiz Trump card.

Maybe the Qatar thing wuz a 1st move for this?

This will help Russia for a wile, but it will also akselerate development and salez uv electric carz, forsing oil prisez down agen, probably way down, so we will get 1$ pg or lower gas.

Unfortunately for me, the prise coud go over 3$, blowing my previous prediction. (made befor Trump wun)

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Friday, June 16, 2017 1:03 AM

1KIKI


http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61726
What I think about Putin ...


I don't think about him at all. That's because I really don't care what he does unless Russian troops are at our borders. And by 'at our borders' I mean US/ Canadian, US/ Mexican, or the US seaboard ... and not Ukrainian, Yugoslavian, or Vietnamese.

I don't think it's the US's job to deal with Russia in the supposed interests of another country.

I didn't care back then that all the dominoes were going to fall in Vietnam, and I don't care what story is being flogged now.

Basically, I don't care.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Friday, June 16, 2017 10:59 AM

JO753

rezident owtsidr


Soooo....

If your naybor on the left warned you that the naybor on your rite mite be cobbling together a dirty bom uzing old smoke detectorz, youd say 'I dont care'?

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Friday, June 16, 2017 11:19 AM

THGRRI

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I can't say I really care about what is going on in Russia. That's their problem. I'd be more concerned about what organizations like Facebook are doing to curb freedom of speech, all in the name of blocking "fake news".



Russia's the driving force behind the fake news Jack. Others have been successful at making money off it, but it's mainly a tool utilized to destabilize democracies. That means Facebook, Google, whomever, needs to understand that to block what Russia is doing. It's political news they need to mainly focus on Jack. It's news regarding institutions. You can't separate the two ( Russia, fake news ) as though they are not connected.

In other words, you should care deeply about what Russia is doing. With all the facts presented to you, you still doggedly refuse to condemn Russia for anything. I'm beginning to think there is something more there Jack. Are you really American?





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Friday, June 16, 2017 12:57 PM

6STRINGJOKER


No T. I'm Russian. I'm on Putin's payroll.

Putin has so much money to burn that they pay me to defend them to the audience of 6 members who still come to this site to debate politics.

You got me.

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Friday, June 16, 2017 12:58 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
Soooo....

If your naybor on the left warned you that the naybor on your rite mite be cobbling together a dirty bom uzing old smoke detectorz, youd say 'I dont care'?

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Bad analogy. A dirty bomb 30 feet away from where I sleep is something to be concerned about. I would have something to say if I knew my neighbors had a meth lab in their basement too.

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Friday, June 16, 2017 2:12 PM

JO753

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OK. Wut about the guy 2 doorz away?

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Saturday, June 17, 2017 10:59 PM

1KIKI


Quote:

Originally posted by jonesing:
Soooo....

If your naybor on the left warned you that the naybor on your rite mite be cobbling together a dirty bom uzing old smoke detectorz, youd say 'I dont care'?

my god what a fucking stupid question
Quote:

Originally posted by kiki:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=61726
What I think about Putin ...

I don't think about him at all. That's because I really don't care what he does unless Russian troops are at our borders. And by 'at our borders' I mean US/ Canadian, US/ Mexican, or the US seaboard ... and not Ukrainian, Yugoslavian, or Vietnamese.

I don't think it's the US's job to deal with Russia in the supposed interests of another country.

I didn't care back then that all the dominoes were going to fall in Vietnam, and I don't care what story is being flogged now.

Basically, I don't care.




Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.

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Saturday, June 17, 2017 11:57 PM

6STRINGJOKER


Quote:

Originally posted by JO753:
OK. Wut about the guy 2 doorz away?



I dunno. What's the blast radius and the after effects of the bomb?

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Saturday, June 24, 2017 8:35 AM

KPO


Punking Oliver Stone and other gullible useful idiots worldwide to make them think Russia is actually fighting ISIS:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/hayesbrown/putin-punks-stone?utm_term=.ugPE7Q
4VO#.xfx152WMN


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Vladimir Putin Punked The Hell Out Of Oliver Stone With Some Old Footage
The Russian president told the venerable auteur that the footage on his phone was the Russian air force kicking ass. (Spoiler: it wasn't.)

Legendary filmmaker Oliver Stone conducted a series of interviews with Russian President Vladimir Putin for an in-depth look at just what makes Putin tick.
Stone, the director of such films as JFK, Platoon, and Snowden, once said he believed that the 2015 revolution in Ukraine was a CIA plot, so it's easy to see why Putin agreed to sit down with him.

Stone, the director of such films as JFK, Platoon, and Snowden, once said he believed that the 2015 revolution in Ukraine was a CIA plot, so it's easy to see why Putin agreed to sit down with him.

In the trailer for the third episode, Putin shows Stone footage of what he says is "the work of our air force" against militants in Syria. "You wouldn't want to join ISIS if you saw that," Stone intones in the trailer. BUT, as it turns out, that footage on Putin's phone probably wasn't Russian at all. Instead, it seems it was as American as baseball, apple pie, and the Apache series of attack helicopter.

As a Facebook user noticed, and Russian-language outlet Meduza published, the video Stone was shown looked an awful lot like footage, posted in 2013, of an apparent 2009 US strike against the Taliban in Afghanistan.

...



See the videos side by side here: https://twitter.com/CITeam_en/status/877152860089323522

Putin even dubbed Russian pilots' voices onto the US Army footage

<3 <3 <3

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