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Russia says 60 dead, 145 injured in concert hall raid; Islamic State group claims responsibility

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Thursday, March 28, 2024 7:16 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

As I've posted elsewhere, it's doubtful that a movement in Afghanistan, a dirt-poor country governed by the Taliban which is still consolidating its power- would have either the support OR THE MONEY to fund this attack and train and pay the attackers. Clearly this was a "sponsored" event. My original thought was Turkeye as the sponsor. I still wouldn't be surprised if Turkish individuals were involved.

But the official Russian word says Ukrainian nationalists. With all the $$ sloshing around the inner circles in Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised by that either.

IMHO ISIS-K itself acted as a "terror for hire" organization, seeking to boost its street cred and bank account by being involved and claiming responsibility, but not the main instigators, having neither the reach nor the $$.

It was four guys carrying in their ammo and explosives who killed those Russian concert goers. If they had the fanciest weapons that they could carry, it would be four times $10,000 each for a total of $40,000. This was NOT EXPENSIVE, Signym. Anybody but you and man-child 6ixStringJack who lives on less than $10,000 per year could have paid for this attack. Anybody. No nation was needed to pay for the trivial cost of this.

What really happened was that Putin paid these four guys. Here is why Putin would want to kill Russians:

Russian officials are tying the US and the West to a broader set of “terrorist” attacks against Russia following the Crocus City Hall attack, likely to intensify rhetoric about alleged Western and Ukrainian threats to generate greater domestic support for the war in Ukraine.

The Russian Investigative Committee and Prosecutor General’s Office stated on March 27 that they will consider an appeal from the Russian State Duma to investigate American and Western financing and organization of terrorist attacks against Russia.[7] The Russian Investigative Committee, Prosecutor General’s Office, and the Duma Deputies that made the appeal did not explicitly reference the Crocus City Hall attack.[8] Kremlin officials have previously tied Ukraine and the West to the Crocus City Hall attack but have yet to make a formal accusation, and the Kremlin may refrain from issuing an official accusation as all available evidence continues to show that the Islamic State (IS) is very likely responsible for the attack.[9] Russian officials routinely describe Ukrainian military strikes against legitimate military targets in occupied Ukraine and Russia as terrorism and consistently claim that Western actors help organize these strikes.[10] The Kremlin likely aims to seize on wider Russian social fears and anger following the Crocus City Hall attack by portraying Ukraine, the US, and the West as immediate terrorist threats. The Kremlin likely hopes that perceptions of Ukrainian and Western involvement in the Crocus City Hall attack will increase domestic support for the war in Ukraine, and Russian officials will likely invoke a broader view of what they consider terrorism to further cast Ukrainians as terrorists and the West as a sponsor of terrorism.[11] The Kremlin may still formally accuse Ukraine of conducting the Crocus City Hall attack if it believes that these other informational efforts are insufficient to generate the domestic response it likely desires.[12]

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-march-27-2024


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Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:37 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


It wasn't four guys, it was six, since two were killed. Or maybe seven, since there were early reports that one was knocked unconscious by a patron.

Weapons and incendiary devices were cached ahead of time. Some of them were trained in a training center in Turkeye, where 11 additional people were rounded up. And some went to Afghanistan. The whole operation ... including the training center in Turkeye... is NOT an operation by isolated jihadist nutjobs from dirt-poor Afghanistan. They were recruited -for money- from one country and sent to two others before trying to escape thru a war zone to Ukraine.

Definitely NOT religious fanaticism.

Do try to keep up.



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Thursday, March 28, 2024 8:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It wasn't four guys, it was six, since two were killed. Or maybe seven, since there were early reports that one was knocked unconscious by a patron.

Weapons and incendiary devices were cached ahead of time. Some of them were trained in a training center in Turkeye, where 11 additional people were rounded up. And some went to Afghanistan. The whole operation ... including the training center in Turkeye... is NOT an operation by isolated jihadist nutjobs from dirt-poor Afghanistan. They were recruited -for money- from one country and sent to two others before trying to escape thru a war zone to Ukraine.

Definitely NOT religious fanaticism.

Do try to keep up.

Signym, a cache of explosives stored by Putin for his hired assassins, who were duped into the plot, not knowing who was paying them. It is a very cheap and convenient way for Putin to convince Russian civilians they will be killed by NATO and, therefore, Russians will support Putin. Signym, see if you can demonstrate that Putin cannot gain political support by killing Russians. Putin has already killed hundreds of thousands of Russians. What matters if he kills a few more? It's enormously valuable for him and doesn't cost much so long as the assassins are not traced back to Putin for him to kill more Russians if that solidifies his support to continue a war on Ukraine lasting many more years.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Thursday, March 28, 2024 9:02 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Whatever.

Keep spinning fantasies.
Not my job to bring you to reality.


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Thursday, March 28, 2024 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whatever.

Keep spinning fantasies.
Not my job to bring you to reality.

Putin's job is to convince Russians that a war on Ukraine benefits Russians. Putin convinced Russians that Ukraine murdered them at a concert hall. Putin did his job well. Russians are convinced. They will support Putin's war on Ukraine. But when their enthusiasm for war wanes, Putin will kill some more Russians and blame Ukraine, which will re-energize his nation to continue the war.

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Friday, March 29, 2024 12:45 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whatever.
Keep spinning fantasies.
Not my job to bring you to reality.

Putin's job is to convince Russians...



All Putin needs to do to convince Russians that the USA wants to destroy Russia thru Ukraine is by republishing stuff that you post here.



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Friday, March 29, 2024 6:18 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Whatever.
Keep spinning fantasies.
Not my job to bring you to reality.

Putin's job is to convince Russians...



All Putin needs to do to convince Russians that the USA wants to destroy Russia thru Ukraine is by republishing stuff that you post here.

Putin gains Russian public support by killing Russian concertgoers and Ukraine loses when Putin gains. That's why Ukraine will not destroy Russian maternity hospitals but Putin would.

Putin intends to falsely direct blame for the Crocus City Hall attack onto Ukraine and the West to generate domestic support for the war in Ukraine, but continued Russian ultranationalist attempts to blame migrants and radical Islamists for the attack highlight the reality that the attack was a notable Russian intelligence and law enforcement failure.

https://isw.pub/UkrWar032524

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Friday, March 29, 2024 12:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Re-broadcasting Kiev propaganda I see.
Now THAT'S desperation!
Even the CIA can't get behind THAT whopper!



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Monday, April 1, 2024 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Re-broadcasting Kiev propaganda I see.
Now THAT'S desperation!
Even the CIA can't get behind THAT whopper!

The Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) is intensifying efforts to implicate Ukraine in the March 22 Crocus City Hall terrorist attack while denying any Islamic State (IS) responsibility or involvement in the attack.

The SVR claimed on April 1 that the United States is attempting to cover up Ukraine’s alleged responsibility for the Crocus City Hall attack, including by blaming the attack on the Islamic State’s Afghan branch IS-Khorasan (IS-K).[7] The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) recently demanded that Ukrainian authorities arrest and extradite people allegedly involved in the Crocus City Hall attack and a wider set of alleged “terrorist” attacks in Russia.[8] ISW continues to assess with high confidence that IS conducted the Crocus City Hall attack and has yet to observe independent reporting or evidence to suggest that an actor other than IS was responsible for or aided the attack.[9] The Kremlin likely intends to capitalize on domestic fear and anger about the attack and hopes that perceptions of Ukrainian and Western involvement in the Crocus City Hall attack and wider alleged “terrorist” attacks in Russia will increase Russian domestic support for the war in Ukraine.[10]

Reuters reported on April 1 that Iran warned Russia about a possible “major terrorist operation” at an unspecified date prior to the Crocus City Hall attack, according to “three sources familiar with the matter.”[11] Kremlin Spokesperson Dmitry Peskov and Russian Presidential Representative for Afghanistan Zamir Kabulov denied the report that Iran warned Russia of a terrorist attack.[12] The Russian government will likely continue to deny any reports that the Kremlin received a warning of a potential terrorist attack before the Crocus City Hall attack to deflect blame from Russia’s law enforcement and intelligence failure and divert accusations towards Ukraine.

The Russian MFA announced on April 1 that it is working to remove the Taliban’s status as a designated terrorist organization in Russia and announced that Russia invited the Taliban to participate in the May 14-19 Russia-Islamic World Forum in Kazan, Tatarstan Republic.[13] The Kremlin’s hyper-fixation on pinning the blame for the attack on Ukraine, as opposed to addressing very real and necessary terrorist threats, will likely continue to pose a security threat to Russia in the long term.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campai
gn-assessment-april-1-2024


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Sunday, June 16, 2024 8:13 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


'ISIS inmates' break out of Russia jail and kidnap two prison officers
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/isis-inmates-break-out-russia
-33041061


they wear ISIS rags on their head...Russian forces kill ISIS-linked hostage takers at detention centre
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/prisoners-take-two-employees-host
age-russias-detention-centre-2024-06-16
/

Russian riot police storm jail and kill six 'ISIS terrorists' who took two prison officers hostage then demanded guns
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13535351/Russian-riot-police-
storm-jail-kill-six-ISIS-terrorists-took-two-prison-officers-hostage-demanded-guns-getaway-car.html

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Tuesday, June 25, 2024 7:38 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Wednesday, June 26, 2024 6:27 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russia played roles in the fall of Islamic State, it took part in the Allied attacks against ISIS so perhaps some islamist jihadi survivors have hooked up with Russia locals and are looking for revenge.


Deadly Firefight in Dagestan: Police and Terrorists Clash, 20 Dead
https://www.oneindia.com/videos/intense-firefight-in-dagestan-between-
police-and-terrorists-4158172.html


Russian region of Dagestan holds day of mourning after attacks kill 20 people
https://japantoday.com/category/world/russian-region-of-dagestan-holds
-a-day-of-mourning-after-attacks-kill-19-people

following a rampage by Islamic militants who authorities say killed 20 people

Putin Ally’s Kids Suspected in Synagogue Shooting Massacre
https://www.thedailybeast.com/putin-party-members-kids-suspected-in-da
gestan-terror-attack

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Saturday, July 20, 2024 7:11 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


PM Modi, President Putin condemn terrorist attacks in Kathua, Dagestan, Moscow

https://www.aninews.in/news/world/asia/pm-modi-president-putin-condemn
-terrorist-attacks-in-kathua-dagestan-moscow20240709233622
/

in the West or Europe?

Germany: Another Fake Attack Claimed By Muslims

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/07/germany-another-fake-attack-claimed
-by-muslims


a changed Swedish culture

Sweden investigates foiled Israel embassy attack as 'terrorist crime'
https://www.thelocal.se/20240202/sweden-investigates-foiled-israel-emb
assy-attack-as-terrorist-crime


Coming to the USA soon?

Iran-backed Houthis in Yemen carry out deadly drone strike on Tel Aviv near U.S. Embassy
https://barenakedislam.com/2024/07/19/iran-backed-houthis-in-yemen-car
ry-out-deadly-drone-strike-on-tel-aviv-near-u-s-embassy
/

“There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humour in Islam. There is no fun in Islam.” — Ayatollah Khomeini
https://vladtepesblog.com/2024/07/19/there-are-no-jokes-in-islam-there
-is-no-humour-in-islam-there-is-no-fun-in-islam-ayatollah-khomeini
/

UK: Muslims screaming ‘Allahu akbar’ riot in Leeds over Roma family custody dispute, torch bus, attack police car, cops retreat

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/07/uk-muslims-screaming-allahu-akbar-r
iot-in-leeds-over-roma-family-custody-dispute-torch-bus-attack-police-car-cops-retreat



and in Russian leadership they jail the artists, a film maker, the theater person, the musician, the news reporter, the tv movie actor rather than going after the expanding islamists and jihadis which expand across Russia?

Who are some of the Americans behind bars in Russia, and what are the prospects for their release?

https://www.wral.com/story/who-are-some-of-the-americans-behind-bars-i
n-russia-and-what-are-the-prospects-for-their-release/21533557
/

Jailing of theatre duo sends shockwaves through Russia's artistic community

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jailing-theatre-duo-sends-shockwaves-1539441
56.html


Russian Court Jails Theatre Figures Over IS Wives Play

https://www.peacefmonline.com/pages/foreign/news/202407/505872.php

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Monday, July 22, 2024 6:22 AM

JAYNEZTOWN

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Thursday, July 25, 2024 1:18 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a religion site quoting again

The worrisome return of Islamist terrorism in Dagestan

https://international.la-croix.com/world/the-worrisome-return-of-islam
ist-terrorism-in-dagestan


this time quote

Quote:

In the late 2010s, jihadist groups carried out near-weekly operations against law enforcement in the republic of over 3 million people, 85% of whom are primarily Sufi-inspired Muslims. Police crackdowns, combined with the departure of thousands of jihadists to Islamic State's ephemeral caliphate in Syria and Iraq, had brought calm, though occasional violence was still reported. In October 2023, a crowd of men stormed Dagestan airport as a plane from Israel was due to land, chanting anti-Zionist slogans.

While the Kremlin dismisses any notion of a possible return of an Islamist insurgency in the country, this series of attacks comes just three months after a jihadist attack claimed by the Islamic State at Crocus City Hall, a concert hall in the suburbs of Moscow, which left over 140 dead.




and


Chechnya bans music that is too slow or too fast

https://breakingnewsenglish.com/2404/240411-music-tempo-100-2.html



So did an illiterate pedophile terrorist Moongod only want a man wailing out of tune noises from a Mosque and a war drum with a beat 115 bpm

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Wednesday, August 7, 2024 7:35 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Russian security thwarts a terrorist plot in Dagestan
https://www.bignewsnetwork.com/news/274471943/russian-security-thwarts
-a-terrorist-plot-in-dagestan


Panicked Vladimir Putin facing religious bloodbath as FSB runs amok in North Caucasus
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1915563/putin-dagestan-church-att
acks-russia

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Saturday, August 24, 2024 11:31 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


ISIS prisoners killed after slashing guards, seizing hostages in Russian jail

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/islamist-prisoners-slash-guards-sei
ze-hostages-russian-jail-rcna167923

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Monday, August 26, 2024 8:53 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


the schizo open border Britbongistanis

UK: Sky News worries that jihad massacre at German ‘Festival of Diversity’ could empower ‘far right’

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2024/08/uk-sky-news-worries-that-jihad-mass
acre-at-german-festival-of-diversity-could-empower-far-right

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Sunday, September 8, 2024 1:12 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


a terror group still looking for attention

Man arrested for ISIS-inspired terror plot to target Jewish people in New York City
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/man-arrested-isis-inspired-terror-000211844.
html


and jihadi islamics have made Bangladesh into a shithole

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