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iPhone kills people and causes men to attack shcoolchildren

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:49 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Well, not exactly.... but I thought I'd try a PN-style title. Did I succeed?

The factories in China which make iPhone and iPads have had a very high number of suicides. China, which makes its citizens available as cheap labor to capitalist corporations, is re-creating the very conditions it originally sought to overcome. As the Chinese government slowly merges goals with capitalism, the hand-in glove relationship between government and capitalism morphs into fascism.

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The massive Foxconn factory in the southern Chinese city of Shenzhen is known for assembling famous electronic goods like Apple's iPhone and iPad. But in recent months it has gained a darker image, as a place where distraught workers regularly throw themselves to their deaths. The latest fatality came on Tuesday morning, when a 19-year-old employee died in a fall in the company's Shenzhen compound, according to the state-run Xinhua news service. He was the ninth worker this year to have died in a fall from factory buildings on Foxconn's properties in Shenzhen; two have survived suicide attempts, according to state-media reports. Another teenager, who the company revealed this month died after jumping from a company building in Hebei province in January, brings the total employee death toll from falls to 10 this year.

The string of deaths has drawn attention to the labor practices of a highly successful Fortune 500 company that has 420,000 workers on its payroll in Shenzhen alone.

Now THAT'S a big factory! Hell, that's four times bigger than the city I live in!
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Two dozen activists protested outside the company's Hong Kong offices on Tuesday, calling on Foxconn to improve working conditions and raise wages. The Taiwan-owned company, which is an arm of the Hon Hai Group, has defended the treatment of its workers. "A lot of things cannot be said at this point, but we are quietly doing our job," CEO Terry Gou told a business forum on Monday. With over 900,000 employees globally in the Hon Hai Group, Gou acknowledged the difficulties of employee management. "But," he said, "we are confident we will get things under control shortly."

Working conditions at Foxconn's factories have been under scrutiny for years. The attention was heightened in 2009 when 25-year-old employee Sun Danyong, who had been accused by management of losing an iPhone prototype, jumped to his death from his apartment in Shenzhen. Chinese press reports said Sun, who grew up in a poor village in Yunnan province and attended the top-rated Harbin Institute of Technology, might have been physically abused by company security guards searching for the missing device.

Like Sun, the Foxconn workers who died this year have all been young, ranging in age from 18 to 24. The cases all differ, but there are common themes.... The dead have all been migrant workers, and for many Foxconn was their first job. The company pays most of its assembly-line workers in Shenzhen the city's minimum wage of $130 a month, and many work significant overtime hours in order to maximize their incomes. "The work [at Foxconn] is long, monotonous and boring," says Liu Kaiming, a labor researcher and executive director of the Shenzhen-based Institute of Contemporary Observation. "The speed is very fast and you can't slow down, for 10 hours a day at the minimum. You can see how someone could easily become numb and turn into a machine."

After hours, many workers live in on-site dormitories, where heavy staff turnover makes long-lasting personal connections impossible. That combination - long workdays and a minimal social safety net - leaves vulnerable young workers with few places to turn, says Liu. "Foxconn has 420,000 people; in the U.S. that would be a big city. Even in China that would be a big city, but it's a city without any families. Everyone is working. They live in a dormitory for seven months and don't know their own roommates' names."

In 1999, the most recent year for which numbers are available, China reported its national suicide rate was 13 men and 14.8 women out of every 100,000 people. That would put the suicide rate at Foxconn below that of the population as a whole, though a lack of newer statistics makes a comparison difficult. Suicides at factories in southern China have not been uncommon over the past decade, says Liu, but in recent years improvements in telecommunications like the proliferation of mobile phones have made it easier for workers to disseminate information about deaths. And given the size and prominence of Foxconn, and its famous clients such as Apple, Sony, HP and Dell, the suicides at its Shenzhen manufacturing center have earned the company significant unwanted attention in recent weeks.

Foxconn says it has provided social options like libraries and sports for its workers

Which nobody has time to take advantage of
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, and recently has prevented many more attempted suicides.
SO the suicide rate would have been even higher??? Double? Triple?
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But labor activists argue it needs to make more fundamental changes, like paying higher wages so that workers don't feel forced to work so many overtime hours.
No shit, Sherlock!
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In mid-May the Chinese newspaper Southern Weekend ran a story by a young reporter who spent a month working undercover at the factory. Liu Zhiyi wrote that the workers all dreamed of wealth, but felt that they had few opportunities outside the company. The workplace wasn't a sweatshop, Liu wrote, but the assembly-line work slowly dehumanized the employees. "It seems as if while they operate the machines, the machines also operate them," the story said. "Parts flow by, and their youth is worn down to the rhythm of the machines."


Perhaps this is part of the reason why there are so many attacks on children in China: people feel caught up in a huge system over which they have no control.

This story reminds me SO much of Young Rissa.


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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 5:55 AM

BYTEMITE


Your title did work. :)

The biggest problem I'm seeing here, even more than the wages/overtime issue, is "migrant worker." That's what the company sees these people as, it's going to be tough to pressure them to increase wages for people they consider temporary and have no job security.

That will also add a lot of stress to the workers, and if they don't have many other opportunities (or maybe better ones), if they run into complications, what use is it for them to try the same thing somewhere else? That's the worker mentality.

Also heard something hypothesized... How many of the suicides are men? All of them, I bet. Country doesn't have enough women for the men. Maybe basic survival instincts aren't being fulfilled.

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 12:12 PM

FREMDFIRMA



Hmm, good ole company store tricks - I wonder if anyone down at the IWW knows someone who speaks Chinese... especially if they're cute and female.
(yep, push ALL the buttons, you know it.)

And before anyone points out that one could get executed for union organising, lemme point out in counter that it happened *here* just as often, up to and including being bombed by the US Air Force.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

-F

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Wednesday, May 26, 2010 3:58 PM

DREAMTROVE


Very pirate newsy.

Communists were trying to overcome this? I think not. I think this is exactly who they always were. Hell, its far better than they ever were

Still, they're part of the problem here. There's a decent chance that the guy was assassinated. I read a story a few weeks ago on this, he misplaced a prototype, or sold it more like, and so the company complained to the chinese govt whenever Beijing has to handle a problem, they do it by making an example of someone.

Overall, I'm not at all convinced that Foxconn is evil, but they're definitely getting worse, there have been accusations of docking pay, punishments, imprisoning workers, its getting out of control. A large number of things come from Foxconn, including this ipad and my kindle. I don't know if they need a union, maybe what they need is just basic labor laws.

You know that it's just a count down until Foxconn starts making things under it's own name and totally takes over our electronics industry, or perhaps japans. This is all fallout from the takeover of Taiwan. Message to all future imperialists: don't annex anyone more powerful than yourselves. Its just a bad idea.

Anyway good PN headline

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Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:18 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


400,000 workers, 20 suicides per year...about the same # of US soldiers who suicide every day. 399,981 to go.




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Thursday, May 27, 2010 6:42 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Overall, I'm not at all convinced that Foxconn is evil, but they're definitely getting worse, there have been accusations of docking pay, punishments, imprisoning workers, its getting out of control.



Who the hell do they think they are? WALMART?!

Isn't this exactly the kind of worker treatment that libertarians support? No minimum wage, no workers' rights, no overtime, etc. China should be seen as the end result of the libertarian ideal in regards to workplace security and employee treatment.

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Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:01 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


There's 2 kinds of "Libertarians":

1. The corporate multinational defense lawyers

2. Everybody Else

The Libertarian Party was founded by jew Aaron Russo, who was assassinated by his trillionaire "buddy" Little Nickie Rockefeller.

Libertarian Party refused to nominate Ron Paul after GOPsters refused to count RP's votes winning 2 states.

Ron Paul was in the process of founding the Tea Party when They gave him An Offer He Can't Refuse. It must have included his son in some manner, dead or alive.


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Friday, May 28, 2010 1:34 AM

DREAMTROVE


Mike

You're a libertarian


John

TPTB like the kids of stars because the sheeple don't know the dif between famous parents and their kids, and the kids are much more malleable. That's why we had George W Putty for eight years.

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