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Wow - North Korea agrees to suspend nuclear weapons tests and uranium enrichment
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:22 AM
PIZMOBEACH
... fully loaded, safety off...
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:31 AM
BYTEMITE
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 9:39 AM
ANTHONYT
Freedom is Important because People are Important
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:38 AM
GEEZER
Keep the Shiny side up
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Geezer: Again? They do this every few years, to keep getting U.S. food aid - supposedly for their citizens - that they can redirect to their military and government workers. Then they move all the nuclear stuff underground and keep working, and wait to get caught so they can do the same thing over again. They do the same with their ballistic missle programs. See: http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron "Keep the Shiny side up"
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:27 PM
RIONAEIRE
Beir bua agus beannacht
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:30 PM
AURAPTOR
America loves a winner!
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Maybe now that they have it they don't feel the need to use it, because having it was all they really wanted?
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 5:38 PM
FREMDFIRMA
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 6:45 PM
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 7:13 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: I object. So long as there is even one starving american on our streets, I stand against deliving "metric tons" of food to any other country. What rooks me worst is we have the ABILITY to correct that, and do not. -F
Wednesday, February 29, 2012 10:33 PM
Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:11 AM
Thursday, March 1, 2012 6:25 AM
Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:31 AM
NIKI2
Gettin' old, but still a hippie at heart...
Quote:They do this every few years, to keep getting U.S. food aid - supposedly for their citizens - that they can redirect to their military and government workers. Then they move all the nuclear stuff underground and keep working, and wait to get caught so they can do the same thing over again.
Thursday, March 1, 2012 7:46 AM
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Given that imagery I would say you were definitely shaped by your childhood, you have that always-on anger and distrust - you've got more than a little junkyard dog in you - doubt that's the first time you've heard that. You probably won't be surprised either to hear that that may not be the most objective position to judge something from...?
Thursday, March 1, 2012 11:57 AM
OONJERAH
Friday, March 2, 2012 6:26 PM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by pizmobeach: Wow - North Korea agrees to suspend nuclear weapons tests and uranium enrichment
Friday, March 2, 2012 6:53 PM
KWICKO
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)
Quote:Since we're a nation of pussies that won't lob a bomb back when they bomb our Twin Towers...
Friday, March 2, 2012 7:03 PM
Saturday, March 3, 2012 3:54 AM
Saturday, March 3, 2012 5:56 AM
Sunday, March 4, 2012 1:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Fremdfirma: Why do you have to mix such complete idiocy up with it every time you got a point, Jack ? Seriously, yeah verily we could turn that place into farmland cheaper than wasteland, and if we buckled down with the moderates on it THEY would throw them shitheads out instead of hiding being the radical fucks from our sabre rattling. But as for 9-11, you *do* realize all the ACTUAL evidence points to a pack of Saudis with a Kuwaiti financier, who is at this moment sitting in a federal supermax, yes ? Not that I think you care if the Christofascists and the Radical Islamists kill each other, shit, neither do I - but I kinda mind when they do it on my dime, you know ? IMHO we shoulda put them towers RIGHT BACK UP, all hands on board, as fast as we *could* do it, just to slap them in the face and show them how petty and feeble the attempt to cow or bait us was - but no, our politicians, all of em, walked right into it, and our so-called-protectors HELPED em right into the trap... (And given WHO gave Ramzi Youssef that bomb in 1993 I am quite sure it was on purpose.) -Frem I do not serve the Blind God.
Sunday, March 4, 2012 9:52 PM
Monday, March 5, 2012 12:29 PM
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: Wow Jack, did you really just say that? It looks like you did. I can't abide by that extremism. I don't blame you for being pissed off though about how badly things have gone since 9/11, but we can't just blow up Mecca, the world just doesn't work like that, nor should it. I'm not voting for you for president, we just don't have enough in common, then again I don't have much in common with any of the goonches running currently either. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Monday, March 5, 2012 5:58 PM
Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:38 PM
Tuesday, March 6, 2012 3:45 PM
Quote: That's the trick..... How do we bring the American way of life to the Middle East?
Tuesday, March 6, 2012 4:49 PM
Tuesday, March 6, 2012 8:59 PM
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 12:17 PM
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 1:34 PM
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 4:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Your mistake is in assuming the MIddle East *wants* "the American way of life", or that it's even a desirable thing.
Quote:Osama bin Laden's main problem with the West started with what he saw as the Americanization of the globe.
Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Well... Most of the youngest generation actually wants all the new media and the technology, but the trick they're having to face is balancing that with their also deeply held cultural values. But the older generations, yeah, kind of think everything is potentially a corrupting influence.
Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the middle east. That's expensive. Of course right now we're spending oodles of money fighting wars over there, which isn't desirable either. But still. Jack, your China comment made me laugh, but you have a point. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya
Quote:I borrowed a burkha from another friend and waltzed right up to him, unseen and beneath his notice, and slammed a rubber knife into his kidneys, and you can bet THAT got his attention - I asked him how he'd like me to go round teaching their women the finer points of a blade if they didn't start getting the respect due them as human beings and he told me he'd prolly never sleep soundly again, to which I replied "GOOD!"... he's been a lil miffed at me ever since.
Quote:I do say terraformin is cheaper than bombin, and if we give em OPTIONS other than revenge, instead of leaving them nothin else left, we solve a lotta the problem right there.
Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Reclamation of desertified lands. Couple weeks back when y'all were going round & round about Iran/Israel, I tried to make that point a few times as clearly as I could. The Arab lands need water, need top soil. The Israelis did it, why can't they? My guess is: TPTB over there are richer than Croesus with oil money. Yet their economies are undeveloped, except for oil. The land could be reclaimed if those fat sheiks would just say the word, & buy a little equipment. Watching that sort of mismanagement is extremely frustrating.
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 4:37 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6ixStringJack: Quote:Originally posted by Kwicko: Your mistake is in assuming the MIddle East *wants* "the American way of life", or that it's even a desirable thing. There's no "mistake" being made here. I'm sure that, the kids especially, would love to be worshiping Justin Beiber and Selena Gomez in the Middle East, if they weren't so busy getting their heads filled with 100% devotion to Allah everyday because they live in a world where to the average citizen life is so shitty that in 2012 they still manage to cover their women from head to toe in black garbage bags. I'm not proposing a Middle East without God, or without their own history, anymore than I'm suggesting that an America that is fruitful enough for people to decide to be 100% devout or 100% atheist hasn't "fixed" Christianity today. The mediazation of the Middle East isn't something we'd even need to initiate if they had fertile land and weren't covered in sand. If things started going well for them and they had even a half hour of free time a day to jack off, they'd be watching things coming from more advanced cultures and the people there would be clamoring for more. Quote:Osama bin Laden's main problem with the West started with what he saw as the Americanization of the globe. Bad example man. Would you just as readily quote Hitler and his beliefs? Of course he was against Americanization, especially considering everyone in his country lived like mole people in the hills with sand in their ass cracks and the women were more than happy to wear full-body trash bags if only to take refuge from the sand storms. Quote:Originally posted by Bytemite: Well... Most of the youngest generation actually wants all the new media and the technology, but the trick they're having to face is balancing that with their also deeply held cultural values. But the older generations, yeah, kind of think everything is potentially a corrupting influence. Yep Byte, Same old story for generations in the US. My late great-grandmother, if she hadn't died 20 years ago, would have had a heart attack if she saw how girls dress up in the warm weather today. Quote:Originally posted by RionaEire: I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the middle east. That's expensive. Of course right now we're spending oodles of money fighting wars over there, which isn't desirable either. But still. Jack, your China comment made me laugh, but you have a point. "A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya I don't want to have to pay for terraforming the Middle East either. But, you're right, how much do we waste every year there policing an area that could have been better spent. Just because Osama Bin Laden is gone, it doesn't mean that there aren't 40 others waiting in line to take over for him. As I said before, these "people" are animals. Take out the Alpha Male, and there's a young pup just waiting to take the throne. Cut them off at the knees. Cut warfare spending in the Mid East by 1/4 TODAY, and at the same time spend only half of those savings on Terraforming the Middle East and in 10 years the dividends on that saved taxpayer money will grow exponentially. At that point, keep it up for another 10 years while bumping up the amount of money going to Terraforming and in 20 years not only will we be collecting interest from the Middle East on the work done, but we'll be able to throw the department of Homeland Security out the window. Not sure why the China comment made you laugh Riona, but I'm glad I could bring a smile to your face. The potential China threat in the next 20-50 years is very real and very serious. This Middle East bullshit is just a red herring. I'd love to be the ones that helped put them on their feet and got them on the same page as us by then. They'd make a great ally if things ever REALLY got bad with our Chinese relations. Frem, Man... that was one hell of a post! What can I say, except for that I agree with everything you said! It's really great that you are integrated with them and that you've made true ties. Where I live now, there really aren't any to speak of, just whites and blacks around these parts. I still miss Ashraf. I grew up with that dude. Moved away to a different high school after middle school, but 3-4 years later we were both standing in line at a club and he recognized me and we really hit it off again and were buying each other rounds all night. Really an awesome dude, even though I don't know exactly what heritage he actually was in the end. I didn't ask those questions when I was 21-22. If I had his number, I'd call him up tonight and see what he was up to. Quote:I borrowed a burkha from another friend and waltzed right up to him, unseen and beneath his notice, and slammed a rubber knife into his kidneys, and you can bet THAT got his attention - I asked him how he'd like me to go round teaching their women the finer points of a blade if they didn't start getting the respect due them as human beings and he told me he'd prolly never sleep soundly again, to which I replied "GOOD!"... he's been a lil miffed at me ever since. Haha... that really made me laugh. We live in America man... love it or leave it! Quote:I do say terraformin is cheaper than bombin, and if we give em OPTIONS other than revenge, instead of leaving them nothin else left, we solve a lotta the problem right there. THIS is the KEY! We're already spending TONS of money that most of us agree is BS. Let's seriously curb that spending and (making sure that no corrupt behind the door dealings with taxpayer dollars) spend just a fraction of that doing good instead. It's a great investment in my mind. An investment in our children's and their children's future. I would have posted and replied to every awesome comment you made Frem, but I'm too OCD lol. I did read them all and quite enjoyed that post. Quote:Originally posted by Oonjerah: Reclamation of desertified lands. Couple weeks back when y'all were going round & round about Iran/Israel, I tried to make that point a few times as clearly as I could. The Arab lands need water, need top soil. The Israelis did it, why can't they? My guess is: TPTB over there are richer than Croesus with oil money. Yet their economies are undeveloped, except for oil. The land could be reclaimed if those fat sheiks would just say the word, & buy a little equipment. Watching that sort of mismanagement is extremely frustrating. The Mid-East management of their money from oil is like watching Haliburton on some new hybrid of crack and meth. But that's only from the viewpoint of rational, civilized human beings. Just because you were born into a position of riches and power, doesn't mean that you are inherently knowledgeable enough to wield that power responsibly. These sheiks you speak of that hold all the wealth/power in the Mid/East, and use that power to make sure that everyone else lives in shit and sand. Your idea here is perfect. They have PLENTY of money to Terraform their own country, but they're too busy spending it on their golden toilets and blowjobs. "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." ~Shepherd Book
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 4:42 PM
Quote:Look to Dubai for leadership in this area. Of course, that would require you to actually open your eyes, which I doubt you're capable of.
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:05 PM
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 5:11 PM
Wednesday, March 7, 2012 9:48 PM
Thursday, March 8, 2012 2:00 PM
Thursday, March 8, 2012 3:05 PM
Quote:Anybody who would strap a bomb on their chest or down a plane that they're on to take out other people is an animal.
Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:27 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Hello, I never thought of Kamikaze aviators as being animals before... ...I still don't. --Anthony
Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:38 PM
Thursday, March 8, 2012 4:50 PM
Quote:They aren't people anymore. They have no scruples. They have no morals.
Thursday, March 8, 2012 5:10 PM
Quote:Originally posted by AnthonyT: Quote:They aren't people anymore. They have no scruples. They have no morals. Hello, You certainly have strong opinions. Fortunately, I hold 'brainwashed' people in higher esteem. To think of people as 'animals' or 'not people' can seriously impact the way you treat them. And not in a good way.
Thursday, March 8, 2012 6:24 PM
Thursday, March 8, 2012 8:01 PM
Friday, March 9, 2012 4:36 PM
Friday, March 9, 2012 4:51 PM
Quote:I just think that, similar to a meth or heroin addict, these "people" are beyond help
Friday, March 9, 2012 4:59 PM
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