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Well worth the read: the left-wing tea-partiers

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UPDATED: Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15
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Tuesday, February 9, 2010 3:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


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Is such a norm even imaginable in DC today? Compare Stennis with Max Baucus, who has gladly opened his campaign chest to $3.3 million in contributions from the healthcare and insurance industries since 2005, a time when he has controlled healthcare in the Senate. Or Senators Lieberman, Bayh and Nelson, who took millions from insurance and healthcare interests and then opposed the (in their states) popular public option for healthcare. Or any number of Blue Dog Democrats in the House who did the same, including, most prominently, Arkansas's Mike Ross. Or Republican John Campbell, a California landlord who in 2008 received (as ethics reports indicate) between $600,000 and $6 million in rent from used car dealers, who successfully inserted an amendment into the Consumer Financial Protection Agency Act to exempt car dealers from financing rules to protect consumers. Or Democrats Melissa Bean and Walter Minnick, who took top-dollar contributions from the financial services sector and then opposed stronger oversight of financial regulations.

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As fundraising becomes the focus of Congress--as the parties force members to raise money for other members, as they reward the best fundraisers with lucrative committee assignments and leadership positions--the focus of Congressional "work" shifts. Like addicts constantly on the lookout for their next fix, members grow impatient with anything that doesn't promise the kick of a campaign contribution. The first job is meeting the fundraising target. Everything else seems cheap. Talk about policy becomes, as one Silicon Valley executive described it to me, "transactional." The perception, at least among industry staffers dealing with the Hill, is that one makes policy progress only if one can promise fundraising progress
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No amendment would come from this Congress, of course. But the framers left open a path to amendment that doesn't require the approval of Congress--a convention, which must be convened if two-thirds of the states apply for it. Interestingly (politically) those applications need not agree on the purpose of the convention. Some might see the overturning of Citizens United. Others might want a balanced budget amendment. The only requirement is that two-thirds apply, and then begins the drama of an unscripted national convention to debate questions of fundamental law.

Many fear a convention, worrying that our democracy can't process constitutional innovation well. I don't share that fear

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For this, democracy pivots. It will either spin to restore integrity or it will spin further out of control. Whether it will is no longer a choice. Our only choice is how.


www.alternet.org/news/145595/our_democracy_no_longer_works_and_the_pro
blem_is_congress?page=entire



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Tuesday, February 9, 2010 4:41 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by SignyM:
Many fear a convention, worrying that our democracy can't process constitutional innovation well. I don't share that fear


I do, all too easy for that to get spun to "We need a dictator to get anything DONE!", and I am already catching whiffs of that, here and there, amongst some of these movements on both sides of the political divide.

-F

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 2:49 AM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Many fear a convention, worrying that our democracy can't process constitutional innovation well. I don't share that fear


I do, all too easy for that to get spun to "We need a dictator to get anything DONE!", and I am already catching whiffs of that, here and there, amongst some of these movements on both sides of the political divide.

-F



No kidding. I keep hearing it from people I talk to on both sides, on all ranges of the political spectrum: "Maybe we need a benevolent dictator." They think the "benevolent" part makes it okay. And sure, it SOUNDS like a great idea in times when we're in crisis and nothing is being done, but there's one thing you always have to remember: When you give that power to the GOOD dictator, you have to keep in mind that someday he's going to be gone. Who follows him? How do you rein in their power and keep them in check, once you've given them all the power?

Hell, Napoleon started out with great intentions for France. So did Robespierre.


Also, we would do well to remember that power, once given away, is NEVER given back willingly, nor without a fight.

Mike

Work is the curse of the Drinking Class.
- Oscar Wilde

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Thursday, February 11, 2010 10:15 AM

FREMDFIRMA


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This argument destroys itself. It demands a power, and denies the probability of its exercise. There are suspicions of power on one hand, and absolute and unlimited confidence on the other. I hope to be one of those who have a large share of suspicion. I leave it to this house, if there be not too small a portion on the other side, by giving up too much to that government. You can easily see which is the worst of two extremes. Too much suspicion may be corrected. If you give too little power to-day, you may give more to-morrow. But the reverse of the proposition will not hold. If you give too much power to-day, you cannot retake it to-morrow: for to-morrow will never come for that purpose. If you have the fate of other nations, you will never see it. It is easier to supply deficiencies of power than to take back excess of power. This no man can deny.

-Patrick Henry, 06-14-1788.


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