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What is Putin's end game?

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 2:22 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Just like your free birds, he didn't actually have to do anything.

CNN and the rest of the propaganda machine did all the work.



Are you like SIGS and think there aren't any Russian troops fighting in Ukraine?



I don't speak for Sigs.

I'm not there on the ground. I also know that shit like this gets staged all the time.

When both CNN and FOX News are on the same page about anything, it should be a red flag for you.

But do continue to just buy whatever shit they shovel you and never question anything.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 2:36 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 3:09 PM

THG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Oh, BTW, you can hardly call Russia's attack on Ukraine "unprovoked".

The west has been attacking Russia one way or another for decades. NATOs steady progression to Russias border,

Placement of missile bases in Poland and Romania

Successful coup in Ukraine and its increasing militarization (including placement of bioweapons labs in Ukraine and Georgia),

Attempted coup in Belarus and Kazakhstan...

Plus the west's history/example of rampaging thru the world, destroying nations as the went...

Could all be considered threats to Russia, one way or another.

What does Russia want in Ukraine?

Neutralization and de-Nazification. They don't want to expand their borders, they just want a buffer zone of neutral nations.




Ukraine Mounts Counteroffensive to Drive Russians Back From Kyiv, Key Cities

KYIV, Ukraine—Ukraine said its military had launched a counteroffensive in its capital, Kyiv, and other key cities, as President Volodymyr Zelensky urged the U.S. Congress to provide more weapons and increase economic pressure on Russia.

The thump of distant shelling echoed through the center of Kyiv overnight, while Ukrainian forces appeared to counterattack in the outlying towns of Irpin, Bucha and Hostomel, which have been severely damaged in weeks of street fighting and artillery exchanges. The city and the surrounding region were under an all-day curfew Wednesday.

Ukrainian forces also said they pressed an offensive south and east of the southern port of Mykolayiv, moving in the direction of Kherson, the only Ukrainian regional capital occupied by Russia since the war began Feb. 24. Ukraine said it carried out an airstrike on the Kherson airport, which is now a Russian air base, and satellite imagery of the tarmac showed seven destroyed or damaged Russian helicopters, some of them engulfed in flames. Kyiv also said it shot down two Russian Su-30SM jets over the Black Sea off Odessa.

Moscow has largely not commented on combat losses and said its campaign was progressing.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-mounts-counteroffensive-t
o-drive-russians-back-from-kyiv-key-cities/ar-AAV83ZO?ocid=msedgntp




You're a sick bitch Signym. Biggest news to date, Russia is getting its ass kicked big time. And hey, I told you so.

T



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 3:15 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Ted is never more exited than he gets when people are dying.

He lives for this. He begs for it.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 3:19 PM

THG


T

Jacks role here can be summed up as comic relief. Court jester, hey look at me please look at me...





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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 3:44 PM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

... stay crunchy...


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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I don't speak for Sigs.



I didn't ask you to.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I'm not there on the ground. I also know that shit like this gets staged all the time.



"shit like this gets staged..." Shit like Ukrainian cities getting bombed? It's easy to verify where this is happening.

"all the time?" for instance?

So if something happens anywhere in the world but you aren't there to see it firsthand, you don't believe it? That's what disinformation is trying to do - you just confirmed Putin's strategy works.

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
When both CNN and FOX News are on the same page about anything, it should be a red flag for you.



Agree - it's freaking' weird. But, for me, it's not a red flag of "it didn't happen." It's more of "how will each one spin it?"

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
But do continue to just buy whatever shit they shovel you and never question anything.



I don't buy what either one shovels, especially Fux. There are many more options to verify what's happening - even your fav Youtube.

Stop being so fcking simple. You really are smarter than that.

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 5:34 PM

JAYNEZTOWN


urban warfare?

https://johnspenceronline.com/urban-warfare

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:


Huzzah! Legacy: Check!



Is Ukraine forever done, it seems likie its already split with no read food, money, political or property left to someone who lived in this region the past years. A nation split and Urban Warfare begun?

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 6:39 PM

THG


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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
urban warfare?

https://johnspenceronline.com/urban-warfare

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Originally posted by CAPTAINCRUNCH:


Huzzah! Legacy: Check!



Is Ukraine forever done, it seems likie its already split with no read food, money, political or property left to someone who lived in this region the past years. A nation split and Urban Warfare begun?





The answers to your speculations are all over the news and internet. Including in these threads. If you do not know who's information is honest then don't bother. You do not stand a chance in understanding this crisis, or anything else.

I gatta ask after reading your post; are you stoned?

T



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:02 PM

THG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND: I would like to see proof that Saddam DID NOT have WMD.

In terms of hypothesis-testing, it is impossible to prove a negative.

So stop lying and playing stupid games.

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Signym, why did you guys do this?

T



Russians bombarded the shelter with the sign "CHILDREN" in Mariupol


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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody cares.

Democrats signed their death warrant with this stunt. Couldn't even maintain a minor boost in the polls for two weeks out of this one before Joe*'s ratings started falling again.

We won't even need lockdowns to keep everybody home this summer. Nobody will be able to afford to go anywhere.

Welcome to the world I slowly started easing myself into two decades ago. Have fun navigating that when you're thrust into it.

I could teach you, but I'd have to charge.



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 7:54 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.




Zelensky Addresses U.S. Congress: Is Creating A No-Fly Zone Too Much To Ask For? "I Call On You To Do More"

U.S. Congress to Zelensky: "What are you wearin'?"



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 9:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.

Not that 6ix would understand, but the dry-cleaner is closed. There is not even running water, but satellite phones still work! Zelinskyy is on the equivalent of a deer hunt, except it is Russians he is hunting.

[Jesus Christ descends to earth and addresses all of humanity]
Fatuous 6ixStringJack: "Wow. Sandals? Really?"

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 9:17 PM

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Trump calls Putin a genius.

Biden calls Putin a war criminal.

Any questions?

Nope, seems pretty clear to me.

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2022-03-16/biden-calls-p
utin-a-war-criminal



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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 10:43 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Hey Zelinsky!

Put on a fuckin' suit, dude.

You're a US Planted President for chrissake, not some yuppy on the way to the local gym.

They even got Hunter to put on a suit when he was playing make believe in the Ukraine, and they even managed to get it regularly dry cleaned so he wasn't sitting at the table with bodily fluids and blow stuck to it.

Consider the suit a mandatory purchase out of that $20 billion dollars we're about to give you. Yanno... 1/3rd of the money it would take to end homelessness in America overnight.

You're welcome.

Not that 6ix would understand, but the dry-cleaner is closed.



Still closed for Covid, huh?

Or did the lockdowns put all the dry cleaners out of business in the Ukraine then?

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Wednesday, March 16, 2022 11:26 PM

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Still closed for Covid, huh?

Or did the lockdowns put all the dry cleaners out of business in the Ukraine then?

Putin and Russians closed the dry cleaners. You keep reminding me why your life derailed 14 years ago. Seriously, you're stupid. Don't worry, I never have known a Trump believer (wealthy Trump voters don't believe him) who wasn't stupid and also knew it about themselves. Lack of self-knowledge puts them into an early grave. Does the same to Russians, too:

Why Russian Men Don’t Live as Long. The probability that a Russian man will die before he turns 55 is 25 percent. Russia’s life expectancy is exceptionally low compared with that in other developed countries. While American men have a 1-in-11 chance of dying before their 55th birthday, in Russia the odds are 1 in 4. Here's hoping that many more Russians die in Ukraine. They deserve an early death for stupidity and obeying orders.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220303091215/https://www.nytimes.com/201
4/02/18/science/why-russian-men-dont-live-as-long.html


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Friday, March 18, 2022 6:11 AM

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What is Putin's end game?

Putin now wants the Trump-Era Ukraine “Peace Plan” Central to the Mueller Report

The speed and extent of Moscow’s climbdown is just head-spinning. Three weeks ago it called Ukraine a rightful Russian territory run by genocidal Nazis. Now it’s voluntarily offering the Sweden model — a Western ally in all but name — and getting told 'NO!' by Ukraine.

Paul Manafort lost his job before getting a chance to push Trump to help implement a plan as president much like what Putin is offering in 2022 to Ukraine. Because of the Mueller Report, we know that Kilimnik pressed Manafort about it for months after that meeting, even after Trump took office and Manafort was already under indictment for his work in Ukraine.

The key to the entire plan, which would give a Russian quisling control over a key region and the ability to influence Ukrainian domestic and foreign affairs, was Trump’s endorsement.

Trump obviously never endorsed the plan, but this episode provides insight into what Putin might want from the conflict if he has in fact pulled back from his more outlandish aims ("Ukraine a rightful Russian territory"). The “Mariupol plan” is a record of how Russia might seek to influence Ukraine from within, without annexing further territory. It’s also clear evidence that Mariupol, which offers a port and the potential to create a land bridge to Crimea, is key to even Putin’s most minimal war aims, which is perhaps why it has been such a target for Russia in its Ukraine invasion.

As things stand, Russians still have not gained control of Mariupol, nor most other major Ukrainian cities. But if Putin won’t settle for anything less than something like the “Mariupol plan,” Ukraine could be in for more turmoil, even should Russia officially withdraw its forces and leave Ukraine, on paper, with the borders it had before this war.

More at https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/03/trump-ukraine-peace-plan-m
ueller-report.html


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Friday, March 18, 2022 6:30 AM

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Russia Is Lying About Evidence of Bioweapons Labs in Ukraine, Russian Biologists Say

At considerable risk to their own safety, 10 Russian biologists, including researchers who remain in Russia, have publicly accused the Russian government of lying about having proof that biological weapons were being developed in Ukrainian labs funded by the United States.

According to the biologists, documents presented to the public last week by Russia’s defense ministry as supposed evidence of covert “bioweapons labs” under Pentagon control in Ukraine actually describe relatively harmless collections of pathogens used for public health research. The comprehensive review of the documents by experts who understand both the science and the Cyrillic alphabet took on new importance on Wednesday, as President Vladimir Putin cited the imaginary threat of weapons of mass destruction near Russia’s borders as a justification for the invasion of Ukraine.

Before the recent crackdown on independent media outlets in Russia, these outlandish claims from Russian defense officials — which were amplified on the global stage by Russia’s foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov, and its U.N. ambassador, Vasily Nebenzya — might have been undercut by interviews with Russian biologists who called the underlying evidence for the allegations transparently false. But because dissenting views have been repressed, and independent broadcasters shut down, Russian scientists have been forced to post their findings on social networks that are mainly blocked in Russia.

The first Russian biologist to make his analysis of the evidence widely known was Eugene Lewitin, who holds advanced degrees in biology from Moscow State University and GosNIIgenetika, a biotechnology research institute. The documents from Ukraine, Lewitin wrote in an open letter posted on Facebook and Change.org, do “not imply any development of biological weapons or even the use of particularly dangerous pathogens in the laboratories. The list of destroyed strains published by RIA Novosti and other Russian media outlets contains not a single particularly dangerous strain. The list contains only strains common to microbiological and even more so to epidemiological laboratories.”

More than 800 signatories endorsed Lewitin’s letter when it was transformed into a petition from Russian biologists urging Russian journalists to stop repeating the government’s “false, absolutely groundless and hatred-inciting statements about allegedly found evidence of the development of biological weapons in Ukrainian laboratories.”

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220318101354/https://theintercept.com/20
22/03/17/russia-ukraine-bioweapons-misinformation
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Friday, March 18, 2022 8:22 AM

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The speech that Russian President Vladimir Putin made on Wednesday bore the hallmarks of unapologetic authoritarianism, Russia experts and observers said.

“We are well post-1934,” said Nina Khrushcheva, a professor of international relations at the New School in New York City, referencing the year when Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin began his murderous purge. Putin is an unabashed admirer of Stalin and has worked — successfully, in Russia — to rehabilitate his image, which suffered for years after a posthumous denunciation in 1956 by Khrushcheva’s great-grandfather Nikita Khrushchev, then the Soviet leader.

In his unsettling remarks, Putin lashed out at “national traitors” he blamed for undermining the war he launched against Ukraine.

“Putin really wants to take Russia back to Stalin days,” Olga Lautman, a senior fellow at the Center for European Policy Analysis, wrote on Twitter. “He has always emulated Stalin, and this speech is definitely angrier and stronger than previous speeches.”

Putin said true Russians would “always be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors,” presumably a reference to Russians who have protested his invasion of Ukraine in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

Russia “will simply spit them out like an insect in their mouth, spit them onto the pavement,” Putin said of Russian “fifth columnists” with Western sympathies.

“The whole speech was pure Dr. Strangelove — bodily fluids, purification and what not,” Khrushcheva told Yahoo News, referencing Stanley Kubrick’s classic 1964 satire about nuclear war. “Very Hollywood, only it’s happening to us, not on screen,” she wrote in an email.

Putin clearly sees Russia as the victim, denouncing the “economic blitzkrieg” of Western sanctions in his remarks, a reference to Adolf Hitler’s favored mode of sudden, overwhelming attack. “I want to be as direct as possible: hostile geopolitical designs lie behind the hypocritical talk and recent actions by the so-called collective West,” he said, according to an English-language transcript of his speech provided by the Kremlin. “They have no use — simply no use — for a strong and sovereign Russia, and they will not forgive us for our independent policy or for standing up for our national interests.”

Transcript at https://web.archive.org/web/20220317202524/http://en.kremlin.ru/events
/president/transcripts/67996


Putin has maintained that he needed to invade Ukraine to “de-Nazify” and “demilitarize” the country.

He also played on long-standing Russian feelings of inferiority relative to the West, reminding supposedly disloyal critics of his Ukrainian campaign that they would never be allowed into “the superior caste, the superior race” of Western society. The West, he suggested, sees Russians not as equals but as “expendable raw material” to be exploited.

The speech left Lautman of the Center for European Policy Analysis stunned. “Everyone soon will be fifth columnists as Putin gets more enraged,” she told Yahoo News in a text message. “There will be a purge from his agencies, military, and everyday citizens. It was really such a dark speech.”

More at https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/putin-echoes-stalin-in-very-very-
scary-speech/ar-AAVcuAV


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Friday, March 18, 2022 8:33 AM

JAYNEZTOWN


Putin would be isnane to try take the whole country but who knows how his crazy mind works. On social media it seems Banks and Political buildings and Birdges and Roads in Mariupol are falling to Russia & DPR. The city was largely and traditionally Russian-speaking, there are Ukrainian but there is also a significant ethnic Greek minority in the city, Pontic Greek are an ethnically Greek group who traditionally lived in the region of Pontus, on the shores of the Black Sea, there are also minority of Armenia peoples, Turkic speakers and Belarusian culture, Mariupol is amongst the ten most populous cities in Ukraine.


What loss would Russia take?
In Afghanistan the Russian Soviet forces 14,000 + killed, 18,000 pro-Russian Afghan locals, 9,500 Russian or Soviets killed in combat, 4,000 died from wounds and 1,000 died from disease and accidents, 53,000+ wounded
A loss of 450 + aricraft, almost 150 tanks destroyed, 433 artillery guns lost, 330 + helicopters,
Russian in Syrian war, the Foreign involvement in the Syrian civil war is a complex web, I'm not sure how many Russians lost but some hundreds of Mercs have been killed, Hezbollah had about one thousand killed, most dying seem to be Syrian locals or foreign ISIS fighters.

Ukraine conflict seems to be a totally different war that can not really be fully compared to other conflicts.

However we have clear evidence of on the ground fighting where Ukraine resistance fighters are destroying Russians with Anti-Tank missiles.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 9:05 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Nobody has convinced me Putin's crazy.

If you believe that Putin is crazy, that must be a very scary world you're living in where a madman has his finger on so, so many nukes.


I recommend that you all triple mask, hoard vaccine and testing kits, climb down in that bunker and live the rest of your lives deep under the surface and away from the rest of civilization who is done listening to any of you.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 9:48 AM

THG


Quote:

Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:

Putin would be isnane to try take the whole country but who knows how his crazy mind works. On social media it seems Banks and Political buildings and Birdges and Roads in Mariupol are falling to Russia & DPR. The city was largely and traditionally Russian-speaking, there are Ukrainian but there is also a significant ethnic Greek minority in the city, Pontic Greek are an ethnically Greek group who traditionally lived in the region of Pontus, on the shores of the Black Sea, there are also minority of Armenia peoples, Turkic speakers and Belarusian culture, Mariupol is amongst the ten most populous cities in Ukraine.



Putin leaves major city in ruins as 48 schools destroyed after relentless Russian bombing

FORTY-EIGHT of Kharkiv's schools have been destroyed by Russian attacks, the city's mayor has said in a televised interview today

Ukrainian officials also accused Russian forces today of hitting a psychiatric hospital near the eastern Ukrainian town of Izyum, in the Kharkiv region.

Oleh Synegubov, governor of the region, said 330 people had been at the hospital at the time, some of them confined to wheelchairs or unable to move, and that 73 had been evacuated.

In the port city of Mariupol, authorities say Russia dropped bombs on the city again yesterday, a day after hitting a maternity hospital in a "depraved" offensive.

The attack left three dead, including a six-year-old child, and a further 17 injured, deputy mayor Sergei Orlov said.

Last week, the UK was one of 38 countries to refer Putin to the ICC for potential war crimes.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1579066/Putin-news-Russia-Ukraine
-war-latest-bomb-school-hospital-Kharkiv-updates




JAYNEZTOWN, I looked at the things you've listed the Russians are bombing. Are you kidding? Your post shows you don't have a clue. Either that or you purposefully don't want to talk about the fact that the Russian army is fighting the Ukrainian people, while the Ukrainian army is trying to defend them by fighting the Russian army.

The Russians are going after the old, ill and defenseless women and children because they can’t fight men. The Russians are relentlessly bombing the places where they are trying to hide.

This is what the eyes of the world have been reporting for weeks now. Are you living under a rock?


T



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Friday, March 18, 2022 10:25 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Lies, lies.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 11:13 AM

THG


I couldn't possibly count the number of times I told you Kiki and Signym that Putin was an animal. Despite your hiding Kiki and your sad attempts to say otherwise again Signym, the history of Putin and his invasion of Ukraine has already been written.

As has the history of you comrade Kiki and you comrade Signym as being supporters of all Putin’s atrocities over the years. Your constant denial of the facts and your replacing them with Putin’s lies.


T



"She said she felt bad for Vladimir Putin's mother. She said she must be rolling over in her grave for having giving birth to such a monster."






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Friday, March 18, 2022 2:17 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


This is like the bullshit in the western press about the Russian campaign in Syria: all breathlessly reported by jihadists, "verified" by Bellingcat, and amplified by western press

Until I see this verified by a CREDIBLE third party* it's fake news.

*The International Red Cross, possibly, or the OSCE (which tends to ignore Kiev's shelling of civilians but at least it doesn't make shit up)

Here are some entities I reject, since they have lied repeatedly in the past

Kiev government or military
CIA, State Department, WH, Congress
MI6, Christopher Steele
M$M
HRW, Amesty International, Bellingcat, and other "non" government organizations (which are funded by NED, AID, etc and have a revolving door relationship with their host governments

Even the OPCW, which lied shamefully about Syrian "government gas attacks" when upper-uos rewrote the technical report (which said the "attack" was most likely staged) to say the opposite of what the field investigators found

That's a whole lot of lying institutions out there!


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Friday, March 18, 2022 2:35 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Oh BTW, do you want to know why I know Russia is winning?

It has nothing to do with what Kiev says, or what Russia says, or what the M$M/ alt press says.

Simply this: Why would Zelenskiy do his road show, begging for NATO intervention from Brussels, Germany, the UK, the USA, and anyone else who will listen, if he was "winning"?

Simple observation and logic, sadly missing from many ppl

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Friday, March 18, 2022 3:27 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Oh BTW, do you want to know why I know Russia is winning?



If this is winning they should try losing.

Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
Simply this: Why would Zelenskiy do his road show, begging for NATO intervention from Brussels, Germany, the UK, the USA, and anyone else who will listen, if he was "winning"?



Because Russia - desperate to save face - keeps killing women and children. I know. They’re evil pricks. Simple observation and logic.

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Simple observation and logic, sadly missing from me.



Yup.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 3:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


According to the NYT (ahem!) 7000 Russian troops were killed, 25,000 injured, and the Russian army is 8 days (by now) away from collapsing.

If Kiev is THAT successful, why do they need a NATO no-fly zone? If the Russian army is in such dire straits, the only way they could reverse it is by striking NATO territory or going nuclear. In THAT case, what does a no-fly do?

Why doesn't the Kiev government just keep on keeping in for 8 more days?

One of your ignorant opinions contradicts the other ignorant opinion. But that's what happens to when you lap up swill uncritically?

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Friday, March 18, 2022 4:03 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:

Oh BTW, do you want to know why I know Russia is winning?

It has nothing to do with what Kiev says, or what Russia says, or what the M$M/ alt press says.

Simply this: Why would Zelenskiy do his road show, begging for NATO intervention from Brussels, Germany, the UK, the USA, and anyone else who will listen, if he was "winning"?

Simple observation and logic, sadly missing from many ppl




Ukraine war: Putin seeks foreign volunteers to fight in Ukraine
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60705486

Russia asks China for military assistance
https://www.cbsnews.com/video/russia-asks-china-for-military-assistanc
e/#x


Putin 'asking jihadis and terrorists' to help with his invasion of Ukraine - expert tells GB News
https://www.gbnews.uk/news/putin-asking-jihadis-and-terrorists-to-help
-with-his-invasion-of-ukraine-expert-tells-gb-news/248295


Ukraine war: Putin seeks foreign volunteers to fight in Ukraine
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60705486




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Friday, March 18, 2022 5:52 PM

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I'm glad that Ted has spent years collecting all the lies and documenting the liars here on fff.net.

This site is going to be worth the server's weight in gold one day.



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Friday, March 18, 2022 6:13 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SignyM:
According to the NYT (ahem!) 7000 Russian troops were killed, 25,000 injured, and the Russian army is 8 days (by now) away from collapsing.

If Kiev is THAT successful, why do they need a NATO no-fly zone? If the Russian army is in such dire straits, the only way they could reverse it is by striking NATO territory or going nuclear. In THAT case, what does a no-fly do?

Why doesn't the Kiev government just keep on keeping in for 8 more days?

One of your ignorant opinions contradicts the other ignorant opinion. But that's what happens to when you lap up swill uncritically?

Ukraine wants a no-fly zone because Russian planes are bombing civilians. But if Signym disbelieves civilians are being bombed by Russia then there is no need for no-fly zones. The Russian news media is claiming Ukraine is bombing Ukraine's citizens:

Moscow's misinformation: Russian TV says Ukraine is attacking its own buildings
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/596544-moscows-misinformation-russi
an-tv-says-ukraine-blowing-its-own-buildings-up


Since the assault began, Russia made baseless claims that Ukrainians had indiscriminately bombed hospitals and killed civilians.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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Friday, March 18, 2022 6:27 PM

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Everybody is making baseless claims about everything.

It's 2022. We saw raw video footage of every literal second during weeks worth of Freedom Convoy protests in Canada, yet all we can get is some Legacy Media high-production propaganda pieces and pictures funded by the billions we're giving the Ukraine along with Zoom calls from "President*" Zelensky in his track suits from home, with zero real-world footage taken from cell phone cameras about the fake war you're so invested in right now?

You people are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable that I share any of the same DNA as you do.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 6:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Everybody is making baseless claims about everything.

It's 2022. We saw raw video footage of every literal second during weeks worth of Freedom Convoy protests in Canada, yet all we can get is some Legacy Media high-production propaganda pieces and pictures funded by the billions we're giving the Ukraine along with Zoom calls from "President*" Zelensky in his track suits from home, with zero real-world footage taken from cell phone cameras about the fake war you're so invested in right now?

You people are so fucking stupid it's unbelievable that I share any of the same DNA as you do.

From 6ix I have heard his claim of superiority 1,000 time. From Trump voters I have heard the same claim 100,000 times. Trump voters don't believe themselves so they have to keep pouring the waters of self-praise on the same old claim or else the claim would shrivel up, dry out and blow away. Don't ever stop patting yourself on the back, 6ix. Trump does the same.

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Friday, March 18, 2022 7:34 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.



Quote:

SignyM:
According to the NYT (ahem!) 7000 Russian troops were killed, 25,000 injured, and the Russian army is 8 days (by now) away from collapsing.

If Kiev is THAT successful, why do they need a NATO no-fly zone? If the Russian army is in such dire straits, the only way they could reverse it is by striking NATO territory or going nuclear. In THAT case, what does a no-fly do?

Why doesn't the Kiev government just keep on keeping in for 8 more days?

One of your ignorant opinions contradicts the other ignorant opinion. But that's what happens to when you lap up swill uncritically?

SECOND: Ukraine wants a no-fly zone because Russian planes are bombing civilians.

As verified by the IRC? OSCE? Any credible third party?

Or is this just blown out of somebody's ass?

You want to see civilians bombed? Why don't you mention Fallujah and our infamous "shake 'n bake" ops?

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Friday, March 18, 2022 7:41 PM

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“The Daily Show” supercut lays it out, comparing footage from actual Russian propaganda alongside clips of Carlson, two Republican lawmakers, Newsmax and others:

Start at 5:00 to skip over the boring stuff.



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Friday, March 18, 2022 8:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

SECOND: Ukraine wants a no-fly zone because Russian planes are bombing civilians.

As verified by the IRC? OSCE? Any credible third party?

Or is this just blown out of somebody's ass?

There are no corrections from either IRC or OSCE explaining that the Western media got the story wrong about who is bombing who. Signym, are you seriously claiming Ukraine is bombing Ukrainian civilians? Everything from OSCE is about Russia bombing Ukrainian civilians. There is no anomaly where Ukraine bombs its Ukrainian citizens.

OSCE: https://www.oecd.org/economic-outlook/
"Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on 24 February has thrown the growth recovery from the COVID 19 pandemic into doubt and has sewn catastrophe across the region, destroying lives, homes and infrastructure. The ramifications are being felt worldwide."

IRC: https://www.rescue.org

IRC - International Rescue Committee @RESCUEorg
Children are not targets.
Hospitals are not targets.
Schools are not targets.
Homes are not targets.
Theaters are not targets.

Civilians are #NotATarget.
9:50 AM · Mar 17, 2022·Sprout Social
https://twitter.com/RESCUEorg/status/1504470122697670662

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 3:19 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


SECOND, I doubt that most of these events even occurred. There is no verification of who did what, or if anything even happened. KIEV reported it, but it's not like Kiev has never spun a tale or two!

According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?

I mean, you used to shoot people from a helicopter. You tell me... isn't it possible to kill civilians a lot more efficiently than the number that have been killed so far?

And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns. So why do you automatically blame Russia for things that may never have happened, or may be the fault of Ukie Nazis? And yes, there really are neo- Nazis in Ukraine. They can be identified by their tatoos, most often the wolfsangel. In act, if you look at Ukrainian history, a significant number of Ukies allied with the Nazis. It's not as if the Ukies have such a proud history of democracy! Many Ukies today still revere Bandera, an (in)famous Nazi collaborator.

Quote:

Later, the Wolfsangel was adopted by the Nazi Party, and the symbol was used by various German Wehrmacht and SS units such as the Waffen-SS Division Das Reich and the Waffen-SS Division Landstorm Nederland. The US-based Anti-Defamation League (ADL) database lists the symbol as a hate symbol and a neo-Nazi symbol....

Outside of Germany, the Wolfsangel symbol was used by some Neo-Nazi organizations, such as in the United States where the Aryan Nations organization uses a white Wolfsangel symbol with a sword replacing the cross-bar in its logo. The US-based Anti-Defamation League (ADL) database lists the symbol as a hate symbol and a neo-Nazi symbol.

The Wolfsangel symbol was used in the Ukraine by the Social-National Party of Ukraine, Social-National Assembly, and Azov Battalion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolfsangel

Ukrainian Nazis are being whitewashed from western media bc, yanno, it's not good for propaganda. But they're a real thing.

Quote:

Western Silence as 20,000 Neo-Nazis March in Ukraine


https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/258757/western-silence-as-20000-
neo-nazis-march-in-ukraine.html


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Saturday, March 19, 2022 7:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag events. So why do you automatically blame Russia for things that may never have happened, or may be the fault of Ukie Nazis? And yes, there really are neo- Nazis in Ukraine. They can be identified by their tattoos, most often the wolfsangel. In act, if you look at Ukrainian history, a significant number of Ukies allied with the Nazis. It's not as if the Ukies have such a proud history of democracy! Many Ukies today still revere Bandera, an (in)famous Nazi collaborator.

Did you miss this history lesson? How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine. Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

Stalin/Kulaks. Putin/Ukie-Nazis. It is all the same to Ukrainians but this time the Ukrainians intend to kill the Russians rather than let the Russians starve them to death.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:44 AM

CAPTAINCRUNCH

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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?



Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns.



Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Western Silence as 20,000 Neo-Nazis March in Ukraine

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/258757/western-silence-as-20000-
neo-nazis-march-in-ukraine.html




Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

Funny how looking at that web site the bulk of the "coverage" (most likely rss feeds on autopilot) is all about Nigeria. Go figure. And then, bam! Suddenly something about Nazis in Ukraine! What? Seems so out of place, right? Almost like someone (not you) bought space so they could have an "article" to link to, to try and verify a certain pov.

Wait, I did find one other article that also must be true since it's in the Nigerian Voice:

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/306550/captured-russian-pilot-ad
mits-to-bombing-civilians-urges-ru.html


"Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"

A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6 and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”

Opps!

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:

Opps!

Signym can use 4 likely tactics against your news story:
0) Ignore
1) Claim Fake News -- the "pilot" is a Ukrainian actor improvising a scene.
2) Claim even faker Fake News -- the story was concocted by the Western News Media without Ukrainian help.
3) Claim the pilot's confession was coerced.
I hope Signym can devise a 5th or 6th tactic, because these first 4 are over-used by Putin and his mouthpieces.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:44 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Quote:

SIGNYM:
According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?

CAPON: Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

We killed up to a million in Iraq, and tens of thousands in Afghanistan and Libya while claiming they were all "accidents". I didn't hear you objecting then.
WHY NOT?


Quote:

SIGNYM:
And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag events

CAPON: Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

No, it's been happening all along. It's just that it was never brought to your attention until now. And you only think what western media tells you to think.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Western Silence as 20,000 Neo-Nazis March in Ukraine

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/258757/western-silence-as-20000-
neo-nazis-march-in-ukraine.html



CAPON: Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

It's been in MANY sources over YEARS. Even in a video about Crimea recently posted by THUGR, which references (WITH VIDEO) the "far right" torchlight parades. Or have you forgotten the people burned to death in the Odessa Trade Union Building by neo-Nazis? Because, I guarantee you, Odessans have not forgotten.

It used to be you could find Ukie-Nazi pix EVERYWHERE on the inet, with their torchlight parades and wolfsangel tatoos and swastika banners and posters of their hero, Nazi collaborator Stephan Bandera.
Now?
Mostly scrubbed.
I chose that particular source because it had a good photo that was still available.

Quote:

CAPON: "Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"


A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6

which for some reason has only come to light now ...
Quote:

and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported. echoed without verification.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed

BY WHO? NOT the IRC or OSCE

Quote:

Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”



Has any western media or third party verified authenticity? Confirmed his ID? Interviewed him?

Opps! indeed!

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Quote:

Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
According to the IRC, 700 civilians have been killed in three weeks. Don't you think that if Russia was DELIBERATELY targting civilians that the count would be much, much higher?



Yeah, you're probably right. I mean only 700 civilian casualties can't be on purpose - gotta be an accident.

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
And then, there is the strong possibility that the Ukie Nazis are hiding behind human shields and/or killing civilian hostages in false flag evetns.



Whoa! That escalated quickly! Nazis hiding behind women and children!

Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Western Silence as 20,000 Neo-Nazis March in Ukraine

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/258757/western-silence-as-20000-
neo-nazis-march-in-ukraine.html




Great source. I mean, if it's in The Nigerian Voice... it must be true!

Funny how looking at that web site the bulk of the "coverage" (most likely rss feeds on autopilot) is all about Nigeria. Go figure. And then, bam! Suddenly something about Nazis in Ukraine! What? Seems so out of place, right? Almost like someone (not you) bought space so they could have an "article" to link to, to try and verify a certain pov.

Wait, I did find one other article that also must be true since it's in the Nigerian Voice:

https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/306550/captured-russian-pilot-ad
mits-to-bombing-civilians-urges-ru.html


"Captured Russian pilot admits to bombing civilians, urges Russia to stop assault: 'We have already lost this war'"

A captured Russian pilot admitted to targeting Ukrainian civilians and urged Russia to call off the assault on Ukraine.

Lieutenant Colonel Krishtop Maxim Sergeevich was shot down on March 6 and taken into custody by Ukrainian forces, Interfax Ukraine reported. At a press conference on Friday, Krishtop said he carried out three bombing missions, Newsweek reported.

“In the process of completing the task, I realized that the target was not enemy military facilities, but residential buildings, peaceful people,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “But I carried out the criminal order.”

Putin initially said that his invasion of Ukraine would not target any civilians , but the offensive has since bombed multiple towns and cities , resulting in a massive refugee crisis and over 1,546 confirmed Ukrainian casualties.

Krishtop, who served as Russia’s Deputy Commander of the 47th Aviation Regiment, said he deployed FAB-500 bombs, which are 500 kg — or 1,100 lb — explosives frequently used by the Russian military. A recent video shows two Ukrainians carefully defusing a similar bomb in Chernihiv, a city in northern Ukraine.

“I recognize the enormity of the crimes committed by me,” Krishtop said, per Newsweek. “I want to ask forgiveness from the entire Ukrainian people for the misfortune that we brought them. I will do everything in my power to end this war as quickly as possible, and bring those responsible for this genocide of Ukrainians to justice.”

Opps!





A dead giveaway with Sigmym’s links are they do not represent the same information the mainstream media is reporting. Her posts always directly challenge and act in defiance of what the mainstream media is reporting. Her posts represent the absurd.

I don’t challenge her here because I think I can score points or change her view of things through debate. That’s not possible. Instead, I challenge her posts to keep them as an archive I can access if firefly is rebooted. I want to expose her for what she is to the new arrivals. I will bring them up every time she offers an opinion. Especially when she pretends to feel moral outrage about anything, anything at all.


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Saturday, March 19, 2022 11:50 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


THUGR: You kust have the memory of a goldfish! (which BTW is six seconds long.)

Are you claiming that you no longer remember the pictures of Ukie neo-Nazis that were all over the inet just a few years ago?

The fact that I pointed out, in the video that YOU recently posted about Crimea, the reference to, and videos of, "far right" Ukie groups and their torchlight parades?
The pictures of John McCain posing with Ukie Nazi leaders?
The Nazi salutes?

What do you do? Allow your memory to be wiped and reprogramed every night?


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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:

THUGR: You kust have the memory of a goldfish! (which BTW is six seconds long.)

Are you claiming that you no longer remember the pictures of Ukie neo-Nazis that were all over the inet just a few years ago?

The fact that I pointed out, in the video that YOU recently posted about Crimea, the reference to, and videos of, "far right" Ukie groups and their torchlight parades?
The pictures of John McCain posing with Ukie Nazi leaders?
The Nazi salutes?

What do you do? Allow your memory to be wiped and reprogramed every night?






I’m so sorry you can’t see me laughing. What I remember is you are a Jew hatter. I bet if we scan the picture we could see you somewhere in the background wearing a hood. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!

Too funny comrade, thanks for the laugh.

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Saturday, March 19, 2022 12:05 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Just when I thought people couldn't possibly get any stupider, you come along and post!

Well, I have more important thing to do than try to teach a goldfish to think.

In the meantime, the pictures SHOULD remind actual thinking people that there are, indeed, Nazis in Ukraine. Nothing "neo" about them, either.



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Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Just when I thought people couldn't possibly get any stupider, you come along and post!

Well, I have more important thing to do than try to teach a goldfish to think.

In the meantime, the pictures SHOULD remind actual thinking people that there are, indeed, Nazis in Ukraine. Nothing "neo" about them, either.



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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
OTOH I'll stack my posts up against THUGR's or SHITHITTHEFAN's and GSTRING's any day. They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. When a forum gets to that point, it's dead already, and they killed it.



Wrong and a lie - your incessant lying is part of what kills it... for you. Ironic, no? We spend so much time calling out your Bullshit. I guess that's your MO - just make noise and controversy. I half think you may be an inmate somewhere desperate for conversation. ANY KIND, the more contentious the better because you learned it keeps people coming back to point out your sh*t.

Just above - a complete lie, "They've gotten to the point where they post NOTHING BUT personal attacks. " That's a lie, an obvious weak one.

How can you defend that? Please try. Let's have a discussion on why you feel the need to lie so much. I'm all ears, it could be good therapy for you. We don't know who you are in real life so it could be cleansing. You might grow to the point where you can try and win a discussion through... better logic, a better argument, even being on the Right side of an issue.

Here's an example of Truth: When a forum gets to the point where people threaten others with legal action instead of better ideas and arguments, then it's dead. At least RWED. See? I didn't have to lie or make anything up about you or Kiki - it's just fact.



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I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

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Italian Newspaper Denies "Disinformation" Despite Publishing Completely Misleading Front-Page Photo
Saturday, Mar 19, 2022 - 05:10 AM

Authored by Paul Joseph Watson

Italian newspaper La Stampa has denied accusations it engaged in disinformation [propaganda] by publishing a front page photo of a Ukrainian ballistic missile strike on Donetsk while suggesting it had been carried out by Russia.

The daily news outlet promised readers coverage of Russian attacks in Kiev and Lvov alongside a headline that read “The Carnage”.



The headline was illustrated with an image of a man covering his face in grief as dead bodies lie around him along with lines about “traumatized children in Lvov” and “Kiev preparing for the final assault” by Russian troops.

The photograph actually showed the aftermath of a ballistic missile strike on Donetsk, the capital of a pro-Russian breakaway republic in eastern Ukraine, after it was hit by a tactical Tochka-U ballistic missile that was almost certainly launched by Ukraine.

Whoops!

However, editor-in-chief Massimo Giannini vehemently denied in an interview that the publication had deliberately misled readers.

“The thing that bothers me most and pains me a lot is that there are also some people here in Italy, some disgraced people of the web, who amplify this and call it a case of disinformation,” said Giannini.

“Where is the disinformation?” he asked.

How about right there on your front page, Massimo?

Imagine if a Russian newspaper had published emotive front page coverage of alleged Ukrainian attacks on pro-Russian rebel areas of the country and then illustrated it with images that actually showed Russian attacks on Kiev.

Critics would immediately denounce the publication for engaging in egregious disinformation, and they’d be right.

Apparently though, amidst the ideological clamor to support the “current thing,” only Russia engages in propaganda and disinformation.

NATO powers and western media outlets are complete saints!



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The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two


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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!

Russia is to blame for Joseph Stalin Starving Millions in the Ukrainian Famine. Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.
https://www.history.com/news/ukrainian-famine-stalin

Stalin/Kulaks. Putin/Ukie-Nazis. It is all the same to Ukrainians but this time the Ukrainians intend to kill the Russians rather than let the Russians starve them to death.

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Of course: make shit up, publish misleading photos, blame Russia!






Poor Signym, poor Russia. The world is watching in horror as Russia slaughters the old, women and children, the innocent. And during this comrade Signym and Putin play the victims. Poor me poor me they say.

Signym, because of propagandists like you and unquestionably because of Putin, your beloved Russia is coming to an abysmal end. Yes, a terrible appalling end. It is certain, there is no stopping it now.

Posts in these threads or even the current propaganda spewed by Putin cannot change the facts. What do you think your lies will accomplish comrade? At best they sever as a temporary band aid to slow the bleeding. Still Signym, the truth about what’s going on is like a leaking dam. New leaks are emerging in Russia every second and they cannot be fixed. In the end the result is going to be the same. The death of Russia as it is for a very very long time. Your beloved Putin is now taking his place in China’s back pocket.

And comrade, I told you so.


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