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Report: Attack on Jindal Aide and Boyfriend - No evidence it was political.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:26 AM

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Report: Attack on Jindal Aide and Boyfriend Politically Motivated (Beaten for wearing Palin buttons)
Tuesday, April 13, 2010 | Kristinn
Posted on Tue Apr 13 2010 11:47:27 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by kristinn

Joe Brown and Allee Bautsch

Allee Bautsch, chief campaign fundraiser for Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, and her boyfriend Joe Brown, were savagely beaten Friday night in New Orleans after leaving a Republican party fundraising dinner by a group of thugs who reportedly targeted the couple because they were wearing Sarah Palin pins.

Bautch's leg was broken and Brown incurred a broken jaw and nose as well as a concussion.

The Hayride reports that a source who visited Bautsch at the hospital the day after the attack says they were told the couple was attacked for wearing Palin buttons:

Two people at the Brennan’s event have now confirmed that the protest had largely broken up by the time it ended, but we also understand from someone who visited Allee Bautsch in the hospital Saturday morning that she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say “Let’s get them, they have Palin pins on” – so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it. It was not a mugging, it was not an argument gone wrong and it was not a bar fight.

The story of a Republican and her boyfriend being viciously attacked for wearing Palin buttons has yet to make national headlines, unlike say, unfounded rumors of nasty words being said by Tea Party protesters.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2492136/posts

First, take your shots. Shoot the messenger. Me, the Free Republic... fine. I'm expecting that.

But some important points - RAP FACTS , if you will.

These 2 were severely attacked, by a group of thugs ( white males ) which sent both to the hospital.

The girl had a freaking BROKEN LEG, her BF had a concussion and broken jaw. This was no mere scuffle, no simple mugging.

Whether they were targeted for wearing Palin pins, or any thing political, the fact was that they had just left a fundraiser for Gov. Jindal. ( R- LA ) There were protesters in the area, so it was well known that a GOP even was taking place in the Quarter.

Another link, less biased.
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2010/04/police_release_statement_o
n_ji.html

*update edit*

From the office of the Governor -

" “While there were protestors around at that time, we are not aware of any evidence that the individuals involved in the altercation were protestors,” Plotkin said in a statement.
Plotkin said the New Orleans Police Department is investigating.
“We are refraining from further comment to allow them to fully investigate and ensure justice is done,”

And as posted by Michelle Malkin -

Update 3:15pm Eastern: I just heard from Mr. Plotkin that Bautsch and her boyfriend were NOT wearing Palin pins.

Allahpundit: “What happened to Bautsch and her guy is no hoax — one of them has a broken leg, the other had a concussion and fractures to the nose and jaw — but whether there was politics involved or whether it was an old-fashioned New Orleans brawl remains to be seen…Exit question: If it turns out there was a political element to the beating, can we blame the NYT op-ed page for fostering a ‘climate of hate’ against conservatives? (Exit answer: Yes!)”

http://michellemalkin.com/2010/04/13/a-cautionary-note-about-the-beati
ng-in-new-orleans/

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Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 6:50 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

Got video tape? ANY proof that because they were leaving some gathering and/or wearing pins, THAT was what caused the beating?

It works both ways, Wind.

"Reportedly targeted"

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she and Brown were followed and attacked expressly because they had Palin pins on (she heard one of the attackers say “Let’s get them, they have Palin pins on” – so the attack WAS politically motivated as its victims understood it.

"As the victims understood it","they were told", "understand from someone". Got any proof that was the reason, or ANY valid proof of the cause, other than the statements by those beaten, and even THEY say "as its victims understood it"--so even they're not totally convinced?

If "nobody" yelled nigger but people claimed they did and there's no video showing it, how can you stand so staunchly behind something someone SAID and there's no video tape to prove it?

As has been argued in the other direction; it was a rally, a fundraiser, wso naturally people would have been carrying video cameras all over the place...why no video of the attack?

Oh, and the link you posted definitely was "less biased"; made NO statement that they were attacked because of wearing Palin pins, or any other political motive. Just 'derrogatory comments'--in quotes, mind you. Proof of nothing political.

So Democrats are the only ones who take things at face value and make assumptions, but Republicans, never, they could never be wrong.

Blow on, wind, blow on. Show the same proof you ask of others.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:03 AM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Sorry, but there weren't hundreds of folks out at the time, but there very well may be video tape, in the form of surveillance. Even if not, their injuries, the eye witnesses and police reports suffice.

I knew one of you children would bring up the "video tape " crap, just thought Kwickie would beat you to it. Shows how mentally deficient arguments have become on such matters.

Sad.

New Orleans is a bit on the rough side. Always has been. Even after Katrina, when the city's population dwindled to near 1/2 it's former size. Even in the Quarter, where tourist flock, there are still incidents of violence. I'v been there several times, for big events and small ones, but never around a shooting, stabbing or such a brutal attack. This wasn't down some darkened alley, but near some of the more traveled areas of the Quarter.

At least you too note that I pointed out the facts, and ...oh, wait. You didn't really do much of that at all.

Never mind.

2 people got attacked and sent to the hospital, and all you can muster up is some dopey, juvenile remarks about there not being any video ( yet ) ?

Yet when Congressman lie, blatantly, and try to stir up fabricated / astro turfed hatred along racial lines... you get all worked up about that.

That's pretty fucking sad, imo.

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Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:12 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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I knew one of you children would bring up the "video tape " crap, just thought Kwickie would beat you to it. Shows how mentally deficient arguments have become on such matters.

That says it all. It's "mentally deficient" for anyone else to ask Rappy to hold himself to the same rules of evidence he's oh-so-willing to hold Democrats to.

And Niki, you beat me to it. I was thinking the exact same thing: No video, no proof, ergo it didn't happen. Heck, for all we know the guy and his girlfriend did all the damage to each other at a lesbian-themed bondage strip club! (We DO know the GOP likes to hang out in such places, after all)

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:29 AM

AURAPTOR

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That says it all. It's "mentally deficient" for anyone else to ask Rappy to hold himself to the same rules of evidence he's oh-so-willing to hold Democrats to.

You're a shining example of what I'm talking about.

Your argument IS mentally deficient.

It lacks all manner of credibility and logic.

The two entirely different scenarios are no where near the same. The claim of similar rules of evidence simply don't hold water here. Not even close.

I know you'd love to draw this out to a 100 reply long thread on why a Friday night dinner / fundraiser inside Brennan's is anywhere near the exact same thing as Congress members walking along, arm in arm, in broad day light, along streets lined with thousands of protesters. One, a private function, inside, another, a full blown public affair, made so by the very folks who cried foul, when confronted by folks opposing what they were about to do, instead of the adoring throngs of supporters they WISH they had.

The Dems made up stories about events which didn't happen, in broad day light, out in public, where large crowds were, as they walked into the U.S. Capitol building. Meanwhile, two young people were brutally beaten, at night, after a closed fundraiser at a private business. There might have been a dozen, or a few dozen protesters, at most, but that's not the issue. These were private citizens, not law makers, going about their business, when they were attacked.

And all you low lifes want to do is whine and bitch about how two totally unrelated events are some how treated and viewed as being any where similar ?

SERIOUSLY, take a look in the mirror. The childishness, the petty sniping and idiocy you offer up on this boards on such matters is worse than toddlers fighting over a blankie. How about y'all grow up, just a bit, and stop acting like complete brats.

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:38 AM

KWICKO

Make me.

Besides, according to "Hero", if it ever even DID happen to a Republican, they're so manly and tough that there's no way in hell they'd go running and "whining like a little bitch" (his words, not mine) to the media. Remember?

Ergo, IF this even happened, you'd have never heard about it, according to "Hero". Since you DID hear about it, it couldn't have happened. Or at least, it couldn't have happened to a REPUBLICAN. So if it happened, they're Democrats, according to "Hero", because they whined to the media about it. And since they're Democrats, it wasn't politically motivated.

Just sayin', y'all want to argue it that way, I'll be happy to play your game.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 7:39 AM

AURAPTOR

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Make me.

I made you this morning, in the toilet bowl.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 8:48 AM

NIKI2

Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...

There it is; as I said, it's pissing into the wind. All you can do is BELIEVE the cry of "nigger" didn't happen, yet BELIEVE the couple was attacked for political reasons. There is no video of either, the news clearly left room for doubt, and the other news clipping says NOTHING about political motivation.

Yet you stubbornly refuse to even admit there's a possibility that both took place on one hand, or that the motivation for the second might not have been political, although there's no proof it was. I'm not talking about the spitting; the person involved never spoke about it and the tape clearly shows it was overblown. I'm talking about there being no evidence the cry of "nigger" DIDN'T happen, nor is there evidence the beating WAS politically motivated.

Your argument that there's no similar demand for proof is pathetic; nobody can prove either one for certain, ergo either is open to question. The circumstances make no difference, and as you even said yourself

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New Orleans is a bit on the rough side. Always has been. Even after Katrina, when the city's population dwindled to near 1/2 it's former size. Even in the Quarter, where tourist flock, there are still incidents of violence.

So if two people were attacked in a place where tourists (targets) abound, it still must have been politically motivated.

Throw your slurs around all you want, they mean nothing and only show the weakness of your argument and your deliberate blindness which will only believe the worst possible of one side, but accept the other without question.

There, I've done it again; tried to debate with reasonable facts and argued the possibility that either the cry of "nigger" OR the political motivation are equally unproveable, and gotten nothing back but absurdities. End of story.

"I'm just right. Kinda like the sun rising in the east and the world being round...its not a need its just the way it is." The Delusional "Hero", 3/1/10

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 9:57 AM

FREMDFIRMA

First, I keep gettin reminded of the other bullshit which falls apart on closer inspection, like the bimbo who scratched up her own face - and the egg all over yours, how bout that one, Rappy ?

But you want the flat honest real deal ?

I could give a fuck, even if this *IS* true, cause I pointed out back in 2003 that continuing along the road they were was gonna end with purge, a bang-on day of the rope equalling the reign of terror when people finally saw through the bullshit to what monsters lie behind that mask and what they did to our society and country.

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If the people knew what we had done, they would chase us down the street and lynch us.
-George HW Bush

The GOP is in it's death throes, self destructing as it's own factions eat each other and in it's weakness, everyone who's ever been shit on by them - and that's a DAMNED lot of people mind you - would like to see them and all their supporters dragged behind a tractor over six miles of concrete covered with salt and broken glass, and you expect me to have even a single ounce of sympathy for the same bastards enabling and cheering them on while they destroyed our economy by handing over all our resources to their corporate buddies, got us up to the ass in two futile, pointless wars, used the constitution for toilet paper and basically ran our entire country, social structure and way of life into the ground ?

Who, now that all the damage has come clear, CONTINUE to enable it and cheer it on ?

No way buddy, Darwin in action - you DO shit to people, whether with your own hand or by using government as a proxy, they DO shit back, action and reaction baby, you chuck a tennis ball at a brick wall don't whine when it comes flyin back.

And they DO whine, like little fucking babies, just like any other bully when someone gives them the same treatment their goons gave people who had the nerve to stand up and protest against their abuses, however stupidly and mildly, oh woe is me, whine whine whimper and simper...

Which does naught but show the folks who finally decided to not only stoop to their level, but keep right on goin, that it *worked*, that they're WEAK, that when their OWN ass is on the line suddenly they've not got the stomach for it any more, oh gee who woulda thunk it.

Which also just goes to show that they're incompetent at politics as anything else, when it starts gettin hardball - but that's been par for the course since 1774 with their slimy Federalist forefathers - they talk a good game, and a lot of smack which they don't even have the balls to admit to, but when the rubber meets the road they slip right back under the rock, prayin for forgiveness and short memories...
Not happenin this time folks, nope.

And I can't say for even a second that the idea of roughing up the enablers and cheerleaders of tyranny bothers me a whit, hell, that's downright merciful compared to how it COULD go, still can go, and just let em keep pushin, keep makin threats, talkin smack, encouraging violence, cause that's a game with more than one player at the table don't ya know.

And me... well, you can't even call me partisan about it cause I know what happens AFTER that, when your stupid little party gets crushed into the dust of history where it belongs and the people who did it realize they don't have to put up with these OTHER assholes neither....

And good riddance to the lot of em, most especially their enablers and cheerleaders, cause without them to provide it, such assholes have no threat with which to climb to power.

So the source of all this hate, all this chaos and misery is for you, Rappy, the one place you dare not look because the truth is something so awful you just can't face it - the nearest mirror.

And that's *MY* piece of mind on it.

-Frem

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 10:10 AM

STORYMARK

Conservatives attacking a Liberal..... it must be a lie - even when there is video.

Liberals attacking a Conservative - must be true even without evidence.

Ah, gotta love Rappy.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:14 AM

KWICKO

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First, I keep gettin reminded of the other bullshit which falls apart on closer inspection, like the bimbo who scratched up her own face - and the egg all over yours, how bout that one, Rappy ?

Bingo. What next, Rappy will tell us that these yokels had backwards B's scratched into their faces?

Man, used to be you'd hear all about the "reactionaries" on the left, the so-called "knee-jerk liberals" who'd over-react without getting all the facts. Seems like that's the norm for the Republican party for the last... well, since at least September 12, 2001, to be honest.

Is the Republican party being run by knee-jerk conservatives? Or just by the usual conservative jerks?

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:36 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Conservatives attacking a Liberal..... it must be a lie - even when there is video.

Where's the video? Oh,there is none ?

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Liberals attacking a Conservative - must be true even without evidence.

Ah, gotta love Rappy.

No evidence ? WTF do you call a broken leg and a concussion ?

Ahh, ya gotta love the complete idiocy of the Left. Eyes closed so tight, they've blinded themselves permanently.

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 1:50 PM

KWICKO

There's no evidence that it was POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. None at all. Just you trying to spin it into some cheap ploy for sympathy and phony indignation.

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:06 PM

AURAPTOR

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
There's no evidence that it was POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. None at all. Just you trying to spin it into some cheap ploy for sympathy and phony indignation.

See, unlike the lot of you, I'll admit as much. Which is why I even posted the NOLA link, along w/ the initial story.

Time will tell. Unlike some here,if there WEREN'T any Palin pins worn, if there wasn't any political motive here, I'll let the evidence speak.

I only wish others would do the same.

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 2:13 PM

KWICKO

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
There's no evidence that it was POLITICALLY MOTIVATED. None at all. Just you trying to spin it into some cheap ploy for sympathy and phony indignation.

See, unlike the lot of you, I'll admit as much. Which is why I even posted the NOLA link, along w/ the initial story.

Time will tell. Unlike some here,if there WEREN'T any Palin pins worn, if there wasn't any political motive here, I'll let the evidence speak.

I only wish others would do the same.

So you "admit as much", huh? So tell us all again WHY you decided to label this thread "Report: Attack on Jindal Aide and Boyfriend Politically Motivated". I mean, if there's no evidence at all that it WAS politically motivated, and if you said you'll admit as much, then why title it as such?

And if there WERE Palin pins worn, does that automatically make it politically motivated? Are you saying that my car was stolen and stripped because of the Obama sticker on the window, not because it was a car popular with street racers? It was stolen not for performance parts, but for political reasons? Is that what you're saying?

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Wednesday, April 14, 2010 3:18 PM

AURAPTOR

America loves a winner!

Why ? It was the title of the article. I merely posted it here. Thought you were smart enough to figure that one out on your own. Guess not.

It was reported that the two ( or at least one ) was wearing a Palin button. Just as it was repoted that Rep. Lewis claimed a crowd chanted things at him, but there was no evidence.

If what was reported was actually said, then yes....it seems it was politically motivated.

As I said... time will tell. Does that bother you ? It doesn't me, not in the least.

Summer Glau can simply walk into Mordor

Bones: "Don't 'rawr' her!"
Booth: "What? she'rawred' me first."

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