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Full 34-minute 911 call:
www.newsok.com/woman-shoots-and-kills-intruder-in-lincoln-county/artic
le/3422498?custom_click=pod_headline_crime


She keeps saying "He's crazy, my son is the chief of police", but it just sounds like a normal person knocking on a door, insistently. As if he's got an emergency... Paranoia in a mental illness when nobody is out to get you.

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Lincoln County woman justified in fatal shooting of intruder

SHAWNEE, Okla. — District Attorney Richard Smothermon has issued his opinion that a Lincoln County woman was justified when she shot and killed an intruder who threw a patio table through her glass door early Friday morning. No charges will be filed.

Donna Jackson, 57, shot Billy Dean Riley about 12:40 a.m. while she was on the phone with 911 dispatchers. During the call, she was pleading for deputies to hurry to the scene because a man she described as being drunk was trying get into her rural home located between Stroud and Cushing.

“A review of the recorded 911 call paints a chilling scene,” according to Smothermon’s opinion, which said evidence shows the use of defensive force by Jackson was justifiable as citizens have a right to expect absolute safety within their homes.

Smothermon said Oklahoma law allows a person to use defensive force that is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm to another if that person is in the process of unlawfully and forcefully entering a residence.

“The death of Billy Riley, while tragic, was justifiable under Oklahoma law. I therefore decline prosecution,” Smothermon said in his opinion.

According to the ruling, Jackson was home alone that night and was in bed reading the Bible when she heard her dogs barking. She got up to see what was happening and noticed a man at the back patio door that she did not know or recognize.

The man, later identified as Riley, 53, started “banging on her patio door, yelling obscenities and threatening to kill her,” the opinion shows.

Jackson called 911 to report the incident and also retrieved a shotgun from a closet. Riley attempted to gain entry to the home by kicking and banging on the door; he finally gained entry by breaking the glass door with a patio table.

“Mrs. Jackson fired her weapon, striking the man one time in the chest, causing a fatal wound,” Smothermon said.

Based on the investigation, Smothermon said evidence at the scene of the home was consistent with Jackson’s statements.

Riley’s body was found with his feet inside the threshold of the home; pieces of glass inside the home from the broken glass also had prints consistent with Riley’s boots.

The 911 call also is evidence, as Riley can be heard yelling and pounding on the door before the fatal shot was fired.

“Mrs. Jackson can be heard talking to the 911 operator ... she can be heard imploring law enforcement to hurry, stating several times that she ‘did not want to shoot this man.’”

Near the end of the call, glass can be heard breaking, and shortly afterward, a weapon is discharged.

Law enforcement arrived a short time later; Riley was pronounced dead at the scene.

Jackson hasn’t commented to the media about the incident; Smothermon said Jackson’s thoughts have been for Riley’s family. Graveside services for Riley are scheduled 2 p.m. Thursday at New Zion Cemetery in Chandler.

Authorities have said they don’t know why Riley broke into Jackson’s home, but they believe he was driving in the area when his pickup ran off the roadway. His sister was found passed out in that pickup and was transported to a hospital for medical treatment.

www.news-star.com/newsnow/x327822052/Lincoln-County-woman-justified-in
-fatal-shooting-of-intruder



Oops. She admits on 911 that she clearly hears him talking about his truck. She spent too much time talking to the dispatcher and zero time talking to the knocker on her door.

Sounds like he just needed to call 911 for an ambulance for his sister injured in the truck crash. When the homeowner refused to call 911 he allegedly threatened to kill her
(but that cannot be heard on the 911 tape). Sounds like a million-dollar wrongful death civil lawsuit.

Instead of calling 911 about an intruder, she could have listened to what he was saying about the crash and called for an ambulance.

That's why gun ownership requires discretion, rather than asking a female non-cop dispatcher what to do. Gun control requires hitting a target, and also knowing when to not pull the trigger.

The "Bible by the bed" story is a nice idea for controlling a jury.

Quote:

Mangion said Riley was driving nearby with his sister when he drove off the roadway and got stuck.

"His motivations are unclear from this investigation,” Mangion said. "He went over a fence with a locked gate and he had to fight off a dog once he got in the yard, so I doubt he was looking for help,” Mangion said. "I doubt that (getting help) was his motivation.”

Patricia Totty, Riley’s sister, was passed out in the car in an apparent overdose of narcotics and alcohol, Mangion said. She has since been released from the hospital. She is from Siloam Springs, Ark.

He had several convictions of driving under the influence of alcohol as well as a possession of marijuana conviction.

Jackson’s son is Absentee Shawnee Tribal Police Chief Brad Jackson.

http://concealedcarryforum.com/forum/post.asp?method=TopicQuote&TOPIC_
ID=19019&FORUM_ID=18



No arrests for burglery or robbery. Cops tend to shoot first, think never -- same for their mommas. Now she's always gonna have that blood on her floor, walls and door to think about, until she loses her home to the dead guy's family.

This is like when family shoots family by mistake, thinking they're a burgler. Since she's cop family, the corporate media and cop bloggers will spin this in her favor, with zero opposition from the gungrabbers (controlled opposition = they both want a police state where only cops and politicians get guns).

The 911 tape includes her son the police chief covering up her crime/negligence rather than investigate the case, as done with mere "civilians", who would be immediately arrested, the entire house ransacked by cops, all guns permanently confiscated (for resale), and she'd be forced to pay bail and hire a lawyer before criminal charges might be dropped.

My adult brother walked into my mom's house to have her husband point a gun at him. My grandparents had a home invasion that stole their giant TV, as they stayed in their locked bedroom (inside job, recovered with restitution).

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:20 PM

DREAMTROVE


Thanks for this dreadful story. I assumed when I clicked that this would be another 2a post. There is another side to this story... If she had attacked him with a knife, he would have fled, seeing as he just wanted to use the phone.

I've been in this situation, and the paranoid woman didn't shoot me. Lucky me, I guess. I'm actually finally planning on getting a cell phone. Here's why: Twitter it, don't call 911. Find a wifi or 3g to hijack and SMS your SOS.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 1:35 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Thanks for this dreadful story. I assumed when I clicked that this would be another 2a post. There is another side to this story... If she had attacked him with a knife, he would have fled, seeing as he just wanted to use the phone.

I've been in this situation, and the paranoid woman didn't shoot me. Lucky me, I guess. I'm actually finally planning on getting a cell phone. Here's why: Twitter it, don't call 911. Find a wifi or 3g to hijack and SMS your SOS.



This guy's problem was being in the boonies of Oklahoma. Maybe no cell service, since near an Indian nation.

That's a big problem in Tennessee despite all the cell towers, due to mountains and valleys. My wife was 1st on the scene of a "fatal" car crash, and her cell battery was dead (but reception was bad there too). If her cell had worked, the nurse might have lived, since it took 40 minutes for an ambulance, while a dozen cops stood aroung and did nothing.

He definitely effed up, should'a waited for the cops after the crazy woman called 911. But he probably worried his unconscious sister would die if he waited.

He was probably a little drunk, though his speech didn't sound slurred on the 911 call. The only legit way to measure alcohol in a dead body is to sample directly from the heart, which is almost never done. Alcohol can ferment from normal blood samples, giving a high fake score for people who never drink alcohol.

You can bet the cops will spin this to their favor to subvert a civil lawsuit.

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Saturday, December 12, 2009 4:36 PM

DREAMTROVE


We have an excellent volunteer service here. The whistle, which was installed to replace the bell, which was installed to tell the farmers in the whole township, which is about 10 miles across, when to bring their cows in, sounds every time there's an emergency. This probably saved my life, though at times it can be annoying, because it will ring incessantly until someone deals with whatever it is.

When I had my very nearly fatal crash, that was what saved me: some random guy found me, and rung the bell, which sounded the whistle. If he had called 911, it might have been too late.

The delays you mention here are critical, and our response time of our emergency systems and medical establishment are way too slow. An independent peer system could easily replace it, and probably should.

If there's no cell coverage, as this is none here, then there should be a reachable wifi. The nice thing about wifi is that you can use it without permission and without entering the home, business or public office. I currently am using my own, but I have half a dozen networks to choose from.

The key to communication is redundancy. I keep an extra battery for my computer, just in case. My battery can go out, and my house can lose power, and my network can go down, and I can still jack another network off of an extra battery.

It's the same logic as carrying an air compressor in your car. It's not 100% replacement for a jack and a spare tire, but it works most of the time. IMHO, we as a society need to become our own first responders. I've been thinking about this a lot since you posted the story about the girls texting their emergency rather than dialing 911.

I think a sophisticate peer network would not only be superior, but would have the added side benefit of obviating the police. Sure, they would subsist for some time on giving out speeding tickets, but their moral basis for absolute authority would evaporate in the minds of the people, and reform would just become a matter of time.

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