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Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:31 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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KIKI: Any charges filed against Trump yet?
No?
Then what's the point of this entire thread?

SECONDRATE: I charge Trump with tax evasion. Plenty of evidence that he owes the IRS $billions in unpaid taxes.


Yep. Evidence that the IRS has been just been sitting on for how many years now?

Riiiight.

Signym, I expected you to show zero willingness to look at what cheating Trump did:
https://fortune.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-no-income-taxes/
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/10/02/us/politics/donald-trum
p-tax-schemes-fred-trump.html


How can Trump get away with cheating when there is an IRS?

Signym, paying taxes is voluntary. You report your income, and IRS will try to verify the correctness of your return by comparing what is on your Form 1040 with what your employer told the IRS. But what if you are self-employed, as is Trump? Then the system completely breaks down as it has in the case of Trump. He said he would voluntarily make his tax returns public information but he did not. Why not? Because he did not voluntarily pay his taxes:

The Treasury Department believes that there is a “tax gap,” taxes owed but not paid, of more than $500 billion every year; some estimates put the number much higher. And the Biden administration proposes giving the I.R.S. enough resources to reduce this gap as a way to help pay for investment in America’s future.

Republicans negotiating over a possible infrastructure bill ruled out paying for it in part by giving the Internal Revenue Service more resources to go after tax evasion. If the administration goes this route, it will apparently do so with little if any Republican support.

Just to be clear, I’m not surprised to learn that a significant number of senators are sympathetic to the interests of wealthy tax cheats, that they are objectively pro-tax evasion. I am, however, surprised that they are willing to be so open about their sympathies.

There is, after all, a big difference between arguing for low taxes on the rich and arguing, in effect, that rich people who don’t pay what they legally owe should be allowed to get away with it.

One recent estimate is that more than 20 percent of the income of the top 1 percent goes unreported. Republicans opposing stronger tax enforcement are barely even trying to justify themselves, except by bringing up old, long-debunked claims that the I.R.S. targeted conservative groups. Yet they seem determined to defend the privileges of wealthy tax cheats. Why?

Obviously some big tax cheats are also big political donors. What I’d suggest is that the cheats’ clout within the G.O.P. has actually increased as the party has gotten crazier.

There have always been wealthy Americans who dislike the right’s embrace of racial hostility and culture wars but have been willing to swallow their distaste as long as Republicans keep their taxes low. But as the G.O.P. has become more extreme — as it has become the party of election lies and violent insurrection — who among the wealthy is still willing to make that trade-off?

Some rich Americans have always been right-wing radicals. But as for the rest, the party’s base within the donor class presumably consists increasingly of those among the wealthy with the fewest scruples and the least concern for their reputations — who are precisely the kind of people most likely to engage in blatant tax evasion.

More at https://web.archive.org/web/20210722231206/https://www.nytimes.com/202
1/07/22/opinion/tax-evasion-irs.html


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Saturday, July 24, 2021 7:34 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Signym, paying taxes is voluntary.



Is that what you tell yourself when you cheat?

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 8:08 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Yanno SECONDRATE, my dad was a sales tax examiner for NYS, and there are all kinds of thngs they did BESIDES "look at the books" including just sitting and watching a business to see the flow of customers and estimate revenue.

Supposedly, the IRS is auditing Trump's tax record, and I assume that they are at least as diligent as lowly NYS employees.

MANY wealthy people pay no income tax.

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Richest Americans pay almost no income taxes, report finds
Billionaires like Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk paid little in taxes, report reveals
June 8, 2021, 4:32 PM PDT
By Cyrus Farivar

The 25 richest Americans paid little to no federal income taxes, according to a report released Tuesday by the nonprofit news organization ProPublica, a claim that has reignited debate about the tax code and sparked an investigation by the IRS into the leak of private tax documents.


https://www.nbcnews.com/business/taxes/richest-americans-pay-almost-no
-income-taxes-report-finds-n1270069


originally sourced from here
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In 2007, Jeff Bezos, then a multibillionaire and now the world’s richest man, did not pay a penny in federal income taxes. He achieved the feat again in 2011. In 2018, Tesla founder Elon Musk, the second-richest person in the world, also paid no federal income taxes.

Michael Bloomberg managed to do the same in recent years. Billionaire investor Carl Icahn did it twice. George Soros paid no federal income tax three years in a row.


https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never
-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax


Also, many wealthy BUSINESSES pay no BUSINESS tax.

And they manage that because Congress, the President, and the IRS itself have made it possible, by building in loopholes - depreciations, expenses, exemptions, etc.

If you want to indict Trump for "paying no income tax" (How WOULD you know that, BTW?) you may as well indict ALL of the elite.

Better yet, instead of whinging about Trump not paying his taxes, you should get yourself a better tax lawyer. I'm sure there are a few more loopholes and dodges that you haven't taken advantage of yet.


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Saturday, July 24, 2021 8:41 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Supposedly, the IRS is auditing Trump's tax record, and I assume that they are at least as diligent as lowly NYS employees.

There is only Trump's word that he is being audited. He never produced a letter from IRS showing an audit.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/27/michael-cohen-testimony
-trump-taxes-sot-vpx.cnn


All Presidents have made their tax returns available to the public after Nixon was caught cheating. Congress audited Nixon and he had the choice to either pay half his net worth or be impeached. He paid.
http://www.taxhistory.org/thp/readings.nsf/cf7c9c870b600b9585256df8007
5b9dd/f8723e3606cd79ec85256ff6006f82c3?OpenDocument


Unlike Trump, Nixon was wise to avoid an impeachment trial by Congress. Nixon probably would not have been convicted, since that would take 67 Senators and there were at least 34 solid Republicans who would never vote guilty. Unlike Nixon, Trump was very willing to test in two impeachments the loyalty of Republican Senators. Trump is among the wealthy with the fewest scruples and the least concern for their reputations — who are precisely the kind of people most likely to engage in blatant tax evasion.

It is thrilling to watch Trump lie about his taxes, year after year:



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Saturday, July 24, 2021 8:56 AM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


So, SECONDRATE, you baselessly accused - many times over- that Trump "paid no income taxes".

Aside from the fact that MANY wealthy people pay no income taxes, WHAT do you base this accusation on? That Trump didn't make his return public?

Big fucking deal.

And now you're whinging that he didn't produce the audit letter, so he must be lying about that too?

He doesn't have to prove his innocence to you, or to anybody. Meanwhile, you just keep throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

Stop making shit up, liar.

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:17 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, SECONDRATE, you baselessly accused - many times over- that Trump "paid no income taxes".

Aside from the fact that MANY wealthy people pay no income taxes, WHAT do you base this accusation on? That Trump didn't make his return public?

Big fucking deal.

And now you're whinging that he didn't produce the audit letter, so he must be lying about that too?

He doesn't have to prove his innocence to you, or to anybody. Meanwhile, you just keep throwing shit against the wall to see what sticks.

Stop making shit up, liar.

Signym, this is why the Presidency didn't function well under either Nixon or Trump. Both of them lied constantly. Nixon about Vietnam and his taxes. Trump about everything, including his taxes. Obviously you don't care. Aren't you a special kind of person!

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 12:43 PM

SIGNYM

I believe in solving problems, not sharing them.


Obama lies his ass off. So does Hillary. So does the M$M. Apparently you don't care about THOSE lies.
You lie, too,

Lies don't bother you, so stop lying that they do.
If you can manage to tell the truth, that is.


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Saturday, July 24, 2021 1:26 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Hey, Second.

I said it before, and I'll say it again just in case you forgot.

I don't give one single fuck if Trump didn't pay any taxes.

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Saturday, July 24, 2021 8:10 PM

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Evidence Points To AG Barr Abusing Law Enforcement Powers



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Saturday, July 24, 2021 9:44 PM

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Nah.

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Sunday, July 25, 2021 6:40 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey, Second.

I said it before, and I'll say it again just in case you forgot.

I don't give one single fuck if Trump didn't pay any taxes.

That is why you are a great man and a real asset for America, 6ix. What the country needs is more patriots like yourself, willing to retire young and stop paying taxes, too, as has Trump!

Trump clings to false election claims at Arizona rally
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/24/trump-election-claims-rally-5
00719

At one point Trump said he could return as president before the next presidential election. “Like it or not we are becoming a Communist country,” he said. Trump is crazy.

Is it not a great country when Robert E Lee or Jeff Davis (FYI for the Russian trolls: the Confederate President) are free of legal worries whenever they, or Trump, talk before audiences about overthrowing Lincoln or Biden? You know, I bet Robert E Lee, same as Trump, didn’t pay his taxes on his plantation. Lee’s house, which is situated along the prominent ridges overlooking Washington D.C., is operated by the National Park Service and serves as a memorial to Robert E. Lee, who slaughtered thousands of U.S. Army soldiers because he refused to live in a Communist country. “Like it or not we are becoming a Communist country,” Trump said. Trump is crazy.

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Monday, July 26, 2021 8:30 PM

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Trump Gleefully’ Watched Supporters Charge The Capitol


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Monday, July 26, 2021 9:01 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I keep waiting for someone to post real-world facts about Trump being charged or indicted, to start the whole process of maybe going to jail.

Instead, there's a never-ending series of fantasies and pointless mouth-breathing.


So, is my wait over? Not today, apparently.

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Monday, July 26, 2021 9:03 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Hey, Second.

I said it before, and I'll say it again just in case you forgot.

I don't give one single fuck if Trump didn't pay any taxes.

That is why you are a great man and a real asset for America, 6ix.



That's only one of a thousand different reasons. At least.

The rest of your post? TL;DR.


Trump will be fine.

He'll also be reelected your President again in 2024.



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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 9:10 AM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I keep waiting for someone to post real-world facts about Trump being charged or indicted, to start the whole process of maybe going to jail.

Instead, there's a never-ending series of fantasies and pointless mouth-breathing.


So, is my wait over? Not today, apparently.



Kiki Jack and signym have spent years visiting these threads complaining about the corrupt goings on of many politicians. Then came Trump. A gift to all those who actually deal in facts when confronting these three trolls. A gift because with their undying support of Trump they’ve verified themselves as being full of shit in their indignation towards others.

By supporting the Trumps and those they have surrounded themselves with. By ignoring all the criminal exploits perpetrated by them. By regarding any and all who’ve had their corrupt ways exposed as being irrelevant by ignoring them in their posts, they’ve proven the rule of law means nothing to them. Hence, their years of bitching here was due to nothing more than they like to bitch; to troll.

In this current thread we witness Kiki and Jacks one constant. They pretend it’s only about Trump being charged. They ignore all Trumps people being indicted and convicted, even as the indictments continue. With each one the investigations proceed. With each one the Trumps come closer to facing criminal charges themselves. And with each one adjoined with the silence of the three mentioned trolls, they continue to prove themselves trolls.

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Tuesday, July 27, 2021 11:29 AM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Any charges filed against Trump yet?

No?

AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnd ... the thread that should never have existed in REAL WORLD EVENTS gets extra zombie life from THUGGER.

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Friday, July 30, 2021 6:37 PM

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Trump Asked Top DOJ Officials To Declare 2020 Election 'Corrupt,' Notes Show


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Friday, July 30, 2021 10:31 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
In this current thread we witness Kiki and Jacks one constant. They pretend it’s only about Trump being charged.



YOU pretend it's only about Trump being charged. 6 months on, and your tiny brain still can't shake itself of Trump.

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They ignore all Trumps people being indicted and convicted, even as the indictments continue. With each one the investigations proceed. With each one the Trumps come closer to facing criminal charges themselves.


I celebrate the imprisonment and ruined reputations and careers of ALL criminals running our government in both official and unofficial capacity from both sides of the aisle. I ALWAYS have.

And so, so, so many of them have had that happen to them since Trump took office in 2016. And it's always a pleasure to see more nearly every day. People who should have been ruined years and even decades ago finally got the Karma they've deserved, and it would have never happened if Trump wasn't elected.

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And with each one adjoined with the silence of the three mentioned trolls, they continue to prove themselves trolls.


There's no silence here, Ted. Just ignoring you since you've been stuck on repeat for going on 5 years now. You never have anything new to say.

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Trump will be fine.

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Monday, August 2, 2021 12:40 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

Trump will be dead:

We’re going to see Donald Trump’s taxes following a Friday ruling by the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel’s office that said that the returns must be turned over to Congress.

“The Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has invoked sufficient reasons for requesting the former President’s tax information,” read the opinion, which is the latest development in a two-year fight between the Trump administration and House Ways and Means Committee Chairman Richard Neal over the billionaire businessman’s tax returns.

While Trump’s lawyers will no doubt fight the Justice Department ruling, the chances of Congress getting its hands on Trump’s returns went WAY up last Friday. And because Congress is Congress, if it gets the returns, you can be certain that some (or all) of the information in them will find its way into the public eye.

More at https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/02/politics/donald-trump-taxes-irs-congres
s/index.html


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Monday, August 2, 2021 1:50 PM

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Monday, August 2, 2021 2:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

Trump will be fine.

Trump will be dead:



Trump will be fine.



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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 12:57 PM

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Jury selection for the criminal trial of Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes is set for August 31.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/05/theranos-blood-test-accuracy-at-heart-
of-elizabeth-holmes-criminal-case.html


Theranos has been defunct since September 4, 2018, but they are just now getting around to a trial of its founder. Trump’s trial won’t be any quicker at starting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theranos

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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:07 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



I always wondered about Theranos.

I thought the FDA had jurisdiction over medical testing devices. And Theranos was claiming a new, revolutionary, testing technology. How was it able to set up and start testing without any FDA oversight?

Well anyway, that's certainly a LARGE sidestep away from "Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail".





Any charges or indictments filed against Trump in the Real World?

Not yet?

Sigh. So many, many pointless pages of posts.

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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by 1KIKI:

I always wondered about Theranos.

I thought the FDA had jurisdiction over medical testing devices. And Theranos was claiming a new, revolutionary, testing technology. How was it able to set up and start testing without any FDA oversight?

Well anyway, that's certainly a LARGE sidestep away from "Countdown Clock, Trump Going to Jail".





Any charges or indictments filed against Trump in the Real World?

Not yet?

Sigh. So many, many pointless pages of posts.

It is not really a side step. It shows that the American legal system is very slow and erratic.

Ian Gibbons, the chief scientist of Theranos, committed suicide the night before he was required to testify in a lawsuit about the company's technology - May 23, 2013. If Trump's accountant commits suicide, Trump will have many extra years of freedom before he goes to trial.

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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:13 PM

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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 1:53 PM

1KIKI

Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



Any charges or indictments filed against Trump in the Real World?

Not yet?

Sigh. 16 pointless pages of meaningless posts over 20 months.

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Tuesday, August 3, 2021 8:16 PM

6IXSTRINGJACK


Trump will be fine.





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"I'm more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail," Giuliani said in a Friday interview. "And if they do, they're going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I'm not. Because I didn't do anything wrong."

Trump's refusal to extend Giuliani aid appears to be part of a broader effort by the former president to distance himself from his ex-attorney.

Back in January, The Washington Post reported that Trump "instructed aides not to pay Giuliani's legal fees and "has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president's behalf to challenge election results in key states." Trump also privately "expressed concern" about some of Giuliani's moves in attempting to overturn the election and was put off by the ex-attorney's $20,000 daily fees.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/02/broke-and-abandoned-rudy-giuliani-is-
reportedly-now-getting-the-cold-shoulder-from-trump
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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 12:11 AM

6IXSTRINGJACK


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Originally posted by second:
"I'm more than willing to go to jail if they want to put me in jail," Giuliani said in a Friday interview. "And if they do, they're going to suffer the consequences in heaven, I'm not. Because I didn't do anything wrong."

Trump's refusal to extend Giuliani aid appears to be part of a broader effort by the former president to distance himself from his ex-attorney.

Back in January, The Washington Post reported that Trump "instructed aides not to pay Giuliani's legal fees and "has demanded that he personally approve any reimbursements for the expenses Giuliani incurred while traveling on the president's behalf to challenge election results in key states." Trump also privately "expressed concern" about some of Giuliani's moves in attempting to overturn the election and was put off by the ex-attorney's $20,000 daily fees.

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/02/broke-and-abandoned-rudy-giuliani-is-
reportedly-now-getting-the-cold-shoulder-from-trump
/

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I already covered that yesterday.

If you're going to pretend to know anything about law, Second, you should know that Trump can't pay Rudy's legal expenses.

But you don't know anything about law, so you didn't know that.



Trump will be fine.



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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

If you're going to pretend to know anything about law, Second, you should know that Trump can't pay Rudy's legal expenses.

But you don't know anything about law, so you didn't know that.

Trump can't legally pay??? Nothing is stopping Trump from paying. A gift from Trump to Giuliani is legal. A 0% loan from Trump to Rudy is legal. On the other hand, Trump not paying Giuliani for his legal service is "illegal" which means nothing to Trump since laws don't enforce themselves. If Trump refuses to pay, Giuliani can either sue and prevail in court after years of litigation or Giuliani sends his goons to beat up Trump and break his legs. I doubt Giuliani will do either.

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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 5:22 AM

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If Donald Trump runs for president again in 2024, the United States could find itself in a politically perilous situation by mid-November that year.

If Joe Biden (or, in the event that he doesn't run, Kamala Harris or another Democrat) wins decisively, by wide margins in multiple states, we will probably be fine. Meanwhile, if Trump prevails comfortably, American democracy will go on well enough, despite the turbulence of a second Trump administration.

But if the outcome of the vote in November 2024 is close enough that Trump can launch another "stop the steal" operation in numerous swing states, things are going to get ugly fast. In that case, American democracy itself could be facing its zero hour.

Let's begin at the beginning: Is Trump going to run again? No one can know for sure, but it's looking likely. For one thing, because he's nursing grudges and he wants revenge. For another, because he's under legal threat from various investigations, and if he were to win, he would likely be immunized from punishment until he left office.

https://theweek.com/donald-trump/1003257/trump-2024-stop-the-steal

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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 9:00 AM

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Trump will be fine.

We're making sure that Democrats can't cheat again.


You'd better hope that Harris isn't the one running in 2024. Half of Democrats can't stand her. She's useless. She wouldn't have even made the Olympic podium in the Democrat primary. She's only got the job because she's a woman and partially not-white.



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Quote:

Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump will be fine.

We're making sure that Democrats can't cheat again.

You'd better hope that Harris isn't the one running in 2024. Half of Democrats can't stand her. She's useless. She wouldn't have even made the Olympic podium in the Democrat primary. She's only got the job because she's a woman and partially not-white.

Mike Pence got the job of V.P. because he was Christian, balancing out Trump being a nonbeliever. Dick Cheney got the same job because he was smart, balancing out Bush being stupid. Gerald Ford got appointed to the V.P. job because Nixon's elected V.P., Spiro Agnew, was a tax cheating crook. FDR had 3 different V.P. because he didn't care who was V.P. It turns out that Truman, FDR's last V.P., was even less popular than Trump. See the bottom most chart for Truman on this page about Trump's popularity:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/voters/

Vice Presidents are usually weaklings that have only one vote getting characteristic when the Presidential candidate picks his own V.P. I think a President's ego strongly tends to make him pick a weakling who won't outshine the President, so complaining that V.P. Harris is weak ignores American history.

America is a long-long way from the original Constitutional design where strong individuals run for President and the two strongest could end up being President and Vice-President, rather than the present system which almost always picks a weakling for one of those positions. That would explain why Lincoln was followed by the worst President in history -- Andrew Johnson -- whose only qualification for the job of V.P. was that he owned slaves in Tennessee and Lincoln needed votes from Tennessee because it didn't join the Confederacy.

Lincoln really didn't think ahead about what political catastrophe would happen if he died and a guy became President who would pardon every slave-owner, instead of executing the worst traitors who would soon reanimate slavery, but in a more efficient form that is still in use today, with a minimum wage seldom being raised and never enough for a middle class life. Also the reason why privately employed workers have zero paid vacation by Federal law and zero job security and zero paid sick time by law and zero, well, you get the idea that there still is a slave class which holds about 40% of all workers. With Capitalism, the employer doesn't need worry about what happens to his slaves when he doesn't need them. In old fashion slavery, which was less profitable, the employer was required to keep feeding his slaves, even if they were too old or sick to work. With modern Capitalism, it is perfectly okay for employers to let their old slaves starve to death.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Johnson#Johnson's_slaves

12th Amendment: Election of President and Vice President
Passed by Congress December 9, 1803. Ratified June 15, 1804. The 12th Amendment changed a portion of Article II, Section 1. A portion of the 12th Amendment was changed by the 20th Amendment
https://constitutioncenter.org/interactive-constitution/amendment/amen
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Trump will be fine.

Real estate tycoon Robert Durst, who is not even a billionaire like Trump, accused of killing his close friend, expected to take the stand today.

Durst's lawyers have been protecting him from conviction for multiple-murders for multiple-years. Since that's the way the system works, it is a sure thing that Trump's lawyers will be able to protect Trump for many years to come. That assumes Trump doesn't try to cheat his lawyers out of their pay. In that case, Trump will be convicted faster than a black teenager who robs a convenience store.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/04/us/robert-durst-testimony/index.html

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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 5:39 PM

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Lawyers are trying to convince a judge to allow the Scottish government to investigate the Trump Organization under a 'McMafia' order, citing the New York criminal case

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/other/lawyers-are-trying-to-convince-a
-judge-to-allow-the-scottish-government-to-investigate-the-trump-organization-under-a-mcmafia-order-citing-the-new-york-criminal-case/ar-AAMWzLk?ocid=msedgntp




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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 8:19 PM

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Lawyers are trying to convince a judge to allow the Scottish government to investigate the Trump Organization under a 'McMafia' order, citing the New York criminal case

Attorney Kay Springham asked a judge to allow the government to issue an "unexplained wealth order" (UWO), also known as a "McMafia order". The order would force the Trump Organization to open up its books and explain how it financed the acquisition of its two Scottish resorts. I bet that fat bastard Trump will fight this to the death, even if he has to give away his Scottish resorts to avoid showing his books to the Scots.

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Wednesday, August 4, 2021 9:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally posted by second:
I bet that fat bastard Trump will fight this to the death...



Nah.

Trump will be fine and he won't even break a sweat.



I really can't wait until you have to call him your President again.

Tick Tock

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Thursday, August 5, 2021 11:29 AM

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A top official almost resigned because of Trump's 'direct instructions' to weaponize the DOJ for 'improper ends'

A top official at the Justice Department was prepared to resign in January because of then-President Donald Trump's "direct instructions" to use the department to push bogus claims of election fraud

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-top-official-almost-resigned
-because-of-trump-s-direct-instructions-to-weaponize-the-doj-for-improper-ends-report/ar-AAMYF6J?ocid=msedgntp




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Thursday, August 5, 2021 10:18 PM

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So?

Tons of idiots resigned, got fired or went to prison while Trump was President.

Best 4 years of draining the swamp in a lifetime. Looking forward to 4 more years soon.


Trump will be fine.



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Sunday, August 8, 2021 6:08 AM

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‘Like a Mob’: Prosecutors Look at Trump’s Ice Rink Man

Ever since New York prosecutors hit the Trump Organization and its top financial officer, Allen Weisselberg, with tax fraud charges in July, it’s been obvious they have more evidence of wrongdoing than they’ve laid out. But now, it’s certain: Prosecutors also have evidence that the executive’s son, Barry Weisselberg, received the very same kind of corporate perks that investigators allege should have been taxed as income.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/like-a-mob-prosecutors-look-at-tr
ump-s-ice-rink-man/ar-AAN4ekn?ocid=msedgntp




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If Attorney Gen. Garland doesn't prosecute Trump, the rule of law is "out the window"

Why is it taking so long? One possible answer is that it's not easy to get a conviction of a president. What appears compelling to a layperson is going to be difficult in practice. It will also be difficult to put down the riots that the very announcement of an indictment may bring. There may be a great deal of worry about fomenting civil war to no good end, because we will not succeed in holding the president accountable.

In the end, all I can do is make the counter-argument that if you're worried about the consequences of going ahead with this evidence against Trump and perhaps not convicting him, then you had better start worrying about the consequences of not going ahead with this evidence — and telling presidents in the future, including this president, who undoubtedly is going to try to seize power again one way or another, that they can get away with this. If that is the message, then the rule of law has basically been thrown out the window.

My other deep worry is that these so-called institutionalists are so afraid of how the American people and world would respond to the full truth about the Trump regime's crimes that they have decided the only way to protect the institution of the presidency is not to prosecute Trump and his confederates.

That is certainly not what the framers had in mind with the presidency. Their great fear was that the president would have more power even than a monarch, to use his command of the military, his role as commander-in-chief and his power as chief executive to end the process of peaceful transition to the next election. In the United States we established a tradition with Washington passing the baton to Adams and Adams to his great enemy Jefferson.

It was an unbroken tradition, but it was one that I think people who have been serious about preserving the country and the Constitution have realized was quite fragile and could be destroyed at any time.

With Donald Trump we have now seen someone who tried his damnedest to destroy that tradition. It almost succeeded.

More at https://www.salon.com/2021/08/30/laurence-tribe-if-garland-doesnt-pros
ecute-trump-the-rule-of-law-is-out-the-window
/

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Monday, August 30, 2021 9:39 AM

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Trump's not getting convicted of anything, salon.com.

He will be your President again in 2025.



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Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:42 AM

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Trump Org probe heats up as more staffers testify

As Manhattan DA Cy Vance prepares for his retirement this December, The New York Times reports that prosecutors are weighing tax-related crime charges against Trump Organization COO Matthew Calamari Sr. His son and fellow Trump Organization executive Matthew Calamari Jr. recently testified under oath before a grand jury, possibly helping prosecutors get a little closer to the evidence they need.

Video;
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/trump-org-probe-heats-up-as-more-
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Tuesday, September 7, 2021 3:17 PM

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possibly...



I really hope you've been doing something these last 8 months other than this and not wasting yet another year of your life.

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Tuesday, September 7, 2021 10:53 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.



In about 6 weeks Trump will have been going to jail for 2 years - according to THUGGER. And Trump hasn't even been charged yet.

What a crap ton of useless posts over all this time, eh THUGGER?



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Quote:

Originally posted by THG:
Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
"He was it came"?

I noticed THUGR that somebody lets you out of your cell about once a week and gives you internet access, and you use those hours of freedom to spam the board with pointless irrelevancy.

Instead of spreading ignorance like a disease, why don't you learn something instead?

THUGR posts about Putin so much, he must be in love.



tick tock polish Russian collaborator signym. It starts next week with Trump Org. Tell polish Russian calibrator kiki. Watch what happens with Trump and the banks when the charges are filed.

Thinking about it brings joy to my heart.

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 12:41 PM

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Goodbye, kind world (George Monbiot) - In common with all those generations which have contemplated catastrophe, we appear to be incapable of understanding what confronts us.




Trump has been going to jail for 2 years - according to THUGGER. Yet to date, Trump hasn't even been charged with anything at all.



What a crap ton of irrelevant posts over all this time, eh THUGGER?

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Tuesday, September 14, 2021 1:01 PM

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Ted's so full of shit it's coming out of his ears.

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Trump has been going to jail for 2 years - according to THUGGER. Yet to date, Trump hasn't even been charged with anything at all.



What a crap ton of irrelevant posts over all this time, eh THUGGER?

Unless he lives another 20 years, Trump has little to fear because the legal system works very slowly. For an example from just yesterday: A Los Angeles jury convicted Robert Durst on Friday of murdering his best friend 20 years ago, a case that took on new life after the New York real estate heir participated in a documentary that connected him to the slaying that was linked to his wife’s 1982 disappearance.
https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/los-angeles-jury-reaches-verdict-in-
robert-durst-murder-trial
/

How close did Trump come to being convicted during his second impeachment trial? Very close, but some on the jury knew that convicting Trump would be the end of the juror's career, so they didn't convict. When the defendant, Trump in this case, could murder a juror, GOP Senators in this case, it is a travesty of justice. Despite being able to avenge his conviction, Trump still came very close to being convicted.
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+close+did+trump+come+to+being+conv
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