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Wasting Away in Wind-and-Solarville

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Friday, May 16, 2025 10:42 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2025/05/15/wasting_aw
ay_in_wind-and-solarville_1110296.html


I wish I knew where I was posting about this a few years back and I laid out the numbers after doing a ton of research on the topic and compare the notes.

And this article is all about the back-end of what we're going to be facing in the future. It doesn't appear to ever even bring up the environmental costs and pollution that it takes to make things like the fiberglass blades for the mills and what a carbon deficit they need to overcome by the end of their lives to justify their creation in the first place before they've ever made a single rotation.

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The current amounts of fiberglass, resins, aluminum and other chemicals – not to mention propeller blades from giant wind turbines – pose no threat current to local town dumps, but this largely ignored problem will become more of a challenge in the years ahead as the 500 million solar panels and the 73,000 wind turbines now operating in the U.S. are decommissioned and replaced.

Greens insist that reductions in carbon emissions will more than compensate for increased levels of potentially toxic garbage; others fret that renewable energy advocates have not been forthright about their lack of eco-friendly plans and the technology to handle the waste.

“Nobody planned on this, nobody had a plan to get rid of them, nobody planned for closure,” said Dwight Clark, whose company, Solar E Waste Solutions, recycles solar panels. “Nobody thought this through.”

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“They’ve been either silent, or incoherent – or just hand-wave that we should recycle all this stuff without telling us how,” said Mark Mills, executive director of the National Center on Energy Analytics. In the headlong effort to make solar and wind seem as inexpensive as possible, they have not included fees that address the eventual cost of disposal, which could leave taxpayers holding the bag.

Some renewable supporters acknowledge Mills’ point. The Alliance for Affordable Energy, which supports government-funded research on recycling panels and turbines, said the “circular economy” Mills referred to has yet to materialize.

“With the existing energy infrastructure, a lot of end-of-life questions have never been addressed,” the Alliance’s executive director, Logan Burke, told RCI. “It may be that those costs have to be embedded in the front-end, but somehow we need to make the market circular. How do we find that market at the end of their useful life?”

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Just how many panels the U.S. will dispose of or retire each year is also unclear. No clearing house keeps track of national figures, according to Meng Tao, an energy engineering professor at Arizona State University and a consultant on renewable waste issues.

The estimates can vary widely. Solar panels generally have a life expectancy of 25 years, but factors like damage and system upgrades make the number of panels coming out of circulation each year impossible to ascertain. In 2021, the National Renewable Energy Laboratory, which did not respond to a request for comment, estimated that between 3,000 and 6,000 panels would be retired annually through 2026.

Critics say even the high end of those numbers seems suspiciously low given the hundreds of millions of panels now in use and tens of millions yet to come.

The problem will not be confined to the U.S. Several European countries are further down the NetZero road than America, and in March, the European Union estimated it “will cumulatively amass 6-13 and 21-35 million tons of (solar) waste by 2040 and 2050, respectively.” The waste coming from wind turbines will be even greater, the EU said, sounding a hopeful note that recycling renewables will become more prominent.



Unfortunately, as I always tell everyone, energy isn't magic that comes from Hogwarts. Just because you're not seeing smoke in the sky where you live doesn't mean it ain't choking up the atmosphere somewhere else...

... or some other time in the future, for that matter.

Think, people. Think.

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Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:24 AM

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Bladed wind turbines are called “bird choppers”.

I do not know why they do not use bladeless wind turbines. Although they may have problems too…but at least they do not kill bald eagles.

https://www.solarcycle.us/ says they recycle 95% of a solar panel. Couldn’t find a fee on their website. Searching the internet says they charge $18 a panel.

Checked https://www.staples.com/stores/recycling and not there yet. Lol!

I think the only thing right now that is cheaper to recycle than make is aluminum cans. And there are places that will pay you to let them take your cans.




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