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'Tase me Bro...I deserve it...'
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:19 PM
BADKARMA00
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:24 PM
CAUSAL
Quote:Originally posted by Succatash: LOL, technically Causal started making things personal at the beginning of this thread. I felt like he verbally punched me in the face!
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:26 PM
Quote:Originally posted by badkarma00: Don't judge a police officer until you've worn his badge and walked his beat. It's not the safest job in the world, and they have as much right to protect themselves as any of us do. There are officers, no question, who abuse their authority, I don't dispute that. But not all of them do, and most take their job very seriously. Til ya been there, try not to judge.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:28 PM
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by citizen: The Job of a police officer is to enforce the mandated authority of government. It is the job of members of society to question the actions of same.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:43 PM
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 4:59 PM
FINN MAC CUMHAL
Quote:Originally posted by badkarma00: Does anyone know what the device actually was? Just food for thought :) Bad_karma
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:33 PM
SUCCATASH
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:49 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 5:51 PM
BIGDAMNNOBODY
Quote:Originally posted by rue: BiggusD No snide comments to 'Hero' ? I thought not. You apparently have the great sense (ironically) to think he's all right.
Quote:Originally posted by rue: But I rub you the wrong way. What a freakin' joke.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 6:34 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:17 PM
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:24 PM
FLETCH2
Quote:Originally posted by Succatash: You know, I can think of another man who pissed people off by saying crazy things and refusing to shut up.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 7:55 PM
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 8:37 PM
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 9:25 PM
JARHEAD
Quote:Originally posted by rue: The effect may wear off, the memory lingers.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Causal: Thank God for democracy. It may be the worst form of government, but it's better than all the rest of them! In all seriousness, though, I can agree to this; I think it is the citizen's job to keep their government accountable. But there's a difference, in my mind, between keeping the government accountable and defying the government.
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:22 PM
CITIZEN
Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:24 PM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 1:37 AM
LEADB
Quote:Regardless of this, I would say I'd like to see 1) Civilian review of all taser use. 2) Police tasers be colored or otherwise plainly identifiable as tasers from both front and side view as such; as much for the officer's safety as for the 'perps'. 3) Police tasers have counters which cannot be reset. 4) Improved training in de-escalation techniques. While I'm not prepared to say that it would have helped with someone prepared/planning to be arrested, I can see Frem's point that the methods used in this event might well have escalated someone who otherwise might not have gone 'over the top'.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 2:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I am damned glad I do not suffer under the misperception that the police are always right, or that they're somehow more noble, trustworthy, or honest than the rest of us - dude, they're PEOPLE, and people lie, cheat and steal, it's just a matter of degree. ... To be brutally frank about it, no... you're NOT gonna get em to behave with a Taser in hand... Remember folks, to ME, a cop is just a thug with a gun and a bunch of other toys, who has some small amount of legal authority *IF* someone is breaking the law or endangering someone else - and they're every bit as capable of abuse or criminal behavior as the next guy, only more so because they're far less likely to be taken to account for it. No, that's not a neutral perspective, it's entirely biased in part due to long experience with one of the most corrupt police forces in existance (the BCPD) and a keen understanding of the darker parts of human nature and psychology...
Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:06 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:57 AM
RUE
I have a vote and I'm not afraid to use it!
Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:12 AM
HERO
Quote:Originally posted by rue: No, I cringed, like any normal person.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:14 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:21 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 5:39 AM
Quote:Most normal people are sick and tired of the looney left making fools of themselves. Even those who might otherwise agree with the left are turned off by the left's tactics.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:32 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: Frem, the point of your original post was that we should eliminate the taser from police use because we can’t trust them to use it correctly, since they're all rotten sons of bitches. First of all, police are not all rotten sons of bitches - that’s just a fantasy held by anarchists and Liberals.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 6:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by jarhead: The only cops that I ever met that I thought that I could possibly trust were actually CHP- California Highway Patrol. They haven't really had too many scandals and just watching the way they work the highway leads me to believe that they, unlike their in town brethren, don't have the "I had my ass kicked in high school everyday, but now I have the power" mentality.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 7:05 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Hero: Quote:Originally posted by rue: No, I cringed, like any normal person. Most normal people are sick and tired of the looney left making fools of themselves. Even those who might otherwise agree with the left are turned off by the left's tactics. Laughing is the natural response to something like this. You must either be a humorless, depressed, or feeling nervous cause next time 'it could be you losing your cool, making a fool of yourself, and getting tased on YouTube. H
Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Oh goodie, a mental health lecture from 'Hero', the resident sociopath. What could possibly be next, I wonder ?
Thursday, November 1, 2007 8:39 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:01 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:24 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:35 AM
FREDGIBLET
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Now, when john q public points a camera at police activity, how do they react ? If the officer is in the right, such video documentation can only HELP the case, providing additional evidence and a solid witness in the guy behind the camera - so they should welcome the additional support. But the truth of it is, when the cameras come out, generally the police become angry and aggressive, often arresting or initiating/threatening violence or arrest at the person with it - again, that is not the behavior of law enforcement professionals, that is the behavior of a criminal mafia.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:42 AM
CHRISISALL
Thursday, November 1, 2007 9:45 AM
Quote:Originally posted by fredgiblet: If that happened to you wouldn't you be a little pissy about cameras?
Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:14 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:17 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:24 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:31 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 10:42 AM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 11:30 AM
Quote:Originally posted by rue: Maybe that's why you need those squad-car video cams. To get the whole story on tape.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 12:07 PM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 1:20 PM
Quote:Originally posted by fredgiblet: Quote:Originally posted by rue: Maybe that's why you need those squad-car video cams. To get the whole story on tape. Guess which tape will be played on the nightly news though.
Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:34 PM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 3:57 PM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:00 PM
Thursday, November 1, 2007 4:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by chrisisall: Tasering is not torture- it doesn't last long enough. You anti-torture folk should watch American Idol, and find out what real terror is! /B]
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