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Wow - North Korea agrees to suspend nuclear weapons tests and uranium enrichment
Saturday, March 10, 2012 3:44 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Saturday, March 10, 2012 8:17 PM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Quote:Right or wrong, what the Japanese did to Pearl Harbor was not even in the same ballpark as 9/11. What we did in retaliation, considering the outcome and the brevity of the war thereafter was not either. Hell... even the reason that Anne Frank had to hide in the attic wasn't. It may have been for Evil and undoubtedly misguided reasons, but at least it was backed by a people who just wanted to live a better life and be able to have the means of supporting their family. The Germans didn't have a pot to piss in at the time. As evil as the Nazis were, you didn't see any of them willing to play by unfair rules and nuke themselves to take out hundreds or thousands of the enemy because they "KNEW" that countless virgins awaited them in "Heaven".
Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:44 AM
OONJERAH
Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:14 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, We simply have no common ground to work with. When you say things like this, it disturbs me. I almost can't believe you aren't messing around. --Anthony
Monday, March 12, 2012 8:59 AM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Monday, March 12, 2012 10:19 AM
Monday, March 12, 2012 10:55 AM
1KIKI
Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.
Monday, March 12, 2012 11:31 AM
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: A Jack a chara, I'm not going to deny that I agree with some of the stuff you're saying, they are programmed and brainwashed and the reason they're so susceptable is because their lives suck brick and the higher ups know which strings to pull, and if they lived in a society that was different then its likely less of them would choose to get weird and radical like that. I just don't think your wording is helping people to see where you're coming from. Sure you can say that they are acting in an animalistic fashion when they kill all around them to get what they want in the form of wild sex in Heaven (sex for girls hurts the first time though, so they really won't have as much fun with those virgins as they think they will.). But when you're presenting a point wording matters a lot, it is the single thing that can tip the scale from people understanding where you're coming from to people totally turning off and not being into what you're saying and thinking you're too extreme. No one expects you to be a brilliant negotiator, but certain word choices will turn your crowd off faster than a lightswitch and calling people animals is one of those word choices, even if you feel they're acting like animals in their behavior, you can just say it like that. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:08 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: What's your answer Kwicko? I think a good plan of Terraforming has been laid out here. I'm all about a reduction in military force and imperialism. What do you think should be done?
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Anybody who would strap a bomb on their chest or down a plane that they're on to take out other people is an animal. I won't sugar coat that. It's not as if I'm lumping in everyone and calling all Muslims animals.
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:18 PM
Quote:Please remember,Anthony, before you post further, that I'm a right leaning libertarian that holds the church in much higher regard than a lot of the folk who post here. I may not be confirmed Catholic yet, at 32, and I may not tow the Rethuglican line 24/7, but the Demonocrats scare me even more......
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:28 PM
Quote:Maybe the RWED would benefit here from hearing from a person who has lost a loved one from one of these mindles proles carrying out their duty.
Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:30 PM
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Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:01 AM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 5:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Anybody who would strap a bomb on their chest or down a plane that they're on to take out other people is an animal. I won't sugar coat that. It's not as if I'm lumping in everyone and calling all Muslims animals. So you're really saying that the passengers on Flight 93 were a bunch of "animals", right? Those are your terms, yes? They downed a plane that they were on, in order to take out other people, after all.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: I find it hilarious that you refer to yourself as any kind of "libertarian" at all. You're a sniveling boot-licker, eager to please your master while condemning others for being so blind and dumb as to do the same. Every charge you've leveled at "them" can just as easily be made against "us", America, capitalism, the 1%, etc.
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Raises hand... You do realize that I lost my father to just such mindless proles who were only "carrying out their duty", right? He was a good soldier, obeyed orders, went to 'Nam, spent a year getting doused with Agent Orange, and even his beloved government admits that they murdered him - but they were only doing what they were told, after all. Yet you persist in thinking it's only "them" who are capable of such monstrous behavior to others. Your own country does it every single day, Jack, and you'll happily cheer them on all the while, because you're one of those useful idiots who believe in "American excpetionalism", i.e., the idea that if someone else does it, it's horrific, but if AMERICA does it, then that's an exception, and it's magically awesome now because it was done by AMERICA, and AMERICA can never do wrong! And because you follow such black-and-white beliefs, you'll never be useful in this world for anything other than cannon fodder. I never had very much respect for you, but this thread has proven that I gave you far too much benefit of the doubt, and that you are an utterly worthless excuse for a human. You are, in your own words, a sub-human animal, and you brainwashed yourself into that state. You can't even blame your church; you did this all to yourself. The real difference between you and a suicide bomber is that you're far more of a coward, and would never put your brave words into action.
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 8:18 PM
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:17 PM
Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:12 AM
Thursday, March 15, 2012 3:59 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Jack, I'm sorry about your uncle, it sounds like you two were really close and had a special relationship and cared about each other a lot. He sounds like he was a nice and caring person. I guess he just couldn't do it anymore. :(
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I think the point bein made Jack - was that most people, even when they do the most outrageous things, think they're the good guy, that they are in the right, because they need to believe that to keep goin. Factually, they're right less than half the time. Part of the REASON I self-identify as a villain is cause I know damn well I ain't one of the good guys. But, yanno, I'm better than most of the bad guys. -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:34 PM
Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: You make things happen. Good things. In the end, although others might not agree with the tactics, I believe the ends justify the means.
Friday, March 16, 2012 3:51 PM
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Friday, March 16, 2012 9:06 PM
Saturday, March 17, 2012 10:16 AM
Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:09 PM
Saturday, March 17, 2012 3:51 PM
Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:50 PM
Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:41 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: We're past that Oonjerah, I've already said that I will refrain from refering to them as animals. I believe I even posted another quote in my babbling about "if I was going to spend so many of my years as a kid being treated like a criminal, I was finally going to do the crime", or something along those lines, so I get what you're saying. "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
Saturday, March 17, 2012 7:44 PM
Sunday, March 18, 2012 8:14 AM
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Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:21 PM
MAGONSDAUGHTER
Sunday, March 18, 2012 2:34 PM
Sunday, March 18, 2012 3:27 PM
Sunday, March 18, 2012 4:34 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: I appreciate your input, Magonsdaughter.... I know this is a long thread, so I don't fault you for not reading it all before posting your opinions, but I have.... with the help of my Right and Left and Libertarian and Anarchist friends here, tempered my viewpoints. Though I hold true that these people have been completely brainwashed to the point that all humanity has been sucked right out of their mind body and soul, I will refrain from calling them animals anymore. That being said, I'm too burdened with worrying about me and my own to "fix" them, especially in this economy. I leave that duty to everyone here, on any "side" of the political spectrum who spoke up and said that I was wrong. I truly do wish you all luck with that, and I hope that these empty shells of people, with your help, can once again rejoin the human race before they kill themselves and potentially 10's of thousands of people. These words are 100% sincere, ~6 "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:27 PM
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Friday, April 13, 2012 4:21 AM
PIZMOBEACH
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