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Obama sorry for 1940s tests in Guatemala (un-PN)

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Friday, October 1, 2010 9:50 PM

DMAANLILEILTT


From Ninemsn:
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President Barack Obama has personally apologised to his Guatemalan counterpart for a US-led study conducted in the 1940s, in which hundreds of people in the Latin American state were deliberately infected with sexually-transmitted diseases.

In a phone conversation with Guatemalan President Alvaro Colom, Obama expressed his deep regret for the experiment conducted by US public health researchers in Guatemala between 1946 and 1948, and apologised "to all those affected".

The US president also vowed that all human medical studies conducted today will be held to exacting US and international legal and ethical standards.

"This is shocking, it's tragic, it's reprehensible," White House spokesman Robert Gibbs told reporters, adding to apologies and outrage voiced by the president, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Health Secretary Kathleen Sebelius and other US officials.

In an impromptu news conference in Guatemala on Friday, Colom denounced the study as "a crime against humanity", and said he had learned of the gruesome years-long experiment in the phone call from Clinton.

Clinton had phoned Colom on Thursday to express her personal outrage and deep regret over the "reprehensible research".

"What happened all those years ago is a crime against humanity and the government reserves the right to lodge a formal legal complaint over it," Colom said.

But almost immediately, he backed off his tough talk, saying: "We are aware that this is not the policy of the United States... this happened so long ago."

Clinton and Sebelius said in a joint statement on Friday that the study was "clearly unethical" and apologised to all those who had been affected by it.

Francis Collins, director of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the US government body that funded the study, called it "deeply disturbing" and "an appalling example in a dark chapter in the history of medicine".

Senator Robert Menendez, a member of the congressional Hispanic caucus, called the experiments in Guatemala one of the "darkest moments" in US history.

"No innocent fellow human should be treated as a lab rat, no matter your nationality," Menendez said.

The study, which was never published, came to light this year after Wellesley College professor Susan Reverby stumbled upon archived documents outlining the 1940s experiment led by controversial US public health doctor John Cutler.

Cutler and his fellow researchers enrolled people in Guatemala, including mental patients, for the study, which aimed to find out if penicillin, relatively new in the 1940s, could be used to prevent sexually transmitted diseases.

"There is no evidence study participants gave informed consent, and in fact... the subjects were often deceived about what was being done to them," Collins told reporters as he outlined the experiment's most flagrant ethics violations.

The US doctor behind the Guatemala study, Cutler, was also involved in a highly controversial study known as the Tuskegee Experiment in which hundreds of African American men with late-stage syphilis were observed given no remedial treatment for 40 years, between 1932 and 1972.

Initially, the researchers infected female commercial sex workers with gonorrhea or syphilis, and then allowed them to have unprotected sex with soldiers or prison inmates.

"When few of these men became infected, the research approach changed to direct inoculation of soldiers, prisoners and mental hospital patients," background documents on the study show.

A total of some 1,500 people took part in the study. At least one patient died during the experiments, although it is not clear whether the death was from the tests or from an underlying medical problem.

The US surgeon general in the 1940s, Thomas Parran, appeared to have been aware of the experiment, as were "components" of the Guatemalan government at the time, said Collins.

The Pan American Health Organisation, whose predecessor, the Pan American Sanitary Bureau, received grant money from the NIH for the study, expressed its "deep regrets for past ethics violations" and vowed to cooperate with investigators as they dig out specifics of the study.

Independent experts under the umbrella of the US Institute of Medicine will conduct a fact-finding probe of the Guatemala study, and the US Presidential Commission for the Study of Bioethical Issues will convene international experts to review standards surrounding human medical research, Collins said.

I'm wondering how certain people will interpret this to be a part of a huge Jewish conspiracy or just a fake-out apology.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 2:01 AM

USBROWNCOAT


I am so glad Obama has personally apoligised, Now if he had only been born at the time....It may have meant something to the Guatemalan people.

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 2:45 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!


He'll apologize for things he had no part in, but not apologize for straddling this nation with more debt than all other Presidents combined ?

Glad we owned up to it, I suppose, but how soon until the first lawsuit is filed, and we're having to dish out reparations to the survivors ( or those claiming to be )....

"The modern definition of 'racist' is someone who is winning an argument with a liberal."


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Saturday, October 2, 2010 3:01 AM

WHOZIT


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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
I am so glad Obama has personally apoligised, Now if he had only been born at the time....It may have meant something to the Guatemalan people.

I would have been better if he had become a stain on his parents bed sheets.



Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 3:10 AM

DMAANLILEILTT


Our PM wasn't around during the Stolen Generations but the apology still meant something to the Aboriginals.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 6:27 AM

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COPsec...

US 'sorry' over deliberate sex infections in Guatemala
Billary Rotten Clinton Blythe Rockefeller 'apologizes' for getting caught, nobody arrested
Governor Clinton allowed HIV blood to be sold from Arkansas prisons
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11454789

Big Bro intentionally infected/innoculated sheeple with STDs, including HIV AIDS.

Quote:

"We believe that within a period of five to ten years, it would be possible to produce a synthetic biological agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired. Within the next five to ten years, it would probably be possible to make a new infective microorganism which could be different in certain important aspects from any known disease-causing organism. Most importantly, it might be damaging to the immunological and therapeutic processes upon which we depend to maintain our relative freedom from infectious disease. A research program to explore feasibility could be completed in approximately five years at a cost of $10 million. It is a highly controversial issue and there are many who believe such research should not be undertaken, lest it lead to yet another method of mass killing of large populations."
—Dr. Donald MacArthur, RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION, Department of the Army, Statement of Director, Advanced Research Project Agency, Statement of Director, Defense Research and Engineering, SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENTS HOUSE BILL 15090, UNITED STATES SENATE LIBRARY, U.S. GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE, Department of Defense Appropriations for 1970. Hearings before a Subcommittee of the APPROPRIATIONS HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, Ninety-First Congress, first session, July 1, 1969, testimony on June 9, 1969 (FULL TEXT HTML -- JPG Image Scan of HB 15090)
www.umoja-research.com/aids_murder_docs.htm
http://community-2.webtv.net/LikingLArry/IsTheAIDSVirusMan/

"PATHOGENIC MYCOPLASMA - The invention relates to a novel pathogenic mycoplasma isolated from patients with Aquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome (AIDS) or patients dying from diseases and symptoms resembling AIDS diseases. The invention further relates to a variety of vaccinations against mycoplasma infection in humans and/or animals."
—United States Patent, US Patent Office, Patent Number 5,242,820, Inventor Stryh-Cheng Lo and American Registry of Pathology in Washington DC, Filed June 6, 1991, continuation date June 18, 1986
www.gulfwarvets.com/mycoplas.htm

"The true history of the origin of AIDS can be traced throughout the 20th Century and back to 1878. Two years later, in 1889, we were able to identify 'mycoplasmas', a transmissible agent, that is now found at the heart of human diseases, including (AIDS) HIV. In 1893, we strengthened the Federal Quarantine Act and suddenly there was an explosion of polio. In 1898, we knew we could use mycoplasma to cause epidemics, because we were able to do so in cattle, and we saw it in tobacco plants. In 1899, the U.S. Congress began investigating 'leprosy [mycoplasma] in the United States'. In 1902, We organized a 'Station for Experimental Evolution' and we were able to identify diseases of an ethnic nature. In 1904, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in horses. On April 29 of that year the United States passed a 'FEDERAL QUARANTINE ACT'. In 1910, we used mycoplasma to cause an epidemic in fowl/birds. In 1917, we formed the 'Federation of the American Society for Experimental Biology' (FASEB). In 1918, the influenza virus killed millions of unsuspecting. It was a flu virus modified with a bird mycoplasma for which human primates had no 'acquired immunity'. In 1921, lead eugenics philosopher, Betrand Russell, publicly supported the 'necessity for "organized' plagues" against the Black population. In 1931, we secretly tested African Americans and we tested AIDS in sheep. In 1935, we learned we could crystallize the tobacco mycoplasma, and it would remain infectious. In 1943, we officially began our bio-warfare program. Shortly thereafter, we were finding our way to New Guinea to study mycoplasma in humans. In 1945, we witnessed the greatest influx of foreign [NAZI and Japanese] scientists in history into the U.S. biological program. Operation Paperclip will live in infamy as one of the darkest programs of a twisted parallel government fixated on genocide. In 1949, Dr. Bjorn Sigurdsson isolates the VISNA virus. Visna is man made and shares some 'unique DNA' with HIV. In 1955, they were able to artificially assemble the tobacco mosaic virus. Mycoplasmas will forever be at the heart of the U.S. biological warfare program. In 1957, future U.S. president, Rep Gerald Ford and others gave the U.S. Pentagon permission to aggressively deploy offensive biological agents. There are no recorded cases of AIDS prior to the 1957 creation of 'Special Operation-X.' (The SOX) program served as the immediate prototype program for the Special Virus program to begin in 1962. By 1960, Nikita Kruschev had been let in on the biological weapon. His 1960 statement will long reflect the arrogance of the secret blend of communism and democracy. The two countries would go to a November 1972 agreement to cull the Black Population. Progress Report # 8 at 104 - 106 proves Dr. Robert Gallo was secretly working on the development of AIDS with full support of the sector of the U.S. government that seeks to kill its citizens. Dr. Gallo [awarded the Nobel Prize for 'discovering' the 'HIV/AIDS virus' in 1984] can not explain why he excluded his role as a 'project officer' for the Special Virus program from his biographical book. Dr. Gallo's early work and discoveries will finally be viewed in relation to the flowchart. We now know where every experiment fits into the flowchart. The 'research logic' is irrefutable evidence of a federal "Manhattan-style project" to develop a 'contagious' cancer that 'selectively' kills. Dr. Gallo's 1971 paper is identical to his 1984 AIDS announcement. Progress Report #8 at 273 - 286 proves we gave AIDS to monkeys. Since 1962, the United States and Dr. Robert Gallo have been inoculating monkeys and re-releasing them back into the wild. Thus, even government scientists are baffled that both HIV-1 and HIV-II would 'suddenly emerge' from two distinct monkey ancestral relatives during the last 100 years. A 1999 Japanese study will ultimately prove the Man to Monkey origin of Monkey AIDS. The monkey experiments summary definitively proves Monkey AIDS is also man-made. In 1972, the United States and the Soviet Union entered into a biological agreement that would signal the death knell for the Black Population. The 1972 agreement for collaboration and cooperation in the development of offensive biological agents is still U. S. policy. In 1973, we find that world scientist, Garth Nicolson reports on his project, 'Role of the Cell Surface in Escape From Immunological Surveillance.' His report is accompanied by seven published papers. Dr. Nicolson worked in conjunction with the Special Virus program from 1972 until 1978. Dr. Nicolson is considered by some to be Dr. Gallo's "West Coast" counterpart. It is strongly held that because of Dr. Nicolson, Dr. Robert Gallo and Dr. Luc Montagnier would secretly meet in Southern California to coordinate what they would and would not say about the special virus development program. In 1974, Furher Henry Kissinger releases his NSSM-200 (U.S. Plan to Address Overpopulation). It is the only issue of discussion at the World Population Conference in Bucharest, Romania.  The men in the shadows had won, the whole world agrees to secretly cull Africa's population. Today it is Africa and other undesirables. Tomorrow it may be you. In 1975, President Gerald Ford signs National Security Defense Memorandum #314. The United States implements the Kissinger NSSM-200. In 1977, Dr. Robert Gallo and the top Soviet Scientists meet to discuss the proliferation of the 15,000 gallons of AIDS. They attach AIDS as complement to the Small pox vaccine for Africa, and the 'experimental' hepatitis B vaccine for Manhattan. According to authors June Goodfield and Alan Cantwell, it is Batch #751 that was administered in New York to thousands of innocent people. Soon there will be no more Black people and a confused military, older White people will start suddenly dying and you still won't get it. Be here now for us, give us a chance to be there for you. Suddenly, just as President Nixon had predicted, there was explosive death. On September 28, 1998 I filed suit against the United States for the 'creation', 'production' and 'proliferation' of AIDS. On November 7, 2000, the appeals court agreed with the lower court and held AIDS bioengineering as 'frivolous' [appealed to US Supreme Court]. The world continues to wait for the court to rule on the resubmitted issues. The court can not continue to simply brush aside our experts and the government's flowchart. I have been asked to give my perspective with regard to the federal program MK-NAOMI . MK-NAOMI is the code for the development of AIDS. The 'MK' portion stands for the two co-authors of the AIDS virus, Robert Manaker and Paul Kotin. The 'NAOMI' portion stands for 'Negroes are Only Momentary Individuals.' Our society is structured to hide crimes committed by the state, while punishing citizens for minor indiscretions. Their strategy focuses on the general confusion they can create via manipulation of the media. They are very good at what they do. We must become more focused in our continued presentation of the flowchart. The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses. We have found the origin of AIDS, it is us."
—Boyd E. Graves, J.D., attorney-at-law, graduate US Naval Academy at Annapolis, The History of the Development of AIDS, Chapter Excerpt from "State Origin: The Evidence of the Laboratory Birth of AIDS"
www.boydgraves.com/timeline/
www.aidsbiowar.com
www.tetrahedron.org
www.whale.to/m/scott7.html

Israeli method of curing AIDS with tetrasilver tetroxide molecular crystal devices, United States Patent 5676977 (now censored in USA)
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5676977.html


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Saturday, October 2, 2010 4:04 PM

DMAANLILEILTT


Ah, there he is. I wish I had that "wall-o'-text" thing.

"I really am ruggedly handsome, aren't I?"

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Saturday, October 2, 2010 4:32 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by whozit:
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Originally posted by USBrowncoat:
I am so glad Obama has personally apoligised, Now if he had only been born at the time....It may have meant something to the Guatemalan people.

I would have been better if he had become a stain on his parents bed sheets.



Those arn't boobs, they're lies! - Stewie Griffin




You would have been better?

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