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Friday, August 19, 2022 9:09 AM
6IXSTRINGJACK
Quote:Originally posted by second: Inflation Reduction Act Adds First-time Charge for Methane Emissions for the Oil and Gas Sector It imposes a fee of $900 per metric ton of methane emissions starting in 2024, rising to $1,500 by 2026. https://www.omm.com/resources/alerts-and-publications/alerts/inflation-reduction-act-adds-first-time-charge-for-methane-emissions-for-the-oil-and-gas-sector/ Firms will also receive tax credits worth $85 per tonne for carbon capture and storage. https://www.verdantix.com/insights/blogs/the-inflation-reduction-act-paves-new-ground-for-us-climate-change-action The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, August 19, 2022 10:06 AM
SECOND
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The IRS Booster Act does not give a tax credit for a single coal burning car that is made in the world right now because of the requirement that 50% of the materials for the battery need to be from North America, and none of them are.
Friday, August 19, 2022 9:55 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The IRS Booster Act does not give a tax credit for a single coal burning car that is made in the world right now because of the requirement that 50% of the materials for the battery need to be from North America, and none of them are.6ix: The Inflation Reduction Act Will Soon Make it Cheaper to Buy EVs—If They Have North American Batteries
Saturday, August 20, 2022 7:57 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Coal Burning Cars are not the future. At least not for another 20 or 30 years. And that's only if TPTB start building the infrastructure today. And that infrastructure is going to have to include a LOT of nuclear power plants. Because the solar and wind power isn't even helping the grids from browning out as it stands already. Renewable energy is a hobby.
Saturday, August 20, 2022 8:58 AM
Saturday, August 20, 2022 10:01 AM
Saturday, August 20, 2022 11:30 AM
Sunday, August 21, 2022 3:51 PM
SIGNYM
I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.
Quote: Hitler's Scuttled Black Sea Fleet, Centuries-Old 'Hunger Stones' Emerge From Dry Riverbeds In Drought-Stricken Europe Sunday, Aug 21, 2022 - 11:35 AM Extreme droughts across Europe are revealing thousands of years of lost history. In some regions, centuries-old warning messages etched into boulders have been exposed. As StrangeSounds.org reports, these rocks - known as "Hungersteine" or "Hunger Stones" One stone, embedded in the Elbe River, which runs from the mountains of Czechia through Germany to the North Sea, dates back to a drought in 1616, is once again visible in the dry riverbed. The warning reads, "Wenn du mich seehst, dann weine" – "If you see me, weep." "Hunger stones” like this one were used as “hydrological landmarks” across central Europe, NPR reported when the stones last surfaced during a 2018 drought. In Spain, the Valdecanas reservoir has dried up and revealed a prehistoric stone circle dubbed the "Spanish Stonehenge," officially known as the Dolmen of Guadalperal, which has been covered by water since 1963... Finally, and perhaps most dramatically, a Nazi fleet of 20 World War German warships re-surfaced as the water level in the River Danube in Serbia plunged to extreme lows...
Quote: Multiple sets of remains found in receding Lake Mead. Here’s a timeline of the discoveries.
Quote: Current Conditions at Lake Mead & Lake Mohave Declining water levels due to climate change and 20 years of ongoing drought have reshaped the park’s shorelines. As Lake Mead continues to recede, extending launch ramps becomes more difficult and more expensive due to the topography and projected decline in water levels. Lake Mead National Recreation Area encourages visitors to plan ahead and stay informed by checking current conditions and alerts.
Quote:American farmers are killing their own crops and selling cows because of extreme drought
Thursday, August 25, 2022 9:08 PM
Friday, August 26, 2022 1:24 AM
Friday, August 26, 2022 5:35 AM
Friday, August 26, 2022 5:46 AM
Friday, August 26, 2022 3:04 PM
Friday, August 26, 2022 3:28 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: "The masses" have, for the past 200 years, been led to believe in a new religion, which required them to tolerate the presence of oligarchs. The old religion (doing good on earth for reward in heaven) had to be eliminayed first.
Friday, August 26, 2022 3:36 PM
Quote: Anyway, it's a shame that TPTB latch onto our better impulses and use actual problems to leverage themselves into positions of greater power bc people become cynical about everything and refuse to respond, even when it's a real problem and responding is in their favor. They (we) just need to figure out more legitimate responses.
Friday, August 26, 2022 6:02 PM
Friday, August 26, 2022 8:11 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Anyway, you can bamboozle people and distract with crises ... bread and circuses (crises, entertainment, and propaganda are the circuses) ... as long as the food holds out. But if you corral people into a formal economy and the formal economy collapses and there's no alternate economy for ppl to tap into, them all of the media froth evaporates.
Friday, August 26, 2022 10:12 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Anyway, you can bamboozle people and distract with crises ... bread and circuses (crises, entertainment, and propaganda are the circuses) ... as long as the food holds out. But if you corral people into a formal economy and the formal economy collapses and there's no alternate economy for ppl to tap into, them all of the media froth evaporates.Another week is gone and another gigaton of CO2 has been added to the atmosphere. If people don't stop dumping waste CO2 into the air, they won't have an economy. 1) More studies needed on possibility of human extinction https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62378157 2) Start considering the worst-case ‘mass extinction’ scenarios of climate change, warn scientists in new paper https://web.archive.org/web/20220802204448/https://fortune.com/2022/08/02/worst-case-climate-scenarios-dangerously-underexplored/ 3) Climate Endgame: Exploring catastrophic climate change scenarios https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2108146119 4) Global CO2 emissions rebounded to their highest level in history in 2021 https://www.iea.org/news/global-co2-emissions-rebounded-to-their-highest-level-in-history-in-2021 The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Friday, August 26, 2022 10:32 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Shut up idiot. The climate change debate is dead. Just ask Greta Thunburg... That is if you can find her. She's hiding in her gated community right now. Europeans are in for a high death toll winter because of you assholes and she was your face.
Friday, August 26, 2022 10:42 PM
Friday, August 26, 2022 10:50 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: The Biden* Admin just set climate change measures back 50 years.
Saturday, August 27, 2022 1:47 AM
Saturday, August 27, 2022 5:19 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There is a way to get it done. It ain't whatever the hell Joe* and the Democrats are doing right now. Fucking Hummers are going to make a comeback with the backlash to the Biden* years.
Saturday, August 27, 2022 9:15 AM
Saturday, August 27, 2022 11:50 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Whatever.
Saturday, August 27, 2022 12:05 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There is a way to get it done. It ain't whatever the hell Joe* and the Democrats are doing right now. Fucking Hummers are going to make a comeback with the backlash to the Biden* years. SECOND: There is no future where a majority of Republican Congressmen from Texas ...
Saturday, August 27, 2022 12:36 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There is a way to get it done. It ain't whatever the hell Joe* and the Democrats are doing right now. Fucking Hummers are going to make a comeback with the backlash to the Biden* years. SECOND: There is no future where a majority of Republican Congressmen from Texas ... You need to get out of Texas once in a while. You post as if Texas was the only thing that exists on the globe. Oh, that, and Russia. RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! The world only has Putin and Texas Republicans in it. Ukraine pops into existance once in a whle, too, but winks out again.
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 7:26 AM
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 8:41 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: There is a way to get it done. It ain't whatever the hell Joe* and the Democrats are doing right now. Fucking Hummers are going to make a comeback with the backlash to the Biden* years. SECOND: There is no future where a majority of Republican Congressmen from Texas ... You need to get out of Texas once in a while. You post as if Texas was the only thing that exists on the globe. Oh, that, and Russia. RUSSIA!RUSSIA!RUSSIA! The world only has Putin and Texas Republicans in it. Ukraine pops into existance once in a whle, too, but winks out again.I have met my Congressmen.
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 8:43 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: The flooding in Pakistan is a climate catastrophe with political roots Flash floods over the weekend left one-third of Pakistan submerged from weeks of heavy rains. The catastrophic flooding has affected 33 million people, about 15 percent of the population, according to Pakistan’s National Disaster Management Authority. More than 1,130 people have been killed since June’s monsoon season began. “There was a super flood in 2010, but this is the worst ever in the history of Pakistan,” said Shabnam Baloch, the country director for Pakistan at the International Rescue Committee. This calamity alone would have been disastrous. But Pakistan this year has also endured economic difficulties and a lethal heat wave that, as Vox’s Umair Irfan reported, strained public infrastructure and social services. “Pakistan contributes less than 1 percent of the world’s greenhouse gas emissions,” Farah Naureen, Mercy Corps’ country director for Pakistan, said in a statement. “This humanitarian catastrophe is yet another example of how countries that contribute the least to global warming are the ones that suffer the most.” https://www.vox.com/world/2022/8/30/23327725/pakistan-flooding-unprecedented-political-economic-humanitarian-crisis It’s likely that climate change contributed to the scale of the catastrophe in Pakistan. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/aug/29/monster-monsoon-why-the-floods-in-pakistan-are-so-devastating The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 3:05 PM
Quote: Hundreds protest over lack of water in Iran's drought-hit west In the past few months, thousands of people angry over the drying up of rivers have been driven to protest, particularly in central and south-western Iran.
Quote: This 2-year-old is unable to walk. He's one of 6 million on the brink of starvation
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:09 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought? Why not North Africa? When I have more time, I'll explain why.
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:49 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: So, why not provide money to Iran, to combat drought? Why not North Africa? When I have more time, I'll explain why.A better idea! Why not provide money to U.S. industry to remove CO2 from the air? That way the money stays in the U.S.A.! Indirectly, Iran and North Africa will benefit from better climate without any money being directly allocated to either. It just so happens that it already happened! U.S. Congress Passes Historic Clean Energy and Climate Investments Bill will provide the most ambitious funding ever for tackling climate change. August 11, 2022 https://www.nature.org/en-us/newsroom/us-house-passes-landmark-climate-bill/ No Republican Congressmen voted for this bill. I'm pretty sure no Republican Congressmen would vote to "provide money to Iran, to combat drought" as Signym phrased it. The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 8:02 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: HUGE lie in that post. We'll revisit this in 2030 so I can laugh even harder at you than I normally do.
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:23 PM
Tuesday, August 30, 2022 9:37 PM
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 6:21 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: The reason why Pakistan and not other nations is bc Pakistan managed to oust it's highly popular, independent-minded, uncorrupted Prime Minister Imran Khan, and replace him with a USA bootlicker who will let USA operate drones from Pakistan and do anything the "we" want re: Russia. The current admin is gasping for support, and the USA wants to funnel $ that way to prop up that admin (and probably pay off a few key people). Has NOTHING to do with drought... or floods... or climate change. It's just blatant political payoff. Kind of like the latest legislation.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:15 AM
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 10:40 AM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Pakistan.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 12:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: The reason why Pakistan and not other nations is bc Pakistan managed to oust it's highly popular, independent-minded, uncorrupted Prime Minister Imran Khan, and replace him with a USA bootlicker who will let USA operate drones from Pakistan and do anything the "we" want re: Russia. The current admin is gasping for support, and the USA wants to funnel $ that way to prop up that admin (and probably pay off a few key people). Has NOTHING to do with drought... or floods... or climate change. It's just blatant political payoff. Kind of like the latest legislation.Signym, all of your Pakistani political chit-chat is irrelevant to DC. I'm pretty sure the only fact about Pakistan that makes it interesting in DC is 165 nuclear warheads.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 12:54 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Jeezus, you're stupid. If the USA elite were REALLY worried about enemy - or even frenemy- nuclear warheads, we would be hemorrhaging money into Russia, China, N Korea, India and maybe even Iran (we;re already hemorrhaging money into Israel), and signing (and abiding with) every nuclear control treaty we could manage to wrangle out of every one of them.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 1:40 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SIGNYM: Jeezus, you're stupid. If the USA elite were REALLY worried about enemy - or even frenemy- nuclear warheads, we would be hemorrhaging money into Russia, China, N Korea, India and maybe even Iran (we;re already hemorrhaging money into Israel), and signing (and abiding with) every nuclear control treaty we could manage to wrangle out of every one of them.For one example, your notion of "hemorrhaging money into . . . N Korea" is false. The GOP refused to buy fuel oil for North Korea, so North Korea refused to shut down the reactors that make both electricity and plutonium for bombs: Bill Clinton Once Struck a Nuclear Deal With North Korea It was forged against all odds—but couldn’t survive the heat of Republican disapproval. Bill Clinton’s agreement said that North Korea would shut down its main nuclear reactor in Yongbyon, abandon two others, and seal fuel that could potentially be used to create a nuclear weapon. In exchange, the U.S. would provide oil to make up for the fuel lost from the dismantled plants and would build two new “light fuel” plants from which it would be harder to extract nuclear materials. If North Korea did try to get fuel out of the new plants, it would be easy for nuclear watchdogs to identify—and hard to hide. In addition, the agreement promised that the U.S. would lift economic sanctions and its diplomatic freeze on North Korea and agree that it would not use nuclear weapons of its own on North Korea. Then Republicans got control of Congress and made it clear that they would not agree to actually fund the implementation of the project or sanction formal peace agreements between the two countries. https://www.history.com/news/north-korea-nuclear-deal-bill-clinton-agreed-framework What happening since then in North Korea? It built A-bombs, H-bombs, ICBMs and, next: May 13, 2022 - North Korea appears to have resumed construction at a long-dormant nuclear reactor in recent weeks that, if completed, would dramatically increase its capacity to produce plutonium for nuclear weapons. https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/13/politics/north-korea-restarts-construction-nuclear-reactor-satellite-images/index.html To tie this all to Climate Change: In 1994 the GOP would not pay for fuel oil and the result was North Korea built H-bombs and ICBMs. In 2022 the GOP could have voted for paying to stop climate change, but did not. The results from climate change might be far worse than H-bombs on ICBMs launched from N Korea and landing on Guam, a U.S. island territory in Micronesia, in the Western Pacific. . . . The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Yep! By claiming that we're REALLY paying Pakistan bc of nuclear weapons you torpedoed your own argument that we're paying Pakistan bc we're concerned about climate change. . So to distract from your own stupid logical error you're dragging a smelly dead red herring of N Korea across the thread? Heh heh Anyone with two neurons to rub together will realize that you obliterate your own cause (whatever that is) with self-contradictory posts. What IS your cause, anyway? Aside from despising anyone who isn't as perfect as you claim?
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:19 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Yep! By claiming that we're REALLY paying Pakistan bc of nuclear weapons you torpedoed your own argument that we're paying Pakistan bc we're concerned about climate change. . So to distract from your own stupid logical error you're dragging a smelly dead red herring of N Korea across the thread? Heh heh Anyone with two neurons to rub together will realize that you obliterate your own cause (whatever that is) with self-contradictory posts. What IS your cause, anyway? Aside from despising anyone who isn't as perfect as you claim?I did NOT claim the USA is paying Pakistan because of nuclear weapons or climate change.
Quote: "Over the past decade, the United States, through USAID, has given Pakistan nearly $7.7 billion of funding." - https://www.usaid.gov/pakistan/history USAID does not explain why Congress allocated money to Pakistan, probably because USAID doesn't know. Neither do I. What Congress's goals over the last 10 years are, I don't know, but
Quote: it could NOT be to stop Pakistan from building the Bomb because Pakistan began development of nuclear weapons in January 1972 under Prime Minister Zulfikar Ali Bhutto.
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 3:45 PM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Make up your mind, willya?
Wednesday, August 31, 2022 4:57 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Make up your mind, willya?
Thursday, September 1, 2022 8:26 AM
Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by SignyM: Make up your mind, willya? Do I have to have an opinion? No. But...
Thursday, September 1, 2022 9:39 AM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Pakistan.The USA dumped every year about 5 billion metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere since you were born, 6ix. It is the USA that is fucking Pakistan by dumping its waste into Pakistan's air. But the Republicans in Congress want to continue the free dumping of CO2 forever and never pay for removal from the atmosphere. The total CO2, measured in hundreds of billions of metric tonnes, is flooding Pakistan.
Thursday, September 1, 2022 2:01 PM
Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Pakistan.The USA dumped every year about 5 billion metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere since you were born, 6ix. It is the USA that is fucking Pakistan by dumping its waste into Pakistan's air. But the Republicans in Congress want to continue the free dumping of CO2 forever and never pay for removal from the atmosphere. The total CO2, measured in hundreds of billions of metric tonnes, is flooding Pakistan. China's closer. So is India. China and India make our CO2 emissions look like a single cow fart by comparison. Your understanding of how all the shit you buy that you don't need and the impact it has on the environment is as simple minded and incorrect as your understanding about how bad your coal burning cars are for the environment. That's because you're not sitting in a constant cloud of smog where things are actually made and you believe that electricity is magic. Get fucked worm.
Thursday, September 1, 2022 5:03 PM
Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Quote:Originally posted by second: Quote:Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK: Fuck Pakistan.The USA dumped every year about 5 billion metric tonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere since you were born, 6ix. It is the USA that is fucking Pakistan by dumping its waste into Pakistan's air. But the Republicans in Congress want to continue the free dumping of CO2 forever and never pay for removal from the atmosphere. The total CO2, measured in hundreds of billions of metric tonnes, is flooding Pakistan. China's closer. So is India. China and India make our CO2 emissions look like a single cow fart by comparison. Your understanding of how all the shit you buy that you don't need and the impact it has on the environment is as simple minded and incorrect as your understanding about how bad your coal burning cars are for the environment. That's because you're not sitting in a constant cloud of smog where things are actually made and you believe that electricity is magic. Get fucked worm.
Quote:The research by Rhodium Group says China emitted 27% of the world's greenhouse gases in 2019. The US was the second-largest emitter at 11% while India was third with 6.6% of emissions, the think tank said.
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