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Tuesday, June 16, 2026 8:13 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK




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Tuesday, June 16, 2026 9:21 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I screwed up my USB stick. My computer won't read it now. I did something real stupid last time I tried to use it. I pulled it out without ejecting it. I mean just pulled. So I am going to see if I can do anything with it or if I have to start from scratch.




Calm down, Brenda. Tell me exactly what is happening when you plug it in.

I know I probably put the fear of god in you about ejecting the drive first, but doing any actual damage to the drive happens so very rarely that I have a hard time believing this is what's just happened to you, even if you did unplug it without ejecting it.

When it did happen to me, it was catastrophic what I lost. A bad lesson I didn't have to learn twice. Up until that point, I sometimes would get a message saying "Windows found a problem with this drive", with an option to allow Windows to attempt to fix it. In every instance up until that catastrophic loss, Windows never had a problem with fixing the drives and the data was still intact. I did have one drive that continued to work fine, but every time I plugged it in after removing it without ejecting first it would give me that error and I had to have Windows fix it before I could open it.


So I need to know exactly what happens when you plug it in. Does Windows make the chime sound that it does when you put a drive in? Does your drive have an LED indicator light (and is it lighting up or flashing)? Do you get any sort of pop-ups at all when plugging in the drive, or does nothing happen at all?


I still want you to try to open the drive in Explorer and see if it shows up there even if nothing happens when you plug the drive in. It's possible that the directions Windows remembers for what to do with that drive were somehow changed, and maybe it's actually being recognized by Windows, but it's not popping up an Explorer window inside of it automatically for you anymore.

That explanation is not the most plausible, but I think it's much more plausable than your drive went bad after only pulling it out without ejecting it first only one time. Especially if your book or any photos you were looking at from the drive were all closed first before you pulled the stick out.

Sometimes windows gets all confused and won't let you eject drives because it erroneously says that there are still files that are in use. Depending on what I'm doing and which drive I'm using, a lot of times I'll just chance it and pull it out anyway (never on anything important like your book though... In that case you should just power the PC down and take it out after it turns off completely).

But make sure you never pull that thing out while you've got your book or any photos or whatever opened on it. Having any of that open AND not ejecting the drive is probably the easiest way to corrupt the data. But even in the case of corrupted data which we could make sure you just back up again, I would still think the drive itself should be fine and at worst would just need a quick format operation. Unless this was just a really unlucky happening, there's just about 0% chance that the drive itself is broken from pulling it early.



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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 12:19 AM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:

Originally posted by Brenda:
I screwed up my USB stick. My computer won't read it now. I did something real stupid last time I tried to use it. I pulled it out without ejecting it. I mean just pulled. So I am going to see if I can do anything with it or if I have to start from scratch.




Calm down, Brenda. Tell me exactly what is happening when you plug it in.

I know I probably put the fear of god in you about ejecting the drive first, but doing any actual damage to the drive happens so very rarely that I have a hard time believing this is what's just happened to you, even if you did unplug it without ejecting it.

When it did happen to me, it was catastrophic what I lost. A bad lesson I didn't have to learn twice. Up until that point, I sometimes would get a message saying "Windows found a problem with this drive", with an option to allow Windows to attempt to fix it. In every instance up until that catastrophic loss, Windows never had a problem with fixing the drives and the data was still intact. I did have one drive that continued to work fine, but every time I plugged it in after removing it without ejecting first it would give me that error and I had to have Windows fix it before I could open it.


So I need to know exactly what happens when you plug it in. Does Windows make the chime sound that it does when you put a drive in? Does your drive have an LED indicator light (and is it lighting up or flashing)? Do you get any sort of pop-ups at all when plugging in the drive, or does nothing happen at all?


I still want you to try to open the drive in Explorer and see if it shows up there even if nothing happens when you plug the drive in. It's possible that the directions Windows remembers for what to do with that drive were somehow changed, and maybe it's actually being recognized by Windows, but it's not popping up an Explorer window inside of it automatically for you anymore.

That explanation is not the most plausible, but I think it's much more plausable than your drive went bad after only pulling it out without ejecting it first only one time. Especially if your book or any photos you were looking at from the drive were all closed first before you pulled the stick out.

Sometimes windows gets all confused and won't let you eject drives because it erroneously says that there are still files that are in use. Depending on what I'm doing and which drive I'm using, a lot of times I'll just chance it and pull it out anyway (never on anything important like your book though... In that case you should just power the PC down and take it out after it turns off completely).

But make sure you never pull that thing out while you've got your book or any photos or whatever opened on it. Having any of that open AND not ejecting the drive is probably the easiest way to corrupt the data. But even in the case of corrupted data which we could make sure you just back up again, I would still think the drive itself should be fine and at worst would just need a quick format operation. Unless this was just a really unlucky happening, there's just about 0% chance that the drive itself is broken from pulling it early.



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I'm calmer now than when that happened.

I put it in and clicked on my hidden icons looking for the stick icon. I went to click it on but top line said devices and such. I clicked that on and brought up file explorer which was devices, then I went my computer and what showed up was some stuff about installing things. When I looked at everything nothing matched and under this computer said, "File f" and it was gray. So, I took it out and left it for a bit and tried again. Still couldn't reach it.

Don't remember if it chimed. It could have but my speakers were off. But the icon for the stick was there under hidden icons.

The indicator light was on.

Okay. Open in Windows explorer after plugging the drive in.

I got up early this morning to take a swing at downloading my pictures but after all that I did freak.

Also I did take the stick into a computer place today and he got it to work. And basically said keep trying.

I will try again once I calm down a little more. Just have to have a bit of time.

Sometimes I feel like I need someone standing over my shoulder when I do these things.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 12:21 AM

BRENDA


Fantastic SIG. Here's to her speedy recovery.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 3:20 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yanno... sometimes Windows does updates and it can change the way things operate too, even if you don't like the changes, so you might not have actually done anything.

I really think you would benefit from taking a class or two on computers. I'm sure they have to have something local to you that wouldn't cost too much, or might possibly even be free for you. At least in parts of America (and admittedly 20+ years ago), you were allowed to "audit" classes at certain colleges. What that means is that you're able to take the class for free as if you were one of the students paying, but no matter how you do in the class it does not count toward a college degree. That'd be perfect if they had something like that. And they'd very likely have a book for the course that is rather large with a lot of pictures in it describing how to do a ton of tasks.

We just need to get you familiarized with the basics of Windows. Navigating File Explorer and understanding things like hard drives and their assigned letters is really important, and it's really not that complex. Like my friend's dad always used to say about rehabbing houses, "it's not rocket science".

If we can get you to understand what you're looking at (and for) when using File Explorer, I have no doubt that you would confidently be able to find any file on your computer that you would ever need to find, and you would have zero concern with making backups and creating folders to organize your files and backups.



For instance... If you're in Explorer and you notice "C:\" on one of the lines, that's the top (aka Root) directory of your internal computer hard drive. It is where Windows is located, as well as any programs you install later such as Microsoft Word.

If you have a CD or DVD drive on there, that is most likely going to be "D:\".

If you were wondering what happened to "A:\" and "B:\", those were the designations for floppy drives. And I suppose since the original personal computers such as the Apple IIe that I grew up with in grade school didn't even have a hard drive and ran entirely off of the disks you put in the A: or B: floppy drives, that little quirk in the alphabet persists to this day and likely always will.



So if you already have a C: for your internal computer hard drive, and a D: for your CD or DVD drive, the next letter would be E:.

If you plug in your thumb drive, Windows should automatically assign the letter E: to your thumb drive after you insert it, and you should see it show up on the left side as E:\.

If you don't have a CD or DVD drive and all you've got is the internal hard drive, when you plug your stick in, it should show up as D:\ in File Explorer.



So this is what I mean by seeing if you can see the drive in Explorer even if the computer is not behaving the way that it did last week when you plugged the thumb drive in. I'm assuming that it used to open up a File Explorer window that was already inside the drive for you? If that's the case, you don't need that to happen to get to the drive. All you need to do is open up explorer and look on the left hand side for your drive letter.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 9:08 AM

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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The lights in the vanity are not designed for dimmer switches anyhow.

Are the lights compact fluorescent bulbs? Those can't be dimmed, along with some really, really cheap LED bulbs, but everything else can be dimmed, even kerosene lamps.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 11:59 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

The lights in the vanity are not designed for dimmer switches anyhow.

Are the lights compact fluorescent bulbs? Those can't be dimmed, along with some really, really cheap LED bulbs, but everything else can be dimmed, even kerosene lamps.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two



Yeah. They look like this:



They've probably got prongs in the other types too. I don't know. I've never seen them before. It's a used fixture with no instructions or no markings denoting the make/model, so I couldn't verify that without buying new bulbs.

And I was making that electric to the cabinet either way, so it really didn't matter. I didn't even think about putting a light up in there until after it was hung and I remembered finding a 2nd night light I got out of really cheap back to school packs they used to sell to all customers once per year for a few years there.


I had two other used fixtures that were in better shape and wouldn't have needed any cleanup before installing, but one was bright bronze and the other was "silver". Neither of them would have worked in the room unless I spray painted them, and I've seen what that spray paint looks like on large surfaces and it would have looked like I spray painted a fixture. It's great for matching hinges and screw heads though.


If I find out that I can use LED bulbs in that fixture down the road, installing a dimmer switch isn't going to be an issue.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 1:04 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yanno... sometimes Windows does updates and it can change the way things operate too, even if you don't like the changes, so you might not have actually done anything.

I really think you would benefit from taking a class or two on computers. I'm sure they have to have something local to you that wouldn't cost too much, or might possibly even be free for you. At least in parts of America (and admittedly 20+ years ago), you were allowed to "audit" classes at certain colleges. What that means is that you're able to take the class for free as if you were one of the students paying, but no matter how you do in the class it does not count toward a college degree. That'd be perfect if they had something like that. And they'd very likely have a book for the course that is rather large with a lot of pictures in it describing how to do a ton of tasks.

We just need to get you familiarized with the basics of Windows. Navigating File Explorer and understanding things like hard drives and their assigned letters is really important, and it's really not that complex. Like my friend's dad always used to say about rehabbing houses, "it's not rocket science".

If we can get you to understand what you're looking at (and for) when using File Explorer, I have no doubt that you would confidently be able to find any file on your computer that you would ever need to find, and you would have zero concern with making backups and creating folders to organize your files and backups.



For instance... If you're in Explorer and you notice "C:\" on one of the lines, that's the top (aka Root) directory of your internal computer hard drive. It is where Windows is located, as well as any programs you install later such as Microsoft Word.

If you have a CD or DVD drive on there, that is most likely going to be "D:\".

If you were wondering what happened to "A:\" and "B:\", those were the designations for floppy drives. And I suppose since the original personal computers such as the Apple IIe that I grew up with in grade school didn't even have a hard drive and ran entirely off of the disks you put in the A: or B: floppy drives, that little quirk in the alphabet persists to this day and likely always will.



So if you already have a C: for your internal computer hard drive, and a D: for your CD or DVD drive, the next letter would be E:.

If you plug in your thumb drive, Windows should automatically assign the letter E: to your thumb drive after you insert it, and you should see it show up on the left side as E:\.

If you don't have a CD or DVD drive and all you've got is the internal hard drive, when you plug your stick in, it should show up as D:\ in File Explorer.



So this is what I mean by seeing if you can see the drive in Explorer even if the computer is not behaving the way that it did last week when you plugged the thumb drive in. I'm assuming that it used to open up a File Explorer window that was already inside the drive for you? If that's the case, you don't need that to happen to get to the drive. All you need to do is open up explorer and look on the left hand side for your drive letter.

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Okay. And I think you are right about the computer classes. The local college might have something like that. I can look it up on line.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 2:41 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Yeah. I think it would be a great idea for you. I'm sure they have online things where you can teach yourself, but you might be like me and not give it the attention it deserves if you're teaching yourself on your own time frame without the rigid structure of a class setting. I'm really good at teaching myself things I'm interested in learning, but if I don't have any real interest in it, it's probably not going to be something I learn on my own.


In the meantime, you should plug your drive into your computer. Open up File Explorer. Look on the left "pane" (It's why they call it Windows, afterall...).

You should see something that says "This PC" in that left pane.

Underneath this, it would list out all of your currently attached drives.

You will definately have (C:). If you have a CD/DVD player attached, that would be (D:).

I'd like you to do this and tell me that you see these and you know what I'm talking about.


Do you have a CD/DVD drive?

I'd also like to know that because then we'll know if the thumbstick would be (D:) or (E:). It's almost certainly one of the two.



(Sometimes I've gone up to the letters I, J, K, and even L before. But I've got a LOT of drives and network storage that uses up a lot more letters than you're ever likely to use).


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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 2:49 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Got my returns done. Should have done it last night after my dad left, but he stayed pretty late and I didn't feel like it, so I got to do it in the torrential rain today instead. Fun! It seems like it's just going to rain every day forever right now.



More thunderstorms and flood watches tonight. They've mentioned tornadoes, but (hopefully) that will be quite a bit south of me if they do happen.


I may or may not try to install that medicine cabinet today. It's pretty dark in there right now though when the lights are out, and because of that switch I'm adding to the side I'd be working in the dark quite a bit. I'll probably put that off until tomorrow or the day after when it finally stops raining and being crappy outside.

Maybe I'll clean up that hole I made in the back of the cabinet and get some spackle up there and/or finally put the final coat of paint on the towel rack shelf thing and the 2 coats I forgot to paint on the back side of the toilet cabinet today. Not a good day for light with that stuff either, but as long as I'm paying attention I should be able to do that without sunlight.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 5:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nice. The festivities haven't even kicked off for the night yet and the city sewer is not working and the water is halfway up to my maple tree. No hard rain. Just steady rain all day long. Now the thunderstorms are about to start coming in...

Hope the power stays on, or I'm in for a rough night.




Finding it hard to sit still anyhow. Now that my computer project is done, it's hard for me to sit in place and "do nothing".

So I've already been doing some figuring for my medicine cabinet. Looks like just about 12" above the sink basin is probably going to be the best height for it. The back of the 3 glass shades only protrude 3.5" from the wall, while the cabinet itself is 5" from the wall (Only on the very top and very bottom where it protrudes further than the rest of the cabinet. The rest of the cabinet is 4" from the wall, but this is important because of the lamp).


I wasn't going to go this high in the first place since it was obviously at least 3" higher from where the old cabinet was centered, but the dimensions from the floor for standard desired "eye level" had it quite a bit higher. I don't recall the exact number for eye level off the top of my head, but centering my cabinet on it left me just shy of 13" above the basin, which is too close to the glass shades since they don't stick out further, IMO and I really need to go at least 1/2" lower to be able to affix my cabinet to the very top stud of their old frame out, otherwise I have to go out to the garage and cut another one to put on top of the existing one and out as far as the rest of the drywall so the screws weren't just floating in between the cabinet and the new stud.



I found out really quick that I'd better do ALL of the electric for that switch before I put the cabinet in there. I knew I'd have to have the exact height so I knew where to screw the base of the plastic junction box on the side of the cabinet, but I didn't realize just how hard it would be to do an electric box with a switch facing the wall only about 1.5" to 2.0" from the wall. Probably not an impossible task, but one that I'm grateful I just avoided.

So now I've put the entire box together, switch faceplate and all, and wired all my electric back up after I drilled 2 more holes to the side of the existing one so it would just barely clear where I needed it to without anybody ever being able to see that hole from any angle.

And I know the exact length I need for that flex, so I gave myself one additional "loop" of the flex that I can force back in if I need to, but otherwise, the flex conduit has now been attached firmly to studs within 12" of the box as per code.

All I should have to do now is screw the box into the side of the cabinet at the exact necessary height, zip 4 screws through the cab into the massive amount of 2x4's they left me above and below that opening, and snap the box into place and I should be good.



I don't think I'm even going to paint that switch box. It came in a nice color that matches my white trim already, and the front of the cabinet has about a 1.2" lip over the side, so half of that is going to be hidden anyhow. If I decide to paint it after it's all up, no biggie. I'm a big boy and I can cut in without making a mess of everything.

I find this preferable to waiting on a few coats of paint and not being able to get this done tonight anyhow. If I can get that cab up on the wall, my electric is all done in the bathroom except for adding total GFCI protection for the room, and the door and both shelves for that cab are finished so I can have all that put up too.

Although I might put contact paper on the shelves before anything goes back in there for keeps.



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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 6:15 PM

BRENDA


Quote:

Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Yeah. I think it would be a great idea for you. I'm sure they have online things where you can teach yourself, but you might be like me and not give it the attention it deserves if you're teaching yourself on your own time frame without the rigid structure of a class setting. I'm really good at teaching myself things I'm interested in learning, but if I don't have any real interest in it, it's probably not going to be something I learn on my own.


In the meantime, you should plug your drive into your computer. Open up File Explorer. Look on the left "pane" (It's why they call it Windows, afterall...).

You should see something that says "This PC" in that left pane.

Underneath this, it would list out all of your currently attached drives.

You will definately have (C:). If you have a CD/DVD player attached, that would be (D:).

I'd like you to do this and tell me that you see these and you know what I'm talking about.


Do you have a CD/DVD drive?

I'd also like to know that because then we'll know if the thumbstick would be (D:) or (E:). It's almost certainly one of the two.



(Sometimes I've gone up to the letters I, J, K, and even L before. But I've got a LOT of drives and network storage that uses up a lot more letters than you're ever likely to use).


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Yeah, I need visual as well as just written instructions. Like I said my local college should have something. Even if it costs a bit. It will be worth it in the long run.

I will try that again and hopefully it works when I do it.

It does have a DVD drive on it and possible CD.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 6:20 PM

BRENDA


Stay safe from the weather SIX.

Where I am we get all the news on the big storms down there.

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Wednesday, June 17, 2026 6:21 PM

BRENDA


All done for today. Even got stray changed cleared off the kitchen table.

Fresh peas for supper tonight. Delish.

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