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Sunday, November 7, 2010 9:54 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Boggles the mind:
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The terrorist attacks on America on September 11, 2001, gave his administration a clear goal and him the resolve to find out who was responsible and "kick their ass," former President George W. Bush writes in his new book.

In "Decision Points," Bush describes his reaction when his then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice informed him of the crash of a third airplane into the Pentagon.

"I sat back in my seat and absorbed her words. My thoughts clarified: The first plane could have been an accident. The second was definitely an attack. The third was a declaration of war," the former president writes in his 481-page book, which goes on sale Tuesday.

"My blood was boiling. We were going to find out who did this, and kick their ass," Bush writes.

"In a single morning, the purpose of my presidency had grown clear: to protect our people and defend our freedom that had come under attack."

CNN on Friday obtained a copy of the book, being released by Crown Publishers.

In the book, Bush recounts the government response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Bush writes he also failed to "adequately communicate my concern for the victims of Katrina" -- a problem he calls one of "perception, not reality."

"Yet many of our citizens, particularly in the African-American community, came away convinced their president didn't care about them."

The former president recently told NBC's Matt Laurer that the "worst moment" of his administration was when rapper Kanye West declared during a Katrina celebrity telethon that Bush didn't care about black people. West this week expressed a sympathetic view of Bush's reaction to the comment.

In "Decision Points," Bush also details how he came to utter those infamous words "Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job" about Michael Brown, the FEMA chief who was leading the government's response to Katrina in the days immediately following the storm.

"I knew Mike was under pressure and I wanted to boost his morale," Bush writes, so he repeated Riley's words a few minutes later when he spoke to the press.

"I never imagined those words of encouragement would become an infamous entry in the political lexicon. As complaints about Mike Brown's performance mounted, especially in New Orleans, critics turned my words of encouragement into a club to bludgeon me."

Just days before the 2000 presidential election, news broke that Bush had been arrested for driving under the influence in Maine in 1976. In his memoir, Bush writes, "Not disclosing the DUI on my terms may have been the single costliest political mistake I ever made."

He says he had decided against doing so because he didn't want to undermine his admonitions to his daughters about drinking and driving.

After the news came out -- so close to election day, Bush writes, he went to bed that night on the campaign trail thinking, "I may have just cost myself the presidency."

The whole "purpose" of his Presidency was to keep us safe and defend our freedom? That's all? That would certainly explain why he did all the things to weaken our civil rights in order to "protect us". Kayne West's remark was the "worst moment" of his Presidency?!? An old DUI charge cost him the Presidency?? Sorry, but this man was truly unclear on the concept!


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:06 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Funny how you see and read only what you want.

Quote:

"In a single morning, the purpose of my presidency had grown clear: to protect our people and defend our freedom that had come under attack."


If you don't see how 9/11 changed our world, our reality , then nothing will change your mind, or get you to understand. You problably think that Nov. 22, 1963 was just another Friday in Dallas.




Quote:

"Yet many of our citizens, particularly in the African-American community, came away convinced their president didn't care about them."


It wasn't Kanye West, but the over all sentiment that so many in the black community were quick to point the finger of blame, not at themselves, or their Mayor, or their Governor, but to the President, for a natural disaster.

For Bush, it was the over all sentiment, the false belief that, because he didn't care enough for the people of N.O., which was the reason they suffered so much. If anything, he was the last person they should have been upset with.


"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:18 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Sigh...more idiocy. It wasn't the "natural disaster" that caused people to point the finger of blame, it was the RESPONSE to the natural disaser; which, by the way, Bush admitted:
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He calls the response "not only flawed" but "unacceptable," and describes his own failures in this way: "As the leader of the federal government, I should have recognized the deficiencies sooner and intervened faster. I prided myself on my ability to make crisp and effective decisions. Yet in the days after Katrina, that didn't happen. The problem was not that I made the wrong decisions. It was that I took too long to decide."
So go ahead and spin it that they were pointing the finger of blame at him (with the obvious hint that they should have pointed it elsewhere), but Bush disagrees with you.

Of COURSE 9/11 changed our world forever, to say otherwise would be stupid. But for it to become the main focus of a Presidency, over all others, isn't being a responsible President.

As to "purpose"; if he'd said "one of the purposes" or "one of the most urgent purposes" or offered ANYTHING other than "the purpose of my Presidency", I wouldn't complain. Of course it was a major purpose, but for him to think it was THE purpose is, well, indicative of his thinking.

The man had plenty of time to review and edit his book...but are you really arguing that the "worst moment" of his Presidency should have been Kayne West's reamrk?? Notice he didn't say "the feeling" or "that people felt"--he said the worst moment of his Presidency was THE REMARK. THAT would be the worst moment of his Presidency??? Duh...


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


It's New Orleans.

Everyone who knows anything about N.O. knows it's a city mostly under the sea level, and that, should any major weather event take place, things could get real bad. real quick.

EVERYONE THERE KNOWS THIS !

That's why , for generations, folks have always talked about the threat of the levees failing. That's why there were escape plans ( which were never implemented ) and evacuation procedures which
looked real good on paper, but Mayor ( chocolate city ) Nagin was completely incompetent at carrying out.

Oh, and let's not forget Gov Blanco. It was HER inaction which kept federal response teams out and delayed their setting up when they had wanted.

I can't believe, after 5 years, you still want to have this NON argument all over again.

Unfuckingbelievable.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:33 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


The world didn't change with 9/11. It's just that people who had their head stuck in the sand got an unanticipated kick in the butt.

Bush for example thought the problem of terrorism against the US was so unimportant he stopped giving the position of National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism (held by Richard Clarke) cabinet level access. This was the position that specifically dealt with al Qaeda. And George Tenet, who called an urgent meeting with Rice over what appeared to be an immediate terrorist threat (which it indeed was) was stymied by Rice, Rumsfeld and Bush.

But that's the problem with deep denial of reality - aka delusion - things happen in the real world that you don't anticipate.


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:40 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:
The world didn't change with 9/11. It's just that people who had their head stuck in the sand got an unanticipated kick in the butt.



So, you, like Rev. Wright, think the 'chickens came home to roost', do ya ?





"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:51 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"So, you, like Rev. Wright, think the 'chickens came home to roost', do ya ?"


How did you get so many things wrong in one short sentence? If you fix your mistakes I might get back to you.

The DOCUMENTED FACTS though are indisputable: Bush demoted the position of counter-terrorism and denied it access, and Bush, Rice and Rumsfeld dismissed urgent security warnings from the CIA. The only reason it was a surprise to them was b/c they closed their eyes, plugged their ears, and hummed loudly. The strange thing about reality, though, it that it doesn't go away just b/c you ignore it.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 10:55 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


1kiki -

You don't blame others for the actions that terrorists take upon innocent people.



"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:03 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Amazing, isn't it? History completely reverses itself and up is down and down is up.

Aside from 9/11's complete failure by the Bush Administration, the people in New Orleans looked to the Army Corps of Engineers to take care of those dikes, remember, which were supposed to keep them safe? Who was paying attention to the many warnings they got?
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Documents released today by Congress show that two days before Hurricane Katrina devastated New Orleans, the White House received detailed damage forecasts from Homeland Security officials predicting that the city's levees might be overtopped or breached.

Yet in the days after the storm struck on Aug. 29, federal officials, including President Bush, said the levee breaches could not have been foreseen.

The documents provided today by the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, however, showed that the federal agencies overseen by Brown and Chertoff had compiled damage forecasts for the White House at least 48 hours before the storm's landfall that predicted levee overtopping and breaches.

On Aug. 27, two days before the storm made landfall, FEMA had prepared a slide presentation for White House officials. The FEMA slides said a Category 4 storm surge "could greatly overtop levees and protective systems." It's unclear who at the White House received this briefing or how its contents were distributed afterward.

Hours before the storm made landfall, the White House Situation Room received a report prepared by the Department of Homeland Security in which experts predicted flooding "could leave the New Orleans metro area submerged for weeks or months." The report also said that hurricane damage could cost $10 billion to $14 billion.

At a hearing today, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., said the White House has maintained a "refusal to answer" stance regarding questions and document requests by congressional investigators looking at the federal government's response to Katrina.

Brown has said that he notified the White House of his concerns about the storm on the weekend before it struck. Lieberman said that in a meeting with congressional investigators yesterday, Brown was advised by agency lawyers not to answer specific questions about whether he'd spoken to Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney in the days leading up to the storm.
Congressional investigators aren't the only ones facing difficulties in receiving information from the federal government. The National Science Foundation study researchers have encountered delays in receiving documents from the Army Corps of Engineers relevant to their review of the levee breaches.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=1537584

In both cases, they just weren't listening.




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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:19 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ahh, 9/11. You sure you want to go there?
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The Bush administration may hesitate to give Arab allies public credit, but Washington investigators should consider warnings that at least two friendly Arab intelligence services sent to Washington just weeks before the Sept. 11 attacks.

Jordan, beyond a doubt, and Morocco, with some certainty, advised US and allied intelligence that Osama bin Laden's Al Qaeda terrorists were preparing airborne terrorist operations in the continental United States.

(details at http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0523/p11s01-coop.html )
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Two years before the Sept. 11 attacks, an analysis prepared for U.S. intelligence warned that Osama bin Laden's terrorists could hijack an airliner and fly it into government buildings like the Pentagon.

"Suicide bomber(s) belonging to al Qaeda's Martyrdom Battalion could crash-land an aircraft packed with high explosives (C-4 and semtex) into the Pentagon, the headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or the White House," the September 1999 report said.

The Bush administration has asserted that no one in government had envisioned a suicide hijacking before it happened.

One more time then. In August of 2001, after putting the fight against terrorism on the back burner, after being warned by Clinton experts about the danger of Osama, after ignoring the Hart-Rudman report on the urgent need to combat terrorism ( http://www.buzzflash.com/interviews/03/08/04_hart.html), after delegating the formulation of a plan to fight terror to Dick Cheney (who was too busy conducting his secret energy meetings with energy company execs and lobbyists, meetings that included an examination of Iraq's oil fields), after receiving a briefing that alerted him to likely imminent Al-Qaeda hijackings, Bush did nothing: NOTHING

http://www.buzzflash.com/editorial/04/03/edi04020.html

This isn't worth any more time. Rebisionist history will only work when all those who lived through the experiences are dead.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:25 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!



Niki, you ignorant slut.

The levee system was inadequate FROM THE BEGINNING, a fact which was confirmed by the LSU engineering study, after Katrina.

Quote:

...the White House received detailed damage forecasts from Homeland Security officials predicting that the city's levees might be overtopped or breached.


The folks who weren't listening were the residents, the mayor and the gov of LA.

I'm not having this argument all over again.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 11:33 AM

KANEMAN


I was wondering when you were going to lose your cool.....Well done. Why even debate that old hag? Like Kwicko she is stuck on stupid.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 1:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


"You don't blame others for the actions that terrorists take upon innocent people."

You seem to think that my point was that the US was to 'blame' and 'deserved' to be attacked, something that you are repeating after your 'chickens coming home to roost' comment. (Which I may add was hysterically off target AND mis-attributed as well.)

I am not doing that. I am pointing out that BUSH and HIS administration repeatedly failed in THEIR duty. My point was that there was an ongoing terrorist threat - evidenced by repeated terrorist attacks on US interests abroad and on home soil (9/11 was the SECOND terrorist attack on the WTC, remember?), and by intelligence reports of 'chatter' - which Bush and his administration purposefully and repeatedly ignored.

The world didn't 'change' with 9/11, it carried on regardless of anyone's delusions. And anyone who thinks it 'changed' is wrong.

The idea that I'm blaming the US for the actions of the terrorists is a fiction which you have in your head.

Also, you seem fixated on blame, rather than cause and effect. You need to fix that.

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Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:47 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


Quote:

Originally posted by 1kiki:

Also, you seem fixated on blame, rather than cause and effect. You need to fix that.



And you seem to legitimizing the terrorist's action w/ this fictitious claim of 'cause and effect'. It's pure crap.

YOU need to fix THAT.

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Sunday, November 7, 2010 5:03 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.


Rap, Rap, Rap

The CAUSE I was thinking of was the ignoring of evidence that terrorism was a viable threat. The EFFECT of that was to miss knowing ahead of time about the 9/11 attack.

How you got anything about me justifying the attack out of any part of any of my posts is a mystery to me. I can only suppose the voices in your head told you so, b/c it certainly isn't in anything I posted.

But then, you being a deluded fact-denier and all, pointing out the FACT that it wasn't in my posts is only going to make you crawl into your delusion even deeper. But, that's OK with me. I have no particular concern with your well being.

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Monday, November 8, 2010 2:25 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


Speaking of Bush's book, how would you like to be the editor on that word-salad, trying to slog your way through the oatmeal-brained ramblings and incoherence, trying to sort it all out and make some kind of sense of it? Does Bush stammer and stutter when he writes, too? How many times did they have to go back to him and ask, "What is this word supposed to be? You do realize that this isn't an actual WORD, right?"


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


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Monday, November 8, 2010 5:24 AM

KANEMAN


Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
Speaking of Bush's book, how would you like to be the editor on that word-salad, trying to slog your way through the oatmeal-brained ramblings and incoherence, trying to sort it all out and make some kind of sense of it? Does Bush stammer and stutter when he writes, too? How many times did they have to go back to him and ask, "What is this word supposed to be? You do realize that this isn't an actual WORD, right?"


The modern definition of "socialist" is anyone who's winning an argument against a tea-bagger.

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.




Not sure, but I do think he knows how many states there are.....

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Saturday, March 20, 2021 3:08 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


sombrero bush wants to give US citizenship to illegals?

George W Bush attacks Trump supporters

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?553156-War-Criminal-George
-W-Bush-attacks-Trump-supporters

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Saturday, March 20, 2021 7:36 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


Andrew Cuomo’s new lawyer is a high-powered ex-Obama and Bush prosecutor

https://nypost.com/2021/03/20/andrew-cuomos-lawyer-is-high-powered-ex-
obama-and-bush-prosecutor
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Sunday, March 21, 2021 2:41 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Why all the irrelevant necroposting? I understand it when an old topic becomes relevant again, but this hardly seems on-point.

Quote:

AURaptor's Greatest Hits:

Friday, September 24, 2010
I hate Obama's America. You're damn right about that.


Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.


Well, as it turns out, Obama WAS a god damn mother fucking cock sucking community activist piece of shit!

Auraptor was right about that.

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If we did not MAKE men poor - William Blake

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.

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Monday, September 13, 2021 11:39 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Neo-Liberals Cheered little jnr George Bush's Speech Because They Hate their Own people and Want a Domestic War?

The Little Bush Jnr continues to kiss the anus of the islamist jihadi terrorist, he Delights Regressive Neo-Leftwing Democrats, Infuriates others with a Veiled Jan. 6, 9/11 Comparison saying Jan was worse than the Collapse of the WTC and almost 3000 innocent Deaths?

The Neo-Cons and Neo-Left are one and the same?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/11/former-president-bush-likens-us-extrem
ists-to-foreign-terrorists.html


https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/w-bush-just-compared-jan-
6-to-911/98266644
/

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/george-w-bush-september-11/

Bush warns of danger from Yoga Mom terrorists, Q-Anon posts and Patriots with US Flags on 9/11 anniversary

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Monday, September 13, 2021 7:48 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Bush can go right back to shutting the fuck up again.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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