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NYT Loves GPS Car Tax by the Mile

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Monday, March 9, 2009 10:10 AM

PIRATENEWS

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The new tax will TRACK EXACTLY WHERE YOU DRIVE AT ALL TIMES...
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Officials Seek Way to Fill a Gas Tax Gap

“We’re anticipating that we may get to the day when cars on the road don’t ever even go to a fueling station,” said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, an Oregon Democrat and chairman of the House Subcommittee on Highways and Transit, which held hearings on the matter last summer. “If we’re going to continue to have a highway network and fix the 150,000 bridges we have that are in disrepair, we’re going to need new sources of revenue.”

Gas tax revenue has been flat or declining across the nation, partly because people are driving less and partly because their cars require less fuel. The Department of Transportation took in about $71 million less in gas taxes in the 2008 fiscal year than in 2007, and Americans drove 12.9 billion fewer miles in November 2008 than November 2007, the most recent figures available.

Those declines have depleted the Federal Highway Trust Fund, authorized by Congress in 2005 to pay for road construction and maintenance through the end of this year. The federal tax rate of 18.4 cents per gallon of gas has not changed since 1993; 24 states and the District of Columbia have not changed their per-gallon tax rates since 1998.

The matter bubbled up at the White House recently after President Obama’s transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, said the administration was considering some form of a “vehicles miles traveled” tax to replace the federal fuel tax.

Still, studies of variations of a mileage tax are being conducted. In the largest experiment of its type, the $16.5 million federal Road User Study, more than 1,200 volunteers in six cities are driving cars equipped with tracking devices to record where motorists have been. The drivers pay the traditional gas tax when they fill up, but they also receive simulated bills each month based on mileage, showing how such a system may work.

“We’re looking at how you would bill people, at invasion of privacy issues, and, human nature being what it is, people will always be looking at ways to beat the system,” said Jon Kuhl, principal investigator for the Road User Study, which is using volunteers in Austin, Tex.; Baltimore; Boise, Idaho; Raleigh and Durham, N.C.; San Diego; and the Quad Cities region of Iowa.

In a $2.7 million field test that ended in 2007, Oregon officials equipped the cars of 299 volunteers with transponders that relayed mileage data to special gas pumps. The pump charged the drivers 1.2 cents per mile in lieu of the 24-cent per gallon state gas tax. Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski, a Democrat, has asked the Legislature to approve $10 million to refine the technology and conduct more field tests.

“We’re seeing more fuel-efficient cars or even cars that run on electricity,” said Susan Martinovich, director of the Nevada Department of Transportation. “Those people are not paying as much, and yet they’re still on the road and still causing congestion and impacting pavement. How do I get at those people?”

Privacy advocates and economists, though, wonder about the complexity — and the public’s reaction to tracking where and when people drive.

“You’d have to have a record where the car is at all times, and that certainly would frighten America,” said Mike Moffatt, an economist at the Ivy School of Business at the University of Western Ontario. “And it also seems like a much more expensive way to collect taxes.”

www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us/08car.html?_r=2&ref=us

Since 0.001% of vehicles will be electric someday, everyone MUST get the GPS tracker tax... Never mind that electricity and automobiles are already taxed to death.

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Monday, March 9, 2009 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
The new tax will TRACK EXACTLY WHERE YOU DRIVE AT ALL TIMES...
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Officials Seek Way to Fill a Gas Tax Gap

“We’re anticipating that we may get to the day when cars on the road don’t ever even go to a fueling station,” said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, an Oregon Democrat and chairman of the House Subcommittee on Highways and Transit, which held hearings on the matter last summer. “If we’re going to continue to have a highway network and fix the 150,000 bridges we have that are in disrepair, we’re going to need new sources of revenue.”

Gas tax revenue has been flat or declining across the nation, partly because people are driving less and partly because their cars require less fuel. The Department of Transportation took in about $71 million less in gas taxes in the 2008 fiscal year than in 2007, and Americans drove 12.9 billion fewer miles in November 2008 than November 2007, the most recent figures available.

Those declines have depleted the Federal Highway Trust Fund, authorized by Congress in 2005 to pay for road construction and maintenance through the end of this year. The federal tax rate of 18.4 cents per gallon of gas has not changed since 1993; 24 states and the District of Columbia have not changed their per-gallon tax rates since 1998.

The matter bubbled up at the White House recently after President Obama’s transportation secretary, Ray LaHood, said the administration was considering some form of a “vehicles miles traveled” tax to replace the federal fuel tax.

Still, studies of variations of a mileage tax are being conducted. In the largest experiment of its type, the $16.5 million federal Road User Study, more than 1,200 volunteers in six cities are driving cars equipped with tracking devices to record where motorists have been. The drivers pay the traditional gas tax when they fill up, but they also receive simulated bills each month based on mileage, showing how such a system may work.

“We’re looking at how you would bill people, at invasion of privacy issues, and, human nature being what it is, people will always be looking at ways to beat the system,” said Jon Kuhl, principal investigator for the Road User Study, which is using volunteers in Austin, Tex.; Baltimore; Boise, Idaho; Raleigh and Durham, N.C.; San Diego; and the Quad Cities region of Iowa.

In a $2.7 million field test that ended in 2007, Oregon officials equipped the cars of 299 volunteers with transponders that relayed mileage data to special gas pumps. The pump charged the drivers 1.2 cents per mile in lieu of the 24-cent per gallon state gas tax. Gov. Theodore R. Kulongoski, a Democrat, has asked the Legislature to approve $10 million to refine the technology and conduct more field tests.

“We’re seeing more fuel-efficient cars or even cars that run on electricity,” said Susan Martinovich, director of the Nevada Department of Transportation. “Those people are not paying as much, and yet they’re still on the road and still causing congestion and impacting pavement. How do I get at those people?”

Privacy advocates and economists, though, wonder about the complexity — and the public’s reaction to tracking where and when people drive.

“You’d have to have a record where the car is at all times, and that certainly would frighten America,” said Mike Moffatt, an economist at the Ivy School of Business at the University of Western Ontario. “And it also seems like a much more expensive way to collect taxes.”

www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/us/08car.html?_r=2&ref=us

Since 0.001% of vehicles will be electric someday, everyone MUST get the GPS tracker tax... Never mind that electricity and automobiles are already taxed to death.

The NY gas tax is to repair the roads, guess what, they suck.

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Monday, March 9, 2009 1:35 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)


What pisses me off most about this proposal is that we're going to get punished for DOING THE RIGHT THING! We drove less, and did it in more fuel-efficient cars, so they want to raise the gas tax to cover their shortfall.

Add to that the fact that I have no idea how my tax-per-mile would even be calculated, seeing as I have no "black box", no GPS unit, nor anything of the sort on my nearly 20-year-old car - and I fully intend on keeping it that way!

Mike

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

- Anthem, by Leonard Cohen

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Tuesday, March 10, 2009 6:08 PM

PIRATENEWS

John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!


Here in Tennessee counties like to double the vehicle registration tax, via a "wheel tax".

That way county employees can pay themselves $180,000/year overtime, PER PERSON.
www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/feb/20/payroll-inquiry-grows/
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2009/02/gov-employee-pays-self-18000
0-overtime.html


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