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Donald Trump's presidency is a horror show

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Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:39 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Let us count the ways.

We'll see how long and how bad the list gets over 4 years.

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Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:40 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.





So Trump is "draining the swamp" by creating the richest cabinet in US history, and naming a former Goldman Sachs banker as Treasury Secretary...


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Thursday, December 1, 2016 11:51 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It would be a pointless discussion to imagine who Hillary would have picked for her Cabinet, so here is OBAMA'S CABINET

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Robert McDonald, President Obama's pick to lead the Department of Veterans Affairs, is giving up big bucks to serve the public. Between his salary and bonuses, McDonald made nearly $16 million in 2013 - his last year as CEO and president of Procter & Gamble - according to Forbes.

It's not uncommon for a cabinet secretary to make a large salary. Hank Paulson, George W. Bush's third and final treasury secretary, made more than $35 million in 2005 as CEO of Goldman Sachs, according to government documents.

Here are the Top 5 financial heavy hitters in the Obama cabinet:

1) Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker
Net worth: $2.4 billion
U.S. Commerce Secretary Penny Pritzker led PSP Capital Partners, LLC, a real estate and investing firm before jumping into the public service. Her net worth is $2.4 billion, according to Forbes.

Before she took over the Commerce Department, Pritzker headed PSP Capital Partners, LLC, a real estate and private business investing firm. Forbes lists her net worth at $2.4 billion. She is the 226th richest person in the country and the first billionaire to hold a cabinet position. Pritzker also sat on the board of the Hyatt Hotels Corporation, which was co-founded by her father, Donald.

2) Secretary of State John Kerry
Net worth: $198 million
Kerry got most of his fortune when he married his wife, Teresa, the widow of Sen. John Heinz, of Heinz Ketchup. In 2012, Forbes listed Kerry's net worth at $198 million, making him the second-richest member of Congress at that time.

The one-time presidential candidate and longtime senator replaced Hillary Clinton as secretary of state in early 2013. He came under fire last summer as being out of touch for vacationing on his yacht during a military coup in Egypt.

3) Secretary of Homeland Security Jeh Johnson
Net worth: $11.2 million to $51.5 million
U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson has jumped between public and private law, has a net worth between $11.2 million and $51.5 million.

Johnson has jumped between public and private law since graduating law school 20 years ago. His most recent tour with the government started in 2009 when he became the Defense Department's lawyer. He replaced Janet Napolitano as secretary of Homeland Security last December.

While Johnson was still the attorney for the Defense Department five years ago, Washingtonian listed his assets somewhere between $11.2 million and $51.5 million. Johnson, before leaving for the Obama administration, made $2.6 million as a partner at the law firm, Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison in 2008, according to his financial disclosure form.

4) Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell
Net worth: $6.6 million to $25 million
U.S. Secretary of the Interior Sally Jewell, whose net worth is between $6.6 million and $25 million, spent more than a decade working at REI. She also has holdings at Macy's, Walmart and Exxon Mobil.

Jewell, who oversees federal parkland and natural resources, was the first corporate CEO in Obama's cabinet. The Center for Responsive Politics puts her average net worth in 2012 at $16 million. Jewell's assets, according to the organization, included holdings in Macy's, Walmart and Exxon Mobil.

Before her nomination in February 2013, Jewell spent more than a decade at REI, an outdoors equipment chain. Jewell's compensation for 2012, her last full year with the company, was $2.1 million, according to REI's website. She started her career as an engineer for Mobil before moving to banking.

5) Secretary of Energy Ernest Moniz
Net worth: $5.4 million to $18.1 million
U.S. Secretary for Energy Ernest Moniz has a net worth somewhere between $5.4 million to $18.1 million, according to Bloomberg. (Riccardo De Luca/AP)

In his 2012 financial disclosure, Moniz had a net worth somewhere between $5.4 million to $18.1 million, according to Bloomberg.

Before replacing Nobel Prize winner Steven Chu in 2013, Moniz was director of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology's Energy initiative. Moniz took in $304,168 the year before, according to his financial disclosure form. He also sat on the board of directors for several technology companies that dealt with the government.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/richest-members-obama-cabinet
-article-1.1861803


It's the state of our politics today that almost everyone engaged in it is wealthy. "ONE DOLLAR ONE VOTE" has been the paradigm for as long as I can remember.

How do we end money in politics, and break the stranglehold that the oligarchs have on our government?

https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens
_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf






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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

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Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:01 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

How do we end money in politics, and break the stranglehold that the oligarchs have on our government?

Maybe politicians could follow the code of ethics that exists, rather than ignoring it? If that is too much to ask, maybe politicians could at least be silent and stop loudly claiming they are following the code of ethics when they are doing no such thing? The U.S. ethics office is tweeting sarcastically at Trump on his business conflicts.

It's come to this, folks. The office of the United States that oversees ethics in government is sending sarcastic tweets to president-elect Donald J. Trump. Yes, he of the still unreleased tax returns, the many conflicts of interest, the recent $25 million fraud settlement, and the late-night Twitter wars.

The normally buttoned-down federal ethics office https://twitter.com/OfficeGovEthics/ issued what appears to have been a sarcastic series of tweets applauding Trump for promising to sell off his business assets, which nobody actually expects him to do because he's a lying sack of shit.

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump We can't repeat enough how good this total divestiture will be
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump Brilliant! Divestiture is good for you, very good for America!
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump OGE applauds the "total" divestiture decision. Bravo!
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonalTrump As we discussed with your counsel, divestiture is the way to resolve these conflicts.
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump OGE is delighted that you've decided to divest your businesses. Right decision!
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump Bravo! Only way to resolve these conflicts of interest is to divest. Good call!
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump this aligns with OGE opinion that POTUS should act as if 18 USC 208 applies, https://t.co/T6nNUPxFwp
11:55 AM-30 Nov 2016

U.S.OGE @OfficeGovEthics

.@realDonaldTrump this divestiture does what handing over control could never have done.
11:57 AM-30 Nov 2016

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, December 1, 2016 2:13 PM

RIVERLOVE


Trump's Cabinet of wealthy limousine lackeys is reminiscent of the aristocracy and courtesans at Versailles. Oh look, there's the Count de Money!


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Monday, December 5, 2016 5:03 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Trump sets out to start a diplomatic row with China over twitter - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-38167022

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US President-elect Donald Trump has posted a series of tweets criticising China for its monetary policy and its operations in the South China Sea.
"Did China ask us if it was OK to devalue their currency" and "build a massive military complex?" he asked. "I don't think so!"
Last week Mr Trump risked a diplomatic rift with China by speaking directly with Taiwan's president.
The highly unusual move saw China lodge a complaint with the US.



Certainly a break from the conventional softly-softly approach to Chinese relations. We'll see how it plays out.


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Monday, December 5, 2016 10:16 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


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Originally posted by kpo:

Trump sets out to start a diplomatic row with China over twitter

Certainly a break from the conventional softly-softly approach to Chinese relations. We'll see how it plays out.

"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Maybe Trump can unintentionally goad China into taking over Taiwan’s airports and moving in a million troops to suppress the “rebellion” in China’s breakaway province.

Then President Trump will have to decide if he will bomb the semiconductor factories on Taiwan so that advanced technology does not fall into the hands of the enemy. Or Trump could send in the Marines. It should be a great show, but bad for the electronics business.
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Taiwan’s Minister of National Defense Yen Ming told the national legislature’s Foreign Affairs and National Defense Committee the country’s military could hold out “at least one month” alone against a Chinese invasion.

The estimate was a sharp reminder of how much the strategic equation has turned against Taiwan.

https://news.usni.org/2014/03/26/taiwan-defend-chinese-attack

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Monday, December 5, 2016 10:42 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Maybe politicians could follow the code of ethics that exists, rather than ignoring it?- SECOND
Maybe this pipedream needs to be turned into something enforceable?

I like the concept, but the problem is that

1) Unless there are enforced consequences, people will cheat.

2) Any entity tasked with enforcing regulations on itself is doomed to failure. So Congress monitoring itself is about as successful as the police policing themselves.

3) Worse, the laws being written on "money in politics" is written by ... politicians! If that doesn't have "conflict of interest" written all over it, I don't know what does!

Just from a generic standpoint, there needs to be a separate entity ... not one appointed by the politicians who are going to "police themselves", but a separate citizens' commission, to write and enforce laws on "money in politics". And taking the successes and failures of the various citizen "Police Commissions" into account, we need to find a way to keep that relationship from getting too cozy over time, which- for whatever reason- seems to happen with regularity.



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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake


"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"

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Monday, December 5, 2016 11:10 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


FWIW the office of the president is specifically unregulated regarding 'conflict of interest' laws (as are Supreme Court 'justices').

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/conflict-interest-rules-apply-diff
erently-president
/

When it comes to ethics, not all government employees are regulated equally. What’s a serious matter for a second-term congressman with a small business has no equivalent for a president with a multibillion-dollar empire.

The government’s legislative and judicial branches are governed by well-established rules, but there’s far less clarity about what a president can and cannot do. Conflict of interest provisions are generally looser, though Democrat Jimmy Carter, Republican George W. Bush and many other recent presidents took care to separate themselves from their businesses.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, December 5, 2016 1:33 PM

SECOND

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Get Gen. Michael Flynn Out of the Trump White House

Michael Flynn Jr. is not just General Flynn's son. He is also Flynn's chief of staff and closest aide. Junior tweeted yesterday:

Until #Pizzagate proven to be false, it'll remain a story. The left seems to forget #PodestaEmails and the many "coincidences" tied to it. https://t.co/8HA9y30Yfp
— Michael G Flynn (@mflynnJR) December 4, 2016
https://twitter.com/mflynnJR/status/805611056009768960

There's much more in Flynn Jr's Twitter feed following this, all pointing in the same direction: he is a complete crackpot. And he is one of the closest confidantes of his father, who is also a crackpot. And Flynn Sr. is the top national security aide to Donald Trump, who is well known to have a weakness for conspiracy theories already.

Democrats have no influence over Donald Trump's White House. Presumably Republicans do. They need to figure out a way to get Flynn booted from the NSA position and as far away from Trump as possible. This isn't an amusing joke, and it's not just politics anymore. It's a serious national security weakness.

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Monday, December 5, 2016 3:31 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


link? cite? examples? OF COURSE NOT! Because SECOND posted it! Yet another bullshit, unsupported claim posted by SECOND !! TAA DAA!

And he is one of the closest confidantes of his father, who is also a crackpot.






How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Monday, December 5, 2016 3:36 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, first of all, like all of KRAPO's threads, this one is entirely biased. Not because of any negative opinions posted about Trump, but because

THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET.

Well, little facts like that never stood in the way of a good bias!



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"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"

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Thursday, December 8, 2016 1:57 PM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Trump picks climate sceptic Pruitt for environment chief:

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US President-elect Donald Trump has chosen an outspoken critic of President Obama's climate change policies to head the Environmental Protection Agency.

Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, 48, is seen as an ally of the fossil fuel industry.

He has been a key player in legal challenges against EPA regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-38247085

Gee, who could've seen this coming?


"Objective truths are established by evidence. Personal truths by faith. Political truths by incessant repetition."

Russia's and Assad's War Crimes in Syria - http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60278
Evidence the Syrian regime sponsors ISIS - http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=60521


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Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:42 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Well, first of all, like all of KRAPO's threads, this one is entirely biased. Not because of any negative opinions posted about Trump, but because

THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY HASN'T EVEN STARTED YET.

Well, little facts like that never stood in the way of a good bias!




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Friday, December 9, 2016 7:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


TRUMP IS NOT YET PRESIDENT.

For those who are unfamiliar with our political system and with English - you and KRAPO apparently - the inauguration (which means "beginning") is Jan 20, 2017.

TRUMP DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENCY YET.

HIS CABINET HAS NOT YET BEEN CONFIRMED

Trump's Cabinet choices may be awful, horrible, terrible, but they are NOT YET IN OFFICE AND NEITHER IS HE. So while it's fair to criticize Trump so far, he is still only the President-elect. Not President. If KRAPO had any objectivity, he would re-title the thread President-elect Trump is a horror show or some such.

The REAL bitching will begin when Trump actually starts ... yanno .... DOING THINGS AS PRESIDENT. THEN the complaints will fly - and deservedly so!



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"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"

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Friday, December 9, 2016 10:32 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Trump's Cabinet of wealthy limousine lackeys is reminiscent of the aristocracy and courtesans at Versailles. Oh look, there's the Count de Money!




Funny scene, but having zero basis in reality w/ this election. Or even, for that mater, the founding of this country. If anything, Trump is showing the exact inverse of what is being portrayed. Hillary has been aiming for and building up to this election for DECADES. Deals made, promises given, and HUGE sums of $$ taken from all around the world to install her Highness Hillary.

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Friday, December 9, 2016 12:06 PM

REAVERFAN


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:

Originally posted by Riverlove:
Trump's Cabinet of wealthy limousine lackeys is reminiscent of the aristocracy and courtesans at Versailles. Oh look, there's the Count de Money!




Funny scene, but having zero basis in reality w/ this election. Or even, for that mater, the founding of this country. If anything, Trump is showing the exact inverse of what is being portrayed. Hillary has been aiming for and building up to this election for DECADES. Deals made, promises given, and HUGE sums of $$ taken from all around the world to install her Highness Hillary.

More fake news-fueled nonsense.

Trump is by and for the rich, period. Everything he's done and said proves it.

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Friday, December 9, 2016 1:13 PM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Quote:

Originally posted by AURaptor:

If anything, Trump is showing the exact inverse of what is being portrayed. Hillary has been aiming for and building up to this election for DECADES. Deals made, promises given, and HUGE sums of $$ taken from all around the world to install her Highness Hillary.

AURaptor, you are very confused:

The two top economic policy jobs in the Trump administration will go to Goldman Sachs. Trump loudly and repeatedly denounced Goldman on the campaign trail, going so far as to argue that Goldman held “total control” over both Hillary Clinton and Ted Cruz.

It is TRUMP, not Hillary, who made deals with Wall Street in order to become President. Now it is time for TRUMP to pay Wall Street back what he owes it.

Donald Trump’s choice to run the Treasury Department, Steve Mnuchin, is a former banker at Goldman Sachs who later left to run his own hedge fund. And news reports Friday morning confirm that Goldman Sachs’s current President and Chief Operating Officer, Gary Cohn, is the leading candidate to run the National Economic Council in the Trump administration.

And yet in many ways the only surprise here should be that there is any surprise. Trump’s stated policy agenda during the 2016 campaign was and always has been a banker’s wish list, a plan to shower the financial services industry with deregulation and then help hedge funds out with a special tax cut. The divergence between the Trump show on Twitter and a hard-right governing agenda in the cabinet was always visible in the gap between Trump’s wild rally rhetoric and his sober, conventionally conservative policy speeches.

It is Trump’s greatest con game.

There is more at www.vox.com/2016/12/9/13898984/gary-cohn-goldman-sachs-trump

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Friday, December 9, 2016 7:59 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


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Originally posted by reaverfan:More fake news-fueled nonsense.


Nothing fake about it.

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Trump is by and for the rich, period. Everything he's done and said proves it.



Fair enough. But Trump is who we've known him to be. Unlike Hillary, who claims to be for the little people, while loathing them.

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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Saturday, December 10, 2016 9:01 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly


Amid all the hand-wringing over Republican plans to eviscerate Medicare and Medicaid and repeal the Affordable Care Act, it shouldn’t be overlooked that the GOP has the knives out for Social Security too.

The latest reminder comes from Rep. Sam Johnson, R-Tex., chairman of the Ways and Means Social Security subcommittee. Johnson on Thursday uncorked what he termed a “plan to permanently save Social Security.”

Followers of GOP habits won’t be surprised to learn that it achieves this goal entirely through benefit cuts, without a dime of new revenues such as higher payroll taxes on the wealthy.

Predictably, this plan has already been hailed by the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a billionaire’s front group that likes to portray itself as a neutral budget watchdog. (The foundation of hedge fund billionaire Peter G. Peterson, whose hostility to Social Security is well-documented, provided $3.3 million in funding for the committee in 2015; that’s the equivalent of about half the group’s revenue of $7.1 million in 2014)

The group calls Johnson’s proposal “a thoughtful plan” and the product of “true leadership.”

www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-social-security-gop-201
61209-story.html


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Saturday, December 10, 2016 3:20 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


What are you going to do about it? Whine some more? Carp some more? Belittle more people?


Yeah, that'll work. (not)

And ... How DID your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly? Have you got a clue yet?

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Sunday, December 11, 2016 2:36 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Horror Show.... lol.... That's amusing....

Have you been living in America as an adult the last 16 years? (Likely at least the last 24, but I wasn't an adult when Clinton was president)....

I guess my question about these RICH people Trump is putting in his cabinet, is how did they get this money? Were they selling tangible goods or less tangible but still valuable services? Or were they made by selling Policy to the highest bidder and/or Predatory Capitalism (which is BANK Capitalism and not TRUE Capitalism and is the major reason why Capitalism doesn't work like it should).



Capitalism, in a perfect world, is a system of merits. The harder you work and/or the smarter you are, the more you benefit from it.

Unfortunately, The Banks, which Hillary was in bed with, run the show. We live in a Six Sigma World where instead of being able to excel and get promoted, you are constantly re interviewing for your old job over and over every time your company gets bought out. (Thanks Motorola).


I know what I'm talking about here. At one point in my life, I was a Six Sigma "Green Belt". I never made it beyond there, and it was a mistake that anybody promoted me to that level. It takes an extra special kind of asshole to be able to do that job and be able to sleep at night.

As a Six Sigma "Belt" of any rank, you are "The Bobs" from Office Space. Two Smug Know-It-All-C-Words at the other end of the table that actually know nothing about the day to day operations of your place of employment, but interview you and ask you to defend the need not only for you as an employee, but the need for your position in general.

At the same time, as one of "The Bobs", you are taught to ALWAYS say the BAD NEWS in a GOOD way....

It's Orwellian Doublspeak Personified.

Words like "Fired" or "Layoffs" are taboo. The same concepts are to be explained in terms like "Streamlining" and "Progress". Feel Good "Go Team" Pep Rallies in front of thousands of employees who smile and chant in hopes they aren't one of the ones laid off. And the concept of the individual is to be squashed where it can be in favor of the company as a whole. "It Takes a Village", right?



After being laid off from my last good job, I went to work at KMart for 3 years since I didn't need more than that money to exist.

I actually enjoyed the work itself. By the time I was fired, I had taken on a managerial role even though I was still paid minimum wage. My overnight boss didn't mind. He was able to lock the office and sleep half the night when I was there.

I knew as much, but was given a carrot to chase in the form of a promotion that never came about. Even short of that, I just enjoyed doing what I was doing over what my job description was. I couldn't stand stocking shelves. It's not that it was beneath me, but when I was running the warehouse and doing the bigger picture things my mind was actually working. Prioritizing and planning. Using foresight and intuition to lay everything out in the best possible way in an impossibly small warehouse that was always over-full.

I put 10 miles under my feet every night. I knew every single thing everyone was working on. I knew what came off the trucks, and I knew where everything was stored in the limited space we had. Sometimes I would have to spend 30 minutes re-arranging 20 other pallets to get a single pallet that was buried full of things on sale to the front, but in the mean time I also re-arranged those 20 other pallets in the best order for the next shift.


All I'm saying is at least give Trump a chance, and unless you have any specific grievances with the people Trump is putting into power aside from money in their banks, speak about them and not how Rich they are. Don't put up "MONEY!!!!!" and get a rise out of it.

If Trump were my boss at KMART, he would have taken the time I freed up for him by doing most of his job improving other things. And I don't think he'd take all the credit for it when he was recognized for how much smoother things were going. It would have helped him to give me credit and keep me on his staff as he moved up the ranks.

Instead, my boss, who was making 70k a year, decided to take all that extra time to sleep behind a locked door. In the end under the New Management, I got fired, and two weeks after I was fired he got fired.

There was ONE thing he was really good at, as an overnight boss. He took ALL the blame when things didn't get done. Remembering how it was to be a punching bag/scapegoat, I can say that even though he slept half the time he was paid what he was owed for that. But in the end, he forgot who his only "Friends" were when the shit was hitting the fan. He didn't have my back while he was too busy saving his own ass.

What did they fire him over, 2 weeks later?

2 black guys on our night shift got into a fight. More accurately, the cowardly THUG picked up a chair and beat the new guy bloody with it on smoke break from behind.

So after working for KMART for over 12 years, why did my old manager get fired? Not for sleeping on the job.... He got fired because there was no police report and/or ambulance. That simply wouldn't have happened if I was there that night. I would have made the police call myself if I couldn't convince him to do it. He's lucky the attacked kid didn't die in the middle of the night after slipping into a coma or you could tack on Manslaughter charges to getting fired.

He was the only male manager at the store. Not even his Blackness could save him after that episode.



The old Female Store Manager LOVED me. She couldn't give me a raise or anything because the store was dying. It just couldn't be done. But I came and went as I pleased. I basically showed up whenever I felt and people were just glad to see me there at the end.

The New Female Store Manager HATED me though. She Michelle Pfifered me. "Dangerous Minds". It's no co-incidence that I was fired weeks before my manager was fired. I would have staged a revolt if he were fired before me, and people would have followed.

As it was, they cut the Balls off the snake when getting rid of me. Cutting the dick off with the only male/black manager two weeks later. Some people quit, but most stayed and were abused even worse as a reward.



So all I have to say is, Exactly how is this a horror show?

I've lost minimum wage jobs and nearly 6 figure jobs. The funny thing is that they were almost exactly the same story both times.

Both times I was fired, it was Lefty Liberal Women that fired me. Not EVIL Corporatist Bank Shills that did.

Both times I worked jobs where year after year I had glowing reviews. Both times I couldn't be fired for any merit based reasons. One company used a blanket Lay Off to get rid of me, the other one used a "crackdown" on attendance to fire me. I easily fought against their 3 attempts to deny me unemployment, and considered filing a suit against them for wrongful termination, but why put all that extra effort into getting a minimum wage job I hated back?





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Thursday, January 12, 2017 8:39 PM

JEWELSTAITEFAN


With confirmations abuzzing, no more traction for this topic?

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Friday, January 13, 2017 7:36 AM

KPO

Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.


Too much traction, JSF - and not just with his administration picks.

I'm overwhelmed with the task of recording all of the disgraces.

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Friday, January 13, 2017 7:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


And still not yet President, so your thread title is STILL wrong.



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Saturday, January 14, 2017 10:48 AM

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Saturday, January 14, 2017 5:31 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Do you watch the horrors guys?


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Saturday, January 14, 2017 7:44 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


BAD TRUMP! He should NEVER have done that to her son!

Oh ... yeah. Trump wasn't involved.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Sunday, January 15, 2017 12:51 AM

RIVERLOVE


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
BAD TRUMP! He should NEVER have done that to her son!

Oh ... yeah. Trump wasn't involved.


But the Russians were! Somehow they got to that kid. Surely another Congressional investigation is needed.

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