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Zero waste and biodegradable containers

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 10:40 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


From a Crazy Californian: Our county, and California, have been trying to lessen landfill. We were just told that, aside from sidewalk pickup of paper products, glass/metal, and yard waste, we will now be getting sidewalk pickup of compostable materials. Our first week into this, we found our garbage had decreased by 50% (now only half filling the garbage can) and our compostables account for the rest. I'm impressed, and looking forward to more steps to achieve the "zero waste by 2025" goal.
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Marin Sanitary Service (MSS) is rolling out Marin County’s first pilot residential food waste composting program to help prevent the release of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions and keep even more waste from going to the landfill.

Twenty five percent of the food prepared in the U.S. each year is thrown out – approximately 96 billion pounds. In landfills, food scraps decompose releasing methane, a GHG twenty times more potent than CO2.

“We are always working towards the goal of zero waste. This program has been a dream of ours for some time. We look forward to moving out of the pilot phase to include all of our service areas in Marin County,” said Patty Garbarino, President of MSS.

The pilot program will allow residents in the following service areas to put food scraps into their yard waste canisters starting in April: Sleepy Hollow, Oak Manor and Bolinas Ridge. The program will be rolled out in other areas over the next several months. Please look for new stickers and flyers on your yard waste canister.

MSS contracts with these cities are designed to give MSS the ability to innovate and develop new programs to drive Marin County to zero waste. If the pilot program is a success it will be expanded to include more service areas. {We were just "rolled out" last week here in San Rafael}

The collected food scraps and green waste will be ground and mixed at the Marin Resource Recovery Center. The mix will then be sent to Northern Recycling Compost in Zamora, CA, where it will be composted and then returned to MSS as “Marin’s Own” soil amendment. To increase efficiency, every measure will be taken to ensure that the transport trucks are filled in both directions.

MSS rolled out a pilot food compost program for restaurants and businesses in San Rafael in 2008. To expand into residential areas is a natural progression for MSS. Food scraps collected from businesses and restaurants are composted at MSS in a bio-cell that uses revolutionary carbon neutral in-vessel technology, which prevents the release of GHGs.

The resulting material from both ventures is an environmentally friendly nutrient-rich soil amendment. The soil amendment will be given away at MSS in May. Well-managed composting results in increased soil carbon storage, and end use of the soil amendment results in reduced demand for water, fertilizer and other soil inputs. http://www.marinsanitary.com/releases.php

Our Resource and Recovery Center is cool; they have pens of hogs, chickens, goats and others which consume waste, separate areas where you can take used oil, TVs and electronics, batteries, paint, and they sort the garbage to remove biodegradable material. This is all part of California's plan, started in 1989, to decrease landfill and non-biodegradable products. I'm sure it's not as simple as it sounds, but it's a start!
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In 2006, The Marin County Hazardous and Solid Waste Management Joint Powers Authority (JPA) passed a Zero Waste resolution on November 9, 2006 and the County of Marin joins the JPA, which represents the eleven cities and towns of Marin and the County of Marin, in adopting the goal of 80% landfill diversion by 2012 and a Zero Waste Goal by 2025.

The California Integrated Waste Management Act of 1989 (AB 939) required all California jurisdictions to achieve a landfill diversion rate of 50% by the year 2000, and to reduce, reuse, recycle; and to compost all discarded materials to the maximum extent feasible before any landfilling or other destructive disposal method is used. The County of Marin has exceeded the requirements of AB 939 and achieved a 77% diversion rate by 2004.

Strategies to reach zero waste can help to promote the over-arching goal of each generation leaving less of an ecological footprint on the earth. In 2001 the California Integrated Waste Management Board set a goal of Zero Waste in its strategic plan for the state; and cities, councils, counties, and states worldwide have adopted a goal of achieving zero waste, including the counties of San Francisco, Santa Cruz, San Luis Obispo, and Del Norte in California; the cities of Palo Alto, Oakland and Berkeley in California, Seattle in Washington, Toronto in Canada, and Canberra in Australia; and the state of New South Wales in Australia; and 45% of New Zealand’s local government councils. http://www.californiagreensolutions.com/cgi-bin/gt/tpl.h,content=297 globally, act locally"; this is to me a perfect example.

Then there's the issue of styrofoam:
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Certain to-go containers could get the heave-ho if a California bill is passed into law.

A bill has been introduced in California that would ban restaurants, grocery stores and other vendors from packaging food in non-biodegradable Styrofoam containers beginning in 2016. The bill was introduced by Democratic state Senator Alan Lowenthal in an effort to reduce litter from take-out food. Though many California cities have similar bans on the non-biodegradable containers, if passed into law this bill would be the first state-wide measure against Styrofoam in the U.S.

The California Chamber of Commerce calls the bill a "job-killer", saying that banning Styrofoam would not only cut manufacturing jobs from plants in California that produce Styrofoam, but also force many businesses to increase their costs for packaging. (Some businesses report that hot items often require two biodegradable containers so food doesn't leak through.) Other critics of the bill also point out that Styrofoam doesn't cause litter — litterers cause litter. http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/08/30/california-lawmakers-might-ban-sty
rofoam-containers/
, the Crazy Californians are at it again. It's not that simple, of course; I would like to know the cost of biodegradable packaging and how much more expensive using two of them periodically on hot food would be. Nobody is surprised the Chamber is against it, we know how closely they are affiliated with the GOP and are blind to anything but business profits. So I don't take their opposition seriously, except if they get the money and power to implement it!

Biodegradable containers aren't free of carbon footprint, either. Maybe they just have to be the first step forward, like cloth grocery bags or something, but they have their negatives:
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Biodegradable plates are typically made from bagasse, which is a material that is made from sugar cane. This is a widely available renewable and sustainable resource. Biodegradable plates made from bagasse will decompose over time and do not have the same negative impact on the environment as non-biodegradable plates and other containers.

While there are environmental benefits with biodegradable plates, food containers and plastic bags, there are also drawbacks. The fact that they are disposable means that there has been an investment in energy and resources to make an item that is only to be used once. Even if the materials are from a sustainable resource, the energy used in manufacturing, delivery to a store, delivery to a home and in waste disposal still needs to be taken into account. It could be argued that a more environmentally friendly option is resusable plates and other containers. While these may not have the flexibility and convenience of disposable items, reusable items can work out to be more cost effective as well as reduce waste. http://greenliving.lovetoknow.com/Benefits_of_Using_Biodegradable_Plat
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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 1:20 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Love it. My trash bin at home is never full on pickup day, but my recycling bin (which is over twice as large as the trash bin) is ALWAYS full at pickup time!

And at work, I take out on average two 40-gallon trash bags per week. Not bad for the amount of business we do, and I'm always trying to cut that amount down even more. We re-use boxes, we re-use packing materials, we refuse to buy styrofoam packing peanuts (we'll reuse styrofoam, but we only buy cornstarch biodegradable peanuts), I cut down all unusable boxes and put them in a corrugated recycling bin, etc. All recycling for the whole business goes home with me, because the city does curbside pickup at homes, but not at apartments or businesses (dumb, I think).

Less in the landfill is a good thing. You don't have to be a hippie tree-hugger to want a smaller city dump! (But hippie tree-huggers are the main ones actually making it happen!)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:58 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


Niki, we're starting a similar program here in my city, with a composting container for every house to be collected each week etc. I do think its good to look into biofoam containers, couldn't the current styrofoam companies start making biofoam instead, that way noone would lose jobs? I would love to see a biodegratable ziploc bag be invented. I use several ziploc bags a week and I can't think of any way around it, so it would be great if they had something like that, something that sealed, that would biodegrate. Any ideas?

I think that the more convenient the waste and trash and recycling companies make it, the more people will get into conservation and so forth.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Tuesday, August 30, 2011 4:14 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Wash out your ziplock bags and reuse them. Really, as long as you're not putting meat in them, you should be able to easily wash them with soap and water. I do this, and have been for more than 20 years. You'd be surprised how many uses you can get out of a ziplock bag.

But yes, it is amazingly easy to keep stuff out of the landfill when they're picking the recycling and composting up right at the curb. Austin isn't doing the composting stuff yet; we had our own composting cage, but I had to give it up - mice from the church behind us were using it as their own personal smorgasbord! I may be cranking it up again, since the pastor tells me they have the mice under control now.

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 7:51 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Good on YOU, Mike, that's definitely going the extra mile!

Riona, around here there are containers in front of every market where you can recycle your plastic bags--it's intended for plastic SHOPPING bags, but we put every plastic bag we ever get in there, including sandwich bags. I'm betting they get recycled along with the shopping bags...if not, since there is no other way, they can trash 'em. If they provide any other way to recycle other plastic bags, I'll go with it. Until then, this is the best we can do.

We have a huge bag hanging on the wall in the staircase, the "bag bag", where we put everything--stuff that held meat, etc., we rinse out first. When the bag is full, we haul it down to the nearest market and dump it in the container.


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 9:51 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


It's little, simple stuff, really; stuff that nobody much thinks about. I haven't bought paper plates or paper napkins in 25 years. A roll of paper towels might last me 2 or 3 months. Like you, we pretty much save all our bags - I use 'em for pooper-scoopers and for cleaning out the litter box.




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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 10:05 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Mmm, good man! Never used paper plates; paper napkins are included in our "compostables" picked up at the curb, along with paper towels and Kleenex. Which is good, because I buy paper towels and toilet paper from recycled materials, so they're admittedly not as absorbent as the usual stuff and I go through LOTS of 'em!

I use pooper-scooper bags from recycled material, and they're compostable.

Innovatons increase all the time, and there ARE those of us who make use of them. I used fabric shopping bags ages ago; our local grocery started selling them (along with about every other place on EARTH it seems--a moneymaker!), now has a sign on the front door "Did you remember your bags?", and most of the people I see in line are using them.

May the bird of paradise fly up the nose of those who want one item in each plastic bag, and want their plastic bags DOUBLED!


Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off



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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 1:49 PM

RIONAEIRE

Beir bua agus beannacht


I still love your bird of paradise curse Niki. :) What a neat idea to have a special bin for plastic bags, at my dad's house we toss all of the plastic grocery bags in the recycle, I hope they're okay with that. I should find out if my ziploc bags can be recycled too.

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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Wednesday, August 31, 2011 5:57 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by Niki2:
May the bird of paradise fly up the nose of those who want one item in each plastic bag, and want their plastic bags DOUBLED!


When I go somewhere without U-scan machines I always have to make comment to the person bagging, that they only have to make it to the car, and there to the door anyways, by all means overload the freakin bags - not like the kitty customs dept isn't gonna wreck em anyhows, although without Kallista that'll take longer, oh how she used to love diving headfirst into the empties....

Myself, Imma VERY waste-not-want-not type of person, so less overall effect here.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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