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Authoritarianism and Milgram's Flaws

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Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:39 PM

BYTEMITE

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Thursday, October 10, 2013 5:58 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Not the first time they did a "study" over and over, manipulating the experiment to get the "results" they wanted.

Case in point, Robbers Cave.
http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/09/war-peace-and-role-of-power-in-sherif
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The other story

What is often left out of the familiar story is that it was not the first of its type, but actually the third in a series carried out by Sherif and colleagues. The two earlier studies had rather less happy endings. In the first, the boys ganged up on a common enemy and in the second they ganged up on the experimenters themselves. How does this alter the way we look at the original Robbers Cave experiment?

Michael Billig argues that when looking at all three studies, Sherif’s work involves not just two groups but three, the experimenters are part of the system as well (Billig, 1976). In fact, with the experimenters included, it is clear they are actually the most powerful group. Much of the conflict between the two groups of boys is orchestrated by the experimenters. The experimenters have a vested interest in creating conflict between the two groups of boys. It was they who had the most to lose if the experiment went wrong, and the most to gain if it went right.


I'd have paid good money to have watched that second one!

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Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:01 PM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh, that's good news. Not that it reaffirms my belief in humanity, but it does wipe just a bit of the tarnish off. Hope it gets coverage and goes down in history, since Milgram is pretty much built into our mythology by now.


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