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Originally posted by AURaptor:
AGWists can't explain why co2 goes up but 18 years yields no global warming.

Kiki, you've got nodda.

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AGWists can't explain why co2 goes up but 18 years yields no global warming.
Kiki, you've got nodda. -rappy

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The combined average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces for August 2014 was record high for the month, at 0.75°C (1.35°F) above the 20th century average of 15.6°C (60.1°F), topping the previous record set in 1998.
The global land surface temperature was 0.99°C (1.78°F) above the 20th century average of 13.8°C (56.9°F), the second highest on record for August, behind 1998.
For the ocean, the August global sea surface temperature was 0.65°C (1.17°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.4°F). This record high departure from average not only beats the previous August record set in 2005 by 0.08°C (0.14°F), but also beats the previous all-time record set just two months ago in June 2014 by 0.03°C (0.05°F).

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, and BTW, it's "nada" ("nothing") not nodda.

That's our boy! Incompetent in two languages!

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Here ya go rappy.........you're right. The problem is growing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/california-drought-gifs_n_584
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And rappy skated past that "August is the hottest month on record." point.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
If it's a local event where AGW appears to be happening, then the warm-mongers call that 'climate'. But when it's a local event which disproves AGW, that's called " weather " , and only concerns people's own back yards.

Funny.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Who says? Yanno there are still people arguing about evolution.

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Evolution isn't being 'debated', it's being denied. Because, like you, evolution deniers are faith-based. They have a vested interest in believing. For a person like you, or them, there will never be enough facts to change that.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Second, I don't want our conversation to get lost among the trolling.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And rappy skated past that "August is the hottest month on record." point.

I'm beginning to react to rappy the same way I used to react to PN: "Someone let him back on the internet again"

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Anyway Second, just getting this past the detours.

So my question to you is: if climate change deniers maintain their beliefs by accepting or employing deliberate chicanery, who exactly will be convinced by better models?

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Part of my initial response is that this is incompatible with what's been called the 'deep government.' And that the people of the US have not - for nearly a century - used their power of numbers to radically challenge that government.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And rappy skated past that "August is the hottest month on record." point.

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Here ya go rappy.........you're right. The problem is growing.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/18/california-drought-gifs_n_584
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Yeah. It's called a 'drought'. Happens from time to time. Never very fun, either. Had one here, just a few years ago. Lakes with lots of dry, barren land between the water's edge and the treeline.

When rain doesn't fall as much and more water is used, by a large population, that's what happens.

Today, local lakes here are back up to full pull.


If it's a local event where AGW appears to be happening, then the warm-mongers call that 'climate'. But when it's a local event which disproves AGW, that's called " weather " , and only concerns people's own back yards.

Funny.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Who says? Yanno there are still people arguing about evolution.

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Lotta new finds in the world of paleontology this summer. Biggest dinosaur ever, biggest predator , and more amazing feathered dinosaurs.

More and more PHYSICAL evidence keeps being unearthed.

Not mere computer models, which rely on human input of " data ".


But good that evolution is still being debated. There is still much to understand on the topic.

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Second, I don't want our conversation to get lost among the trolling.

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Then do us all a favor dear and stop BEING the troll.

xoxo

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It's growing, not melting.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
We often hear that there is a “scientific consensus” about climate change. But as far as the computer models go, there isn’t a useful consensus at the level of detail relevant to assessing human influence. . . . The models roughly describe the shrinking extent of Arctic sea ice observed over the past two decades, but they fail to describe the comparable growth of Antarctic sea ice, which is now at a record high. . . . Any serious discussion of the changing climate must begin by acknowledging not only the scientific certainties, but also the uncertainties, especially in projecting the future. Recognizing those limits, rather than ignoring them, will lead to a more sober and ultimately more productive discussion of climate change and climate policies. To do otherwise is a great disservice to climate science itself.


- Steven Koonin, the undersecretary for science in the Energy Department during President Obama’s first term, wrote a pathbreaking piece in Saturday’s Wall Street Journal

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Myth of arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago...despite Al Gore's prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738653/Stunning-satellite-ima
ges-summer-ice-cap-thicker-covers-1-7million-square-kilometres-MORE-2-years-ago-despite-Al-Gore-s-prediction-ICE-FREE-now.html#ixzz3ByNPQFml

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
West Coast warming linked to naturally occurring changes

Naturally occurring changes in winds, not human-caused climate change, are responsible for most of the warming on land and in the sea along the West Coast of North America over the last century, a study has found.

The analysis challenges assumptions that the buildup of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere has been a significant driver of the increase in temperatures observed over many decades in the ocean and along the coastline from Alaska to California.

Changes in ocean circulation as a result of weaker winds were the main cause of about 1 degree Fahrenheit of warming in the northeast Pacific Ocean and nearby coastal land between 1900 and 2012, according to the analysis of ocean and air temperatures over that time. The study, conducted by researchers from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration and the University of Washington, was published Monday by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Natural, wind-driven climate patterns in the Pacific Ocean, such as El Niño and the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, are already known to exert a powerful influence on sea and land temperatures over years and even decades.


http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-pacific-warming-20140923-story.h
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( Science not so settled, after all )

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Emma Thompson would call that " bonkers ".

She should know, better than any dumb report. She's a popular public figure. That means something!

Fathom the hypocrisy of a government that requires every citizen to prove they are insured... but not everyone must prove they are a citizen

I'm just a red pill guy in a room full of blue pill addicts.

" AU, that was great, LOL!! " - Chrisisall

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