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The Dixie Chicks
Friday, April 7, 2006 8:33 PM
GINOBIFFARONI
Saturday, April 8, 2006 5:06 AM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Saturday, April 8, 2006 5:44 AM
FINN MAC CUMHAL
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:18 AM
SERGEANTX
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Really like the song, and I don't mind saying the thinking behind it too....
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:27 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Really like the song, and I don't mind saying the thinking behind it too.... I was disappointed when they went into damage control mode.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Translation: The Dixie Chicks made some controversial political statements. At least one parent encouraged her daughter to write nasty mail to the Dixie Chicks. In that mail, the Dixie Chicks were urged to stay out of politics or they'd face dire consequences. They have responded with this song.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:24 AM
Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing " I wonder if those lines were an intentional reply to Laura Ingrahams book....
Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:38 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: " Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing " I wonder if those lines were an intentional reply to Laura Ingrahams book.... I disagree w/ what they say, even if I think they sound fine when the sing. They can tell anyone they want to fuck off, and we'll just not buy their music. It's that simple. People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:54 AM
Quote: You can buy or not buy whatever you want, but if they want to speak out against something they feel is wrong... Do you think they should not have that right ? Do you think threats, ranting, and burning of CD's over a difference of opinion is what your country is all about ? Just who are you including into your " we won't buy " ?
Saturday, April 8, 2006 8:34 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Did you NOT read what I just posted ? Hell, you copied my post, but I don't think you read what was written. How could you have missed what I said? me -> They can tell anyone they want to fuck off, and we'll just not buy their music. It's that simple. Note the words I used, and how I put them together. THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT, AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO BUY THEIR MUSIC! It's really that simple. I even SAID it was that simple. There, I said it again! ( I hope you read this before you decide to cut/past again ) Now, where did you get the idea in your noggin that I wanted to deprive anyone of their rights? How can you read my words, and then process that info in your brain and still have any question that I might want to limit anyone's freedom of speech? How do you even get from A to B ??
Saturday, April 8, 2006 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:09 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: This is a great assessment of the backlash of anger that occured due to the Dixie Chick's comments. You're right though, it wasn't so much a freedom of speech issue. It was a blind patriotism issue, and sad commentary on the petty and insecure sense of pride that many Americans feel these days.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 9:12 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SergeantX: It was a blind patriotism issue, and sad commentary on the petty and insecure sense of pride that many Americans feel these days. SergeantX
Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:39 AM
RIGHTEOUS9
Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:49 AM
Saturday, April 8, 2006 10:55 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: You can buy or not buy whatever you want, but if they want to speak out against something they feel is wrong... Do you think they should not have that right ? Do you think threats, ranting, and burning of CD's over a difference of opinion is what your country is all about ? Just who are you including into your " we won't buy " ? Did you NOT read what I just posted ? Hell, you copied my post, but I don't think you read what was written. How could you have missed what I said? me -> They can tell anyone they want to fuck off, and we'll just not buy their music. It's that simple. Note the words I used, and how I put them together. THEY CAN SAY WHAT THEY WANT, AND IF WE DON'T LIKE IT, WE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO BUY THEIR MUSIC! It's really that simple. I even SAID it was that simple. There, I said it again! ( I hope you read this before you decide to cut/past again ) Now, where did you get the idea in your noggin that I wanted to deprive anyone of their rights? How can you read my words, and then process that info in your brain and still have any question that I might want to limit anyone's freedom of speech? How do you even get from A to B ?? Just who are you including into your " we won't buy " ? You want a list ? Why would you even care? Are you going to go out and buy several copies to counter my NOT buying just one ? Fine by me! I hope you do. But wait, you don't know what artist / actors, etc I'm not buying. Hmmm....guess you'd better start buying up ALL of the DVDs, CDs and concert tickets you can, just to cover all your bases! People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss " They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
Saturday, April 8, 2006 11:10 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Righteous9: Finn, your memory is lacking. This story was all day news on every news station. It was a national scandal, and that's what the rest of us were raliing against....the absurdity of your witch hunt...this wasn't a matter of just record sales and people speaking with their dollars. It was a matter of the media painting the Dixie Chicks as Traitors. Do we really have to revisit the equivalent of the red scare every few decades in this country? Jesus, no wonder its so easy to do. We Have no long term memory. "Mcarthyism? What's that?" We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:24 PM
SEVENPERCENT
Quote:Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal: Gino’s comments reminded me of how this whole controversy played out. The Dixie Chicks made some statement which offended their fans who in return responded with their own set of statements, which in many cases meant no longer being fans. This was a perfect example of how freedom of speech is supposed to work. That should have ended it. Everyone should be happy, at least with regard to freedom of speech. However, the pro-Dixie Chick camp (i.e. generally fanatical Bush critics who usurped the debate for their own agenda) often twisted the argument to be that the Dixie Chicks not only had a right to speak their point of view, but also the right to do so without any response from those that disagree with them. What I remember thinking is that this controversy basically demonstrated how little respect these people, who hid behind freedom of speech, actually have for freedom of speech.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:41 PM
Quote: I'm sorry, I read a short review of the book you pointed out and it lead me to the conclusion the author feels that anyone who doesn't think the way she does is not welcome to have an opinion in " Her America ", just because you pointed the book out it was unfair of me to assume you felt the same way, I apologize... I was going to start making comparisions between that viewpoint and censorship in China, and how fuuny it is that many of the people whp preach these ideas in the US have a real hard on for tough anti China policy... but you have made it clear we actually agree more so on this point than the author of that book. Oh, and the we thing... I was having a similar disagreement with someone else who kept saying " we " and I asked, as I asked you and the response I got was " any real American "... so by extention I asked if that meant if anyone disagreed with him they weren't " real Americans " and so on. Just trying to be clear I guess part of the question is where one can draw the line how far one can go to protest policy, my feeling is publicly speaking out is good, debate is healthy ( as long as it is respected ) the other side of the line is for example when US soldiers were called babykillers and spat upon by protesters.... that sort of action can and should not be tolerated. I can respect people plotting civil war and overthrow of a government more so that crap like that. So where do you feel the lines should be drawn ? where does the right to protest policy come up against both the states right to preserve order and anothers individual right to disagree with the protestor ?
Saturday, April 8, 2006 12:44 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Righteous9: This story was all day news on every news station. It was a national scandal, and that's what the rest of us were raliing against....the absurdity of your witch hunt...
Quote:Originally posted by SevenPercent: Had they made their criticism, and lost fans, as you state, it should have ended there. But you take issue with lefties corrupting their message without taking issue with what this song refers to - the fact that when they made the comments, they got death threats from the right-wing side of the aisle. I heard an interview with Natalie Maines (sp?) on the radio, and that's what the new song refers to. They were blacklisted from country radio (which should never have happened) and had threats made against the lives of their families. Instead of saying, 'hey, we respect your right to say things we don't agree with,' they were called traitors or worse.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 1:30 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:I made my bed and I sleep like a baby With no regrets and I don’t mind sayin’ It’s a sad sad story when a mother will teach her Daughter that she ought to hate a perfect stranger And how in the world can the words that I said Send somebody so over the edge That they’d write me a letter Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing Or my life will be over I’m not ready to make nice I’m not ready to back down I’m still mad as hell and I don’t have time to go round and round and round It’s too late to make it right I probably wouldn’t if I could ‘Cause I’m mad as hell Can’t bring myself to do what it is you think I should Forgive, sounds good Forget, I’m not sure I could They say time heals everything But I’m still waiting
Quote:Song: State Of The Union Artist: Xzibit (host of MTV's Pimp My Ride) Album: Weapons of Mass Destruction (not in Xzibit's movie XXX: State of the Union) (applause) And now a message from the President of the United States (George W. Bush actual voice remixed) Tonight I wanna take a few minutes to dicuss a great threat to peace. The dictator who is assembling the world's most dangerous weapons, is here in our own country. He is a homicidal dictator, who is addict to weapons of mass destruction. He has proven he is capable of any crime. The tyrant is me. I have directed the administration to support the use of violence against all of you. I will kill thousands, or hundreds of thousands of innocent people in our country and across the world. I um, resolve to bring sudden terror and suffering with horrible poisons, and diseases, and gases. Men and women, boys and girls, thousands of civilians will be killed in a single day, murdered at random, and with out remorse. My ultimate ambitions are to control the peoples of the United States, and to blackmail the rest of the world with weapons of mass terror. Weapons of Mass Destruction.
Quote:Spirit of 76 - 76% of voters vote to impeach and arrest Bush, Cheney & Gang Vermont community favors removing president. The article, approved 121-29 in balloting by paper, calls on Vermont's lone member of the House, Independent Rep. Bernie Sanders, to file articles of impeachment against the president, alleging that Bush misled the nation into the Iraq war and engaged in illegal domestic spying. Other cities nationwide have taken up resolutions calling for Bush's impeachment, notably San Francisco. At least three other southern Vermont towns endorsed similar resolutions. www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/article/0,1406,KNS_350_4522736,00.html
Quote:Generals gathered in their masses, just like witches at black masses. Evil minds that plot destruction, sorcerers of death's construction. In the fields the bodies burning, as the war machine keeps turning. Death and hatred to mankind, poisoning their brainwashed minds. Oh lord, yeah! Politicians hide themselves away. They only started the war. Why should they go out to fight? They leave that role to the poor, yeah. Time will tell on their power minds, making war just for fun. Treating people just like pawns in chess, wait till their judgement day comes, yeah. Now in darkness world stops turning, ashes where the bodies burning. No more War Pigs have the power, Hand of God has struck the hour. Day of judgement, God is calling, on their knees the war pigs crawling. Begging mercies for their sins, Satan, laughing, spreads his wings. Oh lord, yeah! -Black Sabbath, War Pigs MUSIC VIDEO DOWNLOAD - CENSORED FIRST VERSE: www.ericblumrich.com/warpig.html (lots of bands are playing this song these days)
Quote:Assuming the role of comedian in chief, President Bush poked fun at everyone from heavy metal legend Ozzy Osbourne to Hillary Clinton at the annual White House Correspondents Dinner on Saturday. Osbourne, the star of the hit MTV reality series "The Osbournes," upstaged the rest of the illuminati and basically stole the show. When Bush mentioned Osbourne by name, the aging rock legend climbed up on a chair and threw his arms in the air, drawing wild cheers and prompting Bush to say, "OK, Ozzy ... Might have been a mistake." Bush jokingly hailed Osbourne for making such recordings as "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath," "Face in Hell," and "Bloodbath in Paradise," saying "Ozzy, Mom loves your stuff." Osbourne was once banned from Texas for urinating on the Alamo, so the joke about Cheney peeing was not completely random. Bush showed a series of photos of top administration officials peering through a peephole that looks into the Oval Office, followed by a staged photo in which Cheney was shown from the back with his hands in front of him, suggesting he might be relieving himself on the door. http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/weekly/aa050502a.htm
Saturday, April 8, 2006 5:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: On Laura's book, Shut Up and Sing, I think it's a valid position she takes. That entertainers think their opinions carry more weight than anyone else simply because of who they are - entertainers. If one is well informed or passionate about something, they should take the time to understand the issue. Sadly, most don't. Most tend to read 1 article or see a few soundbites worth of news, and suddenly they feel 'enlightened'. It's pathetic.
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:42 PM
Saturday, April 8, 2006 6:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Sayin’ that I better shut up and sing I wonder if those lines were an intentional reply to Laura Ingrahams book....
Quote:Drowning Pool "Bodies" Mudvayne "Death Blooms" Megadeth "Dread and the Fugitive" Megadeth "Sweating Bullets" Saliva "Click Click Boom" P.O.D. "Boom" Metallica "Seek and Destroy" Metallica "Harvester or Sorrow" Metallica "Enter Sandman" Metallica "Fade to Black" All Rage Against The Machine songs Nine Inch Nails "Head Like a Hole" Godsmack "Bad Religion" Tool "Intolerance" Soundgarden "Blow Up the Outside World" AC/DC "Shot Down in Flames" AC/DC "Shoot to Thrill" AC/DC "Dirty Deeds" AC/DC "Highway to Hell" AC/DC "Safe in New York City" AC/DC "TNT" AC/DC "Hell's Bells" Black Sabbath "War Pigs" Black Sabbath "Sabbath Bloody Sabbath" Black Sabbath "Suicide Solution" Dio "Holy Diver" Steve Miller "Jet Airliner" Van Halen "Jump" Queen "Another One Bites the Dust" Queen "Killer Queen" Pat Benatar "Hit Me with Your Best Shot" Pat Benatar "Love is a Battlefield" Oingo Boingo "Dead Man's Party" REM "It's the End of the World as We Know It" Talking Heads "Burning Down the House" Judas Priest "Some Heads Are Gonna Roll" Pink Floyd "Run Like Hell" Pink Floyd "Mother" Savage Garden "Crash and Burn" Dave Matthews Band "Crash Into Me" Bangles "Walk Like an Egyptian" Pretenders "My City Was Gone" Alanis Morissette "Ironic" Barenaked Ladies "Falling for the First Time" Fuel "Bad Day" John Parr "St. Elmo's Fire" Peter Gabriel "When You're Falling" Kansas "Dust in the Wind" Led Zeppelin "Stairway to Heaven" The Beatles "A Day in the Life" The Beatles "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" The Beatles "Ticket To Ride" The Beatles "Obla Di, Obla Da" Bob Dylan/Guns N Roses "Knockin' on Heaven's Door" Arthur Brown "Fire" Blue Oyster Cult "Burnin' For You" Paul McCartney and Wings "Live and Let Die" Jimmy Hendrix "Hey Joe" Jackson Brown "Doctor My Eyes" John Mellencamp "Crumbling Down" John Mellencamp "I'm On Fire" U2 "Sunday Bloody Sunday" Boston "Smokin" Billy Joel "Only the Good Die Young" Barry McGuire "Eve of Destruction" Steam "Na Na Na Na Hey Hey" Drifters "On Broadway" Shelly Fabares "Johnny Angel" Los Bravos "Black is Black" Peter and Gordon "I Go To Pieces" Peter and Gordon "A World Without Love" Elvis "(You're the) Devil in Disguise" Zombies "She's Not There" Elton John "Benny & The Jets" Elton John "Daniel" Elton John "Rocket Man" Jerry Lee Lewis "Great Balls of Fire" Santana "Evil Ways" Louis Armstrong "What A Wonderful World" Youngbloods "Get Together" Ad Libs "The Boy from New York City" Peter Paul and Mary "Blowin' in the Wind" Peter Paul and Mary "Leavin' on a Jet Plane" Rolling Stones "Ruby Tuesday" Simon And Garfunkel "Bridge Over Troubled Water" Happenings "See You in Septemeber" Carole King "I Feel the Earth Move" Yager and Evans "In the Year 2525" Norman Greenbaum "Spirit in the Sky" Brooklyn Bridge "Worst That Could Happen" Three Degrees "When Will I See You Again" Cat Stevens "Peace Train" Cat Stevens "Morning Has Broken" Jan and Dean "Dead Man's Curve" Martha & the Vandellas "Nowhere to Run" Martha and the Vandellas/Van Halen "Dancing in the Streets" Hollies "He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother" San Cooke Herman Hermits, "Wonder World" Petula Clark "A Sign of the Times" Don McLean "American Pie" J. Frank Wilson "Last Kiss" Buddy Holly and the Crickets "That'll Be the Day" John Lennon "Imagine" Bobby Darin "Mack the Knife" The Clash "Rock the Casbah" Surfaris "Wipeout" Blood Sweat and Tears "And When I Die" Dave Clark Five "Bits and Pieces" Tramps "Disco Inferno" Paper Lace "The Night Chicago Died" Frank Sinatra "New York, New York" Creedence Clearwater Revival "Travelin' Band" The Gap Band "You Dropped a Bomb On Me" Alien Ant Farm "Smooth Criminal" 3 Doors Down "Duck and Run" The Doors "The End" Third Eye Blind "Jumper" Neil Diamond "America" Lenny Kravitz "Fly Away" Tom Petty "Free Fallin'" Bruce Springsteen "I'm On Fire" Bruce Springsteen "Goin' Down" Phil Collins "In the Air Tonight" Alice in Chains "Rooster" Alice in Chains "Sea of Sorrow" Alice in Chains "Down in a Hole" Alice in Chains "Them Bone" Beastie Boys "Sure Shot" Beastie Boys "Sabotage" The Cult "Fire Woman" Everclear "Santa Monica" Filter "Hey Man, Nice Shot" Foo Fighters "Learn to Fly" Korn "Falling Away From Me" Red Hot Chili Peppers "Aeroplane" Red Hot Chili Peppers "Under the Bridge" Smashing Pumpkins "Bullet With Butterfly Wings" System of a Down "Chop Suey!" Skeeter Davis "End of the World" Rickey Nelson "Travelin' Man" Chi-Lites "Have You Seen Her" Animals "We Gotta Get Out of This Place" Fontella Bass "Rescue Me" Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels "Devil with the Blue Dress" James Taylor "Fire and Rain" Edwin Starr/Bruce Springstein "War" Lynyrd Skynyrd "Tuesday's Gone" Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff" Green Day "Brain Stew" Temple of the Dog "Say Hello to Heaven" Sugar Ray "Fly" Local H "Bound for the Floor" Slipknot "Left Behind, Wait and Bleed" Bush "Speed Kills" 311 "Down" Stone Temple Pilots "Big Bang Baby," Dead and Bloated" Soundgarden "Fell on Black Days," Black Hole Sun" Nina "99 Luft Balloons/99 Red Balloons" www.fuckedcompany.com/extras/clearchannel_email.cfm
Quote:Jose Felicano & The Doors - Light My Fire Something Happens - "Parachute" The Cure - Killing an Arab Little angels - Bone yard Massive Attack had the word "attack" dropped during the gulf war. Bomb the Bass also suffered during this period. Abba Waterloo A-ha Hunting High And Low Alarm 68 Guns Animals We Got To Get Out Of This Place 5. Arrival I Will Survive 6. Joan Baez The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down 7. Bangles Walk Like An Egyptian 8. The Beatles Back In The USSR 9. Pat Benetar Love Is A Battlefield Big Country Fields Of Fire Blondie Atomic Boomtown Rats Don't Like Mondays Brook Bros. Warpaint Arthur Brown Fire Kate Bush Army Dreamers Cher Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down) Eric Clapton I Shot The Sheriff Phil Collins In The Air Tonight Cutting Crew I Just Died In Your Arms Tonight Skeeter Davies End Of The World Desmond Dekker Israelites Dire Straits Brothers In Arms Duran Duran View To A Kill Jose Feliciano Light My Fire First Choice Armed And Extremely Dangerous Roberta Flack Killing Me Softly Frankie Goes To Hollywood Two Tribes Eddie Grant Living On The Frontline Eddie Grant Give Me Hope Joanna Elton John Saturday Night's Alright For Fighting Johnny Hates Jazz I Don't Want To Be A Hero John Lennon Give Peace A Chance John Lennon Imagine Jona Louis Stop The Cavalry Lulu Boom Bang A Bang McGuinness Flint When I'm Dead And Gone Bob Marley Buffalo Soldier Maria Muldaur Midnight At The Oasis M*A*S*H Suicide Is Painless Mike And The Mechanics Silent Running Rick Nelson Fools Rush In Nicole A Little Peace Billy Ocean When The Going Gets Tough Donny Osmond Soldier Of Love Paper Lace Billy Don't Be A Hero Queen Killer Queen Queen Flash Martha Reeves Forget Me Not B.A. Robertson Bang Bang Tom Robinson War Baby Kenny Rogers Ruby (Don't Take Your Love To Town) Spandau Ballet I'll Fly For You Specials Ghost Town Bruce Springsteen I'm On Fire Edwin Starr War Status Quo In The Army Now Status Quo Burning Bridges Cat Stevens I'm Gonna Get Me A Gun Rod Stewart Sailing Donna Summer State Of Independence Tears For Fears Everybody Wants To Rule The World Temptations Ball Of Confusion 10 CC Rubber Bullets Stevie Wonder Heaven Help Us All www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/banned.html
Quote:In these days of mainstream rock and punk you have to be somewhat dubious about the whole movement, but the scream have history and these boys aint scared to fucking rock the shit out of the place, it was only a week before Sept. 11th when Bobby Gillespie was screaming BOMB BOMB the PENTAGON at the shepherds bush empire!!!!! www.step-on.co.uk/primalscream.htm www.primal-scream.net
Quote: Communist Party Music - Boots Riley is pushing a bomb detonator labelled "COVERT LABS" 3 months BEFORE 9/11 - Communism Manifesto was written by Jewish Luciferian Freemason Karl Marx in London England - click link to see other CDs with precognition of the 9/11 "surprise" attacks http://seekers.100megs6.com/photos.htm According to The Washington Post, the newspaper that is the pillar of the establishment's global media empire, the album Party Music, by the hip-hop rap group, The Coup, topped all other musical works produced last year. The Coup album was praised to the hilt by The Washington Post staff writer and music critic David Segal. Segal said the album Party Music demonstrates "jarring in-genuity, soul, and wit." Segal wrote that the songs on the album are "masterfully entertaining" and "doggone funky." These are hip-hop's "finest rhymes this year," Segal gushed. We are not surprised that an Illuminist publication like the Post would find such great merit in an album chockfull of murderous, pro-Communist lyrics, with tunes performed by a music group that has devoted itself to the destruction of American capitalism. Readers of Power of Prophecy will recall that in our October edition, we were the first to expose the disgusting, original cover art of the very album that The Washington Post raves about as this year's "Best Album" on planet earth. That cover depicted Boots Riley, the band's leader, and another member of The Coup merrily blowing up the twin towers of the World Trade Center in New York. Riley, son of a Black Panther lawyer, is unrepentant. One of the songs on this album so praised by the liberal media's chief newspaper is titled, "5 Million Ways to Kill a (Corporate) CEO." The lyrics of this song encourage listeners to kidnap, beat up, and murder corporate CEOs, then put "lead boots" on them and toss their dead bodies into a river. Just keep on killing and killing, the song urges, cause, "the party don't end." Incidentally, Warner Elektra, one of the nation's top music labels, is the producer and distributor of this sickening trash they and their pals in the Illuminati controlled media call music. by Prof Texe Marrs, PhD, Capt, USAF Intelligence, Power of Prophesy Radio www.texemarrs.com/032002/the_coup_album_lauded.htm Quote:"There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows." —Katharine Graham, chairman of Washington Post Company, lecturing CIA agents at CIA HQ in Langley, Virginia (promoted after the previous chairman, her Jewish husband Philip Graham, allegedly murdered himself) "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." —William Colby, Director CIA, assassinated 60,000 people via CIA Death Squads in Vietnam Wars with Phoenix Project ("drowned" in a suspicious "canoe crash" while cooking dinner in Washington DC, waiting to testify against Bush crime family at Iran-Contra hearings in Congress and fed court)
Quote:"There are some things the general public does not need to know and shouldn't. I believe democracy flourishes when the government can take legitimate steps to keep its secrets and when the press can decide whether to print what it knows." —Katharine Graham, chairman of Washington Post Company, lecturing CIA agents at CIA HQ in Langley, Virginia (promoted after the previous chairman, her Jewish husband Philip Graham, allegedly murdered himself) "The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." —William Colby, Director CIA, assassinated 60,000 people via CIA Death Squads in Vietnam Wars with Phoenix Project ("drowned" in a suspicious "canoe crash" while cooking dinner in Washington DC, waiting to testify against Bush crime family at Iran-Contra hearings in Congress and fed court)
Quote: After a mild hiatus Paris returns with his most pointedly-focused and brutal condemnation of the ills of society to date. Waging righteous warfare (hence the title) on all that he perceives as being wrong with the world in this current political climate of manufactured fear and "War on Terror," he covers such issues as the New World Order, the manmade origins of AIDS, military lies and propaganda, police brutality and the embarrassing state that hip hop is currently in. The first single, "What Would You Do?" has already been a lightning-rod for controversy in the United States, garnering coverage from such notable sources as MTV2, The New York Times and MSNBC for it's suggestion that the Bush Administration played a key role in orchestrating the terror attacks of September 11, 2001. And it doesn't stop there -- the album also features progressive hip-hop visionaries Dead Prez, Public Enemy and Kam. Add dancehall sensation Capelton to this already impressive lineup and you have a potent molotov cocktail of an album ready to explode. The first casualty of War is the Truth. Upset by the cover? You should be, but for the right reasons. Read about the Bush Administration's involvement and the real motives behind the Attacks on America here. www.guerrillafunk.com/paris/sonic_jihad/ What Would You Do If You Found Out That The U.S. Was Responsible For The Terror Attacks On 9-11? How Would Your Perception Of This "War On Terror" Change? www.guerrillafunk.com/thoughts/doc1241a.html FREE VIDEO DOWNLOADS: www.guerrillafunk.com/multimedia
Quote: www.cafepress.com/piratenews Original Music Soundtrack for free MP3 download, by John Lee and Counter Coup. http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/07/6142.php Download Counter Coup's latest MP3: Boners at Bohemian Grove: http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/08/6389.php Music video downloads: www.September911Surprise.com
Saturday, April 8, 2006 7:47 PM
Sunday, April 9, 2006 3:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni: Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: On Laura's book, Shut Up and Sing, I think it's a valid position she takes. That entertainers think their opinions carry more weight than anyone else simply because of who they are - entertainers. If one is well informed or passionate about something, they should take the time to understand the issue. Sadly, most don't. Most tend to read 1 article or see a few soundbites worth of news, and suddenly they feel 'enlightened'. It's pathetic.
Monday, April 10, 2006 5:24 PM
G1223
Thursday, April 13, 2006 6:29 PM
Quote: Slash / McKagan / Rose Special Thanks Niven / James "What we've got here is failure to communicate." (KKK preacher from Porky's Revenge?) Some men you just can't reach... So, you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it! Well, he gets it! N' I don't like it any more than you men. Look at your young men fighting Look at your women crying Look at your young men dying The way they've always done before Look at the hate we're breeding Look at the fear we're feeding Look at the lives we're leading The way we've always done before My hands are tied The billions shift from side to side And the wars go on with brainwashed pride For the love of God and our human rights And all these things are swept aside By bloody hands time can't deny And are washed away by your genocide And history hides the lies of our civil wars D'you wear a black armband When they shot the man Who said "Peace could last forever" And in my first memories THEY shot Kennedy I went numb when I learned to see So I never fell for Vietnam We got the wall of D.C. to remind us all That you can't trust freedom When it's not in your hands When everybody's fightin' For their promised land And I don't need your civil war It feeds the rich while it buries the poor Your power hungry sellin' soldiers In a human grocery store Ain't that fresh I don't need your civil war Look at the shoes your filling Look at the blood we're spilling Look at the world we're killing The way we've always done before Look in the doubt we've wallowed Look at the leaders we've followed Look at the lies we've swallowed And I don't want to hear no more My hands are tied For all I've seen has changed my mind But still the wars go on as the years go by With no love of God or human rights 'Cause all these dreams are swept aside By bloody hands of the hypnotized Who carry the cross of homicide And history bears the scars of our civil wars We practice selective annihilation of mayors And government officials For example to create a vacuum Then we fill that vacuum As popular war advances Peace is closer I don't need your civil war It feeds the rich while it buries the poor Your power hungry sellin' soldiers In a human grocery store Ain't that fresh And I don't need your civil war No No No No No No No No I don't need your civil war I don't need your civil war Your power hungry sellin' soldiers In a human grocery store Ain't that fresh I don't need your civil war I don't need one more war I don't need one more war Whaz so civil 'bout war anyway www.weboshawa.com/gnr_lyrics.htm
Quote: www.aztlanunderground.com COVER OF HOT NEW ALBUM: MEXICANS SHOWN SPEARING AMERICAN "PIGS" Lyrics 506 years of indigenous resistance The prophecies are coming true The redemption of the red people has come! The 6th sun now arises The 7th fire has arrived Cihuatl is reclaiming We have returned to Aztlan We have returned to Aztlan!!!! WE DIDN'T CROSS THE BORDERS, THE BORDERS CROSSED US YET THE SETTLER NATION LIVES IN DISGUST!! GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK OUT, GET THE FUCK, FUCK, FUCK OUT GET THE FUCK OUT WASICHU (White Man) EATER OF THE FAT WASTER OF EARTH MOTHER AND PEOPLE COLONIZER OF AZTLAN AND THE WORLD GET THE FUCK OUT!!!! www.americanpatrol.com/FEATURES/010421AZTLANRAP/FeatureAztlanRap010421.html
Saturday, April 22, 2006 7:48 PM
Quote: God Bless Neil Young But why does it take a 60 year old Canadian musician to generate political activism in America? Steve Watson Prisonplanet.com UK April 22 2006 As an avid Neil Young fan of a few years now I am so happy to see him take an important stance against the criminal NeoCons in the White House and the illegal activities they are perpetrating at home and elsewhere. Known for his straight talking, confessional lyrical style, Young will hold back nothing on hastily penned new album "living with war" which will be an all out assault on the Bush crime syndicate. It seems that Young has woken up from his slumber and realised that the unconscionable actions of the criminal elite must be addressed and not simply sugar coated and quietly accepted as part of a "post 9/11 mentality". The centerpiece of the album is surely the song entitled "Let's impeach the president". No one else within the music industry has had the guts to pen such a brazen personal attack on Bush and the Neocons. Young 's words here are savage and blatant and he should be commended. Furthermore, there is certainly no feeling of phony leftism about the lyrics, a charge that has been leveled against many other protest songs that have come before. Quote:Let's impeach the president for lying Misleading our country into war Abusing all the power that we gave him And shipping all our money out the door The song goes on to address the Regime's criminality, spying, the mess they made of post-Katrina New Orleans, hijacking "our religion" for partisan purposes, as well as how they have used divisiveness and racism to further their political agenda. Young backs up his lyrics with Bush's own words, turning his inspid/Orwellian diatribe on tape against him as the song is transformed from a hard rocker into a soaring gospel inspirational. "You're always going to rub somebody the wrong way when you sing 'let's impeach the president,' " Young said. "But that's what this country's all about — being able to express your views." In response to the frighteningly routine, ridiculous and ignorant accusations that Young is being "unpatriotic", he responded: "We don't all have to believe in what our President believes in order to be Patriotic." Neil Young is a guy who, like many, was sucked into the phony patriotism after 9/11, rallying around Bush and speaking out in favour of the PATRIOT act. Yet his abrupt about face without fear of re-crimination is admirable given that many others within the entertainment industry have not dared to speak out at all. Furthermore, other celebrities that have spoken out , seem to be stuck firmly within the false left/right paradigm and their words tend to be cliched and cringe worthy. Take Madonna for example, who warned us all that "9/11 was ambiguous" yet government involvement could not be proven, reinforcing the hollow limited hangout of the impotent left-wing Michael Moore school of whitewashing. She is a celebrity who clearly only thinks in terms of her image. Young on the other hand cares less about his own image and record sales and more about freedom in America. Yes he has flip flopped politically all his career, ranging from protesting against Nixon in the 70s to staunchly supporting Regan in the 80s, but always with the notion that freedom in America is sacred. "Shock And Awe" is another lyrically powerful song on the record. As Howie Klein of the "Down with Tyranny" blog suggests, let's hope that the mentality that inspired Young's "Shock and Awe" will be remembered long beyond the mentality that inspired Bush's shock and awe. Quote:Back in the days of shock and awe We came to liberate them all History was the cruel judge of overconfidence Back in the days of shock and awe. Our "chief" was landing on the deck The sun was setting on a golden photo op Back in the days of "mission accomplished" Thousands of bodies in the ground Brought home in boxes to a trumpet's sound no one sees them coming home that way thousands buried in the ground Thousands of children scarred for life Millions of tears for a soldier's wife Both sides are losing now... Although Neil Young's words are moving and poignant, one must ask why is it that it is a 60 year old Canadian that is having to remind us America is being destroyed by our so called leaders? Why must we rely on someone like Young in order to inspire some kind of political activism in America today? Young himself has said "I was waiting for someone to come along, some young singer 18 to 22 years old, to write these songs and stand up ...I waited a long time. Then, I decided that maybe the generation that has to do this is still the '60s generation." What is wrong with the youth of today? Is this indicative of the fact that kids today do not even understand what freedom is supposed to be? Have the Orwellian attempts of the Neocons to transform the meaning of "freedom" into "slavery", with terms such as "PATRIOT act", "Mission accomplished" and "New freedom", begun to succeed? I am 26 years old, I am in the prime of my life, and to see the generation below me systematically ignoring and dismissing everything I have grown up knowing is cherished and sacred is very scary. God bless him, but what are we going to do in another generation's time when artists like Neil Young and others in the limelight are no longer here to remind us just what America and freedom is supposed to be? www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/220406_b_Young.htm What's with the Bohemian Grove hobbits? www.postersnthings.com/posters/R.htm Neil Young 'Living with War' Writer: Michelle Garcia Soulshine Canada 2006-04-17 The Canadian music hall of famer and former member of Buffalo Springfield and Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young is responsible for hits like “Southern Man”, “Heart of Gold” and “Harvest Moon”. But on his newest record, rumored to be titled Living with the War, Young is taking a page from Bob Dylan and putting together an album of protest songs against the actions of American President George W. Bush. One of the tracks on the upcoming release, which as of yet has no release date, is said to feature the single “Let’s Impeach the President” whose subject is fairly obvious. Not a stranger to protest music the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young tune “Ohio” was written in reaction to a protest against the Vietnam War. www.soulshine.ca/news/newsarticle.php?nid=3294
Quote:Let's impeach the president for lying Misleading our country into war Abusing all the power that we gave him And shipping all our money out the door
Quote:Back in the days of shock and awe We came to liberate them all History was the cruel judge of overconfidence Back in the days of shock and awe. Our "chief" was landing on the deck The sun was setting on a golden photo op Back in the days of "mission accomplished" Thousands of bodies in the ground Brought home in boxes to a trumpet's sound no one sees them coming home that way thousands buried in the ground Thousands of children scarred for life Millions of tears for a soldier's wife Both sides are losing now...
Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:56 PM
Quote: ALBUM HEADS TO INTERNET FIRST By Steve Gorman Friday, April 21, 2006 LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Neil Young's newly recorded protest album "Living With War," including a song calling for the impeachment of U.S. President George W. Bush, will be posted for free Internet streaming next week, his label said on Friday. Starting April 28, fans can log onto Young's Web site, www.neilyoung.com, and listen to the 10-track collection in its entirety, free of charge, said Bill Bentley, a spokesman for Warner Music Group's Reprise Records. The album will first become commercially available as a digital download beginning May 2, "and we plan to get it into retail stores as soon after that as we can get them manufactured," Bentley said. He said the label anticipates getting the album into retail outlets between May 5 and May 15. "Neil wants this album out there as soon as possible," Bentley added. www.livingwithwar.blogspot.com
Quote:Neil Young's LIVING WITH WAR: 'It may just be the Fahrenheit 9/11 of rock' Guest Blogged by Jim Cirile Neil Young wants to keep on rockin' the free world. His new record, Living With War, makes very clear that if the Bush regime is allowed to continue, there may not be a free world to rock for much longer. At 7:30 PM on Friday, April 21, 2006, Reprise Records’ Dan Rose ushered a small cadre of us into a Reprise's Burbank headquarters for an exclusive listen to Young’s new CD. For the next 50 minutes, listen we did. Let's get one thing out of the way right now: this album rocks. It's post '80s electric Neil Young at his grunge best, and of the 10 cuts on Living With War, the first eight are mostly uptempo rockers. In fact, this may be the 60-year-old Young’s most crossover-worthy album yet, since many of the songs should appeal to fans of bands as diverse as Green Day and Pearl Jam and will likely be embraced on campuses across America. But there's one other tiny thing that makes this record stand out: it is one mother%^&*#% of a protest album. In fact, Living With War may just be the Fahrenheit 9/11 of rock… The album kicks off with the tight wistful rocker, "After the Garden." Its strong hook sets the tone by hearkening back to Woodstock—remember what we were fighting for in the '60s, folks? It's all been dashed. Next up: "Living With War," a good cut that had toes tapping. But the room really came alive with the third cut, "Restless Consumer," a headbanging indictment of both American consumerism and the manipulation of the public by the corporate media. Young breaks into an almost rap-style rant in the choruses, with the refrain, "We don’t need no more lies!" No, we do not. The fourth cut, "Shock and Awe," skewers our botched "liberation" of Iraq due to hubris and deliberately falsified intel. By this point it is clear Young is not pulling any punches. The lyrics are sometimes heart-wrenching, sometimes humorous, sometimes laden with uncomfortable truth. Cuts 5 and 6, "Families" and "Flags of Freedom" examine the effect of war on us all, and "Flags" stops you dead with this thought-provoking lyric, "Do you think that you believe in yours more than they do theirs somehow?" But Young kicks out the proverbial jams with the album's centerpiece, "Let's Impeach the President." This song is a blistering, barnstorming indictment of our Commander-in-Thief, and Young borrows a page from Michael Moore here by letting Bush destroy himself with his own words. In the song's midsection, Bush's own recorded contradictory statements are juxtaposed against one another to create an incontrovertible pastiche of lies and contradictions while the background singers chant, "Flip… Flop… Flip… Flop…" Incendiary. The CD is worth buying for this one song alone. The tone grows wistful again (but with a ray of hope) in "Looking for a Leader," in which Young hopes someone, anyone, will step up to clean out the corruption—"Maybe it's Obama, but he thinks that he's too young… Maybe it's a woman, or a black man after all…" The CD finally downshifts with the tender, slower "Roger and Out," a look back on the "old hippie highway" and the fresh and perhaps naïve ideals of youth. Finally, Young closes with a showstopper—a full choral version of "America the Beautiful," featuring a 100-person choir. No gimmicks here—it is simply a traditional and deeply moving rendition of the song which, after the rest of Living With War, makes it quite clear that Young not only loves America, but wants to see it returned to its former glory. Soon. The really remarkable thing is that the CD captures a live sound like few others do. It really sounds like you're in the room with Young and his 3-piece band as they blaze through the tunes. The album was recorded in a week with minimal overdubs, and this contributes an amazing vitality and urgency to the whole package. The choir and occasional trumpet add zing to an otherwise hard-rockin' bass-guitar-drum assault. Says Reprise's Dan Rose, "We prefer to let the music speak for itself," and that it does—in volumes. If you're a fan of Young's, buy this. If you're not, consider buying it anyway. Young is saying out loud what most of America is feeling right now and what the corporate media refuses to allow to be said. Rock and roll at its best has always been about rebellion. And just in time, Living With War gives it to us in spades. Album spokesmen say the album will be released online in the next week or so, before it reaches stores. For more info, please visit www.neilyoung.com and www.livingwithwar.blogspot.com Thanks to Justice Through Music for helping us to coordinate this review. They have now set up a special page to cover the release of the album. www.jtmp.org/NeilYoung.htm Quote:Jim, Thanks for your report on your experience last night. I think the world needs to hear what you heard.... I am not a Neil Young fan... but something tells me that I will be after I buy this CD! Once again, I ask these same questions of Mr. Young that I've been asking of everyone of our movement... Where the SHEOL was he in 1994 when the neo-cons took over Congress? Where was this album in 1998 when the neo-con House impeached Clinton? Where was this protest in 2000 when Bush usurped the Presidency? Where was it in 2001 when Americans were losing their jobs en masse to India, China, Russia and Brazil? Where was it in 2002-2003 when Bush and the neo-cons lied to us to get us ready for Illegal War? Where was it two years ago when Karl Rove stole the re-"election" of Bush? It's easier to fight it now that the country is moving back to our view of things... but I was fighting this coup-de-etat (did I spell that right???) fron day one. The one good point of this is that this CD may help stop Illegal War Part II in Iran.
Quote:Jim, Thanks for your report on your experience last night. I think the world needs to hear what you heard.... I am not a Neil Young fan... but something tells me that I will be after I buy this CD! Once again, I ask these same questions of Mr. Young that I've been asking of everyone of our movement... Where the SHEOL was he in 1994 when the neo-cons took over Congress? Where was this album in 1998 when the neo-con House impeached Clinton? Where was this protest in 2000 when Bush usurped the Presidency? Where was it in 2001 when Americans were losing their jobs en masse to India, China, Russia and Brazil? Where was it in 2002-2003 when Bush and the neo-cons lied to us to get us ready for Illegal War? Where was it two years ago when Karl Rove stole the re-"election" of Bush? It's easier to fight it now that the country is moving back to our view of things... but I was fighting this coup-de-etat (did I spell that right???) fron day one. The one good point of this is that this CD may help stop Illegal War Part II in Iran.
Sunday, April 23, 2006 3:03 PM
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Quote:LISTEN TO THE INTERVIEW www.apolloaudio.com/lt.asp?name=AA32 READ THE TRANSCRIPT www.arthurmag.com/magpie/?p=1244 TALKING TO GODSMACK (WHOSE ALBUM IS NO. 1 ON THE CHARTS) ABOUT WHAT THEY USE THEIR MUSIC FOR Jay Babcock ARTHUR Magazine 05/06/2006 Godsmack are a millionaire hard rock band who have sold millions of records in the last 8 years. Their fourth album, “IV,” was released on April 25. It sold 211,000 copies in its first week in the USA to debut at Number One on the Billboard chart. Several weeks previous, I had been solicited by Godsmack’s record label and publicist for press coverage. Ken Phillips, the band’s publicist told me on May 3, after the interview had been conducted, that he had “assumed that it would be a feature about the new cd, tour and what the band has been doing since the last release.” The latter is all that I was able to discuss with Godsmack frontman/lyricist/producer Sully Erna on Monday, May 1 by telephone before he hung up on me mid-sentence, and refused to answer any further questions over the following days.
Quote:PENTAGON CONTRACTOR: Godsmack - Awake www.godsmack.com/albums/album_detail.asp?album_id=534 Pentagon Recruitment Video: "Sick Of Life" Paralyzed. Nothing's getting through to me. Hypnotized from all my surroundings. I wanna be something I could never be. I wanna say things that I could never say. Yeah, I'm gonna do it again! Sick of my life. I'm tired of everything in my life. Dragged down. Rubbing my face in the ground. No time for the undecided. I wanna know why I've always felt alone, And I wanna love. Why am I untouchable? Yeah, I'm gonna do it again! Sick of my life. I'm tired of everything in my life. I never wanted to be sick of my life. I'm tired of everything in my life. Pentagon Recruitment Video: "Awake" Wait another minute. Can't you see what this pain has f**king done to me. I'm alive and still kickin'. What you see I can't see and maybe you'll think before you speak. I'm alive for you. I'm awake because of you. I'm alive I told you. I'm awake swallowing you Take another second. Turn your back on me and make believe that you're always happy. It's safe to say you're never alive. A big part of you has died and by the way, I hope you're satisfied. Tearing it back unveiling me. Taking a step back so I can breathe. Hear the silence about to break. Fear resistance when I'm awake. AN AFTERWORD FROM JAY BABCOCK, SATURDAY MAY 6, REGARDING THIS INTERVIEW Regarding the nature of the questions that were put to Sully: it was determined by what’s unique about this band, which is their public pro-military, pro-war stance and the extent of their involvement with US military recruiting campaigns. They’ve spoken about this stuff in public before, so there was no reason for me to think that they wouldn’t be willing to speak about it again. Thus, the interview. After Sully hung up on me, I called back. The band’s publicist, Ken Phillips, told me that Sully had emerged from the room shouting at the top of his lungs, and he wasn’t sure if he could get him back on the phone with me so that we could talk about the album, Wicca, karma — all interests of Sully’s — that I had hoped to explore. Two days later I was told by Phillips that there would be no further interviewing and the band would rather the feature not run. Why? Who knows? Perhaps it’s the way Sully charachterizes people who join the military as guys who want to jump out of helicopters and shoot people and use infrared goggles. That doesn’t really jibe well with them being “brave souls” or honorable freedom-prtoecting people, does it? Perhaps it has to do with Sully’s attitude towards the Navy’s recruiting efforts. Essentially he is saying that the Navy wasted their money by licensing Godsmack music for their advertisements, since the music has no influence/impact — none, zero — on the viewers. And so on. I suppose to a degree it’s like shooting fish in a barrel, but… lives are on the line. People need to be held accountable. I’ve been trying to interview this band since 2003. I finally got my chance. It’s stimulated a ton of discussion — check out blabbermouth.net’s various threads, or the number of blogs and rock news sites that are now picking this up, or the comments below, or the endless barrage of juvenile hatemail we’ve been receiving — and it’s embarassed the band into silence on the issue, which is better than the jingoism they’d been spouting previously. Finally: Please keep in mind that Sully is a MILLIONAIRE living in a comfortable life. His band is using their music to help recruit poor, under-educated, foolish, impressionable kids into the military at a time of worthless, pointless war, the consequences of which we — all of us — will be feeling for the rest of our lives. If he doesn’t care to discuss this — all of this — he shouldn’t do interviews… especially with anti-war publications. www.arthurmag.com/magpie/?p=1244
Quote:Hero they get you ready to fight the fuse is ready to blow you shoot to kill on sight they call you g i joe you never wanted to stop the smell of burning flesh the hero marches alone across the highway of death it's not a matter of rights it's just a matter of war don't have a reason to fight they never had one before you're just a killing machine he's come to take you down we take the gas that we need and pump the blood on the ground they're gonna set you up so they can take you down they're gonna suck you dry they've left the blood to be found they're gonna rip you apart you're gonna burn at the stake cos when it's time to collect it's only heroes who pay N.W.O. all the locals hide their tears of regret open fire cos i love you to death sky high, with a heartache of stone you'll never see me cos i'm always alone how to love without a trace of dissent i'll buy the torture cos you pay for the rent tied high with a broken command you're all alone to the promised land i'm in love with this malicious intent you've been taken but you don't know it yet what you will know must never live to be found cos it's the subject of the eyes of the drowned Bush Sr: What we are looking at is a New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order A New World Order www.darklyrics.com/m/ministry.html NO W Ministry Evil Doer Tour 2004 http://ministry.freeloadmp3.com/houses-of-the-mole.html www.ministrymusic.org www.videocodezone.com/videos/m/ministry/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministry_(band) http://ministry.nebema.org
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