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Oh LOOK ! Atlanta more muderous than supposedly violent Chicago!
Thursday, June 14, 2012 1:48 PM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:25 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:36 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:39 PM
Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:49 PM
Thursday, June 14, 2012 2:56 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: If only Atlanta had been community organized, by The One...
Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:09 PM
Quote:Maybe its murder rate would be as low as Chicago's.
Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:12 PM
Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:22 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Thursday, June 14, 2012 3:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I hope you realize my reply was tongue firmly in cheek. Irony doesn't type very well.
Thursday, June 14, 2012 4:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: I hope you realize my reply was tongue firmly in cheek. Irony doesn't type very well. Hello, I often have the same problem with my humor. I grok. --Anthony
Thursday, June 14, 2012 7:24 PM
PIRATENEWS
John Lee, conspiracy therapist at Hollywood award-winner History Channel-mocked SNL-spoofed PirateNew.org wooHOO!!!!!!
Quote:"Abortions should be legally available in accordance with Roe v. Wade." -Barack Hussein Obama Soetoro "The mass of ignorant Negroes still breed carelessly and disastrously, so that the increase among Negroes, even more than the increase among whites, is from that portion of the population least intelligent and fit, and least able to rear their children properly. Colored people are like human weeds and are to be exterminated. We propose to hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. And we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members. Eugenics is the most adequate and thorough avenue to the solution of racial, political and social problems." -Margaret Sanger, director Planned Parenthood (now paid over $1-billion taxdollars to already genocide 100-million US citizens)
Thursday, June 14, 2012 11:00 PM
CATPIRATE
Friday, June 15, 2012 1:02 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Chicago keeps getting portrayed on this board by certain people with an ax to grind as if it's an ultra-violent product of decades Democratic (the party) rule. Those corrupt librul' mobster-union Obama-loving thugs!
Friday, June 15, 2012 5:00 AM
Quote:You do realize, I hope, that Atlanta has also had decades of Democratic (the party) rule, so it's probably not your best comparison.
Friday, June 15, 2012 6:30 AM
Friday, June 15, 2012 6:33 AM
Friday, June 15, 2012 2:21 PM
Quote:Originally posted by PIRATENEWS: Reality Check [...]
Friday, June 15, 2012 2:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by PIRATENEWS: Reality Check [...] The only thing untrue is that Black Americans are an endangered species. I have no doubt that a large percentage of that 25,196 abortions in Crook County in 2009 were black, but I have no doubt that a majority of those 75,744 births in Crook County were also black. The fact that white people will be a minority in this country isn't only due to the influx of Mexican migrants.
Friday, June 15, 2012 2:43 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by PIRATENEWS: Reality Check [...] The only thing untrue is that Black Americans are an endangered species. I have no doubt that a large percentage of that 25,196 abortions in Crook County in 2009 were black, but I have no doubt that a majority of those 75,744 births in Crook County were also black. The fact that white people will be a minority in this country isn't only due to the influx of Mexican migrants. Do you have a problem with white people being a minority?
Friday, June 15, 2012 2:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: But of SAFEST LARGE CITIES in the US - not a solidly republican one in the list. If crime is a result of party leanings, what does this say of democrats and republicans?
Quote:Or maybe, should we scrap that whole notion, Geezer?
Friday, June 15, 2012 3:14 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Quote:Originally posted by CATPIRATE: Right on Pirate News Service. Point out that the Demoncrats are pro abortion but their not racist. Women must not understand that abortion is major surgery. And it leaves inner scars beyond tissue. I don't understand with all the birth control who wants to go through that. Breaking a leg is bad enough or a root canal. I am old fashion. In my family children were kept or adopted out 30 years ago and well they are productive citizens. It showed me abortion is not the way to go. We might need those babies in the future. We all enjoy sex, drinking, drugs, and gambling but it has repercussion. Mature adults deal with it. Gambling is the ultimate high cause it's endless.
Friday, June 15, 2012 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Do you have a problem with white people being a minority?
Friday, June 15, 2012 3:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Magonsdaughter: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Do you have a problem with white people being a minority? I'm not afraid of not being "PC". Yes, I do have a problem with white people being a minority.
Friday, June 15, 2012 6:52 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by PIRATENEWS: Reality Check [...] The only thing untrue is that Black Americans are an endangered species. I have no doubt that a large percentage of that 25,196 abortions in Crook County in 2009 were black, but I have no doubt that a majority of those 75,744 births in Crook County were also black. The fact that white people will be a minority in this country isn't only due to the influx of Mexican migrants. Do you have a problem with white people being a minority? I'm not afraid of not being "PC". Yes, I do have a problem with white people being a minority.
Saturday, June 16, 2012 7:52 AM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: How about you look at the most dangerous large cities, based on murder rate, as well as the safest? Nice chart here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate that you can sort by type of crime.
Quote:It's your thread, Kiki. You're the one who started making comparisons.
Saturday, June 16, 2012 9:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 1kiki: Actually, little Rappy is the one who started making CLAIMS to which this thread is a response. Remember - it's right here. 46 Hurt, 8 Killed in Violent Chicago Weekend ( Not recycling Memorial Day Weekend story ) http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?tid=52199 But YOU didn't have any objections to THAT, did you Geezer. Gee. What a surprise.
Saturday, June 16, 2012 6:00 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: I made no " claims ", what so ever.
Quote:The fruits of community organizing Originally posted by AURaptor: Quote: 10 Dead, 41 Hurt in Violent Chicago Weekend http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Violent-Chicago-Weekend-155317885.html
Quote: 10 Dead, 41 Hurt in Violent Chicago Weekend http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/Violent-Chicago-Weekend-155317885.html
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Democrat dominated Chicago, home of Barack Hussein Obama, and all that community organizing, along w/ his former Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel now as mayor.
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: They were the fruits of being community organized. As the title states.
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: If you have a candidate who touts his credentials as a community organizer in Chicago, you'd expect one result of his organizing might be less violence in the community. Or are you saying that community organization has no effect at all on changing folk's view of what their personal responsibility towards others in the community (like whether to shoot them or not) is?
Quote:46 Hurt, 8 Killed in Violent Chicago Weekend ( Not recycling Memorial Day Weekend story )
Sunday, June 17, 2012 4:43 AM
Sunday, June 17, 2012 8:49 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, June 18, 2012 1:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by AURaptor: Fine. Keep a url list on us. I think it's funny you have so little of a life that you think I'd care what you do.
Monday, June 18, 2012 8:38 AM
KPO
Sometimes you own the libs. Sometimes, the libs own you.
Monday, June 18, 2012 8:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by kpo: Quote:It's your thread, Kiki. You're the one who started making comparisons. I think you've missed the point of this whole thread Geez, it was to respond to Auraptor's suggestion that Chicago is an especially violent city thanks (or no thanks) to Obama and the Democrats and community organising. If 1Kiki shows that Chicago is not especially violent, or that Republican controlled cities are more violent, that punctures Auraptor's argument quite nicely. The ball is no longer in 1Kiki's court - in my mind Auraptor has to make his case from scratch allowing for the new facts, or else let his argument die. It's not personal. It's just war.
Monday, June 18, 2012 9:11 AM
Monday, June 18, 2012 9:24 AM
STORYMARK
Monday, June 18, 2012 5:52 PM
Tuesday, June 19, 2012 5:37 AM
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:57 AM
CAVETROLL
Quote: As Chicago residents face a murder rate that, thus far this year, is worse than U.S. troops in Afghanistan, the Chicago Police Department has assigned at least 100 officers to secure the wedding of White House advisor Valerie Jarrett's daughter. President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama and their daughters Malia and Sasha arrived in Chicago Friday evening ahead of the Saturday wedding of Laura Jarrett, which will be held in a backyard in the city's Kenwood neighborhood. And that wedding is, expectedly, set to be a high-security affair. The Chicago Sun-Times' Michael Sneed reports that between 100 and 200 Chicago police officers will be on site to help "secure the perimeter" of the wedding. Sneed further reports that the city will not be reimbursed for the police security by the federal government. The directive for police to cover the Jarrett wedding arrives at a time where Chicago is facing a surge in its homicide rate. The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period. The war zone-like statistics are not new. As WBEZ reports, while some 2,000 U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001, more than 5,000 people have been killed by gun fire in Chicago during that time, based on Department of Defense and FBI data.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:25 AM
Quote:The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:37 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: False assumptions abound. Would you rather spend a week in Chicago or in Afghanistan? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/16/chicago-homicide-rate-wor_n_1602692.html Quote: As Chicago residents face a murder rate that, thus far this year, is worse than U.S. troops in Afghanistan, the Chicago Police Department has assigned at least 100 officers to secure the wedding of White House advisor Valerie Jarrett's daughter. President Barack Obama, First Lady Michelle Obama and their daughters Malia and Sasha arrived in Chicago Friday evening ahead of the Saturday wedding of Laura Jarrett, which will be held in a backyard in the city's Kenwood neighborhood. And that wedding is, expectedly, set to be a high-security affair. The Chicago Sun-Times' Michael Sneed reports that between 100 and 200 Chicago police officers will be on site to help "secure the perimeter" of the wedding. Sneed further reports that the city will not be reimbursed for the police security by the federal government. The directive for police to cover the Jarrett wedding arrives at a time where Chicago is facing a surge in its homicide rate. The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period. The war zone-like statistics are not new. As WBEZ reports, while some 2,000 U.S. troops have been killed in Afghanistan since 2001, more than 5,000 people have been killed by gun fire in Chicago during that time, based on Department of Defense and FBI data.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:49 AM
Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period. Hello, This comparison is strange, and it makes weird conclusions. Chicago has 29 times the population of Americans but less than 2 times the murders. Chicago is safer for Americans than Afghanistan in terms of murder rate. But what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? --Anthony
Quote:Originally posted by 1KIKI City of Atlanta 536,472 population 93 murders 17 per 100,000 http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-8/10tbl08ga.xls Chicago 2,833,649 population 432 murders 15 per 100,000 http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-8/10tbl08il.xls
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 11:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Quote:Originally posted by ANTHONYT: Quote:The Daily pointed out in a Friday column that more Chicago residents -- 228 -- have been killed so far this year in the city than the number of U.S. troops killed in Afghanistan - 144 -- over the same period. Hello, This comparison is strange, and it makes weird conclusions. Chicago has 29 times the population of Americans but less than 2 times the murders. Chicago is safer for Americans than Afghanistan in terms of murder rate. But what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? --Anthony Ah, but that's the exact comparison that 1Kiki used to start this thread.
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 3:15 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Ah, but that's the exact comparison that 1Kiki used to start this thread.
Quote: Or are you saying that Kiki's comparison is valid and mine is not?
Quote: I'm not sure where Kiki was going with this. Comparing a democratically controlled city that is chronically pointed out as a failure of policy, with another democratically controlled city in another part of the country, to prove, what?
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:16 PM
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 4:33 PM
Quote:Originally posted by CaveTroll: Anthony, Would you care to review your findings with the added data point of legislative or enforcement gun control? I can point you to similar persecution of lawful firearms ownership in Philadelphia. Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:13 PM
Wednesday, June 20, 2012 5:31 PM
Quote: How many U.S. troops were killed in Chicago during the timeframe you're trying to compare?
Thursday, June 21, 2012 6:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Hey Trollbago, Care to answer the question, or are you a coward? How many U.S. troops were killed in Chicago during the timeframe you're trying to compare? After all, YOU brought up troops killed in Afghanistan, did you not? So compare troops to troops, or people to people. I know you're trying to paint Chicago as some kind of lawless wasteland (hence the question of where one would rather spend time, Chicago or Afghanistan. I'll gladly take Chicago, thanks!), and in your desperation you're casting about looking for ANYTHING that will allow you to spin your story to cast Chicago in a negative light, but the rest of us aren't willing to accept your methodology or your basic premise, because you've been shown time and again to be using faulty "facts" and false logic in trying to spin your stories. So answer the question: How many U.S. troops were killed in Chicago during the timeframe you're trying to compare? "I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero "I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy
Monday, June 25, 2012 1:53 PM
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