And in real world news... Iran halts oil exports to France, Britain. by AURaptor

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And in real world news... Iran halts oil exports to France, Britain.

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:01 AM

... fully loaded, safety off...

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Originally posted by SignyM:
I'm surprised it took 3/4 of a thread to get to Israel, because Israel is driving this mess. The US intelligence assessment is that Iran tabled its nuclear weapons program in 2003 and hasn't restarted it.

Israel was brought up in a previous thread on this subject, like how they'll be the one to get us into trouble if we're not careful.

The IAEA doesn't share the same thoughts as the US intelligence assessment:

http://www.npr.org/2011/11/15/142340316/foreign-policy-the-iaeas-most-
alarming-findings

Post-2003 development: The report indicates that Iran doesn't appear to have fully halted its weapons research and technology development in 2003, as U.S. intelligence officials once believed. "Prior to the end of 2003, these [nuclear weapon-related] activities took place under a structured programme," the report says, and "some activities may still be ongoing." Since 2002, the agency adds, the IAEA has "become increasingly concerned" about activities in Iran "related to the development of a nuclear payload for a missile."

Do they have an Israeli connection?

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Originally posted by SignyM:

The heavy-duty sanctions are all about appeasing Israel. Too bad the Israelis don't have nuclear weapons.

Oh, wait- they do. And we gave them away as gifts.
Israel has become internally like a paranoid fascist state... a theocracy just as intolerant as Afghanistan, but militarized to the teeth. The present members of the Israeli army are going to their Rabbis for advice on which orders are "illegal" (ie conflict with militant Judaism). So soldiers are now deciding that it is "illegal" to remove Jewish settlers who have illegally taken over Palestinian farms, stores and houses!

It's a nightmare. The Jewish state of Israel has completely gone off the rails. If I were Iran, I'd want nukes.

Iran's wanting nukes seems to be triggering this response from Israel - it ramps up the tension.
If I was betting on this I'd say Israel is the odds on favorite for causing the biggest incident and making things the worst for everyone. I also wouldn't bet on either of one of these 2 to take the high road - that's what keeps me worried.

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:16 AM

ANTHONYT

Freedom is Important because People are Important

Hello,

I remember a movie I saw once about the end of the world- some bible-thumping thing I can't remember the name of. It predicted that World War III would be fought in the middle east in defense of Israel.

Taking away the Bible rhetoric and redefining Israel from being a blameless innocent, the rest may be correct.

Given the level of calm thinking involved with the major players, one could almost feel a warm nostalgia for the predictable responses that existed during the Cold War.

Almost.

--Anthony

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Thursday, February 23, 2012 2:15 PM

KWICKO

"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, Reagan's presidential campaign manager & CIA Director (from first staff meeting in 1981)

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Originally posted by Geezer:
Seems like, whichever official or semi-official source threatened to keep IAEA inspectors from visiting Iran's nuclear sites, the threat has come true.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17122738

Looks like someone is rolling out North Korea's patented "We have nothing to hide, but we're not going to let you see it anyway" routine. Hope the new Kim is getting royalties.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

I wonder how often we let them inspect all of our facilities, Area 51 included. Maybe we should be paying Kim some royalties as well. ;)

"Although it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people, it is true that most stupid people are conservatives." - John Stuart Mill

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