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In defense of 'San Francisco Values'

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UPDATED: Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:00
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Thursday, May 13, 2010 5:01 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


It's Mark Morford again, but in this case, I agree with almost EVERYTHING he says, so here it is:
Quote:

So I'm skimming like a mud puddle Jesus through another hunk of grammatically wretched hate mail, kindly informing me that both I and the city in which I live are godless, stinky insults to all humanity (yawn), that all of us here in Perverted Pelosiville are depraved sickos due in no small part to our pathetic liberal values (zzzz), our lack of openly displayed firearms and our obvious adoration of terrorists, immigrants, communism, anal sex, artisan coffee, organic produce and, of course, organic analterrorist sexcoffee.

All told, it's a rather uninspired, typically brainless hunk of Tea Party-grade spittle, true 2nd grade stuff that's nowhere near as nasty as some of the hate mail I used to get back in the 00's BAC (Before Anonymous Commenting) -- the absolute finest examples of which, by the way, I've included in my book, "The Daring Spectacle." It's something to see.

But this time, because this message keeps trumpeting the same old childish cliches about San Francisco in particular and blue state values in general, it caused me to actually do something I haven't done since Glenn Beck was knee-high to a crocodile tear...

I paused. Just before I hit the delete key, I actually stopped and wondered: What would happen if I did something I simply never do, and actually tried to engage this person, just a little, to speak to him with reason and tact, try to show him some facts and actual data, recent studies and long-term reports that prove, once again and for the 100th time, that the infamous "blue state" values -- particularly those about family and family structure -- that they so fear and abhor are, well, actually some of the most stable and healthiest in the country?

What if I were to trot out the irrefutable stats about, say, education levels, or teen pregnancy rates, or abortion? How about college graduation rates, marriage stability, or even adoption? What about general health? Obesity? What if I were to casually mention, with sufficient factual backup, how blue states tend to trounce nearly every red state across the board in these key markers?

Would it matter? Would the spittle-flecked bipeds who write to me (or comment down below) and misspell "commy" and "sodimite" listen or care in the slightest? I already know the answer.

But I paused on this piece of mail because I had just finished a fine article that discussed a new book, "Red Families v. Blue Families: Legal Polarization and the Creation of Culture," written by a pair of typical elitist academic types the Tea Party crowd is so scared of (we hippies call these types "professors") detailing, in essence, how the "family values" that the red states so desperately cling to like drowning monkeys are exactly the ones that are undermining and sabotaging family stability in the first place. In other words, "family values" are the bane of family values. Did you already know? Of course you did.

Examples? Legion. You've probably already read about teen pregnancy rates in relation to religious belief (ref: this terrific piece from the New Yorker). It's a simple enough equation: the more religiously conservative a given state is, the more it's guaranteed to be lacking in quality sex education, easy access to -- and information about -- contraception and women's health, and the more it tends to wallow in fear of sex, the body and the stickier dynamics of human relationships.

Upshot: As the strict, antiquated religious codes of these states fail -- as they have for millennia -- a far higher number of those states' sad, uninformed teenaged girls get knocked up, marry far too young, get divorced, never get a real education, earn low wages and generally contribute to every unpleasant and downward spiraling statistic in America, right along with the slumpy males. Yay family values!

Check it: "Six of the seven states with the lowest divorce rates in 2007, and all seven with the lowest teen birthrates in 2006, voted blue in both elections. Six of the seven states with the highest divorce rates in 2007, and five of the seven with the highest teen birthrates, voted red."

With numbers like that, it's hard not to shudder in frustration, hit with an urge to hurl this information all over Fox News and the fundamentalist lintballs from the far right.

Let's pose it this way: Do you want a stable family, low divorce rate, low abortion rate, low teen pregnancy, an emphasis on intelligence, maturity and higher education? Would you like to more fully engage in the information economy, get a good job with high wages, live healthier and more spiritually free? Don't move to Alaska, or Kansas, or Texas, or any of the states so wildly drunk on "family values," silly. You go blue all the way. I mean, isn't it obvious?

(Did I mention how San Francisco was just rated the leanest city in the nation by Men's Health magazine, an admittedly mindless ranking, but still somewhat telling, especially considering Texas is home to five of the fattest cities on Earth? It's true. San Francisco is looking damn good in those jeans. Though that's probably just because we get the best cocaine and MDMA. Shhh.)

Of course, the instant I considered sending the depressed haters of me, you, this city, all "blue state" values a link to this or any of the other fine articles detailing the utter failure and bassackwardness of conservative "family values" mindsets, I just laughed and sighed and reached for my mug of analterrorist sexcoffee, remembering quite well my own hard-fought advice, dispersed not long ago.

It was a column titled, if you will, "How to talk to complete idiots" (also featured in the book, btw), which details the tragic failure of facts, science and research in the face of those real red state values, such as hysteria, alarmism and a childlishly literal interpretation of wonky Christian mythology.

But it gets better: Because even if they accept the data as partly true, the typical red state reaction is to argue that the real reason teen pregancy, abortion, divorce and so on are far worse in the "family values" states is not because the rules and religions are flawed and outdated, but because they aren't being enforced strictly enough. And for that, they blame ... you guessed it ... the liberals.

Ah, disingenuous doublethink. It's a family value.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/g/a/2010/05/12/notes05121
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"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 6:33 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Bump: What, no righties indignant about this? What's wrong with you guys?


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:08 AM

STORYMARK


If they don't acknowledge it, they can pretend it never existed in the first place.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:46 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Oh. Well, that's a bummer! You're right, of course, but I thought it was good and was hoping for some sort of amusing response. Oh well, will look elsewhere for my morning's giggle...sigh...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 7:59 AM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!



San Francisco family values of human sacrifice at jewish Bohemian Grove

Homosexual Bohemian Club in San Francisco
www.google.com/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=bohemian+grove

Quote:

"You know what happened to the Romans? The last six Roman emperors were fags. Neither in a public way. You know what happened to the popes? They were layin' the nuns; that's been goin' on for years, centuries. But the Catholic Church went to hell three or four centuries ago. It was homosexual, and it had to be cleaned out. That's what's happened to Britain. It happened earlier to France. Let's look at the strong societies. The Russians. Goddamn, they root 'em out. They don't let 'em around at all. The upper class in San Francisco is that way. The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time--it is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine, with that San Francisco crowd. I can't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco." [because they hold each other's penises while they stand naked and urinate on the giant redwood trees]
-President Richard Nixon, White House audiotapes
www.prisonplanet.com/032604nixontape.html

Snuff Kiddie Porn and Cannibalism at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=6497462494231069386
http://one.revver.com/watch/248515

UNDERCOVER VIDEO: Dark Secrets Inside Bohemian Grove and The Order of Death
http://www.archive.org/details/DSIBG
http://www.lastingnetworks.com/alex/
http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html

Boners at Bohemian Grove
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2740234893142263113
http://garageband.com/artist/countercoup

Moloch.
an ancient Phoenician and Ammonite god, to whom children were sacrificed by burning.
-Webster's New World Dictionary

"And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-Leviticus 18:21-22, Christian Bible KJV and Jewish Torah

"And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as did David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that is before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon."
-1 Kings 11:6-7, Christian Bible KJV and Jewish Torah (Luciferian Star of Soloman is the jewish symbol and Israeli flag)

"I am convinced that the persecution of the Jew is not in any large degree due to religious prejudice. No, the Jew is a money-getter. He made it the end and aim of his life. He was at it in Rome. He has been at it ever since. His success has made the whole human race his enemy."
-Mark Twain, member of Jewish Bohemian Grove

Semite.
1 a : a member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia including the Akkadians, Phoenicians, Hebrews, and ARABS - b : a descendant of these peoples - 2 : a member of a modern people speaking a Semitic language.
—Merriam Webster Dictionary

"A 'Semite' is any person living in that area, including Arabs and Christians. It's time we start talking about 'The Other AntiSemitism'. A Semite is not a Jew living in America or Europe."
—Ralph Nader (Arab-American from Lebannon), Indy presidential candidate 2008, Reform Party presidential nominee in 2004, Green Party presidential nominee in 2000, Arab-American Business conference, C-SPAN, 2003

Obama's 2nd SCOTUS 'vampyre' lesbian jew was never a judge or lawyer... The nomination of the unsightly Solicitor General, Elena Kagan, to the Supreme Court signals that the Illuminati satanic cult that governs America intends to use government institutions to enslave Americans. Kagan is the second Jewish lesbian appointed to the Supreme Court by Barack Obama. Sonya Sotomayor is no more a "Latina" than I am. She is a Marrano crypto Jew who belonged to the lesbian Belizean Society [for child sacrifice like jewish homosexual nudist compound Bohemian Grove]. Her boss, Barack Obama, is the son of an Illuminati Jewess. Kagan is a lesbian who, like Obama, hails from Chicago where Sabbatean Jews (Illuminati) perform child sacrifices. See the testimony of Vicki Polin.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=18&t=43174&m=776666#776666


Mohel Rabbi Yosef David Weisburg sucking penis during circumcism bris ritual, Jerusalem Post Magazine, Nov. 5, 1976, page 14
http://www.angelfire.com/ak5/salafi/KosherTopJobs.htm

"A circumcision ritual practiced by some Orthodox Jews has alarmed city health officials, who say it may have led to three cases of herpes - one of them fatal - in infants. But after months of meetings with Orthodox leaders, city officials have been unable to persuade them to abandon the practice. The practice is known as oral suction, or in Hebrew, metzitzah b'peh: after removing the foreskin of the penis, the practitioner, or mohel, sucks the blood from the wound to clean it."
-Andy Newman, New York Times, "City Questions Circumcision Ritual After Baby Dies," August 26, 2005
www.piratenews.org/pedophile-jewish-rabbis-kill-babies.html

“A proselyte who is under the age of three years and a day is permitted to marry a priest.”
-Rabbi Simeon ben Yohai, creator of Kabbalah

"How could they [the rabbis], contrary to the opinion of R. Simeon ben Yohai, which has scriptural support, forbid the marriage of the young proselyte?"
-Sanhedrin 60b, Footnote 5, jewish Babylonian Talmud

“All agree that the connection of a boy aged nine years and a day is a real connection; whilst that of one less than eight years is not."
-Sanhedrin 69b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"Because a boy under 9 is sexually immature, he can't throw guilt on the active offender, morally or legally."
-Sanhedrin 55a, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"The intercourse of a small boy is not regarded as a sexual act."
-Kethuboth 11b, Footnote 1, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"A male aged nine years and a day who cohabits with his deceased brother's wife acquires her (as wife)."
-Sanhedrin 55b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"R. Joseph said: Come and hear! A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabits with her, she becomes his."
-Sanhedrin 55b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"A girl who is three years of age and one day may be betrothed by cohabitation."
-Yeb. 57b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband’s brother cohabited with her she becomes his.
-Sanhedrin 69a, 69b, Yeb. 60b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"R. Simeon b. Yohai stated: A proselyte who is under the age of three years and one day is permitted to marry a priest, for it is said, But all the women children that have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves, and Phineas (who was priest, the footnote says) surely was with them."
-Yebamoth 60b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"But all women children, that have not known man by lying with him, it must be concluded that Scripture speaks of one who is fit for cohabitation."
-Yebamoth 60b, Footnote, jewish Babylonian Talmud

“As soon as she was of age one hour and did not protest she cannot protest any more.”
-Kethuboth 11a, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"When a grown up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing, for when a girl is less than this 6, it is as if one puts a finger into the eye 7?"
-Kethuboth 11b, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"less than three years old"
-Kethuboth 11b, Footnote 6, jewish Babylonian Talmud

"Virginity comes back to the little girl under three years."
-Kethuboth 11b, Footnote 7, jewish Babylonian Talmud

Talmud page scans:
www.truthtellers.org/alerts/pedophiliasecret.html

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness. Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity."
-Rabbi Jesus Christ, Matthew 23:27, 28, Christian Bible (murdered by jewish rabbis, now boiling in excrement in Hell according to jewish Bablylonian Talmud)

“The birth-rate of the Non-Jews has to be suppressed massively.”
-Jewish Babylonian Talmud, Zohar II, 4b

"Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature."
-Georgia Guidestones, jewish Luciferian Freemasonry




Kosher Man-hating Lesbian Commie Operative Nikovich12

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 9:07 AM

FREMDFIRMA



That was hilarious, in a sad little kinda way, wasn't it ?

I love watching the gun bunnies reactions when they realize the articulate hardcase backing them up happens to be a polyamorous anarchist who thinks their "family values" and stupid religiosity are more of a social danger than any firearm - you can actually SEE their teeth grind as they try not to completely flake out as they try to reconcile their stupidass warped perceptions with the actual reality standing in front of them, and they usually fail pretty badly.

But then, I like causing that mental meltdown, in folks who's worldview mostly consists of accepting someone elses programming, doing that is like adding a line of code that replicates itself every time the program is run, sooner or later the whole damn thing crashes and they're either removed as a threat, or they learn to think.

-F

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Thursday, May 13, 2010 11:00 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...


Ahhhh, there it is. Had to wait too long, unfortunately...already had my giggles for the morning. Too bad.

However. PN:

I AM at you and your amazing ability to fantasize...

Frem: Is, isn't it? True desperation, what a kick...


"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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