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Friday, March 16, 2012 6:22 AM

FREMDFIRMA



Alas, nothing yet from Cevin, but this...

Hundreds of Kids Arrested on an Unproven Hunch
http://www.voiceofsandiego.org/data-drive/article_601ef852-6bce-11e1-b
1fe-0019bb2963f4.html


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But an analysis of juvenile crime statistics by voiceofsandiego.org challenges whether either of these claims are true. Neighborhoods without the sweeps have reported greater drops in crime in the last five years than those with them.

VOSD reached that surprising conclusion by examining the two metrics of juvenile crime often cited by the program's proponents: the number of violent crime victims and the number of juvenile arrests police made during curfew hours.

Where regular curfew sweeps have happened for at least the past two years, police reported a 47 percent decline in victims in the last five years. Where they haven't happened, police reported an additional 17 point decrease.

An analysis of felony arrests during curfew hours showed a similar trend. Neighborhoods with the sweeps reported substantially smaller drops in arrests than those without them.


Bullshit and excuses, as usual, self-justifying crap which oh so coincidentally increases police budgets and overtime at the expense of those unable to fight back.

Yanno, they'd make good Occupy allies, come to think of it, a mutual pact there could serve both sides well.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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Friday, March 16, 2012 6:26 AM

ANTHONYT

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Friday, March 16, 2012 7:39 AM

WISHIMAY


Makes me think about all the times I played flashlight tag in the summer 'till midnight or later. I guess that would be illegal there.

Any neighborhood that routinely swarms with cops would make me itchy. 'Nother reason ta NOT live there...

I dunno about the rest of the country, but if you catch the news alot here, the people doin' the worst crap are all over the age of 18. I don't see too many articles about kids where they put "The perpetrator cannot be identified due to being underage" I'm sure the sweeps cut down on vandalism and general mischief, but I'm not sure that validates it... If anything the sweeps might discourage ADULTS from doing naughty deeds... They're more likely to be the ones killing, stealing, and drug dealing.

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Sunday, March 18, 2012 5:27 PM

RIONAEIRE

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I agree with Wish, we would stay out really late when I was a kid, just playing in the front yard/down the block etc. and it was no one's business except ours and our parents'. Curfews are weird.

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Sunday, March 18, 2012 6:57 PM

FREMDFIRMA


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Originally posted by Wishimay:
I dunno about the rest of the country, but if you catch the news alot here, the people doin' the worst crap are all over the age of 18. I don't see too many articles about kids where they put "The perpetrator cannot be identified due to being underage" I'm sure the sweeps cut down on vandalism and general mischief, but I'm not sure that validates it... If anything the sweeps might discourage ADULTS from doing naughty deeds... They're more likely to be the ones killing, stealing, and drug dealing.


Ayep, and it's the young people often enough who call em out on it - but no, chase them off the streets, harrass them, and blame THEM for it, sure.

Same thing as how the crabby old jerks who can't seem to admit they're TOO OLD TO DRIVE SAFELY blame all that shit on young drivers, or entitled middle-agers who don't bother to observe basic road safety - when in fact the younger folk are some of the more careful drivers cause they KNOW that if they have a fender bender they're GOING to catch the blame no matter how innocent they are and are thus all but friggin paranoid about it...

While yes, there's a skill and experience gap, the greater caution with which most young drivers approach matters generally makes up for it, as opposed to some adult jackass weaving all over the road trying to watch his GPS, while sucking down a cappucino with a cellphone jammed in one ear - who will completely get a pass for that shit and if he DOES hit somebody, if that somebody happens to be a teen driver, guess who AUTOMATICALLY gets the blame ?

That's just bullshit, it is.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

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