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Hey. Look at that... Somebody in the news is actually pointing out for once what I've already known for a long time.

* Just don't forget he's also more popular the Joe Biden* was in his first and only term at this time as well.

Shame it has to come from FOX, but it wasn't like any Lefty shit organization was going to point it out.

(See link in next post since the long link length ruins formatting here at fff.net)


If that bottom part is true, it's one more reason why I'm going to be making my return to the workforce at a good time.

Quote:
Then he needs to say, looking forward, here is what we are focusing on. The Trump agenda: that is, no tax on tips hitting next year, no tax on overtime hitting next year, boost to the child tax credit to $2,200 next year, expanding savings accounts next year, doubling the standard deduction. That all happens next year. There’s more to be done.


They're going to double the Federal standard deduction next year?

That's huge, if true. A quick google search doesn't turn up anything verifying that claim right now, however, with the Standard Deduction for 2026 currently documented as raising only to $16,100, up from $15,750 in 2025.

The last year that I did work, I had to pay several hundred in Federal taxes making the piddly shit that I made in 2019. Under 2025 deductions, I wouldn't have paid anything, but that's at $11.50 per hour. If I had that same job today, the company is paying no less than $15.00/hour nationwide, and I would have seen significant tax savings had I worked the same amount of hours and the standard deduction were doubled.


I really hope they do this. This federal tax break for individuals making $32,000 or less will be a huge boon to those who need it most. It's good for everybody else too, since that will equate to roughly another $1,700 in tax savings for everyone making over $32,000 a year as well, since they don't start paying any federal taxes on any of the money below $32,000 instead of only $16,000. (a 12% savings on federal taxes which is going to be levied on those in the under $48,000 bracket)

And on a personal level, I'll feel a lot better about working when my tax dollars aren't going to fund things like USAid, trandgender surgeries for prison inmates, abortion sprees and worldwide wars.






OH... and on a side note, get with the fucking program, Indiana.

How come my standard deduction in Indiana is only $1,000 and hasn't risen a fucking penny since I moved here 14 years ago? Especially after Democrats in Lake County raised the County income tax from the lowest in the state to the highest in the state back in the mid 2010s.

You need to raise that to at least the current federal rate.

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Hey. Look at that... Somebody in the news is actually pointing out for once what I've already known for a long time.

* Just don't forget he's also more popular the Joe Biden* was in his first and only term at this time as well.

Shame it has to come from FOX, but it wasn't like any Lefty shit organization was going to point it out.

(See link in next post since the long link length ruins formatting here at fff.net)


If that bottom part is true, it's one more reason why I'm going to be making my return to the workforce at a good time.

Quote:
Then he needs to say, looking forward, here is what we are focusing on. The Trump agenda: that is, no tax on tips hitting next year, no tax on overtime hitting next year, boost to the child tax credit to $2,200 next year, expanding savings accounts next year, doubling the standard deduction. That all happens next year. There’s more to be done.


They're going to double the Federal standard deduction next year?

That's huge, if true. A quick google search doesn't turn up anything verifying that claim right now, however, with the Standard Deduction for 2026 currently documented as raising only to $16,100, up from $15,750 in 2025.

The last year that I did work, I had to pay several hundred in Federal taxes making the piddly shit that I made in 2019. Under 2025 deductions, I wouldn't have paid anything, but that's at $11.50 per hour. If I had that same job today, the company is paying no less than $15.00/hour nationwide, and I would have seen significant tax savings had I worked the same amount of hours and the standard deduction were doubled.


I really hope they do this. This federal tax break for individuals making $32,000 or less will be a huge boon to those who need it most. It's good for everybody else too, since that will equate to roughly another $1,700 in tax savings for everyone making over $32,000 a year as well, since they don't start paying any federal taxes on any of the money below $32,000 instead of only $16,000. (a 12% savings on federal taxes which is going to be levied on those in the under $48,000 bracket)

And on a personal level, I'll feel a lot better about working when my tax dollars aren't going to fund things like USAid, trandgender surgeries for prison inmates, abortion sprees and worldwide wars.






OH... and on a side note, get with the fucking program, Indiana.

How come my standard deduction in Indiana is only $1,000 and hasn't risen a fucking penny since I moved here 14 years ago? Especially after Democrats in Lake County raised the County income tax from the lowest in the state to the highest in the state back in the mid 2010s.

You need to raise that to at least the current federal rate.

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Hey. Look at that... Somebody in the news is actually pointing out for once what I've already known for a long time.

* Just don't forget he's also more popular the Joe Biden* was in his first and only term at this time as well.

Shame it has to come from FOX, but it wasn't like any Lefty shit organization was going to point it out.

(See link in next post since the long link length ruins formatting here at fff.net)


If that bottom part is true, it's one more reason why I'm going to be making my return to the workforce at a good time.

Quote:
Then he needs to say, looking forward, here is what we are focusing on. The Trump agenda: that is, no tax on tips hitting next year, no tax on overtime hitting next year, boost to the child tax credit to $2,200 next year, expanding savings accounts next year, doubling the standard deduction. That all happens next year. There’s more to be done.


They're going to double the Federal standard deduction next year?

That's huge, if true. A quick google search doesn't turn up anything verifying that claim right now, however, with the Standard Deduction for 2026 currently documented as raising only to $16,100, up from $15,750 in 2025.

The last year that I did work, I had to pay several hundred in Federal taxes making the piddly shit that I made in 2019. Under 2025 deductions, I wouldn't have paid anything, but that's at $11.50 per hour. If I had that same job today, the company is paying no less than $15.00/hour nationwide, and I would have seen significant tax savings had I worked the same amount of hours and the standard deduction were doubled.


I really hope they do this. This federal tax break for individuals making $32,000 or less will be a huge boon to those who need it most. It's good for everybody else too, since that will equate to roughly another $1,700 in tax savings for everyone making over $32,000 a year as well, since they don't start paying any federal taxes on any of the money below $32,000 instead of only $16,000. (a 12% savings on federal taxes which is going to be levied on those in the under $48,000 bracket)

And on a personal level, I'll feel a lot better about working when my tax dollars aren't going to fund things like USAid, trandgender surgeries for prison inmates, abortion sprees and worldwide wars.






OH... and on a side note, get with the fucking program, Indiana.

How come my standard deduction in Indiana is only $1,000 and hasn't risen a fucking penny since I moved here 14 years ago? Especially after Democrats in Lake County raised the County income tax from the lowest in the state to the highest in the state back in the mid 2010s.

You need to raise that to at least the current federal rate.

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Hey. Look at that... Somebody in the news is actually pointing out for once what I've already known for a long time.

* Just don't forget he's also more popular the Joe Biden* was in his first and only term at this time as well.

Shame it has to come from FOX, but it wasn't like any Lefty shit organization was going to point it out.

(See link in next post since the long link length ruins formatting here at fff.net)


If that bottom part is true, it's one more reason why I'm going to be making my return to the workforce at a good time.

Quote:
Then he needs to say, looking forward, here is what we are focusing on. The Trump agenda: that is, no tax on tips hitting next year, no tax on overtime hitting next year, boost to the child tax credit to $2,200 next year, expanding savings accounts next year, doubling the standard deduction. That all happens next year. There’s more to be done.


They're going to double the Federal standard deduction next year?

That's huge, if true. A quick google search doesn't turn up anything verifying that claim right now, however, with the Standard Deduction for 2026 currently documented as raising only to $16,100, up from $15,750 in 2025.

The last year that I did work, I had to pay several hundred in Federal taxes making the piddly shit that I made in 2019. Under 2025 deductions, I wouldn't have paid anything, but that's at $11.50 per hour. If I had that same job today, the company is paying no less than $15.00/hour nationwide, and I would have seen significant tax savings had I worked the same amount of hours and the standard deduction were doubled.


I really hope they do this. This federal tax break for individuals making $32,000 or less will be a huge boon to those who need it most. It's good for everybody else too, since that will equate to roughly another $1,700 in tax savings for everyone making over $32,000 a year as well, since they don't start paying any federal taxes on any of the money below $32,000 instead of only $16,000. (a 12% savings on federal taxes which is going to be levied on those in the under $48,000 bracket)

And on a personal level, I'll feel a lot better about working when my tax dollars aren't going to fund things like USAid, trandgender surgeries for prison inmates, abortion sprees and worldwide wars.






OH... and on a side note, get with the fucking program, Indiana.

How come my standard deduction in Indiana is only $1,000 and hasn't risen a fucking penny since I moved here 14 years ago? Especially after Democrats in Lake County raised the County income tax from the lowest in the state to the highest in the state back in the mid 2010s.

You need to raise that to at least the current federal rate.

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Remember around 3pm that I had forgotten an appointment. Will have to see if I can reschedule it.



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You trolling me comrade is why. Funny...

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The research project, conducted by an elite group of scientists at the University of Cambridge, discovered that millions of people around the globe have grown wary of Muslims due in large part to the fact that Muslims keep committing horrific acts of murderous violence around the world.

"Yeah, they just keep killing people all the time, and I guess that makes people a little nervous," said Professor Heinrich Glarkenbargen. "While we have been able to confirm a rise in the general fear of the spread of Islam in the West, our data suggests this might stem from Muslim terrorists committing acts of violence and murder pretty much every day over the last several decades."

The team concluded that if Muslims were to stop killing people all the time, the general populace may be far more inclined to be less afraid of them. "The results were clear," Glarkenbargen said. "Out of all the people we surveyed, 100% of them said that they were worried about Muslim migrants because they were afraid of being shot or stabbed or set on fire or blown up. They also said that if Muslims weren't killing people all the time, there wouldn't be as much islamophobia."

At publishing time, the research team was unavailable to comment further due to fleeing for their lives from a Muslim who was trying to kill them.

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It wasn't the vampire's, was it?

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Nobody is trolling you, you miserable little twerp.

Grow the fuck up and stop behaving like a child.

Your old man should have slapped you all around when you were a kid and got your head on straight before you grew up to be hated by everyone you know.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html

Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM


WHOZIT


Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:55 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


November can't come fast enough.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:07 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.
Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T


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Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:34 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:49 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.


I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:25 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM


WHOZIT


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM


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Originally posted by whozit:

Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.



I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


T


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.


That's the spirit, second!

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:18 PM


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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:48 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:05 PM


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That's the spirit, second!
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:22 PM


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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
sia-us-troops-no-fly-zone-nuclear-weapons

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:34 PM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O




If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

T


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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:58 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 2:31 PM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.
Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .
News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.




I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.
You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.



An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Keep it real please


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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.



Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

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Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T



Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!



I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
-russia-ukraine-prediction-not-coincidental-1235099000/

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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
-put-on-high-alert

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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/trump-at-cpac-calls-putin-
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Yeah. But what about Covid?

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Yeah. But what about Covid?
On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64782&mid=11496
47#1149647

On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

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Keep it real please



All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

https://california18.com/live-kiev-surrounded-follow-the-news-of-the-w
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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html

Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM


WHOZIT


Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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6IXSTRINGJACK


November can't come fast enough.

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.
Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T


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Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:34 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:49 AM


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Quote:
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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.


I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:25 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM


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Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.



I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM


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Quote:
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I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.


That's the spirit, second!

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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:48 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html

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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
sia-us-troops-no-fly-zone-nuclear-weapons

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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O




If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

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He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.
Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .
News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.




I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.
You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.



An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.



Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

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Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T



Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Quote:
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!



I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/trump-at-cpac-calls-putin-
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Yeah. But what about Covid?

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Yeah. But what about Covid?
On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
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On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

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Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

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Keep it real please



All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html

Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM


WHOZIT


Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:55 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


November can't come fast enough.

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.
Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM


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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T


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Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:34 PM


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Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:49 AM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.


I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:25 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM


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Originally posted by whozit:

Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM


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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.



I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM


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Quote:
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I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.


That's the spirit, second!

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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:48 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html

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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by second:

‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O




If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:58 PM


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He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 2:31 PM


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... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.
Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .
News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Vaccinated People: "You need to get muh vaccination shots that don't work because I got muh vaccination shots that don't work and I'm afraid of people that didn't get muh vaccination shots that don't work because muh vaccination shots that don't work don't work."

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.




I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.
You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.



An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.



Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

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Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T



Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Quote:
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!



I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/trump-at-cpac-calls-putin-
smart-ukraine-attack-a-travesty-and-biden-dumb

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Sunday, February 27, 2022 2:27 PM


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Yeah. But what about Covid?

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. But what about Covid?
On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64782&mid=11496
47#1149647

On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

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6IXSTRINGJACK


Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

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Keep it real please



All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

https://california18.com/live-kiev-surrounded-follow-the-news-of-the-w
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So, how's Christmas shaping up?

SIX, are you going to get in touch with anyone? Or, preferably see them in person? Your Christmas gift, as I've been told, is warmer weather. Right?

BRENDA, gonna make use of that phone and call friends and family far away? I hope so!

THGR (resident troll: smile:) doing anything special that day?

Our Christmas gift this year is rain. The infamous "they" are predicting a bit more than 4.5" of rain over 4 days, more in the foothills. And not just here. One Pineapple Express is heading to San Fran before wobbling north, and one is heading here. So it'll be a Christmas gift for all of California ( altho as BRENDA mentioned, not so much for Washington State, which saw a record 18" in one event and got massively flooded.)

I hope you all have a Merry Christmas. Thinking warmly of you, with hopes for a New Year of happiness and better health.

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So, how's Christmas shaping up?

SIX, are you going to get in touch with anyone? Or, preferably see them in person? Your Christmas gift, as I've been told, is warmer weather. Right?

BRENDA, gonna make use of that phone and call friends and family far away? I hope so!

THGR (resident troll: smile:) doing anything special that day?

Our Christmas gift this year is rain. The infamous "they" are predicting a bit more than 4.5" of rain over 4 days, more in the foothills. And not just here. One Pineapple Express is heading to San Fran before wobbling north, and one is heading here. So it'll be a Christmas gift for all of California ( altho as BRENDA mentioned, not so much for Washington State, which saw a record 18" in one event and got massively flooded.)

I hope you all have a Merry Christmas. Thinking warmly of you, with hopes for a New Year of happiness and better health.

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Hey SIG. I'll be talking to friends in Alberta and will leave a message on Face Book about gift exchange. My cousin will get a message on Face Book. Oh and I am not going over to my boss' for Christmas.

I hear ya about the rain. There is still more heading my way. Green Christmas for me. Skiers are loving it. Most of the ski hills in BC are open.

Have a good Christmas SIG.

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Take your little promise and shove it up your gaping faggot asshole with all the I Told You So's I've put up there over the years, twink boy screen bitch.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html

Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM


WHOZIT


Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:55 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


November can't come fast enough.

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.
Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T


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Thursday, February 24, 2022 8:34 PM


6IXSTRINGJACK


Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:49 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by JEWELSTAITEFAN:
I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.


I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:25 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by whozit:

Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.



I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


Quote:
Originally posted by second:
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.


That's the spirit, second!

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:18 PM


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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:48 PM


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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html

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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
sia-us-troops-no-fly-zone-nuclear-weapons

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Friday, February 25, 2022 1:34 PM


THG

Keep it real please


Quote:
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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O




If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

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He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.
Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .
News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.




I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.
You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.



An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.



Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

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Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T



Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
ise-unsurprising

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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!



I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
-put-on-high-alert

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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/trump-at-cpac-calls-putin-
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Yeah. But what about Covid?

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Yeah. But what about Covid?
On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64782&mid=11496
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On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

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Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

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Keep it real please



All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

https://california18.com/live-kiev-surrounded-follow-the-news-of-the-w
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Thursday, February 24, 2022 11:42 AM


CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/23/world/europe/putin-speech-russia-uk
raine.html

Word by Word and Between the Lines: A Close Look at Putin’s Speech



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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:33 PM


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Hey. There he is.

Ted's been crying since you've been gone.

How's the first terrible year of Biden*'s horrible presidency treating you?


P.S.

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:34 PM


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Well get ready because China is going to move next, and keep an eye on Iran

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November can't come fast enough.

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Barack Obama is President: Putin invades Crimea.

Donald Trump is President: Putin doesn't do shit.

Joe Biden* is President: Putin invades Ukraine.

One of these things is not like the other.
Putin is a thug; Ukraine is more or less blameless in all this; Donald Trump should be ashamed of himself; ditto for much of the Republican Party and its poltroonish "Putin is only doing this because Biden is weak" crap; every Western country should toss out Russian nationals and restrict visitor visas to one week; Europe needs to get more serious about military power; this is the first major European war in which one country has invaded another with the intent of permanently taking its territory.

Russia under Putin is a pariah nation. Whatever else you can say about the US invasion of Iraq—and you can say plenty—it was never an attempt to annex territory permanently. This is. Russia needs to be isolated from the rest of the world as long as it pursues this kind of war.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:36 PM


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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

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Yes. Please. Stick around G. One more screaming and crying voice to watch fall apart when November comes around and Democrats are never in power again.

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Thursday, February 24, 2022 9:41 PM


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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.

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Quote:
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I thought pizmo beach was in CA. Maybe it's actually in Ukraine. Which explains a lot.


I think heard somewhere that Putin has been captured by Ukrainian special ops.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 9:54 AM


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Quote:
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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

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Friday, February 25, 2022 10:48 AM


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Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.
You might think this is a satirical story from The Onion, but it is the New York Times:

Putin Threatens Nuclear War Against The Planet, As Experts Question His Sanity

Putin made clear his true target is America’s “empire of lies,” and he threatened “consequences you have never faced in your history” for “anyone who tries to interfere with us.”

Given Russia’s nuclear arsenal, he said, “there should be no doubt that any potential aggressor will face defeat and ominous consequences should it directly attack our country.” He added: “All necessary decisions have been taken in this regard.”

https://web.archive.org/web/20220225074515/https://www.nytimes.com/202
2/02/24/world/europe/us-putin-nuclear-war-nato.html

Somebody needs to talk to Putin like Mal talked to the Operative in Serenity: "You do that, best make peace with your dear and fluffy lord."

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:32 AM


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Bull, when the war is over in Ukraine in a few weeks the EU will want to be friends with Vlad again and he knows this.
I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.

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Friday, February 25, 2022 11:37 AM


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Keep it real please


Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

What an evil selfish prick Putin is. Does anyone but him benefit from this? And now? After 2 years of covid crap? Kill thousands and crash the world economy so he can redraw a MAP?!?? What fcking dinosaur. I look forward to watching this blow up in his face.




Hey G. Can you stick around a bit? It would be so so good to have another sane person keeping tabs on this. Also, its' good to see you're good.

T



Hey T - good to see you as well. I've checked in from time to time, but sadly nothing ever seems to change. Same broken logic, same idiocy, same lack of any intelligent discussion. Just stupid blah blah and repeat. We'll see.



I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


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Friday, February 25, 2022 12:17 PM


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Quote:
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I think Ukraine has already lost. The President of Ukraine just hasn't fled, yet, but this guy was NOT ready. Even last week he would not admit war was about to happen to him.

The governments of the EU which are actually controlled by the richest 1% of population will very possibly want to be friends with Putin, next year, because to permanently stop trading with Russia would reduce the wealth of the 1% wealthiest. As for the rest of voters, they don't want the high fuel prices and shortages caused by not trading with Russia, and they will express themselves when voting.

To see EU actually blow up the Kremlin and Putin? That would be too disruptive for EU to even think about it. They'd worry about who'd replace Putin. Much easier for America to give some anti-tank weapons to Ukraine and the EU be disappointed when Ukrainian soldiers use a few of the missiles and then resell the rest for a profit after fleeing Ukraine.


That's the spirit, second!

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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O

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Quote:
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I hear you G. Truth be told I could chose to leave tomorrow, but for today I’m here.

I have long dispelled any notion of a firefly reboot G but with Disney now owning it there is hope. Disney is up to its neck in space shows. If it is rebooted this site will bang back to life unless all that are left are trolls. If there is to be a reboot it may not be too long off. Pushing back against the trolls may be what’s needed at the moment to allow a fireflyfans reboot as well.


1. Disney destroys everything it touches. If Disney reboots firefly, it won't have more than one season, and this time it will be well earned.

2. You need to get it out of your head that you are special or important. You are neither. None of us are. Nobody here is keeping a Firefly reboot from being made, and nobody here is going to do anything to make sure that one is made.

3. If this site stays up for the long haul, history will show that you were on the wrong side the whole time. You are not the good guy.

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Quote:
Originally posted by captaincrunch:

That's the spirit, second!
It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:

UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/sport/champions-league-final-russia-ukr
aine-sport-reaction-spt-intl/index.html

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Why the US won’t send troops to Ukraine

In 1990, Iraq invaded Kuwait in a naked war of territorial aggression. The next year, the US and an allied coalition intervened under the auspices of the United Nations Security Council, repulsing the Iraqi invasion. Today, as Russia is engaged in a similar aggressive war against Ukraine, there is no similar American effort in the offing — even as Ukrainian leaders have pleaded for Western assistance. Not gonna get it.

There are many dissimilarities between the situations in 1991 and 2022, but the biggest one is this: Saddam Hussein, rather famously, did not have nuclear weapons. Vladimir Putin has approximately 6,000 of them. And that makes all the difference.

Both before the invasion and afterward, the Biden administration has consistently ruled out the deployment of US troops. “Let me say it again: Our forces are not — and will not — be engaged in the conflict with Russia in Ukraine,” the president said in a Thursday address. Despite the warnings of American involvement from commentators on the Trumpist right and “anti-imperialist” left, there are no signs of this policy changing. Nuclear weapons are the chief reason why.

The logic of mutually assured destruction that defined the Cold War still works, to some degree: Russia’s arsenal makes any direct intervention in Ukraine riskier than any rational American leader could tolerate. In a sense, then, Russia’s nuclear weapons make it less likely that the conflict will kick off World War III.

But in another sense, Russia’s nuclear arsenal also helped create the conditions where Putin’s invasion could happen in the first place.

Political scientists call this the “stability-instability paradox,” the notion that nuclear deterrence has had the paradoxical effect of making certain kinds of conventional warfare more likely. Russia can be relatively confident that the United States and its allies won’t come to Ukraine’s defense directly, because such a clash carries the threat of nuclear war. This could make Putin more confident that his invasion could succeed.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/2/25/22949351/ukraine-rus
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‘This might be the last time you see me alive,’ Ukrainian president says.

Zelenskyy said in the same speech that he was “target No. 1” for Russian forces.

Zelenskyy said his family was target No. 2.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-ukraine-live-updates-this-
might-be-the-last-time-you-see-me-alive-ukrainian-president-says/ar-AAUax9O




If they get him, it is because he is an ass. Everybody but him seemed to realize you can't set up shop in a city that can be quickly taken over. That same stupidity kept him telling his people Russia won't invade. At first maybe to keep calm but even then, he should have had them prepare.

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He should find out where Justin Trudeau was hiding for weeks.

One of the safest places on the planet.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.

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Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.
Less symbolism and more materialism, if the EU was not pouring HUGE quantities of money into Russia, Putin wouldn't feel invulnerable.

Putin believes the EU will keep buying his Russian brand of fuel. If Putin's belief is correct, he can invade Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania and only expect more symbolism from the EU. The EU is gonna have to decide whether to either say goodbye to the Baltic States or goodbye to Russian fuel. If Putin is right and the EU will not cut back on fuel purchases than the EU can only fight him with more symbolism, and more words, and more refugees from Ukraine. I'm absolutely sure Putin will be pleased to send the EU many more refugees who don't speak Russian as their first language.

Russia’s economy is highly dependent on exports of commodities with revenues from sales of crude oil, petroleum products, and natural gas accounting for about a half of Russia’s federal budget. Russia’s main exports are: fuels and energy products (63 percent of total shipments) . . .

https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/exports

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I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. . . .
News from Feb 25, 2022 -- Question marks surround the U.S.-licensed Haas team, which has connections to Russia through its title sponsor Uralkali and driver Nikita Mazepin, a Russian-born driver who joined Haas in 2021. Mazepin’s father Dmitry, who controls the Uralkali firm that specializes in potash fertilizer, is a close confidant of Putin. Mazepin, 22, drove the car on Friday morning but did so in an all-white livery after its red and blue, which drew comparisons to the Russian flag, was removed.
https://www.autoweek.com/racing/formula-1/a39222996/haas-f1-team-sudde
nly-headache-russian-connections/

I'm sure Putin doesn't care if some Russian kid drives, or doesn't. If a million Russian drivers couldn't race, it still wouldn't make Putin even blink at leaving Ukraine.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back. He could not have seen this shit coming.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.




I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke. Reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock


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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.
You're such a drama queen, 6ix. 6ix probably doesn't understand SWIFT. What is it?

The Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) was founded in 1973 to replace the telex and is now used by over 11,000 financial institutions to send secure messages and payment orders. With no globally accepted alternative, it is essential plumbing for global finance.

Removing Russia from SWIFT would make it much harder for financial institutions to send money in or out of the country, delivering a sudden shock to Russian companies and their foreign customers — especially buyers of oil and gas exports denominated in US dollars.

What happens if Russia is removed from SWIFT?

There is precedent for removing a country from SWIFT.

SWIFT unplugged Iranian banks in 2012 after they were sanctioned by the European Union over the country’s nuclear program. Iran lost almost half of its oil export revenue and 30% of foreign trade following the disconnection, according to Shagina.

Senior Russian lawmakers have said that shipments of oil, gas and metals to Europe would stop.

“If Russia is disconnected from SWIFT, then we will not receive foreign currency, but buyers, European countries in the first place, will not receive our goods — oil, gas, metals and other important components,” Nikolai Zhuravlev, vice speaker of Russia’s upper house of parliament, said last week, according to state media outlet TASS.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/25/business/swift-russia-putin

6ix, without SWIFT, Europe and Russian trade would switch to bartering rather than payments in money. But the bartering could be cut off by closing railroads and pipelines from Russia, which takes more physical effort than disconnecting Russia from SWIFT.

Russia has taken steps in recent years to blunt the trauma should it be removed from SWIFT.

Moscow established its own payment system, SPFS, after it was hit by Western sanctions in 2014 following its annexation of Crimea. SPFS now has around 400 users, according to Russia’s central bank. Twenty percent of domestic transfers are currently done through SPFS, according to Shagina, but the size of messages are limited and operations are limited to weekday hours.

China’s fledgling Cross-Border Interbank Payment System, or CIPS, may provide another alternative to SWIFT. Moscow could also be forced to resort to using cryptocurrencies.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.

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If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.

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I reject your premise that we need bullies and corrupt bad guys to deal with their bullies and corrupt bad guys. I further reject your premise that Russia China and Iran can take over half the world unless they currently hold that much territory. Their expansionism will be checked. Especially now since they are seeing the consequences Russia is and are going to suffer.

So far, it’s said the Russians have lost 14 planes, 8 helicopters, 102 tanks, 536 BBM, armored combat vehicles, 15 heavy machine guns, and 1 BUK missile since Feb. 24, according to Ukraine's military. The Kremlin also lost over 3,500 soldiers. Remember, this does not include the sanctions, and China is watching.

They’re getting their clocks cleaned by an army with half their resources and training. China is even less capable of actual fighting. Iran and North Korea are little more than an irritant. As for America being to woke to fight back, think again.

Without firing a shot America and our allies have helped Ukraine shame the Russian army. If Putin wants he’ll commit the rest of his troops and shut the active war down but the Ukrainian army has sent a chilling message to Moscow. And it is prepared to fight as an insurgency going forward.

You want to talk about woke? Europe has been woke, reminded why they stand united as NATO. It’s one of the biggest consequences of Russia’s behavior. NATO now has a huge new commitment to sustaining, improving and expanding.

tick tock



Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other, more coldly practical hand, it might be easier and a hell of a lot less deadly to hope for a swift capture of Ukraine so A) fighting would stop, and B) sanctions and the corner that Putin has put himself into will just get darker and darker until some able bodied Russian puts a slug in his head.



An equally cold assessment G is, the longer it goes on Russia’s military loses more of its assets which is better for Europe. And in the long run the world. If the reports of what they’ve lost so far are true, that’s massive.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm



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Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If they can cut off bank accounts to an entire nation, the Freedom Convoy never stood a chance.

The New World Order is in control now.

Look back fondly on 2019 and before it. Because the life we used to know will never be again.

Russia, China, and Iran are the New Axis powers. Between them they have everything they need (armies, nukes, oil revenues) to take over half the world, especially when the weak and woke West is "too civilized" to do a damn thing about it.

During 1945 when Russia was invading Germany from the East and then sacking Berlin, the Russian Army was actually encouraged by their officers to terrorize the civilian population. As many as 3 million German women and girls were brutalized and raped, often gang-raped. I wonder how CNN and the rest of their oh-so-progressive ilk will live with that reality playing out in front of their smug self-righteous retarded faces.


Do you know how much junk the US buys from China? A hell of a lot more than Russia does. I personally have sent a lot of money to China via Amazon over the last 2 years. They're not cutting us off any time soon.

And Iran? Really?

And why do Trump people watch so much CNN? I don't get it.



Agreed G. Russias’ GDP was $1.638 trillion in 2021. The European Union's GDP was estimated to be $18.8 trillion in 2018. Add to that the U.S. gross domestic product which was $23.9 trillion for the fourth quarter of 2021. Why the fuck would China go full bore with backing Russia? They’ve got their own problems and their desperate not to make their situation worse. America is China's economy.

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Truth! NATO looks more important than ever. On the one hand I wish they would go in and fight with Ukraine as if they were in NATO. On the other . . .
I don't think NATO does that sort of thing. NATO writes:

NATO’s success was reflected in the fact that, throughout the entire period of the Cold War, NATO forces were not involved in a single military engagement.

NATO’s first military operation -- In August 1995, NATO launched Operation Deliberate Force to compel an end to Serb-led violence in Bosnia-Herzegovina (BiH). This successful air campaign paved the way to the signing of the Dayton Peace Accords in December 1995. https://www.nato.int/summit2009/topics_en/02-introduction_to_nato_oper
ations.html

Since Bosnia-Herzegovina, NATO has tried a few military missions, but NATO has never before taken on a force as big as Russia. Since USA refuses to attempt to do the job, NATO forces won't step in. The job is too big for NATO.
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natolive/topics_52060.htm

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Agreed. It would be a mistake. I remember them from Bosnia-Herzegovina times. They seemed mostly a deterrent - bodies in uniforms - than an actual fighting force. I would not trust them to win any ground.

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Guy tries to stop convey with his body.

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All these years exposing Signym as a commie bastard and now she has no place to hide. And let's not forget Polish Russian Collaborator 1kiki who's hiding under a rock somewhere.

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It is NOT MUCH, but at least somebody will do something . . . 3 months from now:
UEFA moves Champions League Final from St. Petersburg Russia as sporting world reacts to Russian invasion of Ukraine. The game will be May 28, a little too late to discourage Putin. Is UEFA kicking all the Russian teams out of the sport? No, it is not. Also, a Formula 1 race will not be held in Russia on September 23-25. Truly a crushing blow to Putin. No, it is not. Will all Russian cars be kicked out of all races? No.


I was unaware that Russia owned any F1 Team. There was 1 Russian driver in F1 in 2021, Nikita Mazepin. He was so bad he placed 21st out of 20. He DNF'd 'did not finish,' in 5 races and simply 'did not show' for a 6th. His first race in '21 he did not make it through... wait for it... the first turn. I laughed so hard I almost hurt myself. So let 'em race. He was an embarrassment to all of Russia.

Yes, most things so far are purely symbolic. But some are powerful symbols, and if there are enough, together they can motivate change. Gazprom is being banned from sponsorship, Aeroflot banned from landing. Keep adding to those and we might find those 1% in the EU less likely to go along with Vlad the Evil Dipsht.



They've sanctioned Putin directly now which is unheard of. It makes the statement that they are done politically with him. That he is illegit. That's huge, and they are close to shutting down any commutations between Russia and any financial institutions outside of Russia. Again, that's huge.

Putin annexed both Crimea and Georgia and it was a cake walk. Neither of them nor the world fought back and because of that he could not have seen this shit coming.

T



Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.

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"It is outrageous, if unsurprising, that Trump would praise Putin’s murderous invasion of Ukraine as an act of 'genius.' It should concern us all that Putin is exactly the kind of leader Trump would like to be, and that so few Republicans have the courage to say this out loud."
- SEN. BERNIE SANDERS

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bernie-sanders-scolds-trump-putin-pra
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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!

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Here we go baby. The knockout punch. Russian banks cut off from SWIFT. The world has had enough of this guy. Watch the video. It's not long and wow, there is a finality in her speech about Russia's future.

Hey comrades signym and kiki what do you think, will Putin's own people will put a bullet in his head? The sooner the better I say.



I love that video! She’s not fcking around.

Here’s another. America IS in the war, even if remotely. American made Javelin tank killers.





“Holy shit!” God bless America.

Fwiw - Every US citizen should think about Ruski retaliation. Especially if fckhd gets more desperate. Cyber disruption, which means electric grid attacks, etc. Their tanks may be rolling death traps, but they have great hackers. Trust me!



I going to post my response to you G and then watch the video again.

Holy shit is right. At last count yesterday the Ukrainians took out 102 Russian tanks. After watching that demonstration it’s no wonder. They also took out over 500 armored personal carriers. Putin has to be shitting himself. He’s watching his army dissolve right in front of his eyes. I’ve heard it from different professional sources that the Russian military is scared shitless of our military. It's easy to see why.

As far as the hackers go, I was surprised like most he hasn’t used them more. Turns out the Russian military needs to use many of those same services themselves; go figure.


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“Simpsons” showrunner, Al Jean, spoke to The Hollywood Reporter: "I hate to say it, but I was born in 1961, so 30 years of my life were lived with the specter of the Soviet Union. So, to me, this is sadly more the norm than it is the prediction," Jean observed. "We just figured things were going to go bad."

"Historical aggression never really goes away, and you have to be super vigilant," he continued.

He offered up a more in-depth explanation: "In 1998, when this clip aired, it was maybe the zenith of U.S.-Russia relations. But, ever since [Russian President Vladimir] Putin got in, almost everybody has made it clear that he’s a bad guy and bad things are going to happen. There is the kind of prediction, where we reference something that has happened, happening again — we hope it wouldn’t, but sadly, it does."

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/simpsons-al-jean-says
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Putin's getting his H-bombs ready

Putin warned last week that countries who interfere with his invasion of Ukraine will face "consequences you have never seen."

Putin ordered the Russian defense minister and the chief of the military's General Staff to put the nuclear deterrent forces in a "special regime of combat duty." The move signals tensions could boil over into a nuclear war.

Putin spoke at a meeting Sunday with his top advisers and said NATO powers had made "aggressive statements" and that the West was imposing hard-hitting financial sanctions against Russia and himself.

"Western countries aren’t only taking unfriendly actions against our country in the economic sphere, but top officials from leading NATO members made aggressive statements regarding our country," Putin said in televised comments.

U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Linda Thomas-Greenfield said Sunday on CBS's "Face the Nation" that Putin's order is an unacceptable escalation.

"It means that President Putin is continuing to escalate this war in a manner that is totally unacceptable and we have to continue to stem his actions in the strongest possible way," she said.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/putin-orders-nuclear-deterrent-forces-be
-put-on-high-alert

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Trump at CPAC calls Putin ‘smart,' Ukraine attack a ‘travesty,’ and Biden ‘dumb’

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/trump-at-cpac-calls-putin-
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Yeah. But what about Covid?

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Quote:
Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Yeah. But what about Covid?
On one hand: “Nobody dies of Covid.” - 6ixStringJack
http://fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=64782&mid=11496
47#1149647

On the other hand: 972,956 are dead.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

On the third hand: my United States Congressman Brian Babin, D.D.S., Proudly Serving The 36rd District of Texas wrote me an email on Sunday that says nobody dies of Covid but Ukraine is all Biden’s fault. I’m beginning to think this D.D.S. is not a very good dentist. Reading all the way to end of his loony email, I can tell this dentist is addicted to laughing gas.

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Yup. Nobody dies of Covid.

Just wondering why the Media isn't terrorizing dummies like you about it anymore now that they've orchestrated a war for the war machine and why you're never going to hear from "Dr." Fauci again is all.



I honestly resent that I have to share oxygen with complete wastes of carbon such as yourself.

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Keep it real please



All flights out of Russia, commercial or otherwise, are prohibited from flying over Europe.

That's huge...

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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Kiev surrounded, says the mayor.

https://california18.com/live-kiev-surrounded-follow-the-news-of-the-w
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Our Christmas gift this year is rain. The infamous "they" are predicting a bit more than 4.5" of rain over 4 days, more in the foothills. And not just here. One Pineapple Express is heading to San Fran before wobbling north, and one is heading here. So it'll be a Christmas gift for all of California ( altho as BRENDA mentioned, not so much for Washington State, which saw a record 18" in one event and got massively flooded.)

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Continuing the story of the Battle on Boros storyline, that began twenty years ago during this website's Sereni-Tree adventures. Collecting multiple posts from numerous writers and condensing it to a single narrative. These story elements were originally written by Safeat2nd, TheRealMe, JadeHand and Needy


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Inside the vast hanger, the dusty silence is broken briefly by a shuffling, and then all is still again.

The hanger is roughly 60 meters by 100 meters. Shuttles of various designations line both of the long walls. There are two garage type doors, one at far end, flanked by a smaller personnel door and one midway along the side wall. The only other door is a personnel door at the other end of the hanger and it is ajar.

From the other side of the side garage door, the roar of an engine grows louder. There is a scream of rubber on asphalt and the side garage door crashes in followed by an Alliance military truck. The truck shudders to a stop amid the wreckage of the door, the engine smoking and knocking before finally dying.

The occupants breathe a sigh of relief. But their relief is short-lived. Shadowy shapes swarm the truck, dragging the occupants out and back into hiding. Silence settles over the hanger again.

--

At the far end of the hanger, the personnel door bursts inward, nearly jumping off its hinges. Safe pokes his head around the jam, quickly scanning the interior.

Safe stands outside the hanger next to an open door, his back against the wall.

Jacks stands on the other side of the door beside Citizen and Bride7 stands next to Safe. Bobbie sits slumped against the wall in between Safe and Bride7.

A small ring of flame appears in the air before them. It expands into what some recognize as one of Me’s dimensional portals. The man’s voice comes through like a distant echo:

"Hello, Bobbie? Bride7? Safe? Jack? This is Me. Can you hear me?"

Bobbie laughs. "Hi, You!"

"Ah, good! You ARE there! It would be most convenient to us if you could make it into space, but we could probably make it down to you. What is your location on Boros?"

Safe never got used to TRM’s talent during the Arkham affair, so it still surprised him. “We're at a hanger on the outskirts of Boros Prime. Looks like we have a way off this rock. We should be airborne in about ten…”

The portal closes before Safe can finish.

Safe quickly checks the hanger again then signals to Jack.

Jack and Citizen enter the hanger crouched, guns ready. Jack signals all clear and Safe and Bride7 carry Bobbie into the hanger.

Crouching inside the door, Safe whistles softly in awe at the line of shuttles. Jack draws Safes attention to the ruined truck halfway up the hanger.

“Hey, that looks like the truck I saw Mister Needy get into.” Bobbie whispers. The hanger is quiet and there is no movement from the truck.

“Citizen, you and Bride7 wait here. Keep an eye on the door; make sure no one comes in. Jack and I are going to scout the hanger”

Safe and Jack just about reach the truck when a man steps out from behind a shuttle beside the truck, clearing his throat.

“See, I knew where you were going. I must say though, it’s been an… exciting run.” Safe and Jack both level their guns on the newcomer.

“Ah ah ah… You don’t think I’d come here alone or without insurance do you?”

The man snaps his fingers and two Alliance guards step out of the shadows, one holding Amy the other, a groggy looking Needy.

“I have the other two as well. Now, are you ready to come along quietly?” On the floor near the door with Citizen and Bride7, Bobbie aims her pistol left-handed at the distant figures. “A gorram shuttle is in the way. Pull me three feet that way!”

Bride7 drags Bobbie as requested. The latter grits her teeth in pain. But then Bobbie points her pistol left-handed at the one holding Needy, then at the one holding Amy, then back. She frowns. “I can’t get them both before they can act. Not without some sort of distraction!" “Distraction, huh?” Bride7 brings a grenade out of her pocket, and holds its lever down while she pulls the pin. With her other hand, she grabs a second grenade, pulls its pin with her teeth, and spits it out. “If I get close enough to them, they’ll be real careful to pay attention to me! They want to shoot me, fine, I'll drop these babies and they'll blow them up too!" Bride7 advances toward the confrontation, careful to not get in Bobbie’s line of fire.

Bobbie blinks. “Hey, that’s dangerous!” Still disorientated from his whole ordeal, Needy struggles to keep his eyes open. In the last hour, he had held up a weapon store, got involved in a firefight, been fatally wounded and quite possibly been resurrected by some spiritual being. Or by Versa at the very least.

The device she had used could possibly have been responsible for his sudden recovery, he just didn’t know, but something told him there was more to it. Maybe it was normal under these circumstances to be somewhat disorientated, but he didn’t feel lost per se. He didn’t really know how he felt. He wasn’t surprised when the Alliance storm their vehicle when they did, neither was he too worried.

Maybe he was in shock.

Physically speaking, he had felt better.

But he wasn’t in pain. He’d been shot, but it didn’t sting, instead his body felt like it was burning up, like he was fighting an infection. He was weak, bruised and he struggled to stand. In fact, he would likely collapse right there and then if it wasn’t for the officer that held him at his left bicep.

“Now lower your weapons,” the man in charge orders Jack and Safe.

The two hesitate to listen to him.

“Drop your weapons now or you won’t like the consequences.” He threatens When Safe and Jack fail to comply, still evaluating the situation, the man signals to the officer that held Needy.

Needy tried to keep up with the conversation, his head still spinning. But things soon became clear when the officer beside him pressed the barrel of his gun against Needy’s temple.

Just then all the pain and confusion evaporated and his mind was once again clear. His purpose was focused.

“No!” Safe screamed, lowering his weapon – but it was too little, too late.

The officer pulled the trigger.

-- --

“You will be in a position to help your new friends. This is what you must do.” Needy recalled the words spoken to him before, and he realised that now was the time.

Maybe Safe’s scream triggered the reaction, or maybe it was gut instinct, whatever it was, Needy seized the opportunity.

Nobody was expecting it, not from a person that had already been shot and was about as alert as a dead duck. Not the Alliance’s men, the companion’s new colleagues… not even Needy himself – his reactions were almost superhuman in nature and came completely out of the blue.

In the split second that it took the officer to pull the trigger of his gun, Needy had felt a surge of energy within him and ripped himself from the man’s clutches and pulled away – dodging the bullet meant for him.

Before the officer can even react, Needy knocks him out cold with a solid punch to his chin, snatching the weapon from his hand as he falls.

Immediately he spins around to the other officer that stands over Amy and uses the barrel of the gun to strike him on his brow.

With the officer knocked down but not out, Amy jumps aside, away from his grasp. Acting more like a program than a man on the defensive, Needy next turns around again, and faces the leader of the soldiers. Then with a cold soulless look in his eyes, raises the weapon he has obtained and aims it at the head of the man. Needy doesn’t speak. Just waits for instruction from Safe Both Safe and Jack stand mouths open in shock. The squad leader, however, looks unimpressed, his hands still clasped behind his back. “That was most… unexpected and a little disappointing.”

Out of the corner of his eye Safe sees Bride7 advancing, a nasty grin on her face and a live grenade clutched in each hand.

“Whoa!! Hold, Bride7!!” Safe turns making a calming motion with his hands. “Let’s see what the man has to say now.”

Safe turn back to the squad leader “Seems the tables are turned now.”

“On the contrary Mr. “Safe”, the deck, as you would say, is still stacked in my favour. You don’t honestly think I would come undermanned when breaking the back of the underground, and capturing an Alliance traitor, do you?” The man waves a blue hand at the shadows. Eight more soldiers appear, two holding Versa and a slumping Flechette. The one holding Flechette sported a rapidly expanding bruise on his cheek and a bloody nose.

“There is another squad approaching as we speak, so you see, your running is over.”

- Outside the hanger, a group of ten troops approach the building, unaware that they were being watched. As the lead trooper grabs the handle of the side-door, he finds it sticks. But it’s not locked. Puzzled, he watches as he watches small patches of ice form around the door. At first they seem like random patches, but soon the entire wall is encased in foot thick ice. The troops by the wall step back, mouths agape. The other soldiers stop and stare. - Unaware of what was happening outside, Safe gasps “How many of you are there??” The adrenaline drained away, leaving in its place a gnawing void created by blood loss, overexertion and the crushing weight of guilt. He couldn’t see how they were going to get out of this. Yet more people were going to die because of his actions. A cold chill ran through his body.

Safe left arm sagged, the gun falling from his numb fingers. Why were these people willing to die? He had led a squad of soldiers that would have, and eventually did, die for him. But that was born from a bond built on the battlefield. With the exception of Jack, he had known these people too briefly to build that bond. “Why?” Safe whispered as his shoulders sagged in defeat.

“Safe!” Jack called out “You’re not going to let this piece of go se win are you? We’re so close.”

- “If Safe doesn’t get a move on, I’m not going to be able to talk our way out of this one,” Citizen thought to himself

He’d been guarding the back door when a weight forced the door closed. Citizen turned back shocked, yanking his hand away leaving skin still attached to the door knob. “What the..?” he exclaimed as frost crept up the metal door. -

Gunshots and shouting outside and Jack’s momentary distraction was all opportunity the soldier holding Flechette needed. With Safe’s one gun hand wavering and Jack no longer looking at their leader, the soldier fired on the only remaining threat, Needy.

Needy looked around in shock at the sound, trying to assess who was hit. Needy looked at the leader and saw his grin of triumph fade to a look of confusion. The man was staring at him.

Needy looked down and saw a stain of blood slowly expanding on the high right side of his chest. He fully expected to pass-out; as he had done before, when it occurred to him that there was no pain. In fact the blood flow had slowed.

At this point, everything seemed to happen at once.

Flechette had apparently been playing possum. When her captor had raised his gun and fired, she had reacted instinctively. Her right arm flew up and backwards, the back of her elbow catching her captor right at the base of his nose. There was a snap and a spray of blood and the guard dropped, dead before he hit the floor.

*

Bobbie had watched the tension build. When Versa and Flechette had appeared, she had altered her aim. Something she had seen had convinced her that Flechette wasn’t out of the picture, so she had targeted the soldier holding Versa. Bobbie’s reaction had been almost instantaneous, breathing in deep to block her pain, she could swear that she saw her own breath as she exhaled and fired. Her gunshot echoing Flechettes captors’ gunshot, Versa’s captor dropped, a neat hole in his forehead.

*

Jack’s focus changes as the remaining six soldiers start to recover from the surprise. Jack’s sub-machine pistols blare, spraying death. Two soldiers are thrown backwards. The return fire from the soldiers is cut off almost before it can begin as Bride7’s two hand grenades bounce into their midst. The men drop their weapons in their haste to flee. They head for the hole in the side door caused by the truck. Bobbie and Citizen manage to drop two more before they make it out. The remaining two soldiers don’t’ make it far when a wall of ice seals the breach in the door and the fleeing soldiers mid-stride. The approaching soldiers remain on the other side, but now the blue hand was trapped in the room with Safe and his crew.

*

The blue hand fumbles in his pocket for the tool of his trade. He finally frees the pen shaped object when a gunshot shatters his hand and sends the “weapon” spinning across the hanger. The bluehand looks up, fear showing for the first time on his face, and stares down the barrel of Safe’s gun. - - From outside, a loud explosion shudders the hanger, sending the remaining soldiers hurtling into a wall of ice by a wave of fire. Those that aren’t immediately rendered unconscious are then set upon by a band of fighters. Unbeknowngst to the crew in the hanger, a small army was being taken apart outside by a trio of armed men. Back-up had arrived. - -

Whilst Safe, Citizen, Jack, and Bobbie keep the Blue Hand covered, Bride7 smirks as she casually walks up and retrieves the grenades she threw. She resets them, replaces their pins, and sticks them back onto her belt. “I always like to carry a pair of duds with me. You never know when you might need them for a little psychological warfare.”

“Now, now Captain, let us not be hasty.” The Blue Hand’s eyes never leave Safe’s.

“I’ve read your service records. You’re an… honorable man. You wouldn’t shoot and unarmed man, and as you can see I am unarmed.”

“I don’t have any such qualms.” Jack sneers. “Let me shoot ‘im Safe.”

“I’m sure we can come to an arrangement.” Blue Hands still refused to acknowledge the other members of the group. “Just walk out of here with me quietly. And they…” he waved his good hand dismissively at the others “Will be allowed to leave the building unharmed.”

“Say again??” Citizen blurts in amazement. “How the Blue Sun Corp. ever stays in business with that kinda twisted logic amazes and sickens me.”

“What would you know about business?” The Blue Hands snaps at Citizen, his calm demeanor starting to fray. “Wait… I know you, or should I say I knew your grandfather wasn’t it? He was a weak man.”

Citizen dives at the Blue Hands tackling him to the ground.

Jack, Bride7 and Safe struggle to separate the two. Jack and Bride7 pull Citizen off the Blue Hands while Safe pushes the Blue Hands down and plants his boot on the mans throat.

“I’LL KILL YOU ALL!!” The Blue Hands screams, clawing at Safe’s leg. “Bunch of stinking animals, that’s all you are! You are nothing, NOTHING!!”

Safe steps down harder on the man’s throat to control him. The Blue Hand is reduced to grunting, foam flying from his mouth with his exertions as he continues to claw at Safe’s leg.

“Versa, Flechette, can either of you prep a shuttle?” Flechette and Versa nod.

“Good, prep that shuttle over there.” Safe points to the larger shuttle at the top end of the hanger. Barely visible on its side are the markings ISSCV. “There’s a ship in orbit waiting for us. Jack, open the hanger roof.”

At that moment, the Blue Hand punches Safe in the back of the knee, loosening his hold on him. Safe’s gun bucks and Bluehand flops once and is still.

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Battle on Boros (A Sereni-Tree Story) - Chapter 1: Visitors
Chapter 1 of the Battle on Boros storyline, that began twenty years ago during this website's Sereni-Tree adventures. Collecting multiple posts from numerous writers and condensing it to a single narrative.
These story elements were originally written by Safeat2nd, TheRealMe, Citizen with additions by Needy

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